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4:04 PM
anyone know why PHP would fail to capture environment variables on the command line?
($_ENV is empty for me)
 
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Isn't $_ENV only populated in cgi SAPI? Or is that my imagination?
 
Maybe, I wouldn't know for certain.
A bit surprising to me that $_ENV wouldn't be available in CLI mode
 
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@Mythril what use do you have for environment vars in the CLI, anyway?
 
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No, $_ENV isn't CGI only ... I knew it had something to do with it though:
 
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> Other environment variables include the CGI variables, placed there regardless of whether PHP is running as a server module or CGI processor.
 
4:09 PM
another application executes any script I specify, but instead of putting arguments on the command line, it offers them only via environment variables
 
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@Mythril Have you tried getenv()?
 
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And also ensure that the php.ini variables_order directive contains "E"
 
no, the environment variables it creates are not well documented (it's a closed source app), so I was going to var_export them and take a peek
yeah, I'm loading the script with -d variable_order="E"
 
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You could also try manually parsing the return value of phpinfo(), but that sounds terrible:
 
#!/usr/bin/env php -d variables_order=E
 
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4:12 PM
> You can see a list of all the environmental variables by using phpinfo(). Many of these variables are listed within » RFC 3875, specifically section 4.1, "Request Meta-Variables".
 
hmm didn't realize phpinfo would dump env
I think that will do the trick honestly
 
phpinfo(INFO_ENVIRONMENT)
?
 
thanks, did what I needed
 
@webarto That might be history in 5.5 :P
 
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4:18 PM
@webarto I had never realized that phpinfo even took a parameter. I don't think I've ever looked at the manual entry for it before ...
 
@rdlowrey PHP is full of little surprises :D
 
;D
 
Like the optional argument you can pass to array_keys...
 
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@NikiC that one's actually useful
 
@rdlowrey Yeah. But I would have never found it (other than by chance)
Hm, I think it's time to git stash
 
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4:22 PM
I'd say that's a good argument against optional parameters. They often signal that you're doing something that could be split into a separate function and named more descriptively.
 
@NikiC you just changed my life a little bit...
 
@NikiC can you do something about in2.php.net/manual/bg/function.unicode-decode.php :) ?
 
@orourkek :D
@webarto What's the problem with it?
 
@rdlowrey fair enough, but then we'd have to remember even more function names and parameters (in in the case of PHP, parameter order) :]
 
I see
 
4:24 PM
it will be in PHP6 ? I don't know if I'll live that long :) @NikiC
 
ask the russian translation guys ^^
they forgot to remove it
 
bulgarian I think, but similar :P
 
whatever ^^
 
why not move those to 5.5?
 
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@orourkek Well, that's only because PHP makes it a point to have functions for everything. At least if there were a documented function, people wouldn't need to get lucky to discover that the functionality existed. Also, I don't even bother trying to remember specific details. I just regularly hammer the manual and eventually I remember things.
 
4:27 PM
manual is always opened
 
@rdlowrey PHP devs need a second monitor
I don't have one :/
 
@NikiC heresy!
 
And the manual is awesome
One has to say that
 
everyone in my office works on a laptop with no extra screens, I dunno how they do it
 
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@NikiC it's true. I used to run three before one died.: one with a terminal running pywatch on unit-tests, one with text editor and one with browser.
 
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4:30 PM
The manual is awesome.
 
wth facebook isn't verifying my account
 
the manual is what I miss in C++ ^^
 
in manual we trust
 
hey...anyone know how to...i dunno how to phrase it..."preload" a php script, in such a way that you can do something akin to "include" without having to load the file over and over?
or does php do that automatically?
 
autoloading?
 
not quite. i'm looking at doing a partial view type thing, where there's an html fragment (that's actually php) that might get run a hundred times in a foreach loop
the code in the file needs to run each time, likely with different values...but loading the same file a hundred times seems wasteful as hell
 
i think you are talking about templates-within-templates
 
@tereško those words could be used, yeah :)
 
.. and i would guess it is in a context of generating some list or table
 
yeah
 
4:39 PM
I hate you :|
s* s* s*
 
i mean, if there's no way, i could just include the file each time...but it'd be nice if php didn't have to read in and parse the same file over and over when its contents aren't going to change
@webarto ?
 
I had exactly the same issue and forgot to "fix it" :)
 
lol
 
@cHao it almost sounds like lackluster design, is this really the only way to do it?
 
