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user142019
12:00 AM
@MooingDuck awesome.
 
@Zoidberg'-- because you don't use concentrate, splines=ortho or pad=2 :)
 
user142019
I cannot set those options. :)
 
@Zoidberg'-- lemme guess? OmniGrapple?
 
user142019
yah xD
 
user142019
Still working on my mind map.
 
12:01 AM
you fail
 
user142019
I know.
 
user142019
I have 55 nodes so it’s becoming a bit of a mess.
 
^ was my work of the week. In order to estimate ~500 hours of dev time (all inclusive)
 
user142019
Cool.
 
yeah. Graphviz is cool. The existing code... not so much :)
 
12:04 AM
@sehe Hmmm....seems like it's grown since I saw it last...
 
user142019
This is what I’ve been doing today. It’s a mess, and I’ll probably never implement all of it. dl.dropbox.com/u/92981617/mindmap.svg
 
@JerryCoffin Yup. It's done now. I've submitted the estimates, complete with test effort, deployment and migration plan. And with proposed work division :)
@Zoidberg'-- Oh, and sorry for not posting the SVG. I prefer the content to be non-indexable. Or, well, hard to find :)
 
@sehe you seem to have horribly misspelled every word, I can't even read it
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user142019
@sehe it wouldn’t surprise me if Google did OCR.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Me neither
 
user142019
12:06 AM
@MooingDuck it’s Dutch, you merkin.
 
@MooingDuck lol
 
user142019
Anyway, what kind of diagram is it?
 
@sehe I see the word Execute! It must be devilry!
 
@Zoidberg'-- I'm calculating your school's government funding :)
 
user142019
Sequence diagram?
 
user142019
12:07 AM
@sehe nice :P
 
@sehe Proposed work division: You supervise. He codes. I advise, mentor, proselytize, and everything else that lets me take credit if it succeeds, but blame others if it fails. :-)
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@Zoidberg'-- Sort of. It's just imperatively programmed in Oracle PL/SQL. What you see is the call graph/dependency graph
 
user142019
Ah okay.
 
@JerryCoffin Naw. I want this one :) The core 271 hours of C# work are mine. My preciousssthth!
@Zoidberg'-- It'll get some mild OO treatment for the two spots that aren't trivial. And we'll cut half of the database schema (FH1070,FH1090,FH1100 are essentially identical and use contrived ERD modelling at this time)
 
@sehe The existing code is in PL/SQL, but you're planning to rewrite in C#? My proposal was based on the assumption that this was about writing PL/SQL.
 
12:10 AM
@JerryCoffin Oh. I see. Sound reasoning there :)
 
@JerryCoffin PL/SQL? Oh dear.
 
I've had the honour of rewriting the core business logic from PL/SQL to C# over the last few iterations. That was quite a success:
Mar 13 at 10:07, by sehe
@RMartinhoFernandes by the way, the code went down from 27k LOC in a single Oracle package (requiring external packages) to about 2.5k LoC in 31 classes.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Exactly! :-)
 
user142019
27,000 lines to 2,500 lines is impressive.
 
@sehe Out of curiosity, (roughly) what percentage of that uses LINQ?
 
12:16 AM
It's been well received, so the next followup is making existing Oracle-implemented services go to C# as a utility library (instead of a service-bus component). So we can expect respectable performance gains.
Although, the business have been joking they might not need more performance since our last gig :0
@JerryCoffin Erm. Not too many. It was kind of heavy on the business logic. But the conversion from datamodel to domain model classes was heavy on linq. I provided my own tree traversal iterators. That was pretty nice.
 
@sehe Interesting. Thanks.
 
user142019
Hurray I found somebody who wants to help with Hexapoda. :P
 
@Zoidberg'-- You talking to your other personality again?
 
@sehe We resent you implying that we might have MPD.
 
lol. Our queen speaks like that
 
12:19 AM
The voices are screaming.
The boss. ..she's angry.. Aargg!
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked You work at 1:22 AM?
 
