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1:03 PM
@sweg_yolo_69 Archlinux will be the first distro to supply PHP 7.1
also; Archlinux > ubuntu
 
Don't know why but digital ocean charged me twice this month for vps ..
 
@Linus contact them
 
Yeah I contacted them but no reply in 5 hrs..
 
they overcharged me when I was spending my voucher. or rather, it was unclear that their alerting would only work for negative balances and not total money spent. They refunded me immediately.
on a side note: I have no clue what that is even after reading the article
but it's astrophysics so it must be awesome
I love astrophysics. I never understand a word but it always impresses me.
 
1:12 PM
This happened to me second time don't kniw the reasons but I have no negative balance remaining.
 
it's kinda like listening to @PeeHaa with the addition of being impressive
 
@sweg_yolo_69 you should, IMHO, but then again, what the hell I know about any of this shit
 
@tereško why I never get the point of such images :-(
 
And since it's Friday, have some procrastination and guess the puns. Number 3 was really hard.
 
lol
 
1:19 PM
@Gordon which element of #7's image refers to "spring"?
 
no idea
I hate puns
 
oh .. wrong ping, sorry
 
Anonymous
@DaveRandom hah! boom
 
@kelunik The various BC breaks, like invalid strings in arithmetics warnings, too few args now being an error etc. are more important
 
Anonymous
 
1:25 PM
@tereško as a committed Humour Justice Warrior I demand an apology.
 
How to know what row is currently processing when i join 2 big tables?
 
Crazy thought: select the key of both tables and use that?
 
@Machavity that would be way too easy.. right? ;)
 
@Naruto Like I said, it's crazy ;)
 
1:29 PM
more like on the edge of insanity... ^^
 
@Gordon #3 was easy, #6 is difficult because it's crap
 
no no this is not about id its about how main records are processed to match and how many remaining
 
I guess #3 could be difficult if you don't get what the face paint is about though
 
yeah #3 took me a few seconds
#6 even longer
 
@DaveRandom yeah , well ... I prefer George Carling instead of Dane Cook
 
1:31 PM
I think #9 was crap :P
 
@DaveRandom that was 2, wasnt it?
 
Oh there is no haskell room here on SO?
 
Anonymous
@Gordon I got #1 if that helps
 
ah no. I confused 2 and 3. 3 was easy. 2 was hard.
 
!!haskell let 2 + 2 = 5 in 2 + 2
 
1:33 PM
Return value: 5 — Output: none
 
that's the only haskell I've seen around here
 
I dunno how frequent Andrea is in the room anymore, but she was pretty pro-Haskell for a while
 
morning all
 
yeah, and Bob I think, but they're not here atm
Will try #haskell on freenode
 
@nikita2206 I am.
@JayIsTooCommon you wish. Not we.
 
Anonymous
1:38 PM
:P <3
 
@bwoebi oh hey, could you help out with this problem? I have a record of type data Args = Args { optional :: Maybe String } and I need to parse program arguments/options into this record, let's say I chose to use CmdArgs library ( hackage.haskell.org/package/cmdargs-0.10.14/docs/… ). It would be pretty easy to parse with it a record with String field, but I have no idea how to do it for Maybe String...
If you've worked with some cmd args parsers maybe you have something to suggest
I need it to be set to Nothing if there were no argument/option provided, and to Just String with the value of argument if it was
 
@tereško touché
 
@tereško I'm pissed, the monitor I got has 2 inputs: 1 x DisplayPort and 1 x HDMI. The DisplayPort is the only port that can do 4k @ 60hz. HDMI isn't 2.0
2 freaking inputs on an almost 1k euro monitor! what are acer playing at
 
@nikita2206 As far as I see, there's no way for a Maybe with that library… it only supports defaults
 
1:54 PM
w00t. i totally missed wiki.php.net/rfc/class_const_visibility. that is awesome news. finally I can hide all them constants.
 