@cHao I guess an opcode cache may help there without you needing to change anything
Also, bye~ Gonna rush home before the next rain shower
 
4:43 PM
@orourkek i suppose i could embed the file's contents in the file that'll be including it...but this fragment is likely to be used by a couple of different views
 
inject array/object, loop it, and inject that into "main" template?
don't have an example right now
 
View !== Template
 
I wonder who f* that up :) Care to explain? :)
 
@rdlowrey Good afternoon, tanned man. (Still morning here, though)
 
am I translating this correctly? is that a random number in place of the comment count?
 
4:49 PM
lol
does kinda look like it, doesn't it.
 
<?=rand(0,20)?> komenatra (loose translation: the comments)
do people still do this?
 
Hi
any SugarCRM expert here ?
 
So it always displays "4 comments"?
 
was it HarryBeasant who did the 'download' counter in js and when you refreshed the page it would step back because it was fake.
 
@NikiC I can't believe the amount of discussion there is on the no brackets for try/catch. It's counter productive, end of story.
 
4:51 PM
@NikiC no it displays a random number "(rN) comments"
 
@LeviMorrison yes
@rlemon you didn't get the joke :P
@LeviMorrison It's really incredible
 
no
been working on smashing out some admin interfaces all day
brain is fryed.
 
@LeviMorrison on the who?
 
hey @cHao, I heard you are one of them C++ guys, is that true?
 
@cHao It's a topic on the PHP internals list.
 
4:53 PM
Admins dont need interfaces... a few sprocs and direct access should suffice.
 
@rlemon admin dont need. manager need
 
always trust an article that starts with:
> I am by no means an expert.
 
Is this bad practice (not talking about returning from a setter): codepad.viper-7.com/ZOeAwp
 
5:00 PM
@Event_Horizon Why don't you just use __set?
 
@LeviMorrison Is magic always the best way to go?
 
yes
 
LOL
 
@Event_Horizon , yes
 
Accio Beer ..... :( damn
 
5:02 PM
@LeviMorrison , because that would do the same, but with additional performance costs
 
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@rlemon I feel like a dork for understanding that reference.
 
lol
 
@Event_Horizon I don't think you should need this generic set and would say it is usually bad practice. If you do use it, I'd recommend using __set. It also allows for nicer syntax.
 
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@LeviMorrison Yo. So I immediately set about using the new Client to write integration tests against the bootstrap functionality. It was painfully apparent that the instantiation process for Url instances was too painful (and by extension, the StdRequest because it takes a Url)
 
5:03 PM
@tereško So a custom setter is better than __set but setters and getters shouldn't be used right?
 
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So I fixed that and now they're much simpler.
 
Any SugarCRM guru ?
 
@Event_Horizon , no
 
@tereško I must have got it mixed up with how you said it then.
 
custom setters should be used , variables should not be public and magic set-everything setters should be avoided
 
5:05 PM
ah, ok
 
/* PHP (Programming [with] Harry Potter) */
$this->db->Alohomora();
$this->db->Deletrius();
// take that tables!
 
@Event_Horizon Setters per variable are good. A generic setter for ALL variables is usually bad.
 
@LeviMorrison why is that?
 
@Event_Horizon Static analysis becomes harder.
 
anyone who was under 16 when the first book came out: I feel it is acceptable that you continued to read each book as they were released. Being all fanboy-ish... that is kinda dorky. reading them... not so much.
 
5:06 PM
@Event_Horizon , they attract complexity
 
@rdlowrey You thought Url was too hard?
 
@rlemon I never made it past halfway through #4 - by that point the books were the size of a minivan
 
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@Event_Horizon And it's more you have to know to use the API. If you have Class::setVar in your API I need to know what all of the available var options are. If you have specific Class::setVar1 and Class::setVar2 it's immediately apparent what they do without any knowledge of the API
 
@rdlowrey I guess that would keep it up to date better than Comments that might never be updated
 
@orourkek , i read first four , but the 3 last ones is finished in audiobook version like a year ago .. i'm lazy
 
5:09 PM
@tereško nothing wrong with audiobooks :}
 
@Event_Horizon And this is why using magic is probably better if you decided to go that route: codepad.viper-7.com/4ukPjb
 
I read half the Dark Tower series in audiobook while working
 
yeah , you can listen to them while walking or playing some repetitive game
@LeviMorrison , i should flag this as "offensive"
 
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@LeviMorrison Well, it wasn't too hard but I felt like the changes simplified usage significantly. You don't have to remember the order of 6 parameters to the constructor. For example ...
 