@Zoidberg'-- That too. A bit. I'm preparing the design for the data migration thingy. I'll be having to juggle about 16*~20 xsd's and creating mapping from ordinals to Xsd elements, translating to expression trees compilable into C#. This is sort of the crucial bit there
@Zoidberg'-- Oh and the boss is obviously just his alter ego
 
> ‎If God didn't intend for us to masturbate, he would have made our arms shorter.
 
user142019
XSDs? Must be a pain.
 
@Zoidberg'-- It looks like less of a problem than I anticipated:
Okay: here comes: XmlSchemaSet to the rescue ideone.com/Jwxr2a
@EtiennedeMartel Isn't that why he's making our bellies fatter?
 
12:32 AM
@sehe That's probably because of beer.
 
user1182183
I have something that brainfucks me, I have two structures, and I want to make a std::list <structure1> x; so I can do x(structure1).something but I want it to have variables from structure2 (int a, int b), like x(structure1).a , how can I do that? I don't know if I formulated it clearly cuz I'm getting headache O_o
 
user142019
wat
 
@GamErix Let me reassure you: you formulated it so badly, we're getting headaches
 
user1182183
structure1;
structure2;

script_load(structure1)
{list.push_back(structure1);}
 
user1182183
now I could do list.remove(structure1) right?
 
12:34 AM
@GamErix Forget it. Just to std::map<struct1_type, struct2_type> map;
 
user1182183
and I can acces by struct1 and assign values to struct2?
 
@GamErix Pretty much. It's called a map, dictionary, associative container or (popuplarly, but not very accurately) a hash table. You may want to read up and try something simple first
 
user1182183
okay, thanks :$
 
user1182183
 
@GamErix pointers make dangerous keys
 
user1182183
 
@GamErix well, you haven't done anything wrong, but you haven't done much
@GamErix think of std::map<AMX *,Callbacks>::iterator as a std::pair<const AMX*, CallBacks>*
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck how do I extract the Callbacks data from the pair? :D
 
so a->first is your AMX*, and a->second is your Callbacks.
 
user1182183
12:57 AM
ah
 
@GamErix keep in mind that keys cannot change. If you need to "change" a key, you have to remove the whole node, and then insert a new node.
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck lucky me no need for change, at least I think the script adress doesn't change at runtime
 
@GamErix Most people don't, it was just a random warning. Not sure why I warned you.
I make no sense, even to me
 
user1182183
:P
 
user1182183
with this I hope it will be faster, no need to look for a public function in a script because it's pre-searched
 
user1182183
1:04 AM
hm if I know AMX* I do not to iterate, can I just use map[amx]->second or must I use map.find(amx)->
 
auto it = rcp_amxinfo.find(my_pointer);
if (it == rcp_amxinfo.end()) throw THING_NOT_FOUND(my_pointer);
it->second.ClosestNodeIDChange; //do stuff
@GamErix map[amx] will add a new node if it wasn't already there. If you know it's there (or want it to be there), then that's fine. Most of the time you have to use find or at. (depending on if you want an exception thrown or not)
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck oh true, it's miliseconds difference but if a script gets unloaded when a path get's searched it will be removed, and if I use map[] it will be added again
 
user1182183
would be a "memory leak"
 
@GamErix you really don't want to be adding/removing nodes while anything else is doing anything else with any standard container. Synchronize your stuff.
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck script request (I save WHICH script requests) -> calculation -> return path to script
 
user1182183
1:08 AM
in meantime the script could get unloaded so ye.. find is the solution
 
user1182183
I think there is no difference between erasing with key and erasing with find?
 
user1182183
(I can safely assume the key IS present)
 
If you're new here, take a look at the rules or expect to get treated accordingly.
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@GamErix a key is a value, and find is a function. They're not really comparable. You usually pass a key to the erase function.
 
user1182183
hmm would it be possible to cast an vector of ints to an array of ints? or just supply vector? (because it's basicly an array, right?)
 
user1182183
1:15 AM
or:
				cell * Polygon = new cell[LocalPass.Polygon.size()];
				copy(LocalPass.Polygon.begin(),LocalPass.Polygon.end(),Polygon);
 
@GamErix "supply vector"?
 
user1182183
amx_PushArray(LocalPass.script, &ProcessTick_amxaddr, &ProcessTick_physAddr, Polygon, LocalPass.Polygon.size());
 
