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2:00 PM
Hello everybody.
 
no , it was semi-serious question , because it is a common practice in India to list EVERYTHING in the CV .. If you edited font-sise to font-size in some project, you list it as your past experience ... and so on
 
user1125394
it''s an important fix commit
 
@cyril , this is how my CV looks like :
And that's all ..
 
@tereško I like your style, got a bit bigger?
You can blur it.
 
2:04 PM
at the bottom there is "skills" session for : 'programming', 'languages', 'tools' and 'operating systems'
 
user1125394
programming / languages / tools / OS
 
user1125394
k so glassfish apache are inside progarmming
 
no , you do not list apache at all
unless you are aiming for a job a sysadmin
 
user1125394
I had Development / Environment (stands for your OS) / Softwares / Databases / Speaking Languages
 
Or are really good at it, which I doubt (no offence)
 
2:06 PM
There is nothing wrong listing apache in my opinion even with basic knowledge. You are showing the boss you are aware what apache is and bit of skill.
 
user1125394
@DaveRandom no pb I'm truly bad at it
 
user1125394
I'm aware that apache exists
 
the "tools" are things like : Visual Paradigm, Photoshop, Inkscape, PHPUnit, Git
 
Right, well definitely don't put anything on it that you are bad at or you'll get shot down at interview.
 
user1125394
and sudo apache2ctl restart
 
2:07 PM
@cyril whether that works at all depends on what os/flavor your server's running
 
user1125394
@DaveRandom no joking I can also do rewrite rules, I need to meantion it, or else I have barely nothing
 
some of the centos boxes i run, for example, it's "sudo service httpd restart"
 
user1125394
or sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
 
freebsd would have apachectrl restart
 
point being, knowing a command line won't help much in an interview :)
 
user1125394
2:09 PM
yes.. first trying to get an interview
 
@cyril Well if you have "barely nothing" you're probably (should be) going for a junior dev job, in which case they won't (shouldn't) really care about language/skill specifics, only that you understand some of the programming fundamentals and have a basic syntactic grasp of whatever language(s) they want you to work in. Anything else is just hot air.
 
if you don't know enough to start/restart it regardless of the os, you're better off not listing it on your resume at all
 
then make your cv promising so that you get the interview. in the interview show that you want the job. motivation is a key point.
 
user1125394
for ex I don't really want to work with C++ or dotnet,
 
@cyril So don't apply for any of those jobs then
 
2:11 PM
do you know .net?
 
(too obvious?)
 
user1125394
also SQL, only if I'm forced to
 
I am a PHP Developer at work even I am learning all the time.. I did well in the interview 2 years ago =)
 
user1125394
but it's not so complicated
 
@I'll-Be-Back Where do you work?
 
2:12 PM
lol, well, find out what the job is about so you can decide whether or not you want it. that's also something an interview is good for.
 
@cyril you're kinda picky for someone with hardly any skills. :)
 
user1125394
I'd really like to work with nosql stuff, but really few offers, or even graph databases, even less offers near to 0
 
That band wagon can't have much space left on it...
 
@cyril Things are not complicated only if u know them well.
 
DaveRandom near middleton
 
2:13 PM
@I'll-Be-Back No I meant company :-P
 
telecom company.
 
let's clear this up now. if you're doing web dev, and your page is anything more than hello world, you probably will be using sql.
 
Jo Bitches!
 
S'up dawg...
 
holla chika!
 
2:15 PM
@ircmaxell :)
@Gordon :)
 
Can you people say: Weeeeeeeekend! ?
 
@cyril you should not list thing in CV that you are clueless about
 
Weeeeeeeekend!!!!!
 
@Eugene :)
 
@PeeHaa have not left the bed today :)
 
2:16 PM
:P
 
lol
 
I have 2 more hours till the end of work day. :(
 
If anyone finds that offensive feel free to flag it. Hell, I find her offensive.
 
@DaveRandom Where do you work?
 
2:17 PM
:)
@I'll-Be-Back far far away in a unicorn land :)
 
@I'll-Be-Back Sysadmin for a vending company in stockport.
 
@cyril make sure u frame ur cv sharp as it leaves impression before u r allowed to, and teresko is right, no clueless points, as it makes a -1 instantly
 
Cool
@DaveRandom I do Sysadmin sometime at work
 
@tereško Mine is 3 pages... :-D
 
and Asterisk
 
@DaveRandom reality beats everything.
 
@Eugene fook the job and start drinking
 
@DaveRandom two linux servers
1 server from Rapidswitch and other one from eukhost
 
@AnandS.Bahuguna English or GTFO
 
Asterisk is cool, my boss want me to develop a dialer system soon.
 