5:10 PM
@tereško Feel free.
 
@LeviMorrison how does that detract the ambiguity/unknown vars?
 
@tereško Yeah, dunno if you read the Dark Tower series but I think Song of Sussanah was the boring one.
 
@rdlowrey , if you have 6 parameters in constructor , there is a deeper issue
 
@tereško Uri's have 6+ parts. Fact of existence.
 
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@tereško I generally agree, but it was for a generic fact of the value object
 
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5:11 PM
Url($host, $path, $port, ...
 
@Event_Horizon , well .. the current one for me is Milton's "Paradise Lost"
@rdlowrey , constructor should have only mandatory parameters
 
@tereško Wrong if you use immutable objects.
 
@LeviMorrison , i would say that value objects are an antipattern
 
Or rather, all parameters become mandatory if you use immutable objects.
 
@tereško Current book, or boring book?
 
5:13 PM
@Event_Horizon , what did you mean by that ?
i meant "the one i am currently listening to"
 
@tereško gotcha
 
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@LeviMorrison In any case, I made the Url mutable to do it. I gave it some thought and I didn't really see any drawbacks to doing so. The implementation I have may not even need the setter methods for mutability.
 
I haven't seen it used much by anyone but when should I use declare(encoding='UTF-8');?
 
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Just take a look at it when you get a chance and let me know if it causes you anxiety
 
@rdlowrey , i actually thing that Url in constructor might have only one parameter : full URI string
 
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5:17 PM
@tereško That's what I changed it to, actually.
 
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And the object now parses the component parts from the passed string instead of asking for them individually
 
I read them all.... and I admit to seeing all of the films (didn't pay to see one) - the films were bad... not as bad as eragon but bad
 
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And it's a heck of a lot easier to use new Url('http://www.google.com') than new Url('http', ...)
 
Is there anyone interested in updating a current website written in html/css with php? Respond and I will expand on what I need.
 
5:21 PM
@orourkek cool
 
@Event_Horizon that distracted me from work for more than a few minutes
 
@user1535882 We are still serving the 1535881 users in front of you
 
@user1535882 $100/h, ok?
 
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@LeviMorrison I think I'm actually going to opt for Url immutability and remove the setters
 
gah people in java script are snappy about jquery
 
5:24 PM
100$/h, which company are you working for then with those prices? Facebook?
 
can not risk an RTFM in there
 
Haha! Anyone serious that is interesteD?
 
100$ an hour?
 
thats standard
in bigger companies if u are freelancer
 
I guess but still holly shit
I need to get some bigger contracts
 
5:26 PM
but as a freelancer you live a little bit risky
 
100$/hr was standard at the company I worked for >5 years ago. They've since increased to 125 and 150.. and they're just a small service shop
 
bigger contracts won't raise the perception of your time's worth :/
 
'little bit risky, ' sings the chior
I don't give a crap what people perceive it as worth, if they give me 100$ an hour they can think im a gay jewish gypsie living in a pie hut
 
:D yeah sadly thats the right attitude
 
5:29 PM
@ert3 You should care, because if people don't think you're worth $100/hr, they won't pay you $100/hr...
 
@ert3 Well I for one, think you're a gay jewish gypsie living in a pie hut.
 
@orourkek this is actually something i haven't considered, how does one make ones time seem more valuable?
 
@ert3 with a better portfolio :]
 
@ert3 Show you are worth it by developing things worth a shit. :P
 
@orourkek isn't that subjective as all hell
 
5:30 PM
@ert3 perception is, yeah
 
better portfolio, strong apperance, good communication skills
 
@ert3 but if you don't work at making your time actually worth $100/hr, no one will ever pay you that (unless they're an idiot)
 
i think Event has the better answer, even though thats still in the eye of the beholder. though thats why my flagship personal site is going to host some gaming setups for D20 forum play, the idea being i'd have a proving ground for my skill as a game programer
 
@rdlowrey There's not really any reason to change a Url after creation, anyway.
If you change it, it's a different resource by definition. . .
 