@GamErix if you need const cell*, then use LocalPass.data().
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck so just LocalPass.Polygon , okay thanks :)
 
user1182183
i'm rewriting my whole plugin
 
user1182183
1:16 AM
and meanwhile I do I also optimize
 
user1182183
much cleaner right now ; o (directory/file structure)
 
user1182183
+ added some namespaces
 
user1182183
and much other stuff
 
user1182183
oh bytheway
 
user1182183
do you know how to turn on warnings for unused variables?
 
user1182183
1:17 AM
in VS2012?
 
user1182183
hmm ` 2 IntelliSense: no suitable conversion function from "std::vector<cell, std::allocator<cell>>" to "const cell *" exists`
 
Open the project's Property Pages dialog box. For details, see Setting Visual C# Project Properties.
Click the Configuration Properties folder.
Click the Build property page.
Modify the Warning Level property.
3 mins ago, by Mooing Duck
@GamErix if you need const cell*, then use LocalPass.data().
 
@Mysticial, what was that for?
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck a ok :D
 
@Jeffrey old one fell off the starboard
 
1:19 AM
Oh aha. Just tumbled into evidence that Justin Bieber is talented after all:
 
@Jeffrey We always keep that message pinned on the starboard. But pinned messages fall off after a while.
 
@Mysticial, oh ok.
 
@GamErix keep in mind, warning levels above the default will warn about MSVC's own headers. A lot.
 
user1182183
IntelliSense: call of an object of a class type without appropriate operator() or conversion functions to pointer-to-function type
    huh :o
    amx_PushArray(LocalPass.script, &ProcessTick_amxaddr, &ProcessTick_physAddr, LocalPass.Polygon(), LocalPass.Polygon.size());
 
user142019
@Jeffrey it’s even mentioned in the newbie hints. How ironic.
 
user142019
1:21 AM
@GamErix either amx_PushArray or LocalPass.Polygon is an object of a class type without appropriate operator() or conversion functions to pointer-to-function type.
 
user1182183
 
user142019
I fucking hate it when teacher use Dutch terms instead of English terms in development class.
 
user1182183
@Zoidberg'-- complain to him/her ;D
 
user142019
IT IS CALLED EXTEND NOT UITBREIDEN AND CLASS NOT KLASSE.
 
user1182183
@Zoidberg'-- weet ik I KNOW
 
user142019
1:23 AM
It’s annoying and it won’t help anyone ever to use Dutch terminology since all material on the Internet is in English.
 
user1182183
@Zoidberg'-- so how would I define such an operator?
 
@GamErix LocalPass.Polygon is a std::vector<cell>, not a function. Do you have any idea what you're doing?
 
user142019
R operator()(T t, U u) { … }
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck aa. data() exists in all structures?
 
@GamErix only vector and array and string. The rest aren't contiguous.
 
user1182183
1:26 AM
ah soo :D
 
user1182183
Works, sorry for my stupidity :$
 
it's safe for me to begin my weekend and go home now?
 
youtube.com/watch?v=YdJu6y3YZdo at 1:33, would the guy went home at some point if the kids didn't interrupted his... "thinking"?
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck no reasons for a not :P
 
user1182183
1:28 AM
Thank you very much
 
@GamErix k, be back in 3 days
 
user1182183
@MooingDuck will miss you xD
 
Where's @emartel... he might recognize this guy...
 
user142019
Some Dutch idiot aged 15 or 16 killed a linesman and other idiots from his school are supporting him. T____T
 
user142019
PEOPLE WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU
 
user142019
1:32 AM
 
Was it an intentional kill?
 
@Zoidberg'--, people want to seem heartless...
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked Well, they physically abused him.
 
user142019
He died afterwards.
 
In other news, Vaatstra.
+1 for science.
 
user142019
1:36 AM
If it were up to me the culprit(s) would have been hit with a bat a few times and then crucified.
 
You show em.
 
user142019
As a warning to other morons. :P
 
@StackedCrooked +1 for being stupid enough to voluntarily submit his DNA for testing!
 
user142019
I thought his father did?
 
user142019
I must have missed something then.
 
user1182183
1:40 AM
hm does any1 know how I can start & attach to a process from VS2012? My application crashes immeadiatly at startup so I don't have any time to attach xd
 
@GamErix So start it from the debugger.
 
user1182183
@JerryCoffin how?
 
user1182183
the project is a DLL
 
@GamErix Debug the executable that uses the DLL.
 
