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6:00 PM
@Leri Can't believe you took a shortcut here with eval stackoverflow.com/a/14685462 :O
 
@HamZa There're only few large employers in my country so it does not worth doing that here.
@HamZa Looks pretty ancient. Let me look what was the question
 
@JoeWatkins I don't think C needs namespaces
 
@HamZa Shit, I could not delete. @Gordon Can you delete this?
Reason. It's crap. ^
 
@ircmaxell good :D
 
@Leri well just edit it ?
 
6:05 PM
RAII would be cool, but that can be worked around
 
@HamZa That implies regex updating and all. Also @Jon covers it well.
 
my point was more that if you want something in C then you have the tools to implement it, that it doesn't come with everything under the sun is good in my opinion ...
 
@JoeWatkins My main point was that as a low level language it isn't without flaws (some significant). But most projects that require low level languages should be mostly built with higher level ones, and only use the critical paths in C.
@JoeWatkins yeah, there's no perfect language or spot for every problem. :-)
 
What equation does shift left and shift right do?
 
@user3123545 you mean bitwise ?
 
6:10 PM
Yes
 
@user3123545 sort-of multiply / divide by 2 respectively
 
5 << 1 == 5 * 2
what equation does << and >> perform?
 
it's not really, because of overflow behavior
 
@user3123545 It moves the bits to the left/right
 
In digital computer programming, a bitwise operation operates on one or more bit patterns or binary numerals at the level of their individual bits. It is a fast, primitive action directly supported by the processor, and is used to manipulate values for comparisons and calculations. On simple low-cost processors, typically, bitwise operations are substantially faster than division, several times faster than multiplication, and sometimes significantly faster than addition. While modern processors usually perform addition and multiplication just as fast as bitwise operations due to their lo...
 
6:11 PM
@HAMZA Ye I know, I wondered if there's an equation to find out the value of specific shift, so I dont have to make a calculator or use one for it
 
wow
 
also, while we are on this subject, could someone make me some tea? green, no milk, no sugar
"now" would be ok
 
@tereško Yeah, @tereško can do that. ;)
 
6:18 PM
Anyone know how to get in contact with the php.net postmaster EXCEPT trough @php.net address?
 
@RouvenWeßling why?
 
@PeeHaa My E-Mails to any @php.net account get consistently rejected as spam. Luckily doesn't affect mailing lists.
But annoying.
 
@RouvenWeßling You sure you aren't on a blacklist?
 
@PeeHaa Fair question, haven't had problems anywhere else so I haven't checked.
 
6:21 PM
@RouvenWeßling Try sending to test@tchizik.com
I know for sure that they use a public blacklist
 
@PeeHaa All green or timeouts
@SecondRikudo Uh, what/who is behind that address?
 
@RouvenWeßling Me.
That's an address on my domain
 
odd. So you cannot send mail to my SO nickname @php.net?
 
Arrived
 
@PeeHaa Had it fail now for Julien, Jakub and postmaster@
@SecondRikudo Thanks. I'm fairly certain it's a php.net problem at this point.
 
6:26 PM
Looks like php doesn't like you anymore :P
 
@RouvenWeßling try sending me a message, I've got my mail set up slightly differently to those guys.
 
@salathe Those silly mortals.
 
@PeeHaa Ah, some google foo indicates it has something to do with my host (ma.juii.net/blog/emails-from-host-europe-vps-arrive-as-spam). Weird it has never caused problems before.
 
@SecondRikudo Have you seen this ?
 
6:31 PM
@HamZa Not yet, looking.
 
Thanks
 
@HamZa That's impressive and ambitious. Are you planning on writing it all in a single answer? Or somehow link to different answers?
Also, why isn't this in Markdown mode?
 
@SecondRikudo I'm planning to search for answers and link them. I think I won't be able to find all answers so I think I either should write them myself or let others answer it (in separate answers)
@SecondRikudo I don't know, I chose markdown ...
 
@HamZa Rename the file name to have .md extension.
 
@SecondRikudo lol, thanks. It worked !
 
6:36 PM
=)
Also a note, there shouldn't be a space before punctuation.
(Like this! and not like this !)
 
Oh ok ...
Will fix that
 
Simple search and replace, RegEx master :)
\s+([?!.])
 
@SecondRikudo hehehehehe I did it by hand. Silly me ...
 
6:55 PM
@lusitanian wake up!
 
@SecondRikudo Could someone edit directly my gist ?
 