@Levi say this to the seo team
 
5:33 PM
@orourkek last person i worked for defended tables for layout until the end and swated my hand every time i wanted to use some inline CSS to beta a css rule before making it so i guess that explains why my pay sucked
 
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@LeviMorrison yup. I think it was laziness originally because it means I have to modify the SuperglobalUrlDetector slightly to remove the setters from Url
 
@jami It's actually the technical team's fault that the SEO people need to ask for 'pretty urls'.
Probably had terrible architecture.
@rdlowrey So you actually used the client?
or just tried to?
 
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I have the code in place to do so, but I haven't run it. After I fix the SuperglobalUrlDetector and Url tests for the switch back to immutability I will.
 
@ert3 I was just given another project (site) to work on, and it has tables on nearly every page. (and was developed THIS YEAR)
 
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So in a couple of minutes I can tell you if it works as expected for basic use cases
 
5:36 PM
@webarto yeah but right now we are discussing in a forum, so maybe we can negotiate the rates a tad?
 
Ha I was going to ask a question here, stopped myself, searched, found a SO answer, and the best answer (which I upvoted as it was way more helpful than others) was @NikiC
 
it was a touching letter though
 
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@Event_Horizon It's amazing how often that happens for me. I constantly come across really good answers from chat regulars.
 
Send me a message if anyone is interested in updating a website written in html/css with PHP.
 
@rdlowrey PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function gzdecode() in /var/www/Artax/test/src/Artax/Encoding/GzipCodecTest.php on line 16
 
5:41 PM
@user1535882 you should explain what you need ;)
 
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@LeviMorrison hmm ...
 
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> You have to use a zlib version >= 1.0.9 with this module.
 
is zlib enabled by default?
 
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I've never had a problem with the gz functions being available before ...
 
@rdlowrey Well when you are around people that know what they are talking about it tends to rub off on you if you aren't too daft.
 
5:43 PM
@NikiC dunno about "one of them c++ guys"...lol...i'm at work right now doing PHP stuff. :) but i hang out in the c++ room too
 
@rdlowrey case and point :]
 
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@LeviMorrison That's an extension that you really can't do without if you want content negotiation. gzip is the most popular Content-Encoding format for sending compressed messages back and forth.
 
@rdlowrey I'm just saying it should probably fail in some way the tests keep running.
 
@orourkek , because chat-regulars are willing to invest time in making extensive answers
 
5:45 PM
very true
 
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@LeviMorrison oh yeah, I'll see what I can do to have it mark the tests as skipped and keep going.
 
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@LeviMorrison In the meantime, you can run tests individually by calling phpunit --bootstrap test/phpunitBootstrap.php test/src/Artax/UrlTest
 
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or replace the "test/src/Artax/UrlTest" argument with an entire directory like "test/src/Artax/Http"
 
Despite the nay-sayers, using CI has given me a lot of insight into how not to write code, just by stumbling into random blocks of "wtf" code
 
who could say nay to this point
 
5:56 PM
@rdlowrey PHP Fatal error: Can't inherit abstract function Artax\Negotiation\Negotiators\HeaderNegotiator::negotiate() (previously declared abstract in Artax\Negotiation\Negotiators\BaseNegotiator) in /var/www/Artax/src/Artax/Negotiation/Negotiators/BaseNegotiator.php on line 25
 
well everyone always says "stay away from CI", but I've learned more by using it than I would have otherwise
 
I got that when I supposedly ran just ClientTest.php
 
yeah, stay away form CI :P
 
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@LeviMorrison I just uploaded a fix so that encoding tests are skipped if the extension isn't loaded.
 
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@LeviMorrison Can you post the code for the ClientTest somewhere so I can get some context on that problem?
 
5:59 PM
@rdlowrey I just pushed what I had.
 
@webarto , and with CI you meant "CodeIgniter" not "Continuous Integration"
 
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Okay, thanks.
 
@tereško oh i thought contiuous integration
 
I still fail to run the tests, btw.
PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function gzdecode() in /var/www/Artax/test/src/Artax/Encoding/GzipCodecTest.php on line 18
 
ok I know ive asked this before but, im trying to make a form login send http auth variables
 
6:02 PM
@ert3 You'll probably have to use JavaScript to do that.
 
basic idea,
login form
if login works then redirect to http auth directory
hmm
 
@LeviMorrison php -m | grep zlib does return zlib on you system?
 
@tereško
 
i dunno i got my hand slapped the last time i went in there
 
@jami Oh, I definitely DON'T have it installed. The test suite should still run despite the error. That's what I'm saying.
 