1:43 AM
@StackedCrooked Funny, this season and I haven't heard of it.
On to my to-do list...
 
user1182183
@JerryCoffin kinda hard to attach when it crashes immediatly after loading my DLL (which is instantly)
 
user1182183
but I did sleep(10000) so i had time to attach, I know what the issue is
 
@GamErix You start the executable from the debugger.
 
user1182183
but I have to post on the cmmunity forum to get assistance with it
 
user1182183
@JerryCoffin how's that possible? don't see any option :o
 
user1182183
1:47 AM
hmm is it possible to call a function_a from function_b but function_a get's only executed when function_b is done?
 
user1182183
void foo(){ CallImmediatelyAfterThisFunction(foo2); }
void foo2(){}
 
Anyone using Sublime editor?
Just curious about it. It looks neat,.
 
@GamErix Varies between debuggers.
 
user142019
@StackedCrooked I use it every day.
 
user142019
It’s awesome.
 
user1182183
1:55 AM
@JerryCoffin VS2012
 
user142019
Especially SublimeClang.
 
user1182183
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Q: How to delay a function call (call foo2() from foo() but only execute when foo() is done)?

Gam ErixI want to call foo2() from foo() but I want foo2() to be ONLY executed after foo() is finished. Example: void foo() { std::cout << "1.foo()" << endl; Call_When_This_Function_Is_Done(foo2()); std::cout << "2.foo()" << endl; } void foo2() { std::cout <&...

 
user1182183
any suggestions on improving question?
 
Boost scope exit might help.
If I understand your question correctly, that is.
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked I placed an example there :)
 
1:57 AM
Psst, guys.
 
@GamErix Pretty much need to make the executable part of a solution, if I'm not mistaken. Alternatively, download the debugging tools for windows, and use windbg (not as pretty as VS, but fairly functional anyway).
 
Quick question.
 
@ThePhD Quicker answer: no.
 
Aww. :c
 
@ThePhD :-)
 
1:57 AM
But... but but.... long file names... ;~;
 
user1182183
@JerryCoffin I'll stick with sleep(10000) :P and hurrying to attach the debugger XD
 
@GamErix That should work too. You could also try a while (!IsDebuggerPresent()) sleep(0);
@ThePhD Okay, what about them?
 
user1182183
@JerryCoffin oh ok ;D
 
Windows has API functions to tell whether you're in debugging, I'm fairly certain.
 
@GamErix Like this? Fixed. (It's a hack, really.)
 
1:59 AM
@ThePhD Yes -- IsDebuggerPresent() (which has an eerie familiarity).
 
Oh wow. I didn't know it was exactly like that.
Damn Windows makes shit easy.
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked I'll edit my question :P
 
user1182183
with a real world example
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked wow yea
 
@JerryCoffin This is more like a not-coding question (I know how to deal with it when I code), it's just that when actually using windows. I'm trying to copy over a crapload of shit and it won't let me copy stuff to a certain nested directory tree.
 
user1182183
2:01 AM
it works on both windows and linux?
 
I'm trying to figure out how to spank Windows to behave and deal with long filenames, because NTFS should be able to handle it.
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked also I can just pass all the parameters that foo() recieves to foo2()?
 
@GamErix Yeah, if you capture them in the lambda.
Capturing by reference should be safe.
 
user1182183
 
user1182183
like this?
 
user1182183
2:04 AM
uh 4 errors
 
user1182183
2 intellisense, 2 compile
 
@ThePhD NTFS will, but the Windows shell won't. NTFS allows paths up to 32768 characters, but the shell only supports up to 255 (both +/- a little). Somewhere around, I have a program to deal with this, if you want a copy.
 
user1182183
Error 2 error C3493: 'amx' cannot be implicitly captured because no default capture mode has been specified z:\profile\rafal\desktop\182\source\main.cpp 293 1 RouteConnectorPlugi‌​n
 
user1182183
Error 1 error C2018: unknown character '0x1' z:\profile\rafal\desktop\182\source\main.cpp 293 1 RouteConnectorPlugin
 
2:05 AM
@JerryCoffin Yespls. I'm doing a deep copy, with all my music.
 
