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9:00 PM
> mfw eating cocaine
 
@MeltyButter more question marks might help
@MeltyButter you... only have time for... what now? You don't deserve the task then.
 
anyone here has solved "the trip" problem from Programming Challenges?
I'm in trouble with precision
using integers for money
Anyone may help me?
 
Thanks
 
9:16 PM
ok
 
I know it's all drama. But everytime I see something like this I worry more. #thenuclear https://t.co/hhXUwn9emv
 
I should stop following world politics again. It's way too depressing.
 
@thecoshman I see a cat. She's cheating.
@JerryCoffin Teaching a man how cheat feeds him for a lifetime, right :)
 
9:22 PM
@sehe cat's don't give a fuck, so it's still alone
seriously good song/poem
 
I disagree. My cat loves me
 
Cat loves us all
 
@sehe oh sure, cat's love you, but they don't give a fuck :P
 
@thecoshman I'd rather do my alone thing at home. Being alone elsewhere depresses me.
 
Being alone never bothered me. But that song depresses me
 
9:26 PM
@sehe Well, consider this, one day a nuclear warhead might detonating above your head and you won't even know why. :)
 
No matter what the message
@wilx You're using Trump grammar!
 
@wilx start simple
 
Do you also believe strongly? Believe in the nuclear? That's it's the first and foremost problem facing the nation?
 
@sehe Anymore, it might.
 
I want kitty \o/
 
9:28 PM
@sehe Nope. I am using wilx' late night tired grammar.
@thecoshman That won't work. She obviously does not have kids, I do. I am alone separate from people I love. She is alone because she is a recluse (or so it seems).
 
Makes me wonder. Is Trump just taking "The military" to it's logical twin? "The nuclear"
@wilx Sooo. Basically, your point is you're a victim more, so your problem can't be solved? (being the tough therapist here)
 
user1804599
sehe is the rapist
 
@sehe It won't work because it does not work. I have tried. I literally want to cry all the time when I am out. And I when I say literally, I mean it. Sometimes even tears swell in my eyes.
Being in, watching porn, shit on YouTube or programming makes it slightly more bearable.
 
Denial ☑
 
@sehe Denial of what?
 
9:39 PM
Reality
 
wants to kick @sehe in his hairy beary nuts!
 
Means it's working. Seriously. Don't lock yourself into ... well. Don't lock yourself in
 
user1804599
@wilx orgasm
 
I only say it because I think it's important. I have no reason to meddle, but since... gasp, I care a little I felt compelled to respond. Tell me to stop, and I'll drop it.
 
np
 
9:43 PM
evening gents
 
@wilx That is basically hiding from the 'problems'
'ning
 
@TonyTheLion How very sexist of you forgetting the other 32 sexes!
 
Tony The Amazing Exclusionist™
 
I sexually identify as a heisenbug
 
It was about time you finally came out of the closet. We all knew that for ages
 
9:50 PM
friendly floof /cc @Borgleader @ElimGarak @Ell @TonyTheLion @ThePhD @Xeo @набиячлэвэлиь
 
@wilx I'm sorry I forgot about all other 32 sexes. How could I possibly forget to mention every single one.
@jaggedSpire d'awwww
 
@TonyTheLion Your regret is not good enough. Bend over!
 
@MeltyButter also, imgur.com/gallery/tADaT apparently
 
user1804599
@sehe nice
 
10:10 PM
bitey floof /cc @Borgleader @ElimGarak @Ell @TonyTheLion @ThePhD @набиячлэвэлиь
 
that is cute
I saw an amazing floof earlier today IRL
 
@TonyTheLion :o
 
It literally fumbles my identifiers...
... Where do I even fucking begin.
 
auto where = std::begin(thephd);
 
kek
 
user1804599
10:16 PM
not funny
 
watch out guys, the fun police is here
 
to you maybe
but I liked it
 
I find this quite interesting:
 
@wilx nice colon
that : was indeed very interesting
 
10:21 PM
actually I think it's FUS RO DAH
not AH FU SO
 
Bark.
 
@ThePhD Meow. :3
 
Dies.
 
well I clearly have superpowers
Don't worry, @ThePhD I'll avenge you
brb things to do
 
Waaarrrgh
std::tuple_size doesn't have a null case q_q
 
10:26 PM
oh no did the bad wizards make you into a zombie
 
I wonder if C++ could ever become classified as a form of torture
 
point for me on the map where the bad wizards rezzed you
@TonyTheLion but it's fun
 
it's VC++ that's evil and should be outlawed
 
ok, but metaprogramming is some kind of medieval instrument of destruction, surely? :P
 
10:28 PM
but the most the most fun part of c++ is the insane, ill-advised hijinks
 
eh, its also the part where I lose all ability to think about the code
template metaprogramming confuses me sooooooooooooo much
 
Is there something that makes a tuple out of something that's not a tuple?
And leaves it alone if it's already a tuple?
 
you should do more of it until what is clear as day to you is cryptic wizardry to your coworkers
no but that seems easy to do
 
RIP easy of use.
 
just specialize the tuple-construction function so it does nothing for tuples
 
10:31 PM
R I P
But yeah I can write it just why isn't it part of like tuple_cat or somethin'.
 
Restfulness Is Peace
 
Oh yeah jagged how's work been going?
Are you still writing CSharppe?
 
