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2:00 PM
@HassanAlthaf Probably wrong term. More "technical" than hardware. So all of logic circuity, processor design, (operating) systems programming, networking should be covered there
 
since I have been looking to build a PC, I have been reasearching "hardware" part for past two months
it's actually quite interesting
.. but I still won't be able to build a custom water-cooling loop, no matter how much I research
because that sort of skill requires practice
 
I will have to learn to get my mindset to think that hardware is interesting unless it is really interesting.
@tereško I don't understand the message given by that video?
 
finish watching it
 
I will, but this is like a boring Economics lesson.
Oh it's about the unemployment created because of Programmers?
 
@SecondRikudo lol =] always ready for a wp bash
 
2:07 PM
@RonniSkansing :D
 
Sup Roonni
Just because of your help, I am still progressing with my project.
 
@tereško Ai programming bot that learns from SO will keep us employed for some time :)
 
@HassanAlthaf not much, just relaxing, just quit my job today, got a new one coming up the 1st.. so looking forward to that
 
Why did you quit your job?
Issues?
Or is it that your contract expired?
 
Argh, my internet connection is so dam slow last days. -_-'
 
2:09 PM
@HassanAlthaf who are you asking this to ?
 
@tereško about the unemployment, you.
 
I am employed =P
 
About quitting job, Ronni.
 
@HassanAlthaf not really, it was teaching and I want to develop, I got a great offer and said yes straight away
 
@tereško Though from the frequent rants he's making, hopefully not for very long?
 
2:10 PM
@SecondRikudo that's possible
 
@RonniSkansing Good luck with your new job.
 
Thanks
 
I personally don't like teaching.
I like to get a practical job.
 
I love teaching, but I like developing better..
 
"teaching" is another stage in learning, because, when you have to explain some subject to somebody else, you extend your own knowledge
 
2:14 PM
I like to teach in an environment like StackOverflow, but not lecturing because of my shortcomings with language.
 
2:43 PM
Is anyone online who is able to help?
 
3:00 PM
Guys, is it necessary to upload the other composer libraries on my project: github.com/HassanAlthaf/AccountingSystem
Its all in a folder called vendor
 
@HassanAlthaf on github? No. Just make sure to commit the composer.json and the .lock file
 
how to remove a folder which is uploaded on git?
 
Try searching abit on the interwebs =]
 
I did,,
But command line is not user friendly
Well noob friendly.
 
are you on windows?
if not, just spend some time getting learning it, it is well worth it
 
3:10 PM
I am on OS X
 
yea, so ditch the ui =] and use term for most stuff
it should be possible to search, read and try until you get it fixed (removing the folder from repo)
you can always just cp -R the folder (backup) before each try
 
3:39 PM
@PeeHaa you there?
 
Chatroom don'ts:
Randomly ping people. Particularly, don't ping many people at once (usually you're just being nice, but it's annoying).
Ask to ask a question. "I have a problem, can anyone help?!"
 
4:03 PM
@Danack … well… this is just a random ping.
 
Dat moment when you find out your tiny avatar bin works :P
 
:-D
 
Yeah....it should be "don't direct pings to randomly selected people", not just "don't ping randomly"
Also something something, someone complaining on internals about people voting 'No' without justifying their reason for voting no........and not being aware of the irony.
 
4:25 PM
most of the times I just make sure everything is up to date. Then:
1- I remove the folder
2- git add -A
3- git commit -m "removed folder ..."
4- git push ...
in my case: git push origin master
 
@Danack yeah... I was gonna ask, Stas almost always votes no (whether it's good or not is not what I want to talk about), but does he always justify? I don't really want to go through the RFCs and check it...
because if not, that's indeed very ironic.
 
Folks should have to justify their yes votes, to be consistent. :P
 
And justify why they don't vote!!1!
 
Oh yes, especially that!
 
@FlorianMargaine At the risk of casting aspersions, he seems to sometimes vote 'no' because he sometimes doesn't want to use a feature .....which is pretty self-centered.
 
4:30 PM
no... I don't doubt his good judgement on voting no, that's really not what I want to say
but if you say such things on the list, then you better be an example yourself
 
I doubt his judgement. He seems to be wilfully obtuse sometimes.
 
we can't all work the same way, some of us are self centred and those people never agreed to behave otherwise, most of the time I like to think I'm voting on behalf of a sector of the community, but it doesn't need to be that way ...
 
I just toss a coin and that decides my vote.
 
4:46 PM
the community of users is so vast, that even if someone casts their vote without having discussed with anyone the details of the objections, a large number of people are going to agree, assuming the voter isn't just factually incorrect about something, but that's not often going to be the case ...
 
user895378
Certificate Authorities are bastards. Charging hundreds of $$$ more for a wildcard cert? It's the same thing as a regular cert!!!! All you did was add a *. at the beginning of the CN field!
 
user895378
Also: morning.
 
Think of it like a shiny pokemon card. Basically the same thing, but mysteriously more desirable.
 
