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12:04 PM
@Abyx actually they have a valid fear, although they should be watching for interference in their elections more
 
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Horse meat found in Tesco burgers. Camel toe found in Primark leggings.
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@Mgetz nope. it's not 1940, russia doesn't need lithuania
 
Ven
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@Abyx no Russia doesn't, but putin might need a false flag operation. That said I suspect the target of such an operation would be Georgia. Lithuania is a bit dangerous to start a war with.
 
Ven
Hi @Madds28 we find this a strange and disturbing tweet from a transgender. JS
 
12:10 PM
> JS
TRIGGERED
 
@GundolfGundelfinger set of 7 at 110kg at the squat today
 
@EnnMichael All the functions that have the type in the interface need to be recompiled, because changing the struct breaks ABI.
@EnnMichael struct and impl give no benefits here. It's merely a syntactic convention.
 
user1804599
December 1st. Let us not forget the millions of junior developers spending their morning adding snowfall to client websites #solidarity
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> Rasa Miskinyte spent last Saturday in a freezing forest near Lithuania's capital learning to gather water from a pond with a condom
Survival porn.
 
ponds with condoms
 
12:24 PM
@nwp Wut.
 
12:51 PM
Does freezing forest imply the pond was frozen too
If that's the case how did the condom help
 
you can often smash through the ice if it's thin
 
Also why would someone who needs to gather water from a pond in a situation of emergency have a condom
 
Ven
don't you always have an emergency condom with you
 
you are more likely to carry a condom than a water bottle
 
Ven
not really no
 
12:53 PM
I guess it depends. In a frozen forest I would more likely have a bottle than a condom
 
to be fair
unflavored unlubed condoms are used for survival stuff
because they're very resistant
I learned this in a discussion on reddit about survival kits
 
Is it okay to have slashes in CMake project names?
 
wouldn't risk it
 
Ven
no
 
Is it okay to have slashes in condoms?
 
1:00 PM
I don't get how you equate CMake and protection.
 
In case you don't mind having a little bit of children, I'd say it's ok.
 
@ViniyoShouta How do you get just a little bit of children?
 
@Rerito abortion
 
I'd say about 2 or 3 of 'em is still a little bit. 8 might be a bit too much.
 
one is too many
Dirty filthy things
 
1:02 PM
Little bit of child: what is it? A limb or smth?
 
Is it normal that PHP and mysql takes a week to learn all of it?
 
Ven
you'll regret it for far longer
 
@ViniyoShouta recovering from alcoholism takes longer
 
@Ven Aiiii freeeer
 
Ven
trkl kho
 
1:09 PM
I think that after you've learned to code C++ at a reasonably good level of clean, fast, maintainable code that obeys many standards, any other programming language will look as easy as it gets
 
@ViniyoShouta Ask @rightfold.
 
Ven
@ViniyoShouta hahaha, funny one.
 
except Python, python is just awful
 
Ven
Try learning Agda. Don't forget Lisp on the way.
 
isn't that the language with the 'Absurd' keyword?
 
Ven
1:13 PM
among others
 
Ell
@Rerito put them through a mincer
 
Behold the wisdom of a gender scholar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlnmiyjPFYc https://t.co/Jpe8SpgQKo
welp
how did humanity get there?
 
you really love posting inflammatory things exclusively don't you
 
@AlexM. why would one post boring things?
 
@ViniyoShouta lolwut
@ViniyoShouta So wrong, especially when your examples are PHP and MySQL.
 
1:24 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes did you manage to find the position of 5 in the end?
 
yesterday, by R. Martinho Fernandes
That yield ω·25
Transfinite numbers are numbers that are "infinite" in the sense that they are larger than all finite numbers, yet not necessarily absolutely infinite. The term transfinite was coined by Georg Cantor, who wished to avoid some of the implications of the word infinite in connection with these objects, which were nevertheless not finite. Few contemporary writers share these qualms; it is now accepted usage to refer to transfinite cardinals and ordinals as "infinite". However, the term "transfinite" also remains in use. == DefinitionEdit == As with finite numbers, there are two ways of thinking of...
 
ass times twenty-five
thanks, got it
 
You might need this ^ to understand.
@AlexM. times
 
Cantor also used the Pigeon Hole theorem and proved a mathematical form of... what was it, countably infinite sets or w/e?
Diagonilzation or w/e
 
