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10:00 PM
@PeeHaa About six hours ago, the ping wouldn't autocomplete :p
 
Did you try @@@@@PeeHaa?
It's a site wide ping
:)
 
Five? Five?
 
yeap
 
Five!?
Man, that's some well-hidden functionality right there.
But only if it works.
 
I want to test this now
 
10:01 PM
Well I just did.
 
no output
$killer='kill';
echo $killer;
why?
 
@tereško You should compile a checklist or set of common questions things that hint whether your app really is MVC so you can just paste it to people.
 
@IGotRoot Your code has to be broken somewhere.
 
Yeah, what sapi are you using?
BTW is SAPI pronounced 'Sappy' or do we spell it out?
 
@charels even echo "no row";
i sbroken, but i'm echoing other stuff
 
10:06 PM
@PeeHaa I believe there's some (unwritten?) rule for this, you can't use actual IP addresses ... though, 192.168. addresses should be fine afaict :)
 
You've got the bug @IGotRoot
 
what bug?
 
Say the bug in a Jamaican accent.
 
lol, an id 10 t error
 
@IGotRoot try to reproduce the problem with the shortest amount of code, the code you pasted earlier works fine in isolation
 
10:07 PM
:::blows brains out:::
 
@Ja͢ck Strange rules :P
 
That's why there's Hollywood logic, Hollywood science, etc. ;-)
 
@PeeHaa It's the same reason that Hollywood only uses "555" phone numbers. You wouldn't want to publish an IP address or a real website name, people are stupid.
some shows go as far as actually buying domain names and putting up real fake sites
 
they should seriously have some bad guy do a DDOS against 127.something just for the entertainment value
 
10:12 PM
@Charles Yeah but about real website names... I see (possible) real ones all the time
Same for possible real emailaddresses
 
@SecondRikudo No remarks on MVC? :)
 
@Fabien I haven't bothered looking that far.
I'll leave that to @tereško.
 
Slowly the post is accruing downvotes :D
 
I kind of feel bad for the dude.
But that's kinda what you get when you post things in reddit
 
Ass Guard PHP Framework
6
 
10:14 PM
@SecondRikudo do not, that is what you get for posting on reddit
 
Especially without getting it code reviewed properly.
 
=/ it is a horrible place =]
 
Don't forget that /r/php really doesn't set their standards as absurdly high as we sometimes get in here.
 
@Ja͢ck That's a good one :D
 
@Charles /r/PHP is usually wrong
 
@tereško wat
 
@AndreaFaulds Often they are, and there's a high correlation between wrongness and not recognizing minimum standards :)
 
@tereško This is just getting better and better
 
is that an ORM?
 
I .. emm ... hmm ... am not entirely sure
 
10:19 PM
Guys, you're all looking too deeply. I think you missed that the project uses tab indentation.
 
What's wrong with tabs?
 
^ I was just now looking at that exact file
 
@AndreaFaulds Oh lord
Someone please post that as a comment on his thread
 
It's not even consistent WITHIN THE SAME FUNCTION, look at offsetSet!
 
10:21 PM
also, it loks like he has to pay extra for every { and }
 
That annoys me way more than the tabs. I mean the tabs is an easy fix, but the missing braces
 
By the way, is having multiple composer packages in a single repo a common pattern? I'm... newer to Composer than I'd like to admit ^^'
 
@AndreaFaulds no it's not common, because it doesn't really work
 
@tereško oh lord
 
10:23 PM
Hey guys I have problem here, can you take a look?
http://collabedit.com/4qbxn
 
Because this is so much shorter than actually entering HTML
 
@TomášAresakMalčánek "Fatal error: Can't use method return value in write context" -- wow...
 
I think that's enough bashing for one day.
 
10:24 PM
I've never actually seen that one before. Write context in an empty?
 
return Container::singleton()->get(strtolower(get_called_class()));
 
@tereško It's a proxy, I think?
@Charles wat
 
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woopsie
 
10:26 PM
@AndreaFaulds Exactly.
 
So it's a facade over... the class which implements it
 
@AndreaFaulds did .. you .. read it .. reaaaaaly carefully?
 
it's a facade over the singleton of that class?
 
It's a frightening abomination, that's what it is.
 
Oh gawd, I can't look at that crap anymore ... my eyes.
 
10:28 PM
I think we should forget about this piece of crap.
I'm going to bed, hope it doesn't give me nightmares.
Night
 
I will say that it's a good first shot into doing something new for the first time. Gotta learn by making mistakes.
@SecondRikudo Don't let the statics bite...
 
A fatal exception. Nice.
 
github.com/asgardphp/asgard/commit/… this commit froze my browser for a while
 
Looking at the code of Asgard Framework makes me want to smash a rainbow bridge.
 
10:29 PM
Sorry, we could not display the entire diff because too many files (326) changed.
 
Poor guy.
 
@Fabien Eh, he posted it on /r/php He's probably a masochist
 
Well, he's not a fabpot kind of guy I guess and surely he gets nasty comments about his own work.
 
Okay guys I have enought for today.. Cya tomorrow :)
 
10:33 PM
bye
 
ya know what
I cannot take it any more
 
I can see the xkcd comic in my head...
"Man! I love my framework, I should share it on r/php!"
"...moments later"
"Brains---->keyboard"
 
fuck him
him and his entire bloodline
 
lol
everyone is entitled to their opinion
 
10:36 PM
apparently you just now joined the conversation .. feel free to scroll up, @RonniSkansing
 
@AndreaFaulds Ahahaha no sanitization whatsoever on the command params...
At least he's using proc_open.
 
@tereško I read it from top down, I was actully refering to you =] not whoeverwrotewhaver
I can not agree or disagree with that comment about his bloodline, but it was quite funny
 
by the way , I will leave you guys wit this thought:
it is quite bad if someone mixes indentation , it is also bad if someone does not use curly braces .. but if someone does both of those thing s in same file - it becomes a clusterfuck
 
BTW, I forget who was asking about it yesterday but here is an example of PDO returning different data depending on if emulated prepares are on or not. Good to know. And a touch scary.
 
Oh hi @LeviMorrison :)
 
10:42 PM
:)
 
@Charles Yeah, I thought that was rather interesting :)
 
I think it's actually the expected behaviour
because if you are using emulated prepares, then every value is treated as a string
 
I'm not sure why it triggers on when you turn off emulated prepares though.
This is on the return data.
The results, not the prepared stuff.
 
@tereško My thoughts as well.
@Charles Might be a different pathway or packet in the protocol, I'd wager.
 
@AndreaFaulds Makes me wonder if things that aren't mysql react the same way.
Like it might be a mysqlnd-ism.
 
10:46 PM
true
someone should test it with sqlite/postgre
or not , because IIRC emulated prepares where a mysql-thing
/me is quite fuzzy on details
... anyway
nn
 
I know that they're on by default for everything, but I don't know which they're always and only on for.
 
@JoeWatkins any idea about phpdbg issue #108?
 
11:28 PM
Hello
 

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