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11:00 PM
@Zoidberg'-- The part @ 5:52 OMG eargasm!
 
Ell
only went near java a few weeks ago and I think if I'd caught something I would have felt the effects earlier
 
@Ell Currently very lightweight. Years ago, before my oldest son was born, or I was married...well, that was a little different story.
 
@Borgleader People are suggesting it in the comments.
 
user142019
@FredOverflow :^)
 
What comments o.o
 
11:00 PM
If you're editable, seek constelling
(I know, it's terrible, I'll show myself out)
 
Ell
@jerrycoffin so would that be for example one shot of vodka? I don't really know the scale of average because everyone at my age drinks to get drunk anyway :L
 
9 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
> Here’s a handy tip to find out whether I will write for you for free: Are you me? If the answer is “no,” then fuck you, pay me. — John Scalzi
 
Ell
no change in diet. although a sip of absinthe when I woke up, just to try it :L
 
Ehehe
 
@CatPlusPlus Oh gawd. Took me minutes to get it.
 
11:02 PM
@Ell The legal or illegal version? :)
 
I should go to sleep, but this headache is terrible.
 
Ell
@fred it was from Tesco, so legal, only 55%
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Weakling
 
Ell
polish hand made though, ill say
 
@CatPlusPlus You have no right to say that after that joke.
 
11:03 PM
:v
 
@Ell Anymore, I'm starting to feel a bit fuzzy after one or at most two glasses of wine. Years ago I drank enough, often enough, that I could pass a field sobriety test (walk line, balance on one foot, recite alphabet backwards, etc.) after a dozen drinks.
 
@Zoidberg'-- nice music
 
user142019
@FredOverflow not disagreeing is what I do.
 
Agreeing?
 
Unless !!x == x does not hold, then yes :)
 
11:09 PM
@JerryCoffin There it is again. That weird anymore = nowadays
 
user142019
@FredOverflow like !!5 != 5?
 
Don't do that, it's crazy
 
@Zoidberg'-- You just want to watch the world burn... dont you?
 
Maybe I should have specified x to be bool :)
 
user142019
!5 should be a type error.
 
11:11 PM
5 should not be a type error. And it isn't :)
 
@CatPlusPlus I'll try to keep your sensitivities in mind the next time I'm tempted to do that.
 
user142019
And true != 5 should also be a type error.
 
"answer".equals(42) should be a type error, but Java just evaluates it as false :(
 
Ell
@jerry I don't know how you can drink wine in the first place, I find it distasteful :L
 
user142019
@FredOverflow what a piece of junk.
 
user142019
11:12 PM
In PHP it’s also false. :D
 
user142019
Or maybe not. You never know.
 
@FredOverflow Fuck you because Java that's why ;)
 
user142019
And it can differ between versions.
 
@Ell There's no accounting for taste (nor the lack of it necessary to drink beer).
 
user142019
php > "answer" == 42
php >
 
user142019
11:13 PM
Yes, very handy, stupid PHP REPL.
 
Ell
what's that joke about programmers and choosing? what did the programmer say when someone asked him "do you want to go to pizza hut or dominoes?"
yes.
beer is meh, bitter is so so. if I know what I'm talking about that is :P
 
user142019
I prefer Fanta Cassis and Spa and Fruit.
 
user142019
 
Ell
argh my phone keeps restarting and turning off apparently randomly
 
@Ell It's a demon. Find a priest.
 
user142019
11:21 PM
It could indeed be a daemon.
 
I could try to exorcise it and it might work. But it's really better to get a proper priest to look at it.
(FYI: I'm joking.)
 
user142019
 
Bart de Wever keeps getting thinner and thinner.
@Zoidberg'-- I like to play it on the safe side.
 
user142019
We know you’re not an idiot. No need to clarify that. :^)
 
Ell
who's bart de wever?
 
user142019
11:29 PM
A Belgian politician.
 
He is a big personality in Belgium
 
user142019
From the greatest place on earth: Flanders.
 
user142019
Bart Albert Liliane De Wever (Mortsel, 21 december 1970) is een Belgisch Vlaams-nationalistisch politicus. Hij is sinds 2004 partijvoorzitter van de Nieuw-Vlaamse Alliantie. Biografie Bart De Wever is historicus van opleiding (licentiaat K.U.Leuven en UFSIA, aggregaat K.U.Leuven). Bart De Wever stamt uit een Vlaams-nationalistische familie. Zijn 11 jaar oudere broer, Bruno De Wever, is eveneens historicus en doceert aan de Universiteit Gent. Als middelbaar scholier liep Bart De Wever school in het Onze-Lieve-Vrouw-van-Lourdescollege in Edegem en was lid van het Vlaams Nationaal Jeugd...
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked do they write “de” between the first and last name with a capital letter in Belgium?!
 