In set theory, an ordinal number, or ordinal, is one generalization of the concept of a natural number that is used to describe a way to arrange a collection of objects in order, one after another. Any finite collection of objects can be put in order just by the process of counting: labeling the objects with distinct whole numbers. Ordinal numbers are thus the "labels" needed to arrange collections of objects in order. An ordinal number is used to describe the order type of a well ordered set. An ordinal number can only be used to describe the order type of a well ordered set and not the order...
Or this ^
(sigfpe is awesome)
My explanation of the solution starts here chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/10?m=34321835#34321835
Shorter explanation: ω is the position of the first object that comes after a countably infinite sequence of objects. ω+ω is the position of the first object that comes after two countably infinite sequences of objects, which is the same as ω·2. "five" comes after twenty-five countably infinite sequences of objects (using the naming system we adopted), so its position is ω·25.
 
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1:40 PM
@ViniyoShouta You can't write maintainable code in C++.
 
Ven
it's easy to say that when your longest-lived project was a week or so, really.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I get it now, cool stuff
 
Is it normal that the linking step of (building) Clang basically freezes my entire machine for ages
 
Sounds normal, yeah :/
 
nwp
@Columbo if you run out of RAM, yes, 32GB is enough to prevent that on -j8
 
user1804599
1:50 PM
@Ven Four years.
 
Ven
@rightfold :P
the python one?
 
@rightfold std::maintainable will be added in C++75.
 
@Ven lol
 
Ven
hi wrongwes
 
user1804599
@Ven PHP
 
Ven
2:02 PM
@rightfold I'm so sorry.
 
user1804599
ok
 
Ven
@rightfold cook
 
2:22 PM
@rightfold But you can
 
nwp
@sehe is that a personal or a general "you"?
 
@Abyx Hey. I found something that may interest you.
@nwp personal :)
 
@sehe good. keep looking
 
Apparently Russia is succeeding at letting AIDS get out of hand again. The HIV epidemic is spreading to the heterosexual community. I wonder how they manage to do so.
 
@sehe drugs
 
Ven
2:29 PM
I thought you knew better, @sehe. :P
 
@Abyx Perhaps.
You know. Your beloved "Gayrope" appears to be better at containing AIDS. Go figure (turns out if you suppress something it doesn't actually stop existing, it just hampers proper addressing)
It's an interesting inversion, really.
 
@sehe I fail to see any logic there
I could go into blaming NATO for heroin export from Afghanistan, but whatever, maybe another time.
 
lol
Here is my code: pastebin.com/mxFm79mY . And here is bz2 archive guvm.mvd.ru/upload/expired-passports/… . This archive is unpacking with my code in UTF-8, not in CP1251, as I expected... — Arthur Khusnutdinov 1 min ago
 
Ven
@sehe a literal strawman god
 
user1804599
@sehe I certainly can't.
 
2:42 PM
You're aging fast
 
user1804599
give crisps
 
@sehe actually it's open data
 
2:57 PM
in Discussion between sehe and Arthur Khusnutdinov, 14 secs ago, by sehe
It didn't sound like it would be public data, but that is a relief
 
user1804599
@sehe :D
 
@VessOnSecurity @codelancer @taviso You misunderstand your own ignorance. AV is my single biggest impediment to shipping a secure browser.
 
Ven
this shitstorm was very fun
 
3:17 PM
@Mgetz what's AV there?
 
audio-video
 
user406009
Anti-Virus I believe
 
Ven
adult video
 
@Abyx anti-virus
 
nwp
qt creator GUIs keep astounding me
you try to get help on the command line and get this
guess what you cannot do with the window? resize -.-
 
user1804599
3:29 PM
@sehe Zucht
 
nwp
they went the extra mile to disable resizing and reflowing of text just to make it bad, I will never understand why
 
> Built with Qt!
it's just a portent
of your programs acting just as bad
if you write them in Qt
 
user1804599
3:56 PM
Yummy, oliebol.
 
4:09 PM
@ViniyoShouta Either of these is a little like feces. For most people, it's enough to learn that it's nasty, so flush the toilet as quickly as possible. On the other hand, those few people who decide to study it in depth spend a lifetime on the task, and never reach the end.
 
4:20 PM
Oh, and in case you care: yes, I think both of those resemble feces in quite a few other ways as well...
 
@sehe Thank you for that bounty!
 