@HamZa No
Someone with a link can fork it
But only the owner can edit the original
 
@SecondRikudo when forked, could it be "merged" ?
 
Not sure, never tried.
 
ok thx
 
@AmalMurali Look one post up ;)
 
@PeeHaa: I saw that. That was a cv-pls right? :P
 
@AmalMurali hmmmmmm bug in the plugin. It told me it was a cv
:)
 
Right. This has happened before too. IIRC, bwoebi saw it.
 
lolwut
@PeeHaa in english call somebody ranting is not very nice. do I even know you? and why did you even care? like i said, leave it if you don't like. why did you even bother to post those invalid post on my post? — shanyangqu 2 mins ago
 
7:33 PM
@PeeHaa Why did you even bother? Why? Whyyyyy??!!!!!
 
Yeah I should know better by now, but I was bored:D
 
Because he's exactly the kind of person the guy is talking about... apparently. -_-
 
:D We're such a great match
 
CAM
Hi guys ! been quite a while
been doing the #irc tour
 
well ... SO has over 1'000'000 registered users ... and then there are 200 who just keep on bitching .. loudly
 
7:40 PM
wow @JoeWatkins you know you don't have to bump the version number of uopz for every single commit? :P
 
Wow. Again. This answer is a blind copy paste from checkupdown.com/status/E405.html . Hardly relevant lol.
 
@JoeWatkins fun fact, 41% of the commits have a log message of "..." :P
 
hehehe
 
7:44 PM
@CAM IRC tour? What do you mean? o.O
 
CAM
I have a question? I am building an application, (tiered per se) for example I am building my API to provide resetful endpoints,
and an Angular app to consume the API. My Conserns are Security .. ie CSRF protection for my users. (my backend would provide this normally , but with an angular app isolated from the backend code what would be the best approach here? )

/repo
/api (all Rest)
/angular (no PHP)
@AmalMurali I have been hanging in the various IRC Rooms , #phpc , #sdphp , #hhvm ... yad and yad
 
I've worked it out ...
You can't directly merge gists. So here's the procedure:
1- You create a gist
2- Someone forks it, edits it
3- Locally, you will create a folder.
git init
git remote add origin LinkToMyGist
git pull origin master
git pull LinkToForkedGist
git push origin master
Voila ...
 
Heh, nice
Didn't know you can clone a gist into a repo.
 
@CAM: On which network? freenode or OFTC?
 
CAM
freenode
 
7:46 PM
@HamZa You could replace the first three with git clone
 
@salathe mwahahaha thanks man !
 
CAM
does SO provide this room in IRC?
 
@SecondRikudo Gists are just git repos like any other
 
@PeeHaa: Jon Skeet summoned :)
"its a valid question" - no, it's really not in my opinion, and clearly in the opinion of others too. Or rather, it's not a valid question for Stack Overflow. Not all questions which are "valid" in the abstract are appropriate for Stack Overflow. — Jon Skeet 2 mins ago
 
7:47 PM
@CAM: See chat.stackoverflow.com/faq (Under "Why can't you guys just use IRC man")
 
CAM
HAHAH
 
@hakre :)
 
@hakre: inb4 1000 upvotes
Any one else seeing weird formatting on chat.stackoverflow.com/faq
 
@AmalMurali I see no formatting at all lol
 
7:52 PM
That's what I meant.. :P
 
@AmalMurali Yeah, CSS file probably got screwed
 
user2286243
IRC is ugly and lacks lot of features
 
CAM
I have quite enjoyed it w/ OSX app Textual
 
@VarunAgw: Then apparently you haven't used it enough.
 
user2286243
@AmalMurali wrong guess
 
user2286243
7:54 PM
I am active IRC user
 
CAM
Oooh did I start awar ?
/me gets popcorn
 
@VarunAgw: Then maybe you just don't like it. :P
 
@VarunAgw wut !!! Have you ever used XDCC ?
 
user2286243
@CAM ★ Cam gets popcorn
 
CAM
7:56 PM
what a teh channels for yalls?
 
user2286243
@HamZa no, only Xchat and freenode webchat
 
XDCC (Xabi DCC or eXtended DCC) is a computer file sharing method which uses the Internet Relay Chat (IRC) network as a host service. History Limitations in the original DCC protocol prevented the transfers of very large files, or groups of files. XDCC was developed to allow batching of files together, and requesting/sending those files to others. XDCC was initially a script written in 1994 for ircII by [http://xa.bi/ Xabi]. This script extends the ircII DCC command. Now XDCC refers to IRC bots running file sharing programs in general. XDCC bots serve one or more usually large files ...
 