@bwoebi it just seemed natural to fmap over a value, if there was one at least, or otherwise use a default value (which would be Nothing)
I guess I need to look into other parsers
 
@nikita2206 A quick google search finds stackoverflow.com/questions/32422339/…
 
@bwoebi actually it turns out this library magically works with Maybe... Thanks though, I will try to use optparse too, just going over possible alternatives now
 
@nikita2206 hah, okay
 
Anonymous
@Gordon nice
 
2:00 PM
@NikiC Uh, well… it isn't that obvious, but my patch ended up overwriting CVs with IS_UNDEF upon exception in the *_function functions in zend_operator.c (if result != op1) … Hard to find though. If you have a better idea than hacking in IS_VAR|IS_TMP_VAR checks into zend_operators.c, you're warmly welcome too…
 
@bwoebi sure, but I think that's okay?
I mean apart from the case where the value leaks via debug_backtrace
which we're just gonna ignore...
 
@NikiC $a = 1; try { $a = 1 + []; } catch (Error $e) {} var_dump($a); // IS_UNDEF
is that okay?!
 
@bwoebi ah, sorry
no, of course not
I was thinking about the opcache case
 
@Jimbo the 4k@144 screens are only now coming out.
I told you to get a 3440x1440 :P
 
@tereško Are they over 1k euros?
 
2:04 PM
@NikiC It is the opcache case, when we optimize it to have an IS_CV retval instead of ZEND_ASSIGN
 
@DaveRandom :O I feel honored.
 
@Jimbo with "only now coming out" I meant "were showcased in tech expos 6 months ago"
 
@tereško dem lyrics
started planetary confinement
 
@bwoebi ?
Your previous example made more sense
 
@NikiC I mistook something. The previous example was fine.
 
2:07 PM
So which example is not fine?
Because the one you have now is not affected by opcache
 
@NikiC now I'm confused … asking dmitry again
 
Anonymous
@Tiffany Don't, @Jeeves is a slut
 
dmitry1
Optimizer may convert $a = $b % 0 into CV = MOD ...
dmitry1
but I wasn't able to craft the case yet
 
like @PeeHaa?
 
@NikiC ^ well… let him explain, not me :-D
 
Anonymous
2:10 PM
@Tiffany yes, exactly
 
or wait, that's @PeeHaa's mom...
 
Anonymous
@Tiffany No, she only likes me
 
@bwoebi that part is correct
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I'll take it as you approve then
 
indubitably
 
2:12 PM
@JayIsTooCommon I see.
 
morning @tiff @ter @felix @bwo @jay
 
o/
 
morning
 
2:14 PM
\o
 
welcome to your Friday :)
 
\o/
 
or I hope it is, bcz otherwise I just rubbed your noses in the fact that today is mine :/
it's gonna be a great weekend I think
 
my friend works at a data center. his "Friday" is always different
 
I used to work in a call center... back in college
ugh... ppl can be total assholes
 
2:16 PM
I think he has day hours always now. But, it used to be, work four days at shift 1, four days off, work four days at shift 2, four days off, work four days at shift 3, four days off, and start all over again
 
mine wasn't ever that bad... worst would be 10p
 
he was like a basic help desk tech. he works for a different company now, I think has been promoted or something
 
@MadaraUchiha TCP joke timed out. Still haven't gotten it.
 
A UDP into bar walks packet a
 
Anonymous
2:22 PM
@MadaraUchiha haha
 
I was going to copy some folders over to a server, then run and get some coffee and donuts, but I know I would get a prompt about replacing files and folders. I got the prompt for folders, but it's been ten minutes, still no prompt for files. I could have gotten my coffee and donuts by now, dammit!
 
where are the donuts from?
 
vending machine
 
bleh
 
just mini chocolate frosted
 
2:25 PM
Krispy Kreme ftw!
 
we just got a dunkin donuts
finally got the prompt.
 
ewww... even dunkin coffee sucks
 
user image
5
 
nope... thankfully no
 
Anonymous
man I wanna post that in 17
 
2:28 PM
It's very direct ey
 
@JayIsTooCommon Already did :D
 
Anonymous
@MadaraUchiha you rebel you
 
I dunno what the fuss about, working with JS is a lot of fun
You write stuff, you've got an awesome debugger, you have strong tooling, good IDEs
 
@NikiC I want to pin something. Again.
 
The QoL of JS devs isn't that bad, really
 
2:30 PM
npm install npm
 
That sounds like something a JS dev would say
 
@MadaraUchiha You have way too much tooling.
 
"Everything is fine"
 
@kelunik vOv, no you don't.
You have a lot of choice, and it's part of your job to know what to pick
 
@DaveRandom Currently using nvm install 6.9.1 and guess what. That only works in the current terminal tab you're working in. Open another tab and you're in a different version of node.
 