5:16 PM
Gotta love some of that CodeBlocks
just crashin' casually
 
Ven
giving you that xcode vibe
 
> *** Error in `/bin/codeblocks': malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x00000000070a90f1 ***
Coded by fuckin' experts
 
Ven
at least it crashed quickly
 
Gotta love some of dat Open Source baby
Where dem 17 year olds commit
 
@TannerSansbury Cheers :) You deserve it. Thanks for spitting out all that knowledge (in my experience, it's 80% perseverance, and it only looks like "ready knowledge" to the audience)
 
Ven
5:20 PM
@TannerSansbury v good answer
 
1 message moved to bin
@ProblemSlover please don't spam
> history -d 2015
Just typed this in bash. It doesn't appear to have the ominous side-effect
 
@sehe lol. too late.
 
I need some OpenGL advice. I got a threading problem where the opengl context can be pulled in the middle of my routine by another thread. Because Qt is broken, there is no fix. My current strategy is to check, for errors from GL calls and just skip that cycle if anything bad happens. How portable is this solution (in terms of crashing with an exception)?
 
user406009
5:43 PM
@Mikhail Why not just isolate all your OpenGL work to a single thread?
 
user406009
Just use a single thread with a thread-safe queue to push work to that thread.
 
user406009
Oh, is Qt the one using the context in the other thread?
 
user406009
That sucks.
 
So, I need to use Qt, which must do the rendering. The problem is that Qt's paint events aren't always processed , and this isn't transparent (for example the widget is hidden, or not enough time has elapsed between updates). So my texture update queue can stall for a mysterious amount of time. So I was going to fix the problem by updating the texture on an external thread. The problem is that Qt will, grab my widget's OGL context without asking it...
 
user406009
Wouldn't there be an issue of Qt running into errors because you grabbed the context? And you can't easily control Qt's error handling.
 
5:53 PM
That is what I thought, but it looks like OGL error codes aren't checked internally, and they appear inconsequential. But I'm not sure as the to consequence of OGL errors because I don't have much experience.
 
Hello
I have two regex patterns <head>(.+?)<\/head> and href=["\']?([^"\'>]+)["\']+?
it is possible to do a single line of them?
 
user406009
@Mikhail Seems like there is the chance of quite crazy behavior. I would avoid this at all costs. Why not take control of the rendering of that thing away from Qt?
 
user406009
Or someone controlling your texture update queue in a saner way.
 
user406009
@IsabelCariod What do you mean "a single line of them"? You want something which matches what?
 
a single expression
 
user406009
5:56 PM
Are you just looking for (<head>(.+?)<\/head>)|(href=["\']?([^"\'>]+)["\']+)?
 
Well, I don't know how to bring up an OGL context in a blank Qt widget. I think that in modern versions of Qt, every single widget has access to an OGL context. So, the widget life cycle would in some unpredictable fashion choose to overwrite my wglMakeCurrent bindings...
 
@Lalaland yes but I want <head> all href from here </head>
|this is or
 
nwp
6:09 PM
@Mikhail I'm pretty sure the bug is that you update the texture on an external thread. Use the signal/slot thing to make the main thread do it and the problem should go away. Multithreading and GUI/Qt/OpenGL don't fit together.
 
@JerryCoffin Are you talking about php/mysql?
 
@ViniyoShouta Yes.
 
6:27 PM
@fredoverflow jfc that's creepy
 
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Q: Is there a C++-like language that allows low-level access to objects?

The VeeA language I am looking for in this question should have the following characteristics: compile to machine code, have C++-style OOP design (possibly restricted to single-class inheritance), ideally be from the C family, allow handling unitialized stack-allocated objects, allow direct calling of...

Hmm... what?
 
user406009
Rust is probably the closest match
 
user406009
Actually no nvm. I didn't realize he wanted the insane type manipulation stuff
 
Ooh, kick features on mobile. Who wants to offer as a test subject for a minute?
 
lol at that pinned message
also here is a chromium leak - twitter.com/RT_com/status/804399701487255552
 
Wtf who pinned that?
 
don’t answer it’s a trick question to try kicks
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lool that message
 
> Octal notation like 0777 has three uses.
> One: to make a file mask to pass to chmod().
> Two: to confuse people when they write 013 and it comes out as 11.
> Three: to confuse people when they write 018 and get a syntax error.
good one
 
7:09 PM
is there a reason number 08
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sure, why not?
Or can't you kick a room owner? I never tried...
 
@JerryCoffin clicked on you and there's a "kick-mute this user" option
...not clicking that
 
@milleniumbug Oh, go for it.I don't have much to say anyway.
 
