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user142019
11:00 PM
Enterprise software sucks donkey cock.
 
user142019
I want to make consumer software.
 
Can some one take a look at my font issue here: stackoverflow.com/questions/13240370/…
been searching all day but can't find a solution to my problem
 
@Zoidberg'-- poor you
 
user142019
Aug 12 at 17:05, by DeadMG
thank you for dumping your link in Lounge<C++>, kindly receive your express downvote, courtesy of DeadMG Incorporated
 
user142019
I cannot bin. :<
 
11:01 PM
isn't the point here to talk about c++ ...
 
user142019
@NikiC ?
 
user142019
Oct 24 at 19:54, by sbi
If you are new here, please take a quick look through the newbie hints. Thank you.
 
user406009
@Dave That's not really a C++ question.
 
@Dave have you tried walking into a room with random strangers to ask them to solve your problem for you?
 
i ask in most of the chat rooms on SO and get answers for problems. well other than here. I'll go ask game dev chat as they aren't hostile.
bye :)
 
@Dave No.
It's a lounge first and about C++ second.
 
doesn't mean C++ cannot be discussed
 
We really should remove teh C++ part of the name
 
user142019
Nah, it’s about food and sex second, C++ is something like tenth.
 
@EtiennedeMartel But, but, it says Lounge < C++ in the room title?!
 
11:03 PM
The rule is: you can ask question, but don't expect an answer.
 
i prefer to use this site to help and be helped. if you don't want to help thats fine. for chat i will use a general chat room not one specific to C++ =/
 
@NikiC It's Lounge<C++>. It's a template.
 
And don't be surprised if you get trolled.
 
im not expecting an answer im ere pointed the link and await to see if some one is willing to help.
 
We're no different than a bunch of drunk bad-asses in a bar on a Friday night.
 
11:04 PM
@EtiennedeMartel It was supposed to be a joke. Or something like that :)
 
Still, we are a tightly knit community. If you want us to help you, try being part of that community first.
 
user142019
Lounge<C++> is valid when operator++(decltype(C), int) is a function returning constexpr int, isn’t it?
 
Ell
yeah we are total bad asses, trolling n shiz
 
@Zoidberg'-- yes
 
Ell
ugh how does anyone have will power to do schoolwork?
 
11:06 PM
well i could but i would rather get the answer then rep the person who helped me. Its cool though , the room is run how you like it - just doesn't seem to follow the friendly way i prefer on other channels. I tend to get into the community by helping each other.
 
@Ell This problem is best solved by not doing it :)
 
any way- have a good day ya'll apologise for posting the link in here.
bye have a nice day :)
 
Ell
you have a nice day too
 
@Dave If you stay, you'll probably see our friendly side.
 
i would but my home is mainly the game dev room :P
 
11:07 PM
(And by the way, SDL sucks bad)
 
but not all of them do c++
 
(Like, terribly)
It always flabbergasts me how people use SDL in C++, considering it's a C library.
 
lol probably im still learning what is best everyone has different opinions
 
And it's old as fuck.
 
user406009
SFML > SDL
 
11:08 PM
@EtiennedeMartel @Mysticial @TonyTheLion @DeadMG @R.MartinhoFernandes @Xeo @CatPlusPlus @LucDanton @JerryCoffin @sehe @StackedCrooked @sbi
Poll: What would you think of removing "<C++>" from the name of the room in an attempt to clarify the room intend and discourage linkdumpers?
 
user406009
But it doesn't really matter.
 
i was aiming for SDL + OpenGL
 
Ell
yeah I'm always amazed how stuff still uses SDL
 
whoa easy! loud plinks
 
@MooingDuck Naw.
 
Ell
11:08 PM
gosu > sfml > SDL
 
Does SDL support hardware acceleration? Last time I checked, a few years ago, it didn't.
 
Bin, laugh at them, downvote. Also ignore.
 
it'd just make things worse.
 
@DeadMG you think so?
 
SDL is working on an update for 3D acceleration
 
11:09 PM
I don't know if I've formulated this question very well but i don't know how else to formulate it: How would you convert unsigned A to int B so if A = 1, B = 1?
 
but that was a long time ago
 
@sehe plinks as in plural? HOw many room owners are you?
 
@MooingDuck I pinned that.
 
