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3:00 PM
Bet they will love it
 
No
 
NT4 in cloud? wow lol
Oh god, Windows 95 is older than me.
 
distract your audience with obsolete operating systems
 
I believe that was the first OS I used back in 2003, when I was just 3.
 
3:02 PM
@HassanAlthaf I'm 19, born early 1996. NT 4 came out later the same year
95 is older than me as well
 
And then moved on to Win2000 in a year or 2, and then moved on to XP when it came, and then was stuck with it till in 2011, I got a new computer with win7.
 
@Andrea I was born before Windows 1.0
3
 
Win7 was officially the last winOS I used as a primary OS.
I use Win8.1 as a secondary OS now just for VS to do C#
@ircmaxell Damn mate, how old are you?
 
Younger than the commodore 64
 
1982 to 1985.
Early 30s, I see.
 
3:09 PM
3 more followers to go
 
moin
 
Sup?
 
@ircmaxell On what?
I guessed it is Twitter. There you go.
 
yo @ircmaxell, not much going on ....
 
This is how I learned how to program en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEEK_and_POKE
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@HassanAlthaf thanks :-)
 
3:13 PM
@ircmaxell No prob. Btw, since you are a security champ, you should make some github repo or author a book on how to create secure sites. :P
 
.........
 
@Ghedipunk whats up with those dots?
"Use the room as a replacement for the main site. We are not the question banned users refugee camp."
This rule
Is my favourite.
refugee camp lol
 
@Andrea That random_bytes example is wrong :P
 
3:31 PM
@ircmaxell How old are they? Would they appreciate 70s/80s love songs or..?
 
@LeviMorrison married for 50 years
And yes. But I am trying to find songs that lend well to videos. So beats, arcs to the tempo, etc...
 
@ircmaxell For a few seconds there I thought @LeviMorrison was married for 50 years
Sat there confused for more than I'd like to admit.
 
@MadaraUchiha @Levi is definitely younger than 50 :-D
 
@MadaraUchiha lol
 
3:40 PM
@HassanAlthaf That would have been a small child at my keyboard.
 
That's not bad...
Adding to my list
Thanks!
 
How to stop on non A-z in regex? regex101.com/r/gH0zF9/1
 
I am doing a 7th RFC for 7.1... Adding PEEK and POKE support.
 
@NikiC I said as much when I presented it
 
3:47 PM
There's also "My Girl" by the Temptations.
 
@ircmaxell very funny :-P
 
Holy crap 9999 followers!!!
 
@ircmaxell LET A = 12
 
@LeviMorrison a bit cheesy for what I am looking for, but yeah...
 
posted on October 04, 2015 by ralt

ralt/hermes 1.5

 
3:59 PM
bob/niki got a minute to look at something ?
 
Support Open Source in October and earn a limited-edition T-Shirt from @digitalocean and @github http://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com/ #Hacktoberfest
 
@JoeWatkins yup?
 
there must be something wrong with the offset calculation stuff, but I've read opcache over and over and I see no difference, plus more or less the same kind of code works in two other places ...
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1".
int(1)
int(2)
int(3)
array(0) {
}
php: /usr/src/php-src/Zend/zend_gc.c:226: gc_possible_root: Assertion `(ref)->gc.u.v.type == 7 || (ref)->gc.u.v.type == 8' failed.

Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
0x00007ffff5440cc9 in __GI_raise (sig=sig@entry=6) at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:56
56      ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c: No such file or directory.
sorry for wall-o-text everyone
 
I'll look later at it… busy now…
 
@Danack can you explain what you mean:
> IMO, default constructors are bad and I encourage people to stop using
them.
 
4:09 PM
@bwoebi cool thnx
 
4:23 PM
@ircmaxell if you make a class like:
class Foo {
    public function __construct(string $foo) {
    }
}
And then realise 3 months later you want for be able to use a different constructor:
class Foo {
    public function __construct(string $foo) {
    }

    static public function fromBar(Bar $bar) {
        // We need to call new here to create an object.
        // Unless we are going to go through ReflectionClass::newInstanceWithoutConstructor
        // we have to take bar and convert it into a string to be able to call
        // the default constructor.
    }
}
Of course you could refactor the class to be:
class Foo {
    static public function fromString(string $foo) {
    }

    static public function fromBar(Bar $bar) {
    }
}
 
so you're saying __construct() is an antipattern?
 
