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9:00 AM
can you reword the 3rd sentence?
 
any class can implement an interface. In the Logger example above, the contract only mandates putting a log method on the class implementing the contract. Whether this class is a dedicated Logger or some other class is not specified in the contract. You could add it to your Controller if that's what you wanted.
 
Anonymous
@samayo You trying to get me banned :P ?
 
@Gordon I don't see how that's related to the current discussion
 
@FlorianMargaine OVH seems nice and cheap, I can get a dedicated for 41 euro which isn't that bad.
 
@FlorianMargaine take subject/observer as a better example. you just need to implement notify and observe. there is no rule that says classes that want to be a subject or observer need this or that constructor. its only when you want to say I want all my classes to require this concrete dependency that you need a ctor, but then you are already implementing a type, hence if you want ctors in interfaces, use an abstract class instead.
 
Anonymous
9:05 AM
@JayIsTooCommon Nah, I'm just curious. I never expected him (I still don't) to say something racist.
 
@FlorianMargaine you could also think of it as protocol versus implementation if that makes it any clearer.
 
@Gordon ah, so you're saying that an interface can't require a constructor because that's the way for classes to ask for their dependencies
 
Anonymous
@samayo In context, it wasn't racist. But he posted the context afterwards to troll
 
Reminds me of that meme.
 
@Gordon host europe seems to be in Deutsch only?
 
Anonymous
9:09 AM
Eh, anything anyone can say or think isn't racist. This is just limp-[..] SO mods trying to rub their tiny [..] again.
 
@FlorianMargaine no, that would ignore the contract/protocol parts I mentioned. It's really about that.
 
Anonymous
--
 
@samayo I am tempted to flag this as inappropriate
 
Why is @tereško banned for a whole week?
 
Anonymous
9:10 AM
@Gordon Then don't! :p
 
@bwoebi because he brainfarted
 
@Gordon I am tempted to flag that for inviting to start flag wars
@Gordon more specific please?
 
@bwoebi good we can resist temptation, huh?
 
@Gordon :-)
 
Anonymous
@Gordon Honestly though, do you believe anything racial I can say to you, or vise-versa has any effect on either of us? Racism is prejudice + power. Opinions are just random words
 
Anonymous
9:12 AM
anyway, that's only my point of view
 
@bwoebi scroll up. he wanted to do an "experiment", went into the docs room, made a racist comment, then immediately made it relative by adding context. which obviously did not prove anything, but got him banned, because flags. basically: "I've come to a conclusion. racists slur. and so is everyone else because evolution.". it was very stupid to do.
 
Anonymous
> "You guys are a bunch of apes" .. [10 seconds later] .. "so am I because of evolution"
 
Anonymous
@Gordon like that? :)
 
@Epodax might be. not sure.
@samayo yes, like that
 
9:16 AM
@hakre visit here:

Documentation Review

Seeing as there's no review queue yet, post links to your draf...
 
Anonymous
@SagarNaliyapara Posting it here is fine. It's PHP docs.
 
@samayo yes, I do. It might upset or insult me.
 
cheers @JayIsTooCommon
 
@SagarNaliyapara Thanks for the hint, newsflash: no news to me.
 
@bwoebi I agree though that a full week is a bit excessive… unless he brainfarted elsewhere, too. we cannot know.
 
9:21 AM
@hakre too slow.
@Gordon but why do flags ban him for 7 days??
 
Gon
Morgen
 
@bwoebi they dont. a mod did it.
 
@Gordon well, was it a system-generated ban or a mod-ban?
ah
 
I assume @MadaraUchiha since he was the first to respond to the slur, but I cannot know anymore.
 
Anonymous
@Gordon To each his own, but not me.
 