@MooingDuck strangest logic I ever saw. I don't think it helps. In effect, it might get worse: the intent would get less clear
 
Ell
SDL isnt accelerated? why do people use it then? :o
 
11:09 PM
@MooingDuck how many edits are you :)
 
@Ell Because every damn C tutorial talks about it, and nobody knows any better.
 
user142019
“Lounge Haskell” will keep the noobs out. xD
 
@sehe oh right. oops :/
 
It's like asking why people are still doing C with Classes instead of clean, modern C++.
 
@MooingDuck I'd rather keep it. Since "Lounge<C++>" is kind of our emblem/badge.
 
11:09 PM
@MooingDuck Sure.
 
@Zoidberg'-- but it will attract the cool kids or wannabe cool kids. Zoidbergs, too
 
@sehe It would clarify that we aren't here to do code stuff, and are here to hang out
@Mysticial true
 
user142019
@sehe “The Lounge of Zoidberg” good one.
 
"Lounge and sometimes C++"
 
user142019
@sehe how is HBO called in English?
 
user142019
11:10 PM
WORLD Y U NO UNIVERSAL EDUCATION SYSTEM.
 
Which isn't entirely accurate. We're here to celebrate the g(l)ory of C++
And also to do some coding. A lot, sometimes. It's just not a QA site
@Zoidberg'-- Again?
 
user142019
@sehe Thanks.
 
@Dave You should look at SFML. It's way superior (but far from perfect).
 
define superior ? faster? flexible etc ?
 
Oct 23 at 13:13, by WTP'--
@sehe I study “informatica op HBO-niveau”, how would you translate that to English?
 
Ell
11:11 PM
@dave also good libgosu :D
 
user142019
@NikiC I’m doing Again.
 
Well, of the people who replied immediately, 4/5 said "keep", and none said "change" :/ Oh well
 
user142019
</trollmode>
 
@MooingDuck I'd very much hate to see C++ go from the name. What will be the identity of this room, when you strip it?
 
@Zoidberg'-- never heard that word (in that context)
 
user142019
11:12 PM
Lets all move to the PHP room!
 
@Zoidberg'-- Jerk. See the linked question :)
 
so what are the for and againsts for using SFML over SDL ?
 
user406009
@sehe The anti-Java and anti-PHP room?
 
30
A: Relative friendliness of developers by language on SO?

Shog9Of course C++ developers are friendly - they're completely and utterly mad! You don't learn a language like C++ and still manage to keep a firm grip on reality, and once free from the shackles of sanity they tend to also leave behind the normal stresses and frustrations that make, say, C programm...

 
@Lalaland Great. Then we can close the room as a dupe
 
11:14 PM
@Dave Performance. Ease of use. The fact that it's fucking C++ and not ugly C.
 
Ell
IIRC sfml uses modern c++ aka raii etc.
 
It feels way too Java-ish for my taste, but at least it's C++.
(It's also made by a French guy, so my racist side is not pleased)
 
performance is the big winning factor for which i pick normally
LOL
 
user406009
@Dave SFML has a much better API than SDL.
 
@Dave Ironically, it shouldn't be the case. Remember about The First Rule of Program Optimization?
 
11:15 PM
i know but OCD i love performance of code :P
 
Make it run right, then (if it's relevant for your users) make it run fast.
Code that crashes quickly is worse that code that runs slowly.
 
user142019
What about code that crashes slowly but runs quickly?
 
true but i can imagine its hard to pinpoint where the slow down occurs
or why*
 
That's why profilers exist.
 
user142019
DTrace <3
 
11:18 PM
In .NET, I like dotTrace. ANTS is good as well, but it's made by Red Gate, and they are douchebags. So, go dotTrace!
 
i'll have a fiddle with SFML and recreate what i made in SDL see how i get on :) thanks for the tip
 
@sehe presumably "The Lounge" or possibly a complete renaming "Pretentious Pedants" or something.
 
@MooingDuck Except, it won't be "Pretentious Pedants" for long as soon as C++ is gone from the title.
 
user142019
Lounge<not C++>
 
Lounge<maybe C++, but don't count on it>.
 
11:20 PM
Lounge<boost::optional<C++>>.
2
 
user142019
Lounge<Not a Q&A site>
 
Or, Lounge<Fuck>.
@DeadMG I like that one.
 
Lounge<??-C++>
 
Hopefully one day it'll be std::optional<C++>.
 
proposals up for it on isocpp.org
 
user142019
11:21 PM
Lounge<Java>
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's a nice one
 
Lounge<exit(C++);>
 
@Dave syntax errror
 
user142019
@Dave syntax error unless in comment, string literal, character literal or preprocessor directive.
 