But that depends on the ability to refactor code at your choice. For php internals the ability to refactor is limited to either major or minor version releases.
 
eih
not sure I agree with you there, especially given this case
 
I'm not sure I'd use the phrase anti-pattern, but it's something that isn't needed in the language, makes refactoring code later be more difficult than it would be if it wasn't used. Actually, I would say that it is a an anti-pattern due to the fact that it can't be passed as a callable.
 
what can't be passed as a callable?
 
4:27 PM
new ?
 
@ircmaxell I was just thinking of songs from about ~50 years ago that are still popular today :D
 
@Danack new what?
@LeviMorrison yeah, I'm going through Grey's Anatomy songs now...
 
@ircmaxell He means literally new $thing().
You can't use constructors in callbacks (properly, anyway).
Because it requires new.
 
@ircmaxell like this:
class foo {
    public function __construct($bar) { }
    static public function create($bar) {}
}

function createFoo($fooFactory, $bar) {
    return $fooFactory($bar);
}

$fooFactory = ['foo', 'create'];
createFoo($fooFactory, 5);
 
/me sighs
whatever
 
4:31 PM
For what it is worth Rust doesn't have constructors at all.
 
because it doesn't have objects
 
/me sighs right back. If the choice is between using something code that can be composited together in any way you like, or something that has restricted usage, and there's no other noticeable difference, then use the one that is more usable.
 
@ircmaxell Sure, they are just structs.
 
there's some sort of irony in calling static methods composable
 
Yeah.....well default constructors are just static methods with a less useful calling convention.
 
4:34 PM
Suggestion: don't change paradigm and convention mid-point release in one tiny corner
where else in PHP do we use static factory functions for any objects instead of normal constructors?
 
DateTime. (Well, I guess it has both, so not "instead of")
 
@ircmaxell the intl library.
 
both examples provide __construct for the exact same functionality
thought datetime does provide additional factory functionality with createFromFormat
but that's not creation, it's actually just doing some parsing prior to calling the normal constructor
 
@bwoebi This in general is caused by linking the wrong version of a library.
 
so that's not really what we are talking about here
 
4:39 PM
ok, well the fact that the default constructor isn't passable as a callback seems a big enough reason to not use it for me. And as named constructors are used elsewhere, I don't see what the problem is.
 
normal constructors are used all over the language
 
I agree on with Danack on this one. Avoid the constructor. This is probably because I want more than one static method.
 
"named constructors" are used in one core extension.
the other (DateTime) doesn't use a "named constructor", but a factory method
@LeviMorrison such as?
 
huh?
Why do you need to do something like ::fromFunction?
especially when callbacks allow you to do just that
 
4:45 PM
fromInstanceMethod, fromStaticMethod and fromFunction all have different signatures.
 
eih, I think that's an un-necessary complication, since all of them are directly expressable in callbacks today, and terefore would be directly expressable by this new thing
 
@LeviMorrison eek
 
you want to use named constructors for Closure so that it's easier to pass them as callables to be used to create closures out of callables? does that sum it up or have I lost the plot
(a simple "you've lost the plot" will do fine, further explanation might break me today)
 
5:04 PM
I need to get another beer
they begun selling this micro-brew in my local shop:
 
@LeviMorrison it is… but how do I solve that (other than manually specifying LDFLAGS)?
 
Usually you specify configure flags for this stuff.
I don't know about this specific situation
 
Anonymous
@tereško buy a shisha instead. Much more fun :)
 
@LeviMorrison configure flags is for location of headers…
 
LDFLAGS at configure time often works too.
 
5:09 PM
@LeviMorrison yeah, it does… but :-s
 
@bwoebi Usually it's headers and libs.
 
@samayo meh. That shit never leaves the lungs
it's nice to smoke it on special occasions, but having it at home is a bad idea
 
Anonymous
Yeah, but the same can be said about the bear, as it never leaves the belly :)
 
Anonymous
Also, yeah shisha at home is bad.
 
Anonymous
Good thing I am not addicted to it that much.
 
5:12 PM
actually, beer does leave your organism
since living thing in general are just donut-shaped sacks
 
Anonymous
I mean beer gut
 
@LeviMorrison nope. It's just the libs being usually in same prefix as headers.
 
@samayo that's actually caused by hormone imbalance, because beer contains estrogen
 
my intention is switch to wine before I hit 35
@AnmolRaghuvanshi so, did you try any of those games?
 