Ell
hmm
I think I'm going end up storing boolean expressions in a relational way in my database :V
not sure if that's a good idea or not
 
Alright, so.
> Applies a rotation of the specified angle about the origin of this Matrix structure.
There is no mention anywhere about whether that's in radians or degrees.
The method takes a double.
 
Ell
7:20 PM
are there other functions which take angles and the type is specified?
 
try both
 
@EtiennedeMartel Unit libraries would solve so many problems.
 
@Ell Yeah, it's in degrees.
It's the WPF Matrix structure.
I'm guessing they use degrees because it's meant to be used as is in XAML
Since rotations are usually in degrees in WPF because they are human-readable, then...
 
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel I would guess degrees then
 
OGL uses degrees
 
Ell
7:22 PM
they really should fix that
@Mikhail eh
OGL has somewere you can specify angles? :V
 
user406009
@Ell Old, outdated OpenGL 1 junk.
 
Ell
oh
 
Ell
what do you call &&, ^, ||, etc.?
 
and, xor, or?
 
7:24 PM
words you can't say on TV
 
Ell
"boolean operators"? I'm looking for a short name
 
doesn't mean a short name exists
as a group, they are the boolean operators.
 
@Ell "esperluette esperluette"
 
user406009
You could also call them logical operators.
 
user406009
Or binary logical operators.
 
7:24 PM
I'd use logical operators.
 
Ell
I'll call my table logic_predicates then :3
that's short enough
 
@Ell if we’re talking C++ (and many similar languages), ^ isn’t in that group
 
Ell
@LucDanton I was talking just generally
but good point, I always forget that I need to use != in c++
 
user1804599
@Ell logical operators
 
Oh, looks like François Hollande won't take part in the next elections.
 
user1804599
7:42 PM
Trollande.
 
Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure,it's not your fault
Not sure if funny or sad
 
why not both
 
Fanny.
 
Ell
now that's funny
 
@LucDanton I'm not a number, I'm a free(man);
 
7:45 PM
so when Trump is going to start oppressing all kinds of people SJW told us?
 
user1804599
I'm a free monad.
 
@Abyx Well, probably not at least until he actually becomes president so he can...
 
@rightfold You know what the purest painting is? The Monad Lisa
8
 
user1804599
@Ven cool, in PS you can do s `unionWith f` t.
 
The power of PostScript.
 
user1804599
7:50 PM
 
@fredoverflow "Hi Lisa. I'll bet you didn't realize you were a burrito, did you?"
 
I'm a burrito.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It'd be funny if he hadn't gotten elected.
 
user1804599
A burrito is just a tacoid in the category of enchiladafunctors, what's the problem?
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Ell
you're on fire
 
7:52 PM
@Ell You mean he's spicy.
 
Ell
exactly
 
user1804599
A single-object category is a monoid (and thus is a single-object subcategory of Purs):
 
user1804599
newtype Compose c a = Compose (c a a)
instance semigroupCompose :: Semigroupoid c => Semigroup (Compose c a) where
  append (Compose a) (Compose b) = Compose (a <<< b)
instance monoidCompose :: Category c => Monoid (Compose c a) where
  mempty = Compose id
 
user1804599
Category theory is amazing.
 
7:56 PM
instance orgy :: Compose (Groupy Groupy Musician)
 
@JerryCoffin now now, be kind
 
user1804599
Compose isn't a type class.
 
Xeo
@Morwenn Hollandaise
mmmh, now I want some
 
Hehe :D
 
Ell
I had eggs royale the other day
it was v yummers
 
Xeo
8:08 PM
k, ordered some Al Forno Gyros with broccoli and hollandaise.
dis gonna be good
 
@rightfold Good. Groupies aren't known for being particularly classy.
@LucDanton This is only a drummer. If he were a lead singer, he might get three or four groupies...
 
Ell
8:26 PM
any recommended JSON parsers for java/android?
 
0
Q: Best JSON parser for Android as or today?

Karl MorrisonI am currently creating an application and I now need to parse to JSON format etc. Which libraries as of today are the best recommended for Android device? I am handling from very small JSON feeds to large JSON so something that can handle both ok! I'm looking at two libraries at the moment and ...

 
user1804599
 
8:38 PM
@ThePhD Not having 50 commits with retarded msgs mebbe idk
 
@набиячлэвэли Shrug.
 
