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3:06 PM
lol, of course someone on reddit already posted the trivial answer that is wrong.
"support the oldest you can"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'd say 5.x makes a nice, clean cutoff point (even though it wasn't such a huge improvement over 4.9 that it's necessarily going to make a huge difference)
 
> discoverynewfrontiers.nasa.gov uses an invalid security certificate.
Am I being MITMd or is discoverynewfrontiers.nasa.gov broken?
 
@CatPlusPlus A possibility, undoubtedly--but I thought he was planning to write C++ instead.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Same here
Possibly both :v
 
3:18 PM
Cert looks fine
 
Firefox complains the issuer is untrusted.
 
> The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown. The server might not be sending the appropriate intermediate certificates. An additional root certificate may need to be imported.
 
The issuer has no CN.
 
user1804599
Congrats to Simon Peyton Jones on election to @royalsociety 2016 #RSFellows @MSFTResearchCam https://royalsociety.org/people/simon-peyton-jones-12889/ https://t.co/MIjKVnaV4R
 
3:28 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes The certificate traces back to the "US Government Common CA" (via NASA Operational CA and US Treasury Root CA). So, the basic question is whether you trust the US government. Microsoft's take on the situation, for anybody who cares: blogs.technet.microsoft.com/pki/2011/03/13/…
 
3:41 PM
Hmm
When testing a REST API, should I create a test database with fixed sample data and hard code said data in the tests (e.g. create a user with username 'john.doe' and then use x.shouldBe('john.doe') in the tests) or should I create a sample state per test?
 
Ven
3:58 PM
Thou salt no write JS code, first and foremost
 
4:34 PM
@Shoe sample state?
can you give me an example?
 
@nick Of the same state?
Something like "user X exists in the database, user Y exists in the database, post Z exists in the database"
It's the initial state of the application
Every test is supposed to be isolated, so you always need some sort of sample state from which to make requests.
Like for checking if /users returns the list of users you would have 3-4 users in the same state against which to check if they exist after you make the request.
 
user1804599
 
5:06 PM
Is it you in the pic?
 
Why do you have your pic in rightfold's account?
 
Ven
rightfold is too ugly, it wouldn't display. (oh, the jokes)
 
@Shoe Both can be risky. We had a test breakage recently where we checked for the sample data; turned out we subsequently updated sample data and broke all the tests.
 
Ven
@Shoe both. unit test + integration test ;)
 
5:11 PM
... the former is not a unit test, it's still an integration test.
@BartekBanachewicz le boo
 
Ell
what is the sliding scale called that looks like this?
ADT <------------------> OOP style polymorphism
if anybody understands what I mean
 
a random and completely arbitrary line?
 
so splint's a good linter?
 
need a linter -> you fucked up
 
user1804599
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 
user1804599
5:18 PM
Gregorian calendar y u no year zero.
 
5:36 PM
because zero is relatively new?
 
> Les députés ont voté, par quatre voix contre trois [la suppression de Hadopi pour 2022].
 
user1804599
Now I have to do this shit where year :: NonZero Int.
 
@Morwenn Hadopi sounds like a pokemon
 
@Borgleader It's almost as useful as a Pokémon.
 
@Zoidberg What shit?
 
5:41 PM
22 mins ago, by Zoidberg
Gregorian calendar y u no year zero.
 
Ven
@Morwenn hey :( c'est cool les pokémons :(
 
@Ven Ils seraient cools s'ils étaient vrais :o
> 67 years later, she brings back the book to the library.
 
Anyone here knowledgeable about COM? I'm trying to learn it and I'm stuck:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36944642/regdb-e-classnotreg-in-com-tutorial
 
5:59 PM
perfectly happy to lend you a downvote
 
What can I do to make the question better?
 
He probably didn't even open the question
 
That is all I can conclude since he hasn't commented on the question here or there, other than to downvote it and say he's downvoting it
 
Apr 21 at 6:16, by Dmitri Budnikov
And then He said: let there be Rules. And there were.
Here, read this and find out why puppy is being a bad puppy.
 
lolwat
It somehow reminds me of Savant's Organismical.
 