CAM
#puphpet, #sdphp, #phpc, #symfony, #laravel
@camdesigns
 
Such download, very fast, much better, wow
 
0
Q: Eek! Chat FAQ formatting gone

Amal MuraliSo I was going to read the chat FAQ and saw this: The formatting looks completely messed up. Is it just me?

 
7:58 PM
@AmalMurali such free rep ...
 
CAM
Anybody have any insight on my prev Q?
 
@HamZa much efforts
 
CAM
or am I doing it wrong ...
 
hehehehe
@CAM what is your prev Q ?
 
CAM
Ahhh @HamZa vertical scroll blindness eh ?
 
7:59 PM
@CAM I got a nullpointerexception, can't find it hehehe :P
 
CAM
@12:45pm here
Ha
IDFK how to link to it
 
5 mins ago, by CAM
Oooh did I start awar ?
 
CAM
nope higher
repost :
I have a question? I am building an application, (tiered per se) for example I am building my API to provide resetful endpoints,
and an Angular app to consume the API. My Conserns are Security .. ie CSRF protection for my users. (my backend would provide this normally , but with an angular app isolated from the backend code what would be the best approach here? )

/repo
/api (all Rest)
/angular (no PHP)
 
user2286243
@HamZa oops I thought it is some IRC client
 
@CAM Hmmm I need to build something like that soon. Wondering how to do that ...
 
CAM
8:05 PM
HA
noice
well I can give you insight to my thoghts
Ideally my front end team does front end
 
@CAM What does "isolated from the backend code" mean?
 
CAM
and does not concern themselves w/ templating de jour
@PeeHaa explaining now
 
There has to be some connection with the backend one way or another
 
@SecondRikudo: Seems like it's an http vs https issue.
 
CAM
yes
the connection would be via an API
 
8:06 PM
Then what is the problem with csrf?
 
@AmalMurali So it would seem
 
CAM
I provide my API in SF / Silex / yada
and teh front end consoumes it
 
Yes and where does csrf come into play?
 
CAM
so dev in front end would be isolated serving the dev app in Nodejs server
and dist would serve via nginx in stage and prod
CSRF would be more of a concern
 
Where does the csrf come from?
 
CAM
8:09 PM
would I not want to pass that token on initial load of the Form?
right
 
13 secs ago, by PeeHaa
Where does the csrf come from?
 
CAM
this is what I am wrapping my head around
 
user2286243
39 secs ago, by PeeHaa
Where does the csrf come from?
 
@CAM read this
 
CAM
do I oauth in and provide the token tehn ? or just roll with the oauth
friggin ircmaxwell
 
8:10 PM
;)
 
CAM
he's good
sure
great
on init login to the app on the reply to the auth do I just pass the token back and drop it in the form (roughly )
i guess I just wonder about this part
if i were using twig / blade yada it would just be injected into the for w/ the form components
 
/me need to note these ideas ...
 
CAM
Essentially I want to ditch twig / blade
effectively making my team more interchangeable
php devs jump in and go #HAM on API
frontend Devs do frontend stuff , not sweating Templating engines
make sense?
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Q: Symfony2 And Single Webpage Applications using a framework like AngularJS

Simon(If this is not the right place to post this kind of question I'd happily post it somewhere else) I'm trying to build an interactive web application to manage company resources. I have experience with Symfony2 but I kind of hit a wall with this new application. I'd like to make this application...

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Q: Angularjs on a symfony2 application

Louis GrelletI'm working on a SF2 application that uses a lot of javascript on the front end. SF2 provides me a good way of building a nice REST app, manage my database with doctrine, use twig for templates and so on, but I would like to use Angularjs. I know that angularjs an SF2 are 2 different framework ...

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I don't want assetic, or asset pipeline or any php opinionated frontend tools
grunt will do just fine or gulp if we so choose
 
@CAM Why don't you use nodejs for backend ?
 
CAM
nah... job security
we have a fluency w/ PHP
too much aof a curve
 
8:20 PM
Makes sense
 
CAM
also this arch lends itself to mobile fairly easily
and integrations
 
@HamZa node… don't bring in bad ideas (or I mean suboptimal) PHP is just perfect!
 
CAM
HA
okay
/me working on a sick project leveraging node to build cross platform apps
anyone willing to get down on the Opensource proj LMK
I have a POC + horizon plan
 
what's a POC @CAM ?
 