2:31 PM
There's a learning curve involved, but I much rather this situation over Java's "Just use Spring"
or PHP's "Just use Laravel"
 
@Jimbo nvm?
 
@Jimbo There isn't an npm 6.9.1
 
Node Version Manager.
 
Someone wrote here the other day about 0-day front-end frameworks. That seems to be an issue on FE world indeed.
 
Did you mean nvm install 6.9.1?
 
2:32 PM
;)
 
Oh, I see what you mean
 
the day there's a zero-day exploit with a CSS preprocessor...
 
You need to use nvm use to set the version
 
@MadaraUchiha I didn't say too much choice, I just said too much. But compiling JSX to ES7 then to ES5 hand then having sourcemaps that hopefully work. I left out a couple of usual steps.
 
nvm use 6.9.1 after installation
@kelunik You aren't obligated to do any of those things.
I skip transpilation in almost all of my projects
 
2:33 PM
@MadaraUchiha Without it it's not that much fun. :P
 
@kelunik That's your problem
And even when I do transpile, I don't use sourcemaps, because sourcemaps are admittedly broken
 
The command nvm seems appropriate for people who continually assert that things are fine when there is clear evidence to the contrary.
 
But knowing not to use sourcemaps is something that comes with experience, like everything else.
 
Sourcemaps work surprisingly well.
 
/hides
 
2:34 PM
@kelunik well*
Also, breakpoints are hopelessly broken
 
I know how to English good
 
@DaveRandom ya, ya.
And even if you do transpile from JSX to ES7 and then to ES5
 
@Jimbo hat are you trying to fix?
 
That's, what, 10 lines of WebPack configuration?
 
relax, don't do it, when you wanna go to it
 
2:35 PM
People are blowing the problem out of proportion too often
 
last time I tried to fuck around with nvm, it was a pointless waste of time
 
like with everything javascript
 
@Jimbo Use nvm alias default 6.9.1
Then it would become the system-wide default.
 
@MadaraUchiha Aliasing would work, perfect
 
@tereško nvm is generally good for development environments, when you need to test if a module would work across different node versions
It's rather pointless in production/staging servers where you generally have exactly one version of node you need.
Although I've seen people use it there too.
 
2:38 PM
> Hi, my computer is not working.
4
^ genuine thing submitted to internal bug tracker
 
@NikiC Have you had a chance to look at my static props patch?
 
Did you try turning it off and back on again?
;)
I have a tshirt somewhere that says just that
 
> Tell it to find a job or get out of the house.
 
Awwww missed opportunity :-(
 
@rabbitguy I heard it helped a lot of Telekom customers. :P
 
2:40 PM
@DaveRandom we have the proof now. Deepak Chopra was right all along and you can use you mind to affect electrons
 
or my fav when I used to work tech support over the phone:

"my phone isn't working."
"okay. Do you have your phone next to you?"
"I'm talking to you on it..."
 
@Jimbo , btw, why are you surprised about the number of ports and available framerates? Din't you read the specs before buying?
 
@DaveRandom why do you want to have sex w/my family?
aren't they a lil young for you?
 
Anonymous
@rabbitguy stahp
 
? but he said that! it's in the starred thingies
 
2:46 PM
@rabbitguy The question you need to be asking yourself is why wouldn't I want to do that.
 
Anonymous
@rabbitguy Yeah, move on before you make it unfunny :)
 
lol
 
The pros are too numerous to mention.
 
^ this is getting interesting. kinda.
 
@DaveRandom AIDS?
okay okay... I'll stop
 
Anonymous
fuck sake
 
Anonymous
every god damn time
 
I think for the first time, I actually read the url before
 
so that's the rickroll of SO chat?
 
Anonymous
2:50 PM
aye
 
@pmmaga only on Fridays though.
 
:D
 
yeah you will get seriously concerned looks if you post that on any other day. maybe even bans
 
I'm glad there's detecca
 
shit. I had my first therapy appointment yesterday. I thought it was today. fuck fuck fuck.
 
2:51 PM
@littlepootis they suck at rebecca rolling. it was so obvious.
 
Anonymous
@Gordon shut up :(
 
@Tiffany what's the therapy for? being punctual?
 