6:04 PM
@Shoe You have to open the question to downvote it, but I didn't read it.
 
Ye, I meant "read"
 
Gotcha, so because I'm new, it is inappropriate to ask questions here
Well, I apologize for failing to notice the rules and cluttering up your chat with my question. Hopefully some day I will be cool enough in your eyes to be worthy of some time and consideration.
 
ask a remotely interesting question and I'll consider it right now.
 
6:20 PM
using namespace std; fail
 
user1804599
 
> What do I do if my problem isn't the programming aspect but rather the lack of drive and motivation to make something concrete?
 
@fredoverflow as a C++-first: lol
 
@DmitriBudnikov on est contre merde jade cette semaine
 
@fredoverflow Botanic.
 
Ven
6:34 PM
@fredoverflow LOL "PEARL"
 
Ven
hahahaha
 
:3
 
7:01 PM
@fredoverflow hahaha
 
user406009
@fredoverflow Wrong. The Object class lacks an uninstallJavaFromMachine method.
 
user406009
The most important feature.
 
7:31 PM
@fredoverflow The Donald Trump of programming.
 
pretty insulting to Trump
 
user1804599
Hillarious.
 
@Puppy what do you mean by that?
 
I mean that it's no coincidence that linters are primarily available for languages that are utter shite, such as Javascript.
 
user1804599
7:49 PM
Other languages have built-in linters and they call them type checkers.
 
or you could just do code review.
or both.
 
user1804599
99% of code review is a waste of time if you don't use type checkers.
 
Ell
meh. a breakpoint isn't firing event though the stack trace says it's the line where the error occurs
 
user1804599
The code will require way too much scrutinization.
 
Ell
I wonder if java has the equivalent of int 80 instruction
 
user1804599
7:52 PM
Java bytecode has a breakpoint instruction.
 
8:02 PM
lol
 
user1804599
lol
 
Angry shoppers all over town are wondering why there is no bread in the grocery stores.
 
@Shoe kek
 
@Shoe +1
I was assuming he would hear that as "get bred". Funnier that way
 
lol
 
8:13 PM
@Zoidberg I have had a brush with UB twice this weak. One I found during my own review, one I (sadly) only discovered after about a day of testing on a different machine :(
 
user1804599
Well, define the behavior then.
 
user1804599
 
weak* = week
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
8:53 PM
I'm so sad.
 
Ven
?
 
why is that?
 
Sad is sad :/
 
Ven
@Morwenn don't be sad <3
 
Well, I've been kind of depressed for over a year now.
Maybe 2.
Maybe 24.
 
9:00 PM
it will be over tomorrow
 
Ven
@Morwenn :(
 
nwp
@JohanLarsson the world will end?
 
no, the opposite
 
@JohanLarsson Wow, now that sounds kind of creepy :D
 
pessimists :)
 
Ven
9:01 PM
:P
 
never to late to give up
 
Well, I'm going to see a psychologist in one or two weeks.
 
a project cannot be close enough to being finished to be abandoned
 
Anyway, I'm leaving you all for ~30 minutes if not the whole night.
Later.
 
Ell
@Morwenn Good :) it's takes guts imho
night
 
9:03 PM
:)
 
Ven
@Morwenn cya bby
@Morwenn takes balls indeed
 
@Morwenn toodles
 
9:20 PM
wow
@Morwenn good luck
 
user1804599
9:31 PM
@Ven another boring weekend
 
user1804599
No, it's not. It involves TED, so it's shitty SJW circle jerking.
 
Ell
Have you seen it? :(
 
9:47 PM
@Ell That is pretty funny.
 
Ell
I need a git wizz.
 
@Ell I'm fairly wizzy with git
 
Ell
If I want to refer to the "working directory", what is the revision called? I know that your "latest commit" is HEAD, but what about HEAD + uncommitted changes?
is there a revision for that?
 