Bart Albert Liliane De Wever (; born in Mortsel, 21 December 1970) is a Flemish politician and since 2004 has been the president of the New Flemish Alliance (N-VA), a Flemish party that strives for an independent Flanders in a united Europe. He has also been a member of the Flemish parliament since 2004. He played a prominent role in the 2007 Belgian government formation and led his party to victory in the 2010 Belgian federal elections. This made the N-VA the largest party in both Flanders and the whole of Belgium, although they did not end up in the government that was formed a world-r...
 
11:30 PM
Hi
 
user142019
Hi
 
@Zoidberg'-- Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked wat
 
user142019
In Dutch they always do that with a small letter. :P
 
If it is written with a non-capital 'd', then you are considered to be "adel".
 
user142019
11:31 PM
Ah.
 
user142019
Like horses which have a hoofd instead of a kop.
 
Yeah, it's somewhat like that.
 
Ell
horses have hooves
there's no such thing as a kop, silly.
 
user142019
Learn Dutch, silly.
 
I'm sorry for interrupting your conversation, but I have a very quick question (like a yes or no question): when creating a class you are suggested to define properties private and make them accessible as you want with getter and setter methods. Bue when you have a getValue() method and a setValue() which can actually do anything (setting any value with the set value is accepted) wouldn't it be better to just let the property public?
 
user142019
11:33 PM
If you don’t speak Dutch, you don’t speak much.
 
user142019
@Jeffrey don’t.
 
I like Bart de Wever because he is clear minded (or at least appears to be so). He can defend his position without resorting to defensive tactics. He's straightforward and rational. (Or at least that how he appears to me.)
 
user142019
If you have a player class, add decreaseScore and increaseScore and score methods, for example.
 
user142019
And for a simple point struct (like struct { double x, y; }), make everything public.
 
@Zoidberg'--, it's not the case we are talking about. There you have to check whatever the score is > 0 for example...
 
user142019
11:34 PM
getX and setX are extremely silly and ugly.
 
user142019
@Jeffrey player.score() > 0
 
Despite that, I don't even support his policies. I tend to the left-liberal.
 
user142019
std::vector doesn’t have setData and getData either. It has push_back, pop_back, erase (and more) and data.
 
Ell
@zoidberg why not let score be public if you can modify it?
 
@Jeffrey Yes, if your getters and setters do nothing, they shouldn't exist
 
11:36 PM
@Ell OMG Blasphemy. I kill you!
 
Plus all the usual fluff about quasi-classes, passive data and lazy design
 
user142019
@Ell because example. I couldn’t think of anything better. xD
 
@Jeffrey It would generally be better to design the class to be useful. But yes, on the rare occasion that public data actually makes sense, make the data public.
 
Ell
@zoid fair enough :)
 
@Zoidberg'--, no I mean something like this: Player::decreaseScore(int a) { score = (score-a > 0) score-a : score; }.
 
user142019
11:37 PM
Oh.
 
user142019
Well that’s fine I think.
 
user142019
But oh God not setScore that’s so ugly.
 
Ah, the most trivial design aspect, whether to make it private or not, is still a big catalyst of discussion.
 
user142019
Python solves all the things! Everything is public!
 
Transparency is good!
 
Ell
11:37 PM
ahh clamping that's what I was thinking if earlier
 
@Jeffrey Usually, you should tell it about the event that happened, and it should react to that by reducing its own score.
@Ell ...and if you need a saturating counter, you should do that in a separate class that just creates a saturating value.
 
Dammit he lost quite some weight.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Yeah, but if you have something like class Something { private: int a; public: void setA(int x) { a = x; } int getA() { return a; } }; why wouldn't you on hearth just do struct { int a; } ?
 
user142019
In that case make it public.
 
Ok, thank you guys
 
11:40 PM
Nothing beats a cheese sandwich.
 
user142019
A filet americain sandwich does.
 
user142019
RAW MEAT <3
 
Ell
@jerry you mean like a clampedvalue class? which clamps on assign?
salmonella <3
 
user142019
@Ell not chicken meat, you fool.
 
Chicken, meet fool
 
user142019
11:42 PM
 
user142019
ME GUSTA RAW MEAT
 
Ell
ew.
why do you gustar raw meat?
 
user142019
Because it is very tasty.
 
Ell
why not just cook it and rid it of disease first
and make it taste yummy in the mean time
 
user142019
wat
 
user142019
11:44 PM
disease?
 
user142019
It’s cow meat, you fool.
 
user142019
I’m not going to eat raw chicken or whatever.
 
^ Who is this again?
 
Ell
cow meat still carries diseases
 
user142019
@Ell also, I live in the Netherlands, not India or China or whatever.
 