@rdlowrey hundreds???
 
user895378
 
4:58 PM
Mine is less than 100
I think
Still a scam though
 
user895378
Yeah I mean there are good ones and bad ones. Some are ridiculous though and just ream people because they don't know any better.
 
user895378
> Important Note: GlobalSign now issues Free DV Certificates to qualifying open source projects. We no longer issue free Wildcard certificates.
 
user895378
^ cheaters!
 
user895378
We need to look into what's required to become a trusted certificate authority and just vastly undercut the market and not hose people ...
 
user895378
It's not like it costs anything to actually do it. The whole process is automated.
 
5:00 PM
oh lol
 
user895378
Although you probably have to pay the root CAs $$$ for them to sign your intermediate cert
 
Yeah I suppose that is going to cost you big
 
user895378
In summary, this:
 
user895378
3 mins ago, by PeeHaa
Still a scam though
 
user895378
Wildcard certs are The Worst™, though. It’s literally no different from a non-wildcard cert. All it means is you set the CN field to *.mysite.com instead of mysite.com
 
5:04 PM
@salathe not sure if you're just trolling... but justifying yay votes is way more important than to justify nay votes, most of the times.
 
@marcio Not trolling… if justifying "no" votes becomes a thing, so should "yes" votes.
 
user895378
Every time someone's vote doesn't go how they want it to this same complaint about justifying votes comes up. It's literally no different from when someone on SO complains that someone downvoted them and didn't give a reason. It's nothing more than being a whiny wanker. Period. Nothing new. Not worth getting flustered over.
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user895378
@PeeHaa This guy is bananas!
 
Bad ass motherfucker
 
user895378
5:09 PM
Suck it, Legolas!
 
Fun fact @rdlowrey globalsign still prefers the rc4 beast mitigation while ssl labs does not
 
user895378
No one who knows what they're doing should be using RC4 ... will it mitigate BEAST? Sure, but the algorithm is compromised lol.
 
user895378
Talk about the medicine being worse than the disease ...
 
:)
 
user895378
My personal tinfoil theory is that BEAST was "uncovered" at the behest of certain government agencies who wanted to encourage people to use a compromised algorithm.
 
user895378
5:13 PM
I have no basis for this statement beyond paranoia, of course.
 
In this case being paranoid is probably not paranoia, but actually justified
 
> Paranoid? Probably. But just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face. -- Jim Butcher, "Dresen Files" book series
 
user895378
It does seem odd that the obvious way to mitigate this big scary attack was to simply use this particular algorithm that we subsequently learned the US and UK spies had broken a long time ago.
 
Yeah that is true. Fucking gubermen )(_#(&#(NO CARRIER
 
does the person who get's a star here receives a notification? sometimes I star a reply like "+1 agree" but I'm not sure if the person knows it or thinks I just walked away from the conversation xD
 
user895378
5:19 PM
@marcio nope, no notifications on stars.
 
user895378
It's just a fun little meta thing to draw attention to messages that people may have missed.
 
oh, better reply from now on then.
 
Also, you have to state your reason for agreeing.
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lol ^
 
user895378
Let's be honest: "People should have to justify their votes," is really just code for "I'm smarter than you and I disagree with your vote."
 
@Danack lol
 
@Danack 14 hours long photoshoot :|
 
5:39 PM
@rdlowrey you mean… "I think I'm smarter than you and disagree with your vote"?
 
user895378
@bwoebi yes, that.
 
user895378
But the person thinking it omits, "think," of course :)
 
not true ^^ … at least not here.
 
monning @AndreaFaulds
 
@rdlowrey I must have forgotten how when I vote in the UK, I have to write my reason on the ballot paper. Oh wait.
@PeeHaa ronming
 
user895378
@AndreaFaulds Is that a for real thing there? And: morning to you.
 
patience young one :)
 
6:26 PM
jee
> Apple didn't make iPhone because a lot of
people came to them and asked them to make an iPhone. Of course, I'm not
comparing my little RFC to a technological breakthrough, but the whole
premise that new things can be made only when enough people complained
about not having it sounds wrong to me.
 
something something Ford, faster horse something something
 
where did the iPhone reference come from?
 
2 hours ago, by Danack
Also something something, someone complaining on internals about people voting 'No' without justifying their reason for voting no........and not being aware of the irony.
"Of course, I'm not comparing my little RFC to a technological breakthrough, " - well, yes you are. You did it right in the previous sentence.....
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iPhones had plenty of design flaws, BTW.
 
NO! iphones are perfect and have always been perfect in every way you insensitive clod!
 
6:37 PM
Apple don't claim they're perfect. Only that they're the best. It's true!
 
user895378
@Danack lol
 
but but I had to wrap the iPhone4 in a (fancy) apple rubber cover to be able to hold it and have wifi at the same time
 
:P
Could somebody ELI5 to me what the BC breaks are for the jsond vote?
@bwoebi ^
 
PHP allowed some forms of invalid JSON to be parsed
 
That I see. But I fail to decipher what used to work which will not work anymore. Can I haz example?
I.e. what does the top level mean?
 