Anonymous
9:23 AM
@bwoebi I agree 7 days is harsh
 
(my reason: not helpful. All the information already exists somewhere else and the comment about case-sensitivity is at the wrong place.) stackoverflow.com/documentation/proposed/changes/…
 
Anonymous
That commonsense guy got 1 year, but he deserved it
 
@samayo I refrain from using "to each his own"
 
Anonymous
@samayo Just for the edit war??
 
@bwoebi mod ban
 
9:24 AM
hey guys
how to activate bootstrap in jsfiddle.com?
 
Gon
why was tereško banned tho?
 
@JayIsTooCommon suspensions are incremental. first is 7 days, then 30, then 365. mods can adjust this, though. YCS is a repeated offender though.
@Gon scroll up. not gonna repeat it again.
 
Anonymous
@Gordon ah
 
Gon
'kay :P
 
@Gordon So, we just need to ping @MadaraUchiha and ask him to reduce the ban to a few hours until @tereško isn't drunk anymore?
 
9:27 AM
@bwoebi theoretically yes, but you know how these anime superheroes are… and again: we dont know if it was only for that slur
 
Anonymous
@Gon next time, don't wander. it's either racism or sexism.
 
Gon
heh
 
@Gordon well… he's able to tell ;o)
 
Anonymous
on the good side, I have more reps than @tereško. \0/
 
@bwoebi we might be able to convince @JonClements for a bunch of cabbages… though he ignored my first ping already
 
Anonymous
9:29 AM
@JonClements #FREEtereško
 
#tereškogate
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I remember when you kept asking for bans @samayo
 
Morning/Monday
 
Anonymous
I'm always asking for bans
 
@Gordon sorry... fairly busy with the whole real life work thing... I didn't get involved (except clearing up the Docs transcript) - let's just say I think the mod who issued the suspension was justified in doing so (and you know I can't provide details...)
 
I know. thanks for responding though
 
Gon
9:31 AM
@samayo me as well \o/ :P
 
Anonymous
This reminds of whole milo-twitter incident.
 
Anonymous
but i'm glad he wasn't suspended for much longer, like a year
 
@Gordon I think you can make a sentence out of "camel", "straw" and "back"? :p
 
@JonClements what's a backstrawcamel? o_O
yeah okay makes sense… never heard of that idiom … TIL …
 
Anonymous
@bwoebi "nail in the coffin" is much more popular
 
9:36 AM
@samayo this means something slightly different though
 
@JonClements nope, but bwoebi can, so TIL ;)
 
@Gordon (I couldn't either, but google could)
 
Who? What? Where?
 
@bwoebi Pick up a book why don't ya :p
 
@JonClements we dont have that idiom in german. we'd use the "the last drop makes the cup run over" here
 
Gon
9:38 AM
1 hour ago, by Fabor
Quick @tereško is banned. Post invalid MVC examples!
 
@Sherif I've only ever read one single evening lecture book in English (well, apart from school).
@Gordon cup ≠ Fass
 
@bwoebi Interesting. I seem to recall you being British for some reason.
 
true, but something spilled over
 
@Sherif I've always been from Luxembourg…
 
me throws all geodata previously assocatiated with @bwoebi out the window
 
9:40 AM
@JonClements "You cheeky camel, that's my straw! Give it back!" ?
 
TIL, Luxembourgish is actually a language.
 
@Sherif Planning to sometime read another book in English though…
@Sherif Sure. Why shouldn't we have our language?
 
Not every country has their own language, you know.
 
@bwoebi Except for that week you were from Mars, and at weekends when you dress like you're a member of a very specific subset of people from Thailand.
 
@Sherif We're not filthy Americans just having a dialect…
 
9:42 AM
It's not like there is an American
 
@Sherif "Simplified English"
 
@Sherif The US people are Americans and basta.
@DaveRandom not sure what you want to tell me? ;o
 
@bwoebi Well, there are like what 27 Spanish speaking countries in the world?
 
@Sherif sssshh, Trump will hear you...
 
We're not alone in this particular taxonomy.
 