6:04 PM
ah ok
 
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@LeviMorrison Okay, I think I know what's causing that. PHPUnit still includes the encoding files to determine code coverage information even though the tests are skipped because you don't have the extension. I can fix that.
 
zzzzzzzzzzzz
 
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@LeviMorrison Can you add the following line to line 42 41 of the test/phpunit.xml file and tell me if that fixes the gzdecode errors?
 
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<directory>../src/Artax/Encoding</directory>
 
is it just me or is this guy really only calling the sendEmail function once yet expecting it to send 2 emails? It is a conditional email so only on or the other conditional statement will be met for the email: If or else= 1 email sent only
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Q: php sending double email

bc rustyI realize that this is similar to this question, however, I only get a double email when sending to myself. I have sent emails to others with the same script, and they get a single email. This is the email script: <?php function sendEmail( $recipient, $sub, $msg ) { $to = $recipi...

 
6:09 PM
can someone explain 42 phenomenon to me :)
 
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@webarto It's from the book, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
 
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Required reading for nerds everywhere.
 
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42 is the answer to life, the universe and everything.
 
42 (forty-two) is the natural number immediately following 41 and directly preceding 43. The number has received considerable attention in popular culture as a result of its central appearance in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy as the "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything". Mathematics * Given 27 same-size cubes whose nominal values progress from 1 to 27, a 3×3×3 magic cube can be constructed such that every row, column, and corridor, and every diagonal passing through the center, is composed of 3 cubes whose sum of values is 42. * Forty-two i...
 
@rdlowrey Didn't seem to do anything.
 
6:11 PM
@rdlowrey HHGTTG :) @MikeB thanks :) I would felt kind of idiotic to type "what does 42 means" in google :)
 
@webarto <3 read the books the story is just awesome
 
It's not the answer to life, the universe and everything. It's the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything. That slight difference is an important plot point, btw.
 
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@LeviMorrison Okay, I'm going to have to dig a little deeper into that one then. Also, your client test doesn't produce any errors when I run it with the main command using the phpunit.xml file. I have a suspicion that it might somehow be resulting from the gzdecode errors. I'm working on both, though.
 
I'm retard, thanks guys :)
 
6:13 PM
There we go on my edits :-P
 
@webarto Or watch the 3 BBC hhgttg films
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Please excuse my bastardization. My apologies and many thanks for the correction :)
 
@rdlowrey You're excused. It's just one of my pet peeves.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Tell google that :-P
 
Yeah, I know. It annoys me to no end. Google didn't read the books, it seems.
 
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6:20 PM
@LeviMorrison This should be fixed by my most recent commit/push. Apparently in your installed PHP version you can't declare an abstract function of the same name as an implicitly abstract function from an implemented interface. I've removed the offending declaration.
 
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@LeviMorrison Your machine is the first 5.3 install to run the newly merged Atreyu tests so while I've done my best to write 5.3 compliant code there may be a couple of issues here or there like that.
 
is the name from neverending story or the metal band
 
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@jami neverending story. And we actually nixed Atreyu in favor of the original Artax
 
@rdlowrey thats a nice name
 
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@jami thanks :)
 
6:29 PM
@rdlowrey That Artax scene
 
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@Event_Horizon so sad.
 
i come only to names like project_a38. they are more like prototype names
 
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that scene is pretty heavy for little kids
 
@rdlowrey no joke
 
i loved the film in my childhood
 
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6:30 PM
Same. The second one sucked, though.
 
there is a second one?
 
more JS console fun
var _0xe925=["\x72","\x6C","\x65","\x6D","\x6F","\x6E","\x2E","\x63","\x61","\x74","\x69","","\x6A\x6F\x69\x6E","\x68\x74\x74\x70","\x3A\x2F\x2F"];var l=[_0xe925[0],_0xe925[1],_0xe925[2],_0xe925[3],_0xe925[4],_0xe925[5],_0xe925[6],_0xe925[7],_0xe925[4],_0xe925[3]],j=window,k=[_0xe925[1],_0xe925[4],_0xe925[7],_0xe925[8],_0xe925[9],_0xe925[10],_0xe925[4],_0xe925[5]];j[k[_0xe925[12]](_0xe925[11])]=_0xe925[13]+_0xe925[14]+l[_0xe925[12]](_0xe925[11]);;
Todays adventures are in obfuscation
 
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lol
 
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littlefoot ... land before time
 
6:32 PM
good movie
 
at least the first one was...
 