Ell
11:45 PM
I'm pretty sure. or parasites, or at least harmful stuff unless you cook it
 
@Ell Indeed it does.
 
user142019
(Not that you can eat cow meat in India without getting killed.)
 
raw beef might no longer give you mad cow disease, but it's still a good deal less safe than cooked beef
 
Ell
I'm confused as to why you living in the netherlands is relevant, genuinely?
 
user142019
@Ell Because in The Netherlands they are more hygienic and they have very strict laws regarding these things.
 
11:45 PM
@Zoidberg'-- At least it's not UB.
 
Ok enough with meat, let's talk about drinks... what's your favorite one?
 
Ell
oh right
 
@Ell Developing countries give their cows unsafe water to drink, so they have more disease.
 
@Jeffrey 1. Water, 2. Beer, 3. Green tea
 
it's not just the people who suffer from more infectious diseases and parasites in developing nations
 
11:46 PM
@StackedCrooked, quite usual
 
@Jeffrey Is it?
 
@StackedCrooked The first two at least, the third depends on which country you live in...
 
I just at my borders of cheese with plastic and all.
 
Ell
@deadmg so you remember the Spanish cucumber e coli outbreak. or some outbreak. turned out not to be cucumbers after all but the spaniads had to dump tonnes of them away anyway :/
 
eh
the West wastes a shitton of foods every year
 
Ell
11:47 PM
Nevermind :L
 
a few tonnes of cucumber is nothing
 
@StackedCrooked For me the third one is wine for example...
 
Ell
my favorite drink is... squash, generic flavour
 
definitely alcoholic ginger beer
 
Ell
well it was more than a few tonnes I think
 
user142019
11:48 PM
And you know, getting sick from filet americain is worth its taste.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Depends on the sickness
 
user142019
:P
 
user142019
I’m very rarely sick.
 
@Ell, what is it? Juice?
 
Just out of curiosity, do you guys know this song?
 
user142019
11:49 PM
The last time was two years ago, when I had laryngitis.
 
Ell
nor am I, but I'm a germophobe
in a lot of cases
 
@StackedCrooked No.
 
@StackedCrooked no
 
Ell
@jeffrey yeah. I don't really have a favourite tbh
 
Sarcasm? Or seriously?
 
11:50 PM
seriously
in fact, I don't know any songs by Celine Dion
 
Ell
alcohol wise, fruity kopparberg tastes nice, vodka tasked of nothing, cider is nice, lager and bitter is not nice, absinthe is nice, martinis are nice
 
When I was 14 year old this song was a huge hit. That's why for me it's like a song that's obviously know by everyone. (That was 1994.)
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked never heard that song, and my mother is a huge fan.
 
user142019
And no, not that kind of fan.
 
11:52 PM
@DeadMG But you've heard of her name?
 
@Ell, what about Tequila?
 
Ell
@jeffrey haven't tried that in a long time. actually, I like La mumba (is that what its called?) and piña collada
 
This song was a hit when I was 14. It's the age that some of my friends had their first kiss or dance. (Not me though, I was a nerd lol.)
 
@StackedCrooked Only very vague Interwebs reference.
for example, "Celion Dion's My Heart Will Go On 10000 times in a row" as torture
 
Ell
Celine Dion is famous, no?
she did the titanic song?
 
11:54 PM
@DeadMG That's torture agreed.
However Pour que tu m'aimes encore is tolerabole. (Although this live version is grating.)
 
@Ell, I'm not talking about those ***** cocktails. I'm talking about tequila salt-lemon or tequila boom-boom (is that how it's called there?)...
 
@Ell Reasonably, though a lot less than, say, 10 years ago (if I'm not mistaken, now mostly sings in Las Vegas).
 
Ell
tequilla suicide? snort the salt, drink the lemon, shot through the eye?
 
@JerryCoffin She's big money.
 
Ell
arghh my forearm is so itchy!
 
11:57 PM
@Ell Amputation should fix that.
 
@Ell, yeah I've seen that too... actually it's snort the salt, drink the shot, lemon throught the eye
 
Implementing matrix inverse please shoot me
 
@StackedCrooked Apparently. Las Vegas is full of "artists" who care more about money than art.
 
Matrix inverse? Just ask your evil twin.
 
user142019
 
Ell
11:58 PM
not always, it could make it a lot lot worse :L
 
@Ell youtube.com/watch?v=imrXEXzdj8s that's the boom boom
 
@CatPlusPlus I'd love to. Should avoid inverting matrices at nearly any cost. Any chance you can use Gaussian elimination or something similar?
 
@JerryCoffin Ideology can be countered with money. It's very a convenient knowledge.
 
It's 3x3, so I'm just copying the equation into the code
It's for transforming a 2D image. I don't really care whether this is fast or not
 
@CatPlusPlus lol you can't do something so easy?
 
11:59 PM
It has to work exactly once
 

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