Pedants, alright.
 
11:22 PM
Lounge<boost::variant<pedantry, C++>>?
 
Lounge<(C++,void(),"pedants")>
 
user142019
@DeadMG more like std::pair.
 
lol
 
@sehe Depends on macros.
 
user142019
Lounge<G, T, F, O>
 
11:23 PM
i know its a syntax error - thats why they then won't come here asking for help :P
 
I don't know. I really like Lounge<C++> as a name. It looks like a templated function call.
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Imbibition every day. Today's special: PEDANTRY [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
@EtiennedeMartel prove it
@Dave right
 
@Rapptz It's actually compilable C++, if you were to sufficiently abuse constexpr.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Lounge<'GT','FO'>
 
user142019
11:24 PM
room topic changed to You’re not welcome to Lounge<C++>: Imbibition every day. Today's special: PEDANTRY [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [gtfo]
 
lol
 
@Zoidberg'-- definitely did a doubletake there
 
@MooingDuck :-
 
he's not an owner
no sweet italics
 
@DeadMG Just not of this room
Probably still owns the bin :)
 
11:25 PM
there are other rooms?
I love how the bin has owners.
 
@sehe I've always been edit happy :( There needs to be a 1 plink per message limit
 
user142019
@sehe lolwat
 
user142019
@sehe I’m not even allowed to talk there.
 
user142019
@sehe daknøk is deleted, remember?
 
user142019
My hobby: confusing people.
 
11:28 PM
actually i want a code that does not include any standard lib. function or any other lib . includes — user1799316 15 hours ago
 
@Zoidberg'-- I definitely just went to the history to prove you wrong :(
 
huh
I wish I could downvote comments.
 
> Please Provide me a code that convert a float into a string.
please provide him a code
 
@DeadMG That was your edit? Not "I have program thee whole code But I..."
 
@MooingDuck All I did was fix the fuckedup formatting.
 
user142019
11:30 PM
People who cannot find out the formatting options are bad, should feel bad and should not post in the first place.
 
user406009
@Zoidberg'-- He is trying to do embedded work. That's actually a good reason for avoiding the C++ standard library. (But then why tag the question C++?)
 
So what are the current pseudo-poll results of the name change?
 
user142019
It’s like writing without being able to write.
 
@sehe #define exit(F) F
 
 
user142019
11:31 PM
@Rapptz everybody except @MooingDuck disagrees, @MooingDuck agrees.
 
@Lalaland so they say, but I've never heard a convincing counterargument
 
^ the legend lives on
 
@Zoidberg'-- I have no vote
 
Oh, right, didn't see that fucking ;.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Lounge<C++;> is still a syntax error
 
user142019
11:32 PM
@sehe dat flare.
 
@Zoidberg'-- flare?
:)
Yeah, I wasn't going to spend more than 30seconds :)
 
user142019
 
@Zoidberg'-- that's anuther word
 
user142019
Stack Exchange’ flair’s text’s anti-aliasing is terrible and Jeff Atwood should feel terrible.
 
user142019
@sehe pro tip: &.png.
 
11:34 PM
@Zoidberg'-- Aha! Nice. Brillant
 
@Rapptz so far 4 oweners said "don't change" and Etienne gave no clear response.
 
Whoo. No change group.
 
user142019
I say wall of death, Mooing Duck in the middle.
 
This is a C++ room
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion This is a Haskell room
 
11:35 PM
@Zoidberg'-- say what?
 
I read "a tea room" on a jiffy
 
if we change it to just Lounge then some random PHP trolls may think that they have free reign to brabble their crap here
 
38 secs ago, by Zoidberg'--
I say wall of death, Mooing Duck in the middle.
 
which is really not what we want
 
No explaining can be done
 
11:35 PM
@sehe I prefer the regular flair colours. Hotdog stand is probably the ugliest.
 
@TonyTheLion Erm. Brabble their flap? What did you just do then?
 
if it has C++ in the title, we can still claim we talk C++ here
 
user142019
@MooingDuck something they do at heavy metal concerts.
 
Ell
I find [en.se] very interesting
 
@sehe I said PHP.
oops
 
11:36 PM
@TonyTheLion Which we frequently do. At least the times I most appreciate
 
@Zoidberg'-- ah, my lack of culture shows itself again
 
@TonyTheLion OUT. NOW!
 
user142019
@sehe I only went to one once.
 