2:20 PM
@PeeHaa Sure, will take care now onwards..
 
@I'll-Be-Back I started out as a PBX engineer, seem to have drifted into all sorts of random areas. Knowing about telephony and IT really makes you understand just how awful most CTI stuff is though, some of those devs are just completely clueless.
 
Thanks, you rock. I have a hard time reading all those abbreviations of all your youngsters
 
@I'll-Be-Back I would have never thought of that :)
 
user1125394
@tereško your cv is the smallest version, I don't think you can do shorter :)
 
user1125394
you could give details about job
 
2:22 PM
what ?
 
user1125394
or else you have to always repeat it in all interviews
 
Asterisk is not cool. It suffers from the same endemic ground-up bad design that Apache is only just starting to recover from.
Most soft PBXs are like that
 
@tereško WAT?!?!?!111
 
@DaveRandom What alternative to Asterisk do you recommend?
 
And don't even get me started on the SIP protocol.
 
2:23 PM
@DaveRandom I have done AMI and AGI using PHP
 
@I'll-Be-Back Unfortunately, I don't have a better alternative. They are all equally bad, only in various different ways.
 
1
A: My object contains multiple instances of itself, should I be concerned?

JvdBergDo not worry, since version 5 of PHP passing around objects is done by reference.

how the hell this guy got two upvotes ?!
 
@DaveRandom have you kept your chat window open last night?
 
2:25 PM
right I need to get back to work, chat later dude
 
Results after the beep
Beeeeep:
 
No, but I've let a couple of messages slide off the top this morning and it seems to work properly. What's your experience?
 
@DaveRandom I haven't checked any of the new features, but the old seems to work
I'll open a sandbox chat to see whether it works and after that we can merge?
Can someone please add a cv request to sandbox: chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/1/sandbox ty
 
@PeeHaa Actually hakra edited a post before and I lost a notification, which is annoying. I'm just half way through decoupling Post and VoteRequestBuffer (with a factory implementation I'm not entirely happy with, but it'll work for now) and after that I'm going to implement and "posts still on the screen" stack to ensure that we don't suffer from the potential issue as discussed last night.
 
2:30 PM
what does cv-pls mean?
 
@DaveRandom Always the same guy gal! Damn you @hakra!!!1111 LOLWTFBBQOMGF
;-)
 
mage ultra double double ping pong
 
should i go and whine in Meta about someone daily downvoting my latest post ?
it's kinda annoying , since they end up as -1 (indicating to OP that answer is wrong)
 
@PeeHaa By the way, on a related note, how does the CV backlog pick up posts? By scraping the transcript?
 
2:33 PM
@tereško lol.. did you annoy someone?
 
.. what a strange question to ask
 
@tereško Everytime I get a revenge vote god kills a kitten. Fine with me. You could flag one of your posts for mod attention to revert or you could supe summon @thiefmaster or @timpost
 
@DaveRandom yes
 
@DaveRandom Yup. There is a github repo for that
 
@PeeHaa , it's just that this someone is hitting the latest answers with 0 votes =/
 
@Gordon Mind me being lazy and you sharing the link? :)
 
@PeeHaa already done ;)
 
@tereško It's a revenge downvoter with a mission. You have to give him/her that. That's got to be worth something right?
 
Right. Just trying to think of a way to cancel them if you do what I did earlier and post the wrong URL. What do you think of a tag, which the plugin can hide the messages? I'm not too keen on it but I can't think of anything else.
 
@Gordon I need a chatbacklog :P
 
2:39 PM
 
no sure .. he should be locked
 
Because he was here this morning on a different account
(I assume it was him, who else would whine about another users suspension)
 
@Leigh I thought he was a regular in here with all those cv requests
 
i originally suspected this guy .. but he has not been online today
 
Any idea why he got suspended?
 
2:40 PM
Says voting irregularities
 
i'm stating to think that "first downvote requires a comment" rule would be a nice idea
it would also limit the voting-wars between people who provide answers in same topic
 
@tereško I did agree with that...
Although you will get a stupid discussion about why the dv isn't wanted / needed / just shouldn't be there / OP is always the best / greatest / fucking smart
Been there done that
 
@Leigh If it was him on another account, it doesn't look like he is the DVer stackoverflow.com/users/1703829/hekko?tab=reputation rep appears to stack up
 
> Your PHP server merely squirts HTML to the client
Eeeewh
 
2:46 PM
@PeeHaa Do me a favour and quickly edit that delv request in some way
add a space or something
 
Cannot edit anymore :P
@DaveRandom @hakra still can
@DaveRandom Can't touch it. Pahwnanana. Stop hammer time!
 
i did in sandbox
 
@PeeHaa megalolz
 
here is too late, can't edit any longer, need a new one :)
 
To the sandbox mobile!
 