@ThePhD It may take a few minutes -- I think it's on a hard drive that's not connected at the moment.
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked using a global variable at my point seems so easy, but if AmxLoad get's executed twice, then amxLoad_delay will have one problem ;F
 
user1182183
(if it doesn't execute immediately after amxload)
 
You don't need a global variable.
 
@JerryCoffin I can totes wit.
 
user1182183
2:08 AM
@StackedCrooked error C3493: 'amx' cannot be implicitly captured because no default capture mode has been specified
 
@GamErix Yes, you need to capture it in the [].
 
user1182183
oh
 
user1182183
[amx]
 
user1182183
?
 
user1182183
2:09 AM
std::shared_ptr<void*> ptr(nullptr, [amx](void*){AmxLoad_delay(); });
 
@GamErix This way you capture a copy.
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked ah okay so my last message should be good :P
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked good
 
user1182183
no need to worry about destroyed data
 
user1182183
Error 1 error C2018: unknown character '0x1' z:\profile\rafal\desktop\182\source\main.cpp 293 1 RouteConnectorPlugin
 
user1182183
2:10 AM
huh
 
user1182183
line: std::shared_ptr<void*> ptr(nullptr, [amx](void*){AmxLoad_delay(amx); });
 
I think your file is corrupted.
 
user1182183
I'll look with HexView
 
Or you are including a binary file, or something.
Just delete the line and type it again.
 
user1182183
now the big test
 
user1182183
2:15 AM
ok we are a step further, need to debug some more ;F
 
user1182183
thank you very much, if you want to post an answer with this go ahead :)
 
@GamErix Done.
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked :)
 
I think Troy's answer is also interesting.
However, it won't work the way he presents it.
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked yeah
 
2:25 AM
@ThePhD Okay -- do you want executable, source, or both? (Fair warning: it's old enough that I'm not sure it'll build with anything newer than VS 6).
 
@JerryCoffin Both, so incase a lightning bolt of lazy hits me, I can just use the executable. :D
 
@StackedCrooked I've corrected it now
 
@ThePhD Okay -- what's your email?
 
@JerryCoffin herbladerbla@doodeedoo.com
 
@Troy Nice :)
 
2:31 AM
@ThePhD Okay -- probably want to delete that now to prevent its getting indexed and such (and the email should be waiting).
On second thought, it reject the email. I think I need to rename the executable before it'll accept it.
 
@GamErix Btw, another solution would be this.
 
Yeah, g-mail automatically kills executables.
 
@ThePhD It's like an antibiotic.
 
user1182183
@StackedCrooked hmm nice one :o
 
@ThePhD Okay -- I think it went through. You'll need to rename release\dupe_tree.bin back to release\dupe_tree.exe to be able to run it if you don't rebuild from source.
 
2:35 AM
@JerryCoffin Alright. Thank you very much. WOOHOOO MY MUSIC IS SAAVED!
 
user1182183
hm
 
@StackedCrooked In the big Google Human.
 
user1182183
my std::map is crashing
 
@ThePhD Which leads to the obvious question: why hasn't Microsoft fixed this?
 
@JerryCoffin Old shell code, fixed-size buffers for security, blah blah dumb shit.
There might be a quick hotfix or something though.
I dunno.
 
2:41 AM
@ThePhD Since I had it out anyway, I just tried converting and building under VS 2012. Not to brag, but my code was clean enough that it compiled (albeit, with a few warnings) and seems to be working correctly on the first try.
 
@JerryCoffin Hey, that's pretty brag worthy.
If only it felt like that with ogonek. :c
... OH MY GOD I'M INSTALLING BOOST ON MY NEW COMPUTER.
... Boost has become second nature.
NOoooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOooo
 
@ThePhD Oh -- testing it reminded me: for rather obscure reasons (i.e., customer wanted it) you have to create the directory for the destination before you use it -- for example, if you pick c:\music as the source and D:\ as the destination, it'll put the contents from c:\music directly into d:\, not into d:\music. I should fix that, since it's not for the customer (who never paid his bill either) any more.
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah, that'd be.... helpful.
Thankfully, it's just a single move, quick and fast and not painful despite lots of GiBs.
 
user142019
Haskell quine is damn short:
 
user142019
main = putStr s >> print s
s = "main = putStr s >> print s\ns = "
 
3:04 AM
@ThePhD Yup -- definitely necessary.
 