@webarto ok you are not supposed to ruin it sigh
@webarto lol I am not that mean.
 
:P
 
@Event_Horizon saved
I just signed up for the amazon cloudfront service.
imgur does not want to give me unlimited access even when I offer to pay
 
they just say "go pro" which still only allows 400 images/hour
 
so now i'm redesigning the site and looking for a new name
lememe.com is taken :<
mememe.com is not ;)
 
derpmeme
 
meme.rs
 
6:37 PM
I was a little off, what is the mememe.com topic?
 
evening
 
@PeeHaa evening
 
theres gonna be a Kane & Lynch movie next year?
 
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@LeviMorrison Okay, I've pushed again to hopefully fix your zlib problems. I've tested it on my system with php.ini's disable_functions = gzdecode and it skips the offending tests just fine. Please try each of these commands after pulling down the changes and lemme know if either resolves the issue. phpunit -c test/phpunit.xml and phpunit --bootstrap test/phpunitBootstrap.php
 
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If that doesn't fix it you may just have to compile your php --with-zlib[=DIR]
 
6:44 PM
@rlemon Have you added fry?
 
@rdlowrey Worked.
New error, though
 
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lol
 
PHP Fatal error: Cannot access private property Artax\Negotiation\Negotiators\ContentTypeNegotiator::$mimeTypeFactory in /var/www/Artax/src/Artax/Negotiation/Negotiators/ContentTypeNegotiator.php on line 88
 
@PeeHaa fry was there a long time ago
 
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workingonit
 
6:44 PM
@rlemon huh. wtf. In that case I'm getting blind
 
@PeeHaa its called Not Sure If
@rlemon lol
 
@rlemon ;) yup I'm getting blind
 
new version will show a thumbnail with every meme in the list.
 
@rlemon sweet deal
 
6:45 PM
@rlemon I wanted to ask for that feature
 
well right now i'm tied up with work :P I told the boss he is bat crap crazy to think we need to hire a 'firm' to make our website
 
Didn't dare, because I though I had overlooked it ;)
 
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@LeviMorrison this looks like another low 5.3 compatibility I need to address ... You people and your old PHPs. I'm going to have to add a 5.3 install to my system :)
 
Now first things first. Let's fix the FF plugin
 
@rlemon You know when I read your name I always read it "our lemon"
 
6:47 PM
@rdlowrey It's latest Debian. Not that uncommon.
I certainly WISH I had better.
 
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I'm just kidding :)
 
lol - yea - most people think it's something witty or funny... nope... rlemon === r. lemon === robert lemon
 
only the coolest cats use real names 8-)
 
@orourkek Agreed.
 
many people have not believed me when I say my last name is lemon
 
6:49 PM
Mine's not veiled at all.
 
really it is not an uncommon last name
 
@rlemon I had a Lemon in grade school even.
 
@rlemon Sure it's not..... in lemon country ;)
 
I'm from a REALLY small town.
 
@LeviMorrison i've been using rlemon since before the days when we could use spaces in usernames / screennames
 
6:50 PM
[Agent Smith has shot Robert with several bullets]
Agent Smith: Check him.
[Agent Brown feels Robert's pulse]
Agent Brown: He's gone.
Agent Smith: Good bye, Mr Lemon.
 
@rlemon same for me, orourkek has never been taken
 
well... consider.... when (pre facebook) I first decided to google my own name I found three other robert lemons... my grand dad, a baseball player, and some guy from montreal. - then facebook... now i get 18 pages of African american men from the south.
 
some actor with my name usually conquers the google results :]
 
ohh yea nooow. there appears to be a lot
 
user895378
Does the following not work in all 5.3 versions?
 
user895378
6:54 PM
$self = $this;
$f = function($something) use ($self) { $self->do($something); };
$f('...');
 
This guy: http://www.robertlemon.ca/profile.html

Makes me think of Bjurman from TGWTDT
 
so i have this new theme for my site which i am finally going to list and start premoting, and it runs really slow, I figured well i better start optimizing this, so i close a few tabs and bam it loads up like a champ. I'm thinking should i optimize with that large amount of tabs oppen assuming lower preformance on the average computer? but considering the competition's websites load at the same speed in both senarios maybe im safe being a bit slow
 
@rdlowrey I believe you can't do that because of the function scope.
I think @ircmaxell posted something about this somewhere.
Maybe it was on PHP's mailing list.
 

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