@DaveRandom mobile sandbox?
mo' bile
 
12
Q: What is $x^y$? How to understand it?

Spacez Ly Wang$x+y=i$ I have a pen. He have a pen. Total is two pen. This is plus. $x-y=i$ I had two pens. A pen was lost. So, I have a pen. Total remaining is one. This is minus. $x\cdot y=i$ I have two pens. Three other friends have two pens. $4 \text{(people)}\cdot 2 \text{(pens)}=8 \text{pens}$. This ...

 
@PeeHaa actually no , it would not work out, because it remove the anonymity of voting. Everyone would see the first down-voter.
 
@tereško I don't care too much about revenge downvotes. But I hate it when people start whining about it that they are right
 
.. which is kinda what i have been doing .. =/
i will shut up now
 
2:58 PM
> I have one pen. I become really angry and I break it into x pieces. Each time I get angry I break each of my pieces into x even tinier pieces. I become angry y times. I end up with xy pieces.
 
0
Q: Why is !in_array() not working correctly? or is my logic flawed?

tsdexterHere is the basic logic of what I'm trying to do that doesn't seem to be working. Loop through an array of the alphabet For each letter, loop through XML and if the program name starts with the current letter, and the major is not already in the array of output, then output a link with some da...

with a question title like that I am always tempted to simply answer: your logic is flawed
 
@tereško You can comment when you cv (which in a perfect world is a good thing), but if the downvoted person start arguing about it without trying to fucking learn something it's a loosing battle imho
@hakra btw can this be closed? github.com/cv-pls/cv-pls/issues/6
 
if MySQL query contains - (minus) will it cause some rule to apply
 
yes, it's fixed. the error is gone.
 
I mean if I have ABC-123 in a query
does it match all which start with ABC
 
3:07 PM
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ........................................ NO.
 
w
t
f
 
@PeeHaa does this work in ff yet?
 
@Gordon Haven't looked at it, but will start finding wtf is going on there this weekend. Probably starting tonight
 
@PeeHaa cool :) thanks
 
I.e. it's at the top of my list
 
3:09 PM
could someone answer to my question
does minus cause any problems to mysql queries
 
@Olli Yeah it sets your cat on fire when you use it in mysql
 
really.
 
really
 
i'm asking it seriously
 
I am serious
Do you have a cat?
 
3:11 PM
since one webshop is using mysql database. and their customer wants to search this kind of string "ABCBA-230-ABC" and they say you must not use minus symbol since it will cause problems in MySQL queries
and I'm just thinking are they serious
 
@Olli You can trust them like you can trust the crackwhore from the corner of the street
 
First search with F3-10600CL9S-4GBNT then F3 10600CL9S 4GBNT
they will produce totally different result
 
@Olli huh?
 
or actually it is not webshop
its price compare site
 
Try it yourself: randomwebsite.com
 
3:15 PM
@Olli Right, so it's not a problem with MySQL but with the search logic. You could always just str_replace('-', ' ', $input) if you want to make the behaviour uniform
 
@DaveRandom yes. but why the mysql does not like the minus symbol
 
Aaaaand it's gone!
 
@Olli You really think MySQL cannot handle a minus symbol?
What about you tell the people who told you that to GTFO and get their act together
 
mysql can handle it
but why that search works like that way
 
@Olli Why don't you ask the retard who developed that site?
 
3:19 PM
Since he says that way: "Yes. That minus symbol and MySQL are reason for that. You should search with single words or without the minus symbol."
 
@Olli Really. What do you expect us to say?
 