9:43 AM
ugh this laptop keyboard has no "end" key, v annoying
 
@DaveRandom spanish aint mexican
 
@Sherif Sure I do know that, just messing with you.
 
Spexican (those are the short sighted ones)
 
@DaveRandom Yes, and his wife will recite another plagiarized speech to me.
 
So I'm implementing an SSO system that keeps user data in one database only accessible to the "main" site... What's the best way to implement an API so that any extensions of that site (with different domains) can access user information securely?
 
9:45 AM
I'm assuming that next time it will be the full-on Dr King.
 
Is it ironic that someone so opposed to immigration in this country is married to, perhaps, the least iconic immigrant in the nation?
</politics>
 
she didnt plagiarize. obama send michelle from the past to the future and she plagiarized from trumps wife
 
Anonymous
^ that
 
@Sherif US?
 
that makes sense
@MadaraUchiha trump
 
9:46 AM
@Sherif No, but only because Trump can't actually spell "ironic", and even if it could he would assume that it meant "sort of like iron".
 
!!wotd
 
chiasmus: a reversal in the order of words in two otherwise parallel phrases, as in “He went to the country, to the town went she.”
 
Save for native Americans, you're all immigrants. Stop being lame to each other.
 
@DaveRandom Sounds about right.
 
@DaveRandom thus, crucial for life.
 
9:47 AM
@MadaraUchiha I am proud Pangaean!!
 
@DaveRandom We have words. We have the best words.
 
Like "arsehole". And "facist".
 
Anonymous
@MadaraUchiha It's like this. "I know words, I have words, I have the best words"
 
Anonymous
probably the greatest line ever said.
 
@Gordon #AllSpeciesMatter
 
9:49 AM
Not the one I was going for
But meh
 
@Gordon … clever… except that the continent doesn't exist anymore. I'm fairly certain 99.9% of all matter which ever was at the top at that time has vanished from the surface.
 
:31901270 DUDE!!!! PG13!!!!
 
@DaveRandom #AllLifeformsMatter ? #EverythingWithDNAMatters ?
 
@bwoebi I made the word up, but it apparently exists already
!!urban Pangaean
 
[ pangaean ] A person who believes they are of no, religion, creed, race, or colour. They are just human. Connotates to the Super Continent 'Pangaea', greek for 'One World'.
 
9:51 AM
Screw you! Make Gondwanaland Great Again!
 
Anonymous
@bwoebi nope, only BLM.
 
In retrospect I'm actually not really on board with satirising anything to do with BLM from either side at the moment, it's far too muddy and certain factions on both sides are behaving badly.
 
@DaveRandom I demand a referendum!!
 
I will never demand a referendum on anything ever again, it's quite obvious that the general population cannot be trusted to take them seriously. A woman actually said to me the other day (no shit) that "I voted for Farage for a laugh, to annoy my daughter".
 
 
Anonymous
9:56 AM
@DaveRandom BLM needs a sequel for me to be on-board with it.
 
Dear sir, I have recently learned how voting works and I am APPALLED. https://t.co/diazwZeZgE
Also this
 
The problem with BLM is the arguing about the B part…
 
@bwoebi good job on the ?? section :)
 
Anonymous
@bwoebi There is kind of truth in that, saying all live matter would trivialize the movement, as other lives are allegedly not impacted as much. But I hate making the "too" implicit. It should be BLM2.
 
10:00 AM
Hi all,
How to export CSV file for custom post types in WordPress without using plug-in ?
 
@bwoebi I have all kind of opinions and I am now keeping them to myself because a substantial portion of them of them are related to the way in which people focus on the wording of things instead of the underlying concepts and principles.
 
@salathe Well, someone pointed me to it in SO docs … and I felt it needed improvement…
@DaveRandom that's what I'm pointing out...
 