Not retarded commit messages.
Oh noooo, the illusion that I was competent enough to do it all in one commit
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S H A T T E R E D
And how could I just stuff all of those individual commits in someone's git history, forcing them to... SCROLL.
The raw, unadulterated horror.
 
user1804599
9:01 PM
 
9:36 PM
squashing is kinda useful
the real trick is to consider what should go in one commit
really ideally exactly and entirely one change
if you have a change that is multiple commits maybe best to squash
 
I have no words for that man anymore
 
Ell
man I have no effort to learn go
but instead I'm clumsily clawing through it
 
user1804599
This is the kind of diffs I like: github.com/rightfold/dinote/commit/…
 
user1804599
Small and no irrelevant crap.
 
Ell
10:17 PM
^ this is so cringey
and has a terrible message
totally missed the mark >.<
 
user1804599
What is a brogrammer?
 
user1804599
brobotics
 
Hi guys , just to make sure, insert does not overwrite, but rather creates new space and writes after the given positon. Making the vector larger ? Does it update the size of the vector too , when this happens ?
 
user1804599
RTFM
 
or just run it...
 
user1804599
10:28 PM
No, experimentation does not tell you how it works. Certainly not in C++.
 
user1804599
C++ is full of pitfalls that are difficult to discover through experimentation.
 
user1804599
You must get used to RTFM.
 
user1804599
TFM tells you everything you need to know.
 
fun project concept: a bot which will identify poorly-formatted code samples, clang-format them, and propose an edit with the beautified result
 
What if two bots have different code formatting conventions :-)
 
10:30 PM
they will FIGHT
 
nwp
@JackDeeth the problem with that is that you remove a good signal for a shitty question, making good and bad questions harder to distinguish
 
Maybe add a comment?
other signals for bad questions include the TurboBorlandC++ tag
 
nwp
arguably "identifying poorly formatted code samples" would not consider a different convention poor
 
or just format accepted solutions + questions
 
It could add a comment, saying "Life without clang-format is scarcely worth living" and with a link to Manuel Klimek's talk...
 
10:32 PM
This also boosts Kilmek's SEO
 
user1804599
Life without clang-format is certainly worth living. Especially since it is implied by a life without C and C++.
 
Ahem. clang-format works for Java too apparently :D
 
user1804599
Same thing.
 
The life of a C/C++/Java programmer without clang-format is scarcely worth living. It is assumed that the person posting the badly-formatted code is an aspiring C/C++/Java programmer. How about that? :D
 
Idk, MSVC has a formatter
gg=G
 
user1804599
10:37 PM
The life of a C/C++/Java programmer is not worth living.
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Yeah, in a better world we would all be doing J++
 
user1804599
J is pretty nice.
 
Another bot, which looks for C++ questions where the user is using built-in arrays or char * and tells them to use std::vector and std::string...
 
user1804599
A bot which detects new and delete and dupehammers as tinyurl.com/so-cxxbooks
 
nwp
another bot that detects and reports bots
 
10:42 PM
A bot which argues for equal rights for bots on StackOverflow Meta
 
A plagiarism bot would be more interesting
 
A bot that submits research papers entirely made out of plagiarism to online journals.
4
 
lol
the other bots don't exist
 
What life isn't worth living is the life of someone who makes Excel spreadsheets to input, validate, and export data from a very antiquated fundraising records system.
 
My friend does that for Aon up in Chicago (or I assume this part of what he does).
We're just a bunch of crazy people because we've confused work for life
 
10:52 PM
It's all good. Three weeks left. I made so many spreadsheets I made myself redundant. :D
 
spreadcheeks
 
11:04 PM
@Morwenn Boring, done too many times
@rightfold Which is why I can afford to live it
 
@sehe If you're going to try to RickRoll us, you need to use a title that might be halfway believable.
 
Oh well
Have I ever rickrolled you (or anyone else) before (HINT: am I lazy?)
 
@sehe I have no idea whether you may have tried to (nor how successful you may have been if you did try). Then again, it's not like I was actually serious--but the idea of a YT comment not being utter shite definitely tickled my funny-bone, so to speak. :-)
 
Mine too. Which is what I wanted to share
 
> A number of things are already invisible. We know they're there, but we can't see them: air, radio waves, farts, and the Belgian sense of humor.
 
@sehe I can't reconcile your comment with Jerry's. I think it's a whoosh on one of us. (Sting 'Ten Summoners Tale" track 8)
 
I could have worded it way differently. It was due to the same funny bone that I advertised it as breaking news. Hope that helps :)
 
@sehe It does. =)
 
user1804599
11:36 PM
<>~ is a nice operator.
 
user1804599
@sehe 😁
 

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