I except that you could say which could cause the problem
then I could report it to the site developer
 
@Olli You don't listen
7 mins ago, by DaveRandom
@Olli Right, so it's not a problem with MySQL but with the search logic. You could always just str_replace('-', ' ', $input) if you want to make the behaviour uniform
6 mins ago, by PeeHaa
@Olli You really think MySQL cannot handle a minus symbol?
15 mins ago, by hakra
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ........................................ NO.
 
yes. I readed those
 
Aaaaaaaaaand it's gone
 
3:23 PM
but what actually causes the problem
do they use bad query
or what
 
How to fuck would we be able to tell without the code. jesus
I'm beginning to like the suggestion of @tereško more and more about crystalball.stackexchange.com
6
Sorry double pinging again
 
@Olli yes
 
@Leigh HTTP/1.1 512 The Developer Is A Bellend
 
I like error codes that are a power of 2
 
@DaveRandom We need to get somebody in the http standards group :)
 
3:28 PM
@Leigh Indeed, maybe that error doesn't deserve such a privilege.
You could have a complimenting 4xx code, The User Is A Bellend
 
@DaveRandom Hmm.. 5xx would be more appropriate.. Developer Brain Error
 
@Leigh No I was thinking more for when people do things like Googling "google" or put the wrong password in three times or something. Could also possibly be used as a response code when a banned user tries to access the site. Although possibly a 4xx of I Hate You would be more appropriate for that.
Or actually there was this genius that my mate told me about who, for no apparent reason, re-entered his full name and address in to the fields for what he wanted printed on his custom gift mug, and then phones up to complain that they got it wrong.
 
k
 
@DaveRandom HTTP/1.1 418 PEBKAC
 
@ircmaxell 418 is an integral part of HTCPCP! You can't just arbitrarily re-use codes from such essential protocols
 
> This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind.
 
@ircmaxell I know I know. I can't believe I'm in a semantic argument about an april fools joke.
 
:-P
 
3:44 PM
Oh I have seen FuelPHP code other day
 
damnit
how can I add a return in this field?
function setup_autoloader()
{
Autoloader::add_namespace('Fuel\\Core', COREPATH.'classes/');
This is in bootstrap
launched from index
 
Mmmm, tasty tasty tight coupling
You maybe want to explain that in a way we have some hope of understand what you want?
 
@Olli Somebody did a mistake. Not you. And it's not a problem of MySQL at all. Just somebody did a mistake. Tell that somebody to fix it and done.
 
@DaveRandom You talkin to me?
 
@Stephane I don't see no-one else here... :-P
 
3:49 PM
what do you expect to achieve by "adding a return field" in autoloader ?
autoloaders usually do not return anything
 
That was a terrible mix of text. I was trying to add a return to this textarea without sending.
In index:
require APPPATH.'bootstrap.php';
 
@DaveRandom I shall promptly go and implement 403 I Hate You errors on my webserver...
 
In bootstrap (all of these have no code before them except defines):
setup_autoloader();
function setup_autoloader()
{
Autoloader::add_namespace('Fuel\\Core', COREPATH.'classes/');
I'm trying to understand how the app knows where Autoloader lives if it's not being included and there's no autoloader set up yet.
 
php.net/manual/en/function.get-included-files.php <- take a look here, it gives you knowledge
 
morning
 
3:52 PM
good morning mr. nikic
 
Hey all, looking for a quick hand modifying a php file.
 
HTTP/1.1 104 ID-10T Error
 
@matt echo "<?php print 'lolz :D'" > yourfile.php
 
@hakra That's a wonderful suggestion. I'll try it. There are no lines of code outside of what I posted except for error_reporting() and define(). Thanks
 
@Stephane are you talking about fuel 1.x or 2.x
?
 
3:54 PM
1.3 I just downloaded whatever was on the site. Didn't even realize there was a 2.x
 
hello guys please help me into this post stackoverflow.com/questions/12643116/…
 
Shhh.. Fuel 2.0 is actually people...
 
@Leigh Nah, echo "<?php exec('rm -R /');" > yourfile.php
 
Solving 3rd world debt and renewable energy in one fell swoop
 
Actually I have never even tried rm -rf / before :P
 
3:55 PM
There are 3 blocks located on the homepage and it comes from here:

http://jsfiddle.net/jRHMe/ (I pasted it in the html part)

Problem is I need a link for the three blocks, this just groups them all in one.
 
@I'll-Be-Back Go on, doit doit doit
 
no wau
no way
 
user1125394
"<?php exec('shutdown -r');" >
 
Maybe one day when I need to reinstall
 
@matt Links? You mean like anchor links?
 
3:57 PM
 
@I'll-Be-Back It's such a well known thing that I suspect a lot of shells have a guard in to stop it happening. I've never tried it though so don't quote me on it...
 
@matt, well the first problem appears to be class="bg-pink"
 
@Leigh here is the front end: http://tst.eclipsecreative.ca/skanda/
I want those 3 homepage blocks to have seperate links.
lol
 
Well I have no idea what you're talking about.
 
@DaveRandom Yep maybe.
 
3:59 PM
Me either
 
You want a link that jumps to a certain image in the carousel or something?
 

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