@StackedCrooked, try out this one. The name is a little bit gay but it's worth something especially if you are running osx 10.8+
 
What makes it better when running 10.8+?
 
I've tried both 10.6 and 10.8. They dropped support for 10.6 very early when the app was very buggy, trust me I use it everyday even if it crashes like 10 times a day
 
Currently I'm still on 10.7.
 
Yeah sorry I meant 10.7+
Quoting from 1.3 note: Note – Because of the small number of Snow Leopard users, and the requirements of the scripting API, Chocolat now requires 10.7 or later.
1.4 is pretty stable right now.
One of the reason why I'm updating to 10.8 is because of this app.
 
sbi
3:23 AM
Did the robot clock in yet?
 
@sbi We all thought he was passed out on your couch.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Nope. He was pretty much drunk, so I took him almost all the way to his place, but when a train was announced to arrive the minute we got out the station he doesn't live far from, I couldn't resists and let him walk alone. Those trains only run once or twice an hour now, after all. OTOH, it might be -5°C and if he's lost outside he'd probably die.
But I've called him up and he said he's home, so I suppose it's alright. I am just worried nevertheless...
 
Hey, I'm fine.
I was just showering.
 
sbi
Sigh.
Great.
Thanks.
 
Thanks for worrying :)
 
sbi
3:29 AM
Well, people freeze to death here in such nights, and coming from a warm country you didn't seem to be worried about it.
 
I was drunk. How could I be worried.
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sbi
Yeah, that was exactly what I was worried about.
Despite being drunk myself, that is.
 
Ok, can't really fight sleep now. Bye.
 
sbi
Sleep well!
 
@sbi Freeze to death at -5C? Growing up (or my imitation of thereof) in South Dakota, we figured -5C was warm enough you could sleep naked outdoors without a problem.
@R.MartinhoFernandes G'night.
@sbi Sounds like quite a party.
 
Xeo
3:32 AM
Aw, you guys got drunk again without me :|
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Yeah, I know. Our car once froze to death ( we had to call A³ to jump start us) in South Dakota. Still, he grew up in Portugal, and seemed very calm about walking through the cold, so I worried.
@Xeo The robot's boss paid for most of it. Only he and a former work mate and me went to some bar afterwards and had another few mojitos. It probably wasn't the best idea I ever had, but the three of us had a lot of fun, so it was definitiely worth it.
 
Xeo
Ah, so it was a rather "private" occasion.
Speaking of mojitos, I'd like one.
 
@sbi Well, I suppose -- we used to joke about people from Florida simply ceasing to exist when it got too cold, and if I'm not mistaken, Portugal is even warmer than Florida.
 
sbi
@Xeo I'm not sure I would call ~50 people a "private occasion".
 
Xeo
> Only he and a former work mate and me
I was going with that.
 
3:36 AM
@Xeo Plus the 47 other people who happened to be at the same bar...
 
sbi
@Xeo Oh. We were pretty drunk already when we hit that bar. Well, I dunno 'bout the robot, but we other two guys certainly were.
 
Xeo
That might make sense.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin That was the other bar!
 
Xeo
@sbi Oh, I see.
So afterwork-party + hanging out afterwards or something like that?
 
@sbi Damn -- I haven't had thing to drink, and I'm confused!
 
sbi
3:37 AM
Damn. I feel like I am not making much sense anymore.
@Xeo Yep, you got it.
 
Xeo
k
 
sbi
And that former workmate of mine, drunk as he was himself, looked very sternly at me when we left the bar, trying to make me promise I get the robot home. That's when I realized that the robot might not even have realized that people die out in the streets on such occasions. So I started to worry and resolved to got him home.
 