Indeed :-)
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom heh
 
@BalasureshAsaithambi We don't have many people who familiar with the inner workings of WP in here, you'd probably get a better result from asking a WP-specific community :-)
 
10:03 AM
@DaveRandom thanks :)
 
@DaveRandom [Theory: there won't be another referendum on whether to remain in EU, but whether to trigger article 50…]
 
Hello guys, I'm trying to merge divs on bootstrape but this doesn't work 100% because of the alignement, my result should be like this: imgur.com/a/EeCBX but unfortunately it finished like this: imgur.com/a/KE2p5
everything looks fine but the alignment
 

HTML / CSS / WebDesign

This room is now defunct. RIP.
^ These kind folks might be better suited to help you out Johny :)
 
it's not active, every one day to see one member
 
from your screenshot, your missing cols
 
@JohnyNassar watch a youtube video for bootstrap grid logic.. altho its not that hard
 
this is my code
but I don't know how to activate bootstrap on fiddle
 
form-groups are rows
they have the same - margin as rows
 
@bwoebi that would be incredibly wasteful, wouldnt it?
 
therefore you need cols inside your form-groups
 
10:08 AM
cols?
why
i have 1 row then 3 cols and in each cols there's 2 rows
 
@Gordon yeah … all that paper wasted to first vote in favor and then against
 
except the "information" textarea
 
@bwoebi Which is actually the same thing, but sounds more technical so people will either not bother to vote or actually make the effort to understand what they are voting for.
 
@DaveRandom [I didn't mean that seriously]
 
@JohnyNassar read the docs about forms..
cant help with that simple stuff
 
10:10 AM
which docs?
getbootstrap?
 
I do, I'd be surprised if we don't get an "are you sure you want to exit?" dialogue box referendum in the end
 
@bwoebi I would certainly appreciate it though, given all the FUD during the first referendum. Use the time now to figure out what the anticipated cost or benefit will be, then ask again based on the findings.
 
On a lighter note, does anyone have any opinions on SSHDs?
 
i'm using a windows machine , (NOT out of choice) and trying to do composer self-update which is resulting in the openssl extension is required for SSL/TLS protection but is not available
 
@DaveRandom They are great and do all the things
 
10:15 AM
Anyone got any valid opinions? :-P
 
the PC is using Mamp , and i have changed the php ini files to enable it. But still not working
 
@PeeHaa or are you actually being serious?
 
Am I ever?
 
@virepo Wait, mamp and windows?
 
@DaveRandom buy a SSD. They're cheap, for some definitions of cheap.
 
10:16 AM
E_DOES_NOT_COMPUTE
 
i know i know
 
@bwoebi SSHD seems like it would have a better lifespan
But yeh I'm leaning towards the SSD route
 
@DaveRandom it depends on how much you write on the SSDs… but SSDs have a far better lifespan than they had even 5 years ago…
 
It's for OS disk in a tower machine, if that makes any difference
 
@DaveRandom @tereško probably has, but he won't be here until next week
 
Anonymous
10:18 AM
@tereško Unbanned?
 
@DaveRandom well… today more and more servers even use SSDs…
 
@JayIsTooCommon hmm, profile doesnt have the notice anymore
 
Anonymous
Welcome back @tereško
 
His main was never suspended.
His chat still is though
 
why did he get banned?
 
Anonymous
10:21 AM
@MadaraUchiha He had a suspended notice on there for a while
 
Anonymous
> This user is suspended on the parent site and cannot chat for 6 days.
 
Anonymous
@MadaraUchiha yeah, just saw it
 
Anonymous
still makes no sense, but meh
 
@samayo @MadaraUchiha why does it then say on the parent site?
 
@MadaraUchiha it was
 
10:22 AM
@bwoebi Weird, it seemed to persist even after a forced refresh
I've manually unsuspended.
@Gordon Yeah, I saw, my bad.
 
@MadaraUchiha I don't see it anymore
 
Anonymous
@MadaraUchiha good job
 
36 secs ago, by Madara Uchiha
I've manually unsuspended.
 