Ell
@tony where did your sex thing come from? out of interest?
 
user406009
11:36 PM
std::cout<<"Of course we can still talk in C++ without the title being Lounge<C++>"<<std::endl;
 
user142019
Two weeks ago.
 
@Lalaland boo std::endl;
 
@Ell oh gawd. Fuck do I know. Ask the other guys
 
@Zoidberg'-- Hehe. Dat mistargeted reply :)
 
user142019
@sehe LOL
 
11:38 PM
Guise, where does the meme with me and sex come from?
 
@Ell uh. self answer? It came out of interest :)
 
user142019
ITT: sehe and his family frequently go to heavy metal concerts.
 
@Ell wants to know
 
@TonyTheLion Not again
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion from you and sex!
 
11:38 PM
@Zoidberg'-- And my pets, don't forget those :)
 
@sehe annoying polar bear is annoying
 
@Ell I thought it was merely an observation that when sex is discussed, Tony shows up
 
user142019
Headbanging polar bear.
 
@Zoidberg'-- ITT: Sehe and his family have pictures all over the internet
 
user142019
This is how I imagine @sehe right now, only white: youtube.com/watch?v=67mpQjLF5Xk
 
11:39 PM
@TonyTheLion You didn't even listen to 4 polar bears singing whilst another polar bear chopped the piano, then!
13 hours ago, by sehe
Sooo. Anyone into christmas carols? Here's the fruit of my labour. http://downloads.sehe.nl/stackoverflow/tutti.mp3. Now all that's left to do is ... transcribe a piano part for our pianist. I forgot how convenient it was to not have to have piano parts while we went without a pianist... This is going to take a while.
 
@TonyTheLion That penguin.
 
@Rapptz polar bears love a roasted meme penguin
 
@TonyTheLion lol
@Zoidberg'-- lol
 
@sehe lols for everyone!
 
user142019
@Rapptz lol
 
11:41 PM
Reminds me, last friday, I saw christmas decorations in my local pharmacy. On november 2. These guys sure work quickly.
 
Ell
@sehe this is a complete long shot, but you don't happen to have piano music for fairytale in New York do you?
by the pogues?
 
@sehe ohhh nice
 
user142019
In December the Groot Dictee der Nederlandse Taal takes place again. :D
 
@Ell "fairytale in New York"? You mean Sandy? I don't have any music in New York. What do you mean?
 
@Zoidberg'-- so?
 
11:42 PM
@TonyTheLion It'll be gone after 3am - nightly backup will wipe it from the public earth
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion I always write everything down and afterwards you can check it online.
 
Ell
@sehe sorry "fairytale of new York" by the pogues. Nevermind, I knew it was a long shot, thanks anyway :)
 
I prefer to write it up. markup > markdown
 
@Ell Ah nvm. Should prolly read.
 
11:44 PM
the fuck is imbibition???
4
 
Ell
alcololing onesself
 
@MooingDuck I think I'd rather leave it as-is. Not sure exactly why, but...
 
Anyways, didn't exactly finish the parts yet: http://pastebin.com/xYrEPkEf
Luckily I have some sparetime tomorrow night to complete it
 
@Ell Not alcohol specifically, any drink.
 
@JerryCoffin well that's more than half voting against, no votes for. I think it should be unpinned, taken out back, and shot.
 
user142019
11:46 PM
I’m starving.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Bleeeehhh. This looks good, actually.
 
Ell
ew.
 
Not that menstrual mishap again
 
You evil bear.
 
Ell
speaking of food, I had my first MacDonalds on Saturday
 
user142019
11:47 PM
It’s called a Sloppy Joe, for people who are still interested.
 
Ell
my first fast food cheese burger
 
@Ell A saturday in 1991?
@Zoidberg'-- Again?
 
user142019
@Ell how terrible was it on a scale from 9 to 10?
 
McDonalds isn't that bad in moderation.
 
user142019
@sehe Again?
 
user142019
11:48 PM
37 mins ago, by sehe
@Zoidberg'-- Again?
 
@Zoidberg'-- What.
 
user142019
@sehe Je valt in de herhaling, vriend. :P
 
@Ell How would speaking of food remind you of McDonalds? I can hardly think of two things less related (except, perhaps, food and Burger King).
 
Ell
didn't really taste of anything. just tasted of mayonnaise and something :L but even though it didn't taste of much and I found an unidentified black thing which I just crunched away at, I wanted another
 
@Zoidberg'-- Vrind (FTFY)
 
11:49 PM
McDonalds food is carefully crafted in laboratories to be as irresistible as possible for the average human.
 