Anonymous
5:16 PM
+1 for wine
 
@ircmaxell nice… you've actually hit the 10k followers ;-D
 
not now @tereško will goto somwhere to download xcom
 
@AnmolRaghuvanshi the full name is: "XCom: Enemy Within"
 
Anonymous
@bwoebi damnit. I had his twitter page open to be exactly the 10Kth person to follow him
 
lol
 
Anonymous
5:20 PM
 
yeah but google also shows enemy unknown :) which one is good
 
Enemy within is the expansion
 
ok will start with enemy known
 
which is "basically a 20-hour tutorial for The Long War[mod]"
 
and tried serious sam it's good to kill the time :P
 
5:23 PM
It's a mechanical expansion, not a story expansion
 
what you prefer to start with
 
It adds more enemy and unit types
 
gaming is addiction :D
 
@AnmolRaghuvanshi you start with "enemy within", because it is just a better version of the same game
 
kk :)
i used to play play Cod for continous 18 hrs in college with some break
 
5:33 PM
I have never had the attention span to do that
only games that I played for that long was Heroes of Might & Magic 3
 
Anonymous
Played devil may cry back in 2007 for a week. But not straight
 
DMC has mostly been a console game and last console I owned was SEGA
 
well i came across pc games in college found interesting so just used to play day night
DMC is ;p story line is very weak
 
and the new DMC is recommended to have a gamepad for playing on PC ,, and I still ahven't bought a gamepad
 
i am not hardcore gamer but i have seen people playing CS it's just awsme
 
5:38 PM
< never been in competitive shooters
 
Anonymous
How many consoles have you guys tried in your gaming lifetime?
 
Anonymous
Mine: Famicom > Nintendo > GB color > PS 1 > PS 2
 
Anonymous
And then I grew up started to cook, work and got busy .. meh growing up sucks
 
me initially only plays mario and pac-man and bad gammer ;p
then in college came across pc games
 
@samayo I still play games somewhere around 10-20 hours per week
depending on how actually busy I am
 
Anonymous
5:49 PM
@tereško I thought it would by way more than that. But, if you are busy it's understandable.
 
6:03 PM
my friend told me a thing, I am agree with him, should I tell him "agreed" or "agree" ?
 
Anonymous
agreed
 
tnx
and now I am disagree with him, should I tell him "disagreed" ?
 
Anonymous
let's agree to disagree
 
your mean is when I'm agree, tell him "agree" and when I'm disagree, tell him "disagree" ?
 
Anonymous
Agreed -- when you agree
 
Anonymous
6:09 PM
I disagree -- when you disagree
 
Anonymous
.
 
ok tnx
@samayo just one thing. I disagree or I'm disagree ?
 
it would be less confusing yo say "you are correct" and "you are wrong"
 
Anonymous
@Sajad You never say I'm disagree!!
 
.. unless you are a baboon
 
6:18 PM
@samayo ah ok
 
Anonymous
@tereško or George W bush
 
Anonymous
Check out bushisms
 
@samayo what's the difference?
 
Anonymous
lol
 
Anonymous
@tereško Also, this one: thechive.com/2012/11/04/…
 
6:22 PM
@samayo the 4th one actually have me a pause
 
Anonymous
#10 is my personal fav.
 
:D
and the #18 is actually somewhat interesting
bottom line is this: JCVD is not an educated guy .. but he probably could have been
 
 
Anonymous
He was on drugs heavily, so that may be it.
 
what the hell are you talking about?
 
6:26 PM
@Sajad it's not all that important
just a bunch of dumb-ish quotes from Jean Claude van Damme
.. you probably don't even know who that guy is, because he was a big action-movie star in 80s/90s
 
yes I don't know him
 
Anonymous
@Sajad You don't know how "Jean claude van damme" is ?
 
should I know him? I searched and saw his photo ... honestly I'm not interested in that kind of movies
 
@samayo he's from Iran and born after 1990
also, it's not like he have a good access to the internet
if things go well there, the latter problem will be fixed in next 5 years
 
Anonymous
I find this hard to believe. He is like a superstar. Everyone knows JCV in East Africa.
 
Anonymous
6:31 PM
Anyway, That article actually missed a great chance to make the title "Jean clawn van damme"
 
@samayo AFAIK, he doesn't take himself all too seriously
 
Anonymous
yeah, maybe.
 
@samayo this should be fun for you: youtube.com/watch?v=_T_Whr4tQOs
 
Anonymous
Thanks. I forgot that I had wanted to see that movie.
 