@MadaraUchiha Any reason why or is that corporate secret?
 
@bwoebi yeh but in RAID, which invalidates a lot of the lifespan issues immediately. Most people (read: I) don't mind replacing the thing when it wears out, but I do mind data loss/needing to reinstall OS. I don't have a RAID ctlr in the machine but I could get one I suppose...
 
Anonymous
10:24 AM
Though suspensions and bans are always a blessing in disguise. @tereško would've been better off with it and might have done a shitload of stuff imo
 
@DaveRandom no, outside of RAID [with backups though]
 
@bwoebi why is easy: because for being a brainfarting ape Hominidae
 
@Gordon That's the reason of the ban…
not of the unban
 
Anonymous
@Gordon Bad time to use the term ape ... :D
 
@bwoebi doesn't matter, I think I'm going to go for the SSD/RAID route
 
10:25 AM
@bwoebi ah. misunderstood you
 
@Gordon but… maybe being an ape accounts for diminished culpability… :-D
 
@bwoebi that would be weird given that all modrators are just monkey with guns
 
@bwoebi Why what?
 
@MadaraUchiha why he was unbanned?
 
@bwoebi He was unsuspended on main, and the change didn't propagate to chat.
 
10:28 AM
@MadaraUchiha … why he was unbanned on main I mean …
 
As for the reason he was unsuspended on main, you'd have to ask him, I'm not in liberty of disclosing that information.
 
He paid it off didn't he?
 
Totes.
 
@MadaraUchiha That was my question … or is that corporate secret
 
I knew it
 
10:29 AM
(He promised to betray @Naruto at the end so that Madara could win)
 
Anonymous
@bwoebi I think the mod who banned him made some considerations.
 
Gon
Steins; Gate was really amazing af
 
@bwoebi It's not a corporate secret as much as it's a policy to protect the privacy of the user.
 
@samayo Don't speculate, @tereško will tell ^^
 
@Epodax I already won.
Anything else is merely a dream.
 
10:30 AM
@MadaraUchiha Well, it depends, either it was conversation with the user [In which case I fully agree], or it could have been "moderating error" or similar.
 
@bwoebi unless the mod doing so told @tereško he cannot know. you dont get a mod message for that.
 
@MadaraUchiha Touché
 
@bwoebi In both cases, the user is always allowed to expose the details from his side.
 
@Gordon Well, Madara said "you'd have to ask him" … so I assume he does?
 
We won't initiate information disclosure, but should the user, we have no problems discussing it in full detail.
 
10:32 AM
@MadaraUchiha Yeh, I know that… Same at other places [where I'm not even directly a moderator, but have access to mod information]...
documentation is btw. a nice rep generator… at 43 doc rep for only a 10.5 hours now…
 
@bwoebi It's a bit broken atm
Just put a successful edit on the popular topics in each language
 
Need a clue here,

My laravel /storage/framework/sessions directory are creating many "session" files. about 2 per refresh

is it about the configuration of the nginx? Thanks
 
And you'll be raking in the rep
There also used to be a bug where doc rep ignored the rep cap
 
@MadaraUchiha needs to be a bit substantial though, but yep.
 
@MadaraUchiha What's like really annoying is that is spills over to SO rep
Such a terribad decision
 
10:35 AM
I've made an edit to the "Promise - Introduction" example, and I've gotten at least 100 rep since yesterday
 
@PeeHaa Why is that annoying?
 
@bwoebi Because SO rep takes effort
docs very much not soi
 
docs need to be burninated
 
I feel like docs were released prematurely
 
Anonymous
I'm done with docs. Every topic I create gets deleted by someone else with no remarks.
 
10:36 AM
@MadaraUchiha not released, just beta :-D
@samayo really? Perhaps your doing something wrong?
 
@bwoebi ssdd
@samayo Links?
 