Anonymous
:D
 
@Gordon among other things
 
@Tiffany well, at least it will be useful should you ever show up in time ;)
 
2:53 PM
I shouldn't have worn my skinnier jeans today
 
@Gordon yeah, I'll have to call and reschedule. I feel pretty bad. I'm terrible at remembering appointments.
I usually have them in my phone, but didn't think this one would be necessary. Turns out it's always necessary.
 
Oh, it's magic casting time again.
 
btw, @Jimbo, there is no way to put GTX 1080 Hybrid in the NCase
 
@bwoebi Should be no problem for a wizard of your stature
 
@rabbitguy I hate skinny jeans
 
2:55 PM
@Leigh I want to magically cast certain topics away from internals, yes…
 
A spell of banishment
 
I do too, but I lost about 40 lbs this year and all my normal jeans are huge on me, so I got "skinnier" jeans...
 
But I'm only a code wizard, not an internals wizard
 
@tereško ooh, you have one? Friend of mine bought it off indiegogo when the m1 first went up on there
 
What's the thing that internals had to say NO to the most times?
 
2:58 PM
@tereško been a few years, but he still has it I think
 
@Tiffany no, Jimbo is attempting to build a computer,
 
ahhh
I need to put the new case fans in my computer this weekend. I made a mistake and bought case fans that uses screws instead of nubbies.
 
3:12 PM
no screw slots?
 
oh well. screw them deliverables for today. Ima read "beautiful javascript"
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier a book about oxymorons?
 
@tereško Yep, but not ports. I didn't think ports would be an issue on something like that
 
@Gordon heh. actually took me a moment.
 
Anonymous
@Gordon you're on fire
 
3:17 PM
> This is JavaScript, arguably the most polarizing
and misunderstood programming language in the world.
 
@tereško Oh fuck, that's a 980 hybrid
 
... funny that
 
Balls
 
... it also looks like a very old piece of metal
 
:'(
Shit my actual life
 
3:19 PM
you can always cancel the order
 
Wes
@bwoebi yes :B news? thanks :B
 
@tereško Was a lovely case too, but yeah. So requirements go back a step, something that can just about fit a 1080 hybrid in
 
and next time DONT BUY PARTS BEFORE YOU HAVE FINISHED THE RESEARCH
 
Anonymous
@Wes mornin, see the news?
 
:D
I got very excite
 
Anonymous
3:20 PM
@tereško He works for Trivago, he's got pure dolla and can spend it
 
Wes
@JayIsTooCommon what happened this time?
rosberg?
 
Anonymous
aye
 
@Wes no reply yet
 
Wes
@JayIsTooCommon saw that earlier :B yeah, crazy
 
@Jimbo there other good looking PC cases, especially if you are willing to pay more than $150 (which I wasn't)
 
3:25 PM
I am, but I still want it to be a compact as possible
 
Wes
@bwoebi could you reproduce it somewhere else? or is it just a windows thing
 
@Wes well, it's Windows specific code… so the issue also only should happen on Windows…
 
Wes
i don't get why it happens. taken alone are both int, if you multiply them you get a float :B
 
Anonymous
@Wes Oh an also, ep 3 is supposed to be back on track and v good
 
@Wes because the result is checked against a 53 bit mantissa (I mean including sign) double…
 
3:33 PM
evening room
 
@Linus morning!
 
O/
 
@Jimbo I have some options bookmarked at home ... will check in few hours
 
cheers
 
Wes
3:45 PM
@bwoebi sorry i don't get it :B not even why floats are involved
 
@Wes to check against overflow
 
Wes
and checking converts the int to float?
 
no, the check fails (that's the bug), and thus it returns a multiplication of two floats
 
return type variance
 
@Leigh patch allowing return type covariance in general
 
3:51 PM
Not sure about arbitrary
But I at least want an interface fn requiring a base type to allow an implementor to return a more specific type
 
@Leigh okay, fixed
@NikiC If we would want to take care of the IS_CV case, it'd require basically passing execute_data or opline to the binary_op()s in general … EG(current_execute_data) is not a good idea as binary_op()s may be called form many places…
It's quite awkward what we'd have to do for that…
I do not have a good idea for how to fix it
I'd really prefer not fixing this at all…
 
Looking good
 
Windows and a few others seem to have qsort_s and Linux has qsort_r.
What a pain.
 

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