Anonymous
@tereško southpaw is up on yiffy btw
 
6:42 PM
hmm ..
they have been experiencing some server-related issus
 
Anonymous
Yeah, good thing yify-movie.com works fine
 
I win 2GB extra traffic. there is any suggestion for using that?! (music, movie, software)
 
Anonymous
Sorry to bust your balls but 2GB is nothing.
 
Anonymous
Certainly not worth the word wining
 
@samayo what? 2GB is nothing?! I disagree. A full movie (with acceptable quality) is less than 2GB
 
6:53 PM
@samayo damn dude, let him be happy about his 2gb - there's no reason to shit on it
 
@PaulCrovella tnx :-)
 
Anonymous
@PaulCrovella saying it like it is
 
diminishing something that someone is happy about just for the sake of diminishing it or making them less happy about it isn't "saying it like it is", it's just being a douche
 
Anonymous
white knights smh
 
okay, a smug douche
 
7:03 PM
@PaulCrovella tnx again :-)
@PaulCrovella however he has some right for telling that. because his internet traffic in unlimited and 2GB is not really a good thing for him
 
Anonymous
I actually have no internet question. I use 1GB/month for $7 plan via phone tethering for internet most of the time. I know how good/bad 2GB is.
 
@bwoebi too conservative?
It's not conservative enough ^^
 
7:38 PM
@Jimbo pizza hangover incoming... 50% off pizza hut when you spend £40 :x
 
@Sajad you can probably get two 720p movies for that
but I don't know if you are able to use torrents
1080p movie is about 1.8GB
a season of TV series (approximately 20 episodes at 720p) is something like 8GB
 
@NikiC I mean too conservative relative to the old beahvior / reluctant to restrict too much
 
Anonymous
7:59 PM
@tereško I think the connection might be in GPRS. Which would make it difficult to download a full movie
 
8:34 PM
@Leigh You know what, me too man :X I got 4 personal pizzas...
 
8:58 PM
@tereško I downloaded this: The Shawshank Redemption.1994.[1080p]
and I'm watching it ...
 
it's highly rated
but looks really serous
 
Anonymous
yeah, highly rated.
 
@tereško in where? there is any website (like stackoverflow) for movies ?
 
Anonymous
yes
 
Anonymous
9:01 PM
Highly rated does not mean Highly rated btw
 
Anonymous
It's most like the opposite.
 
@tereško ah
@samayo I see
 
@samayo I don't see
what the fuck did you mean by that ?!
 
Anonymous
@tereško about what?
 
1 min ago, by samayo
Highly rated does not mean Highly rated btw
what were you trying to say?
 
9:03 PM
his mean is, "highly rated" has not its own literal mean
however I think.
 
and now I am really confused
there is some other meaning for that phrase ?
 
@tereško and that movie is not exist in the IMDB
 
Anonymous
Now, I am confused.
 
ah yes! sorry
 
Anonymous
9:05 PM
@tereško You really think that movie deserves the credit it gets?
 
no idea, I have not seen it
 
9.3 is a hight rate ?
 
Anonymous
Then stop going with the flow
 
Anonymous
@Sajad yes. very!
 
the max of it is what number?!
 
9:07 PM
10
 
ah !! so it is really high
I'm glad to seeing it
 
Anonymous
it's overrated.
 
it's probably still really good
 
Anonymous
I would rate it on par with Green Mile.
 
have you seen it?
 
Anonymous
9:08 PM
Yeah.
 
<- doesn't watch too many movies
 
ok well, I want to see it now! I will come back here and tell me opinion about it, just one thing, can I give my own vote to this movie in IMDB ?
 
I am not sure, it might require some type of registration
 
Anonymous
I think so.
 
ok, after watching, I will try to vote
 
9:10 PM
anyway
I need to sleep now .. I have a job interview tomorrow
 
Anonymous
@tereško mind sharing the job position?
 
ok, good. happy new job
 
Anonymous
@Sajad just confirmed: you can vote
 
verywell! thansk
 
9:43 PM
@Jimbo is a big ol' softy.
 
Anonymous
@Fabor is it finished?
 
Yup as of about 11 hours ago
 
Anonymous
I thought it was for 2 days.
 
3 days. Hackathon Friday, Main talks Saturday + Sunday morning.
Heavy and free drinking between Saturday and Sunday
 
Anonymous
Ah.
 
11:00 PM
Okay @NikiC git.php.net/… … now with enough tests to ensure scope isn't changed etc. ;-)
 

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