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel Cheese burgers from decent snackbars/restaurants > fast food cheese burgers.
 
@Ell whoa, really?
 
@JerryCoffin Not just any food. Bad food
 
Your head is saying "this is bad" but your body is saying "OH SHIT THIS IS SO GOOD THERE'S SUGAR AND FAT AND SALT AND HMMMM".
 
@Zoidberg'-- Sloppy Joe is AWESOME
 
user142019
11:50 PM
@MooingDuck I’ve never had one. I found the picture in the bin.
 
@Zoidberg'-- The picture? Are you sure you didn't find the whole thing in a bin?
 
@Zoidberg'-- They're really good (though I don't like messes so I make them less sloppy) and really easy to make
 
Man I'm now officially hungry as fuck.
Thanks.
 
Ell
I do like KFC though. Mmm chicken.
 
@sehe I guess that's closer, but even so, seems about like saying: "Speaking of intelligent, I saw a comment by a politician the other day..."
 
user142019
11:51 PM
I’ve had this a few times and it was fucking tasty.
 
user142019
 
@EtiennedeMartel Right. Don't believe a word of it. It is carefully crafted to be as cheap as possible. Then they create marketing images that make it appear as something else then soja beans and gistex pasta.
 
Ell
soja beans? pistex pasta?
 
user142019
The worst food after plastic fast food is vegetarian meat.
 
@Ell pistex gasta, TFTY
 
11:52 PM
soy beans, gistex is a brand iirc..
 
user142019
@sehe FTFY, FTFY
 
@Zoidberg'-- I'd think it is even illegal to eat vegetarians
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@Zoidberg'-- tha joke, brother, tha joke
 
user142019
@sehe unless you’re the grocery’s.
 
user142019
Oh nee w8.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Tofu is good. You're crazy.
 
Ell
11:54 PM
quorn mince doesn't taste different in something like a lasagna
 
@EtiennedeMartel Orthogonal concepts detected
 
user142019
> Wat eet een vegetarische kannibaal? De groenteman.
 
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel Never had tofu.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Ow that's bad. I laughed.
 
Ell
oh God no, tofu is what i imagine raw placenta to taste like
 
user142019
11:55 PM
Tofu looks like feta cheese so it’s probably also as dry and as fucking terrible as feta cheese.
 
Ell
its horrible
 
@Zoidberg'-- It's essentially a sponge that tastes exactly like whatever you put it in.
 
@Ell Wow placenta? Isn't that a bit of an overexaggeration?
 
And it's also incredibly protein rich.
 
placenta. that's the word I was looking for when I was suppressing the vomit reflex to that Sloppy Joe picture
Sloppy Joe didn't exactly clean the kitchen after birth
 
user142019
11:56 PM
I don’t understand how people can swallow things like dry potatoes and feta cheese. It’s dryer than cork.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Feta is dry? Wut? It's like drenched in salt water.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Come come. Time for some scientific A-B tests
 
user142019
@sehe We hadden het bij biologie ooit over de moederkoek, en een klasgenoot vroeg: “eet de baby daar ook van?”
 
@Zoidberg'-- Gibberish
 
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel When I put it in my mouth it tastes like nothing but dryness.
8
 
user142019
11:57 PM
@sehe I’m not telling lies.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Great for out of context quoting
 
@Zoidberg'-- First, I'm gonna star that. Second, your mouth is weird.
 
user142019
@sehe why?
 
@Zoidberg'-- See the star board.
 
Because "joppie"
 
user142019
11:58 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I still don’t understand why it’s starred.
 
user142019
Because it’s funny out of context.
 
user142019
But I don’t see how it’s funny.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Trolls are bad at playing naive trolls
 
Ell
can you guys please try something for me? make a fist containing your left thumb with your left hand and then touch the back of your throat. does it inhibit the gag reflex?
 
@Zoidberg'-- Don't let logic interfere with humour. Geez. Feta geez
 
user142019
11:59 PM
@sehe is it some lame sex joke?
 
@Ell Why don't you try it yourself?
 
@Zoidberg'-- snort
 
@Zoidberg'-- Dicks. We're talking about dicks.
2
 
user142019
@sehe coke
 
@Ell This is a placebo.
 
11:59 PM
yes please
 
user142019
@EtiennedeMartel You guys are dicks for starring that!
 
Ell
I have and it works. just doesn't on some people o.O I'm wondering if I've somehow subconsciously trained myself
 
@Zoidberg'-- well, you did :)
 

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