@Puppy That's what I mean
Testing is hard
 
9:55 PM
@Ell No
It's obv not revised yet
 
@Ell Indexed changes for ones that have been git added
other changes don't even really have a name.
 
Ell
right.
 
@Ell you mean staged files that are not committed?
 
Staged files/not staged files/untracked files. I do not think there are any other names.
 
git status tells you what you might have forgotten to git add, if that is what you mean
 
Ell
9:58 PM
I'm just wondering what the explicit way to do git diff otherBranch is. I just did git diff HEAD otherBranch and that doesn't include unstaged changes
 
git diff --cached tells you the hypothetical diff, that would be there if you committed
 
user1804599
10:08 PM
Caged files
 
10:38 PM
> Using script_file works just fine, I thought from reading the docs that calling script_file would run the script in the file.
Wtf. I make it explicitly clear.
 
hdt80 sucks at reading
 
Literally
"load without execute"
 
Ell
@ThePhD he is confused
 
@ThePhD Does that give access to the AST, or something?
 
Ell
> I thought from reading the docs that calling script_file would run the script in the file
it does do that
he mistyped somehow
 
10:41 PM
He's literally super-duper confused himself.
He did say in the first sentece that he was using load_file.
 
@Nican it gets up to the point where it can run it, but returns before running it
 
Yes, I get that.
 
lets you compile up front, then invoking is fast later. also used when you need to repeatedly invoke same string of lua code
 
Ell
11:04 PM
wow
this makes me incredibly angry
 
^ Such nice melody.
(Only posted this one a million times before.)
 
Ell
not bad
 
@StackedCrooked The videos in this chat room keeps doing this to me "This video contains content from Victor Entertainment, Inc.. It is not available in your country. "
 
@Ell gross
 
@Nican Sorry bout that. I really hate it when that happens to me. (Does this one work?)
 
11:15 PM
Np. x3
@StackedCrooked No, but this one did: youtube.com/watch?v=qhWE0ksrtL4
 
Lol, different song, but ok :)
@Nican Wow, I actually didn't hear this one before. It's not on the OST. Apparently it's from the video game.
Thanks for that ;)
 
user1804599
@Ell You choose the job, you sign the contract.
 
Ell
@Zoidberg it is illegal tho
 
user1804599
It is your own fault that you agreed to the conditions.
 
Ell
that was not within the conditions
 
user1804599
11:26 PM
Then sue your employer.
 
user1804599
You know what's fun? Flowcharts, categories, and GADTs.
 
user1804599
I'll blog about that tomorrow.
 
Ell
Where is your blog?
I want to read it
 
Browsing through some old screenshots :P
 
11:41 PM
@Ell Not me. It fails basic common sense checks. If it were accurate then the guy would (a). be collecting proof and buying his freedom using lawyers (b). not be uppity about "being an enthusiastic guy". It's a bit too catered for a reddit audience IYAM. IANAL :)
I'd personally have demanded to get that phone sealed and turned in to the police.
Possibly then-and-there called 911 or whatever the appropriate number is for police assistance.
That is, of course, unless he made the recordings himself...
 
@StackedCrooked yeah ansatsu is pretty bad-ass; would be an epic twist should they find a way to save him
 
@Ell What also doesn't add up: he's quite the story teller (that "sinking feeling", uhuh) and has a way with words. It seems rather unlikely for someone to be so apt and skilled at word smithing (including all the surrounding conditions that will prevent the easy escapes, like penalties for courses taken) and yet lacking the common sense to see the boundaries of law and common sense.
> I signed something on my first day at work acknowledging that I did not have a presumption of privacy at work. I thought that meant in my office, which is a given. Boss says that because of the 24/7 on call policy they can extend the "no presumption of privacy" idea to wherever I'm "working" ie on call.
A little too well rounded and crafted to the (well made) point
 
Ell
hmm yeah
I suppose so
 
I'm giving like basic help out with the sol library.
I want to just link poeple to C++ books. .-.
 
11:59 PM
TIL a new English word: listless (from the anime title "Tanaka-kun is always listless")
 

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