@MadaraUchiha Are you mods able to see deleted topics?
 
@bwoebi Maybe?
 
@MadaraUchiha Because for us it's just a 404
 
@bwoebi Link?
 
Anonymous
10:38 AM
I can't find them, they are deleted. But I had a PDO, Installing on Linux, PHP CLI topics
 
@MadaraUchiha that is not secret information, is it?
 
@Gordon No, moderator tools were never secret.
Only specific information about users
 
It's 404 for me as well
 
so, you cannot see deleted topics… mhmh
 
10:41 AM
Well... I think the tooling is planned after they work out what docs is actually for and how it's used :p
 
Anonymous
7 mins ago, by Gordon
docs need to be burninated
 
@JonClements As I see it docs actually has to problem of too many tools (using it)
:P
 
a clue please,

php "session" files are piling up. around 1 per second. could it be the nginx?
 
@PeeHaa I see what you did there… and it's funny because it's true
 
Anonymous
The examples in this one are slightly odd stackoverflow.com/documentation/php/504/classes-and-objects/…
 
Anonymous
10:46 AM
> Daddy wants to know grandpas name
 
Anonymous
@mCorr piling up?
 
Why are people upvoting this stackoverflow.com/questions/38564204/… ?
 
@samayo taking spaces on my disk
 
Anonymous
@mCorr how are you creating them? inside a loop or something?
 
1 file per secon of 4kb each
the php app is on laravel framework
@samayo I really do not know yet
 
Anonymous
10:49 AM
@mCorr can you see the contents inside the files? are they similar?
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa What are the chances Jay Tower is still standing?
 
Anonymous
maybe you can check when/where the sessions are being initialized
 
@samayo ok, ill check. thanks
 
!!docs session.gc_maxlifetime
 
[ session_name() ] Get and/or set the current session name
 
10:50 AM
ugh
 
@JayIsTooCommon Decent I think :P
 
moin
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom yeah, that's good. But do you have any insight on why every second a new session is made?
 
moin Joe :-)
 
10:51 AM
hey @JoeWatkins
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa I dunno.. I pissed a lot of people off :P
 
How are you doing? :)
@JayIsTooCommon Yes. Yes you did :P
@JayIsTooCommon What about planting a sign with your name on it at the base of somebody else? :D
 
@samayo because someone is loading a page without sending a session ID. This is either because there is a lot of traffic or because he's failing to set session IDs correctly and/or destroying the sessions with the IDs he's setting.
 
I'm ok, thanks for asking
 
hmm ... so this was not a good experiment to do
3
 
10:54 AM
lol
 
@DaveRandom its more of not correctly setting and destroying
@DaveRandom I've recently switch from apache to nginx
 
it was slightly entertaining, but not as rewarding as one would expect
 
Sorry, this content isn't available at the moment
The link you followed may have expired, or the Page may only be visible to an audience that you aren't in.
 
@JoeWatkins You been oh hols/sanity break? Was starting to get a little worried. You're obviously allowed to go away if you want but radio silence is kind of disconcerting in these days of constant communication :-)
 
Anonymous
@tereško did you have to sort it out with the mods? how did you get your suspension lifted from the main site?
 
10:56 AM
@Gordon well, at least it's safer subject to write news about than the DNC leaks
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa Good plan. In the meantime, i'll work on my PR skills.
 
@samayo there were some self-deprecating humor and promises involved
 
Radio silence is a Daniel move. Usually after some sort of dangerous activity like sky-diving or bungee jumping though.
 
@tereško you brainfarting monkey :D
 
Anonymous
10:58 AM
@tereško Why even experiment with stuff like that? and with this strong PC crowd?
 
@DaveRandom sorry, I have popped in ... I struggle to keep up with conversation, which is frustrating
 
@tereško How about his
Next time, ask me if it's OK first? :P
 
@JayIsTooCommon :)
 
@MadaraUchiha now, that's an option
 

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