@sbi In that case, you're more sober than you implied -- if you were seriously drunk, you'd be sure you made perfect sense, and any problems were our fault.
 
Xeo
@sbi I was surprised at the amount of snow out there today.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Oh, I am pretty sure I made perfect sense, and it's all your fault. Only I have learned to not to put too much emphasize on that, because it's usually wrong.
 
Xeo
3:40 AM
And I have to admit, it was not the best idea to go out in thin jeans, a trekking jacket and some sneakers.
 
@sbi I think we can take for granted that my wife would agree that it was my fault anyway.
 
Xeo
lol
I'll head off to sleep to. Let's see if I can make it before 5am, that'd be a first for the last 5 days.
 
sbi
@Xeo Of the damn fool was proud to have brought a warm cap. As if he'd even have the slightest chance to stay warm just because he wears it.
Anyway, I am drunk like a soldier, too, and I have only 4 hours left to sleep, so I might just as well go to bed right now.
 
Xeo
G'night.
 
sbi
Night!
 
Xeo
3:43 AM
@sbi I think I'll have 8 :)
 
@sbi G'night.
 
sbi
@Xeo Yeah, but you're a kid, so you have extra allowance.
 
Xeo
lol
 
3:58 AM
Has anyone heard of nand2tetris?
 
Dammit, now I want to be in Berlin too.
 
4:15 AM
So yeah, apparently the PS3 "broke" in between my brother using it.
Filesystem corruption and it won't turn off after restoring it.
 
user1182183
 
how is that a linux problem and not your problem?
 
user1182183
@Rapptz it compiles on windows..
 
@GamErix, What do you use to compile it on either?
 
user1182183
@chris windows: VS2012 (VC110) , on linux G++ and GCC
 
He says he's using GCC on centOS6 or something
 
user1182183
4:39 AM
if you tell me how to check version I can say it :P
 
Oh, never mind. Use __VERSION__ in GCC to check the version.
 
std::cout << __VERSION__;
 
And pass -std=c++11 or -std=c++0x.
Why does the PS3's restoring default settings screen have to not have a progress bar? It's been going 30-60 minutes now and I have no clue if it's doing anything.
I'm thinking I'm going to have to see what I can get off the hard drive and reformat it, but it's work setting up the desktop to do that.
 
user1182183
@chris oh that worked
 
@GamErix, try with g++ -v
 
user1182183
4:44 AM
warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete <- should I worry?
 
user1182183
@Jeffrey gcc version 4.4.6 20110731 (Red Hat 4.4.6-3) (GCC)
 
user1182183
also a warning that makefile has modification time of 3.5 seconds in the future
 
user1182183
virtual machines.. always complaining
 
lol you need to update your GCC
 
w/e, factory settings appears to be working. It's about time it did anyway, and there's not much on there, let alone anything really important.
 
user1182183
4:46 AM
@Rapptz yum update gcc?
 
user1182183
xd
 
@Rapptz I have 4.2.1
 
I only ever started with 4.4.1 with C::B.
Actually, wait, I used dev-cpp before that, thanks to the school. I'm not sure what it has, 4.3?
 
4.2.1 is old as hell
 
user1182183
so 4.4 is pretty up to date?
 
4:47 AM
No
 
@GamErix no
 
I'm running 4.7.1
There's 4.7.2 and 4.8 is due soon.
 
user1182183
Ok ok I'll have to fix the network connection in my virtual machine ;F
 
@Rapptz, I know, I'm waiting on updating my OS before updating it
 
user1182183
stupid windows can't compile .SO's
 
4:48 AM
There are a lot of "Only windows" things that makes me mad
It gives the idea MS has always to be different... fk em
Just take a look at that IE, the history. When the internet is getting into standards (CSS 3, HTML 5 etc...) Windows must always be different. So web developers has to write a css file for every browser and a css file for IE. This is so stupid.
 
user1182183
yum update gcc will be enough or yum update g++ needs to be done too?
 
user1182183
why does update only update to 4.4.6 and not higher?
 
@Rapptz, Ooh, when is 4.8 due?
 
user1182183
gcc version 4.4.6 20120305 (Red Hat 4.4.6-4) (GCC)
 
user1182183
how do I get 4.7 on centos ~.~
 

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