CAM
Proof of concept
 
8:29 PM
@crypticツ We missed you :P
 
@HamZa I drop by once in awhile. Got a lot of stuff going on for the next 3 or so months, but will stop here every so often to say hi and do some cv-pls =oP
 
ok :)
 
CAM
anyone looking for work ?
 
@CAM more specific? Is it walking dogs, painting houses, changing bed pans, or web work?
 
In PHPUnit can you make an internal private method return a fixed value in a real object, not a mock?
 
CAM
8:33 PM
@crypticツ i need a manservant
Freakin PHP Dev
in Sunny San Diego
 
@CAM yeah. permanently (:
 
CAM
ya
alma github? / linkedin / cv / resume?
 
So it's not remotely ?
 
CAM
Nope
could be a relo
 
well - I'm not in San Diego.. but here is my cv since relocate isn't a problem :p But I'm .. slacker :p
 
CAM
8:40 PM
Stack?
 
hey i am trying to pull data from mysql using nodejs.. it worked well on my localhost.. but when i do the same on my vps it says undefined.. any idea why? i am using nginx
 
@CAM um .. ?
 
CAM
if you are a slacker IDK if i liek taht
 
@CAM almost every regular here is a slacker, don't you think ?
 
well I hate to repeat my work. DRY as a life principle :p
 
CAM
8:42 PM
Uhhh ha
perhaps
 
@HamZa preciesly
 
CAM
@AlmaDo if you have real interest, I will need contact info
NM
I have it
 
um. Send it (: In any case, that's a good point to extend my experience in - what's going on around. But if I'll interest - be sure, I'll be on contact
you need my @ ?
 
CAM
I have your email
 
oh ok
 
CAM
8:44 PM
your github is sparse
lets talk offline
 
oh yeah
but it's hm.. 1:00 AM + today for me (: and I have to go work in 7 hours now :p Night room
 
CAM
NP
Email is not time crucial
 
Mornings
 
morning
 
jo @DaveRandom
 
9:02 PM
Is signup.live.com broken for everyone or just me?
 
value="<?php echo set_value('SurveyTitle', $surveydata->SurveyTitle); ?>" hi if i want to get this SurveyTitle value in the controller method how do i do that? @codeigniter
anyone?
 
@PeeHaa just you
 
Damnit. /me tries another browser IE...
 
user2286243
Try Shift+F5
 
No dice
Of course it does work in IE
 
9:06 PM
Shit only works with shit.
 
CAM
uhhh... @vini is that a class with a proerty of SurveyTitle that is scoped to what ?
 
(aka something from Micisoft only works with something else from them)
 
its an array and SurveyTiitle is on of its fields
 
CAM
@vini you can assign that value to the $data object then pass it in
then just echo it in your form
 
can i access the surveydata back in another controller method?
$surveydata
 
CAM
9:09 PM
why not ?
gist up ur codez?
 
i anew to codeigniter sorry about that
i am new*
 
CAM
NP
I am gisting what I think i might do
@vini try something like gist.github.com/chrisamoore/9879909
 
okies thanks
 
CAM
hopefully that makes sense?
 
9:43 PM
 
hehehehehe
 
I encountered scale today, it says I'm 114kg, it didn't end up well for it.
A minute of silence for the one hour we lost today.
 
Oh right.Almost forgot
 
ahahahaha
 
10:20 PM
@webarto you lost today, we lost 2 weeks ago ;-)
 
I know, I had to sign in 1 hour earlier to work :P
Best thing was, On 1st of May 2011, I went to BBQ entire day, and when I got home, I saw that everyone is online. It seems that International Workers' Day is not so international.
 
@webarto So you want me to lose one hour and one minute? I want that god damned minute!
 
:D
A friend is following order from Supreme Leader.
 
@webarto That's a nice look.
 
user652649
@Ocramius I don't agree
 
user652649
10:31 PM
 
user652649
Code drunk, Refactor sober.
 
user652649
still have to make a poster of this
 
I'd say no...
 
user652649
:P
 
coding is a stupid task. It requires methodic and boring tasks to be executed
can't do that shit while drunk
designing is fun :P
 
10:38 PM
Uh-oh - the Java guys have discovered PHP templates - cs.usfca.edu/~parrt/course/601/lectures/stringtemplate.html
 
11:08 PM
@webarto I have a project manager at work with that hair cut
never made the connection before
 
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