6:44 PM
@bwoebi will we have a constant to know we are using jsond and not jsonc or old json ext?
jsonc (remi ext) has it
 
@marcio there's nothing about it in the RFC
 
@bwoebi that's why I'm asking
 
@PeeHaa 1.
.1
 
ooooooooooh
tnx :)
 
@bwoebi this way ones can easily do "if(defined('JSOND'))"
 
6:48 PM
Basically somebody was lazy and just hooked up strtod
Rather than following the spec
 
I see
 
@marcio new version has JSON_PRESERVE_ZERO_FRACTION constant, so you'll be able to differ here.
 
@boe@bwoebi according to json.org railroad diagrams you need a {} or a [] as root element :)
 
@marcio which isn't an issue. Just "1." shouldn't.
@marcio well, I'm not that deep onto the spec…
 
not a big deal, anyway
 
6:59 PM
How should I explain that input data doesn't belong to a service container (as in request or session can not be a service)? Is there any links you know that I could give? I am too lazy to write it by myself :/
 
So I was scrolling through my twitter feed, when I found this piece of art again core.trac.wordpress.org/browser/tags/3.9.1/src/wp-includes/…
 
wow, that's quite a lot for a redirect
 
Amazing right the amount of crap you can put in a single function
 
Apache source code has less lines
 
:P
 
7:16 PM
As someone that has hardly any knowledge of SQLite, could someone please tell me whether MySQL export files (.sql) produce the same content as exporting a database in SQLite would?
 
@jskidd3 No
(probably)
 
Shite
Is there any way I can manage an SQLite database from my PC?
 
There are GUIs for it
 
Like I have workbench for MySQL remotely
Ok cheers
 
103
Q: Which SQLite administration console do you recommend?

Rodrigo GuerreiroI've been doing some development using sqlite (which BTW it's awesome). Until now I've used the SQLite Administrator. Although it has some great features, there are some annoying bugs. So, I ask you, what administration consoles (GUI) do you recommend for SQLite?

 
7:18 PM
Brilliant, thanks
 
np
 
 
2 hours later…
Is there any reason why jmp offsets are relative to them and relative to op_array start? :x
^ forget this…
 
9:50 PM
:)
 
So. Many. Flags.
 
I wrote a new language on the plane for funsies: gist.github.com/ircmaxell/6252ae24340edf5ba757
 
I'm reading news.php.net/php.internals/80910 - should filename_len be a size_t for something like:
zend_parse_parameters(ZEND_NUM_ARGS() TSRMLS_CC, "r|s!", &zstream, &filename, &filename_len)
And is it only working by coincidence if an int is being passed in there?
 
@Danack yes and yes
 
@Danack mainly the following params break then…
 
10:34 PM
ty. ...
 
morni
 
#define Z_IMAGICKDRAW_P(zv) php_imagickdraw_fetch_object(Z_OBJ_P((zv)))

php_imagickdraw_object *internd;
internd = Z_IMAGICKDRAW_P(getThis());
 
When should I use a class constant? Is it only when I have a property that I would never need to modify?
 
gives warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast - this used to work....I can't see why an int is even getting returned...
@crypticツ Yeah, or when you want to expose that constant to users and make it obvious that the constant is associated with that class.
 
ah, damnit. I can't do it since it's an array and not supported in 5.4
 
10:45 PM
@m6w6 - this may be me being exceptionally not clever - but where the heck does zend_object_store_get_object come from? I can't see it in Zend.
 
oh, I thought array constants were possible in 5.6 but the RFC was only for scalar values. I wonder why arrays are not supported. O_o @bwoebi maybe I've asked this before awhile back, but do you know?
 
@crypticツ they are?
just not in define(), that's for 7.
but works with const.
 
@Danack you're likely using an undeclared function. int is the assumed return value
 
@bwoebi I got an associative multi-dim array that PhpStorm is saying is not allowed. Let me test the code...
 
@crypticツ seems like PHPStorm is being dumb :>
 
10:57 PM
@NikiC Yep....the hack I put in to detect php "7" had failed....
Because I'm compiling against 5.6......
 
waaaah… I'm writing Z_LONG() all the time :-(
 
yep, Pstorm being stupid. youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/WI-23897 you even commented on it =oP
 
Hehe
 
11:38 PM
I now remember why I feared odesk: odesk.com/o/jobs/job/_~01980bf810d0997d1f
> this work on hours bases and we will pay for that 3$ / hours you should be expert in Php and java script
 
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A: Pros and Cons of Interface constants

ircmaxellWell, I think that it boils down to the difference between good and good enough. While in most cases you can avoid the use of constants by implementing other patterns (strategy or perhaps flyweight), there is something to be said for not needing a half dozen other classes to represent a concep...

 

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