@wilx heh. I sympathize with 99% of the opening para. Except: I'm not gay. You can be different enough and not be gay. Believe it or not.
 
yes
I'm probably going to continue working with it for the next few months at least
so I guess by the end of it I'll feel comfortable enough with it to put it on my resume
 
In my case the explanation is simple: grow up with just a mom and three older sisters. And you'll basically not have a clue what men are supposed to be like. For real.
 
10:33 PM
I also eventually found some okay-ish docs for part of the outlook interface
 
@sehe Well, I hope my kids will see enough of me to learn something.
 
What do I call a tuple_cat that forces tuples out of all of the arguments?
tuple_supreme?
 
sounds like a pizza
 
@wilx Good point right there. I got back in touch with my dad in 2013. It's really not "on". I have no clue how to approach that relation. I find relations strange enough when they're present and tangible
 
specifically the XML used to specify the GUI. Turns out there's a doctype for it, though the PDF they have on their website is years out of date and it still doesn't specify the callbacks you need
 
10:35 PM
XAML?
Or is it just some weird hackish XML?
 
some weird XML
it actually seems to have the proper xml structure. They just use the values for some of the attributes as a way to look up the name of the callback for specific actions, and the values of other attributes to supply the arguments to those callbacks
 
@sehe I know my father my whole life, I lived with him and my mother my whole non-adult life. We are not friends either, somehow. I respect him and sort of manly love him but we are not intimate at all.
 
Same with me for my mom, I guess
 
:28742329 Done.
 
really, I'd consider it pretty neat if there were actually really useful docs for it
 
10:38 PM
template <typename... X>
decltype(auto) tuplefy ( X&&... x ) {
	return std::tuple_cat(deail::force_tuple(x)...);
}
 
it's just the annoyance factor of poor documentation that irritates me
@ThePhD gg
 
@jaggedSpire That's like a good 50% of software tho.
 
suddenly I get where some people get the "it works now for the limited cases I've tested so I'm going to assume it's reliable even without any proof of intent or actual interface contract from the author" attitude from
 
:o
You've been broken in.
 
it's completely impossible to do otherwise when there's no proof of intent
 
10:41 PM
Poor, poor jagged.
 
really, the answer is to refuse to use APIs with shit documentation
 
Did you chose that API or did ~~Management~~?
 
if there isn't one, either document everything with extreme paranoia and lots of tests, or make your own goddamn API
@ThePhD Project manager decided the project needed an Outlook add-in, and getting access to any external tools for use in (rather than on) production code is a fucking nightmare so I couldn't use Outlook redemption
 
@jaggedSpire Are you doing WPF?
 
@Borgleader not yet
 
10:45 PM
 
are you saying I should wage war on shit documentation
by writing good documentation for APIs with shit documentation
 
get_table(L, std::get<I>(key))...;
Of course that doesn't compile.
 
@jaggedSpire no that was unrelated the the on-going conversation.
 
user3047181
@Borgleader now he's wet instead of her being wet. still the same amount of wetness. pointless.
 
Who would need to have a statement repeated several times for each of the elements in hte pack...
 
10:47 PM
@Borgleader oh good
 
@jaggedSpire "good" as if you weren't sharpening your spears
 
@ThePhD it's interesting that one of your arguments there is a capital letter. I'd thought those were types by convention
 
lua_State* L
 
Probably the only capital letter argument I have.
 
10:48 PM
rename as luaState, generate confusion
 
swallow{ 0, (get_table(L, std::get<I>(key)), 0)..., 0 };
AND NOW IT CAN WORK PROPERLY
Fucking VC++.
Fucking C++.
Fuck the standard.
 
do chars instead, for great amusement
 
At one point VC++ had a bogus stack alignment error
 
fun
 
so I had to actually use chars and word-align the char allocations.
It was stupid as piss.
 
10:53 PM
@ThePhD how? I think I had this issue too
 
@slaphappy For array allocations on the stack? It was a VS 2013 (+November CTP)-only error for me.
 
@MeltyButter its pointless only because you missed the point :)
 
@MeltyButter Hah! That is what I thought this appeared here some time ago. I self-censored not to stir shit up!
:)
 
@ThePhD also I'm pretty sure you don't need the trailing 0
 
@jaggedSpire M U H S A F E T Y.
 
11:01 PM
 
wao
initializer_list
Living on the edge.
 
you can and it just constructs the array you were using anyhow
and actually, do you need the spacer when you have the initializer list? hmm
the initial spacer is there to prevent construction of zero-sized arrays but initializer lists have a default constructor
ooh
I just thought of using inializer list, you see
shiny
you don't need it if you use the init-list
+1 code clarity
still heavily in the negatives, rpg-modifier wise, but hey
(void)expander{(print(t), '\0')...}; be nice to get ride of the void cast too
or, before that, the '\0'
 
HHrm.
Guess I need to rewrite all the swallow code, then.
You need the (void) cast for g++, right?
Wonder if I can sneak that into the using...
 
11:16 PM
it's because it would be an unused result otherwise, and I like to be warning-free
please do check this works for VC++ before rewriting too much
 
ON IT B O S S
 
I've had it give me an integer overflow narrowing conversion error before when expanding a pack in an initializer list
and clang also issues a warning for an unused result, as a side note
the narrowing conversion was one of 2013's many faults though
hopefully they fixed it
 
"Introspection: Less satisfying than meatbags." Oh HK-55...
 
I prefer HK-47 due to an arbitrary decision I made just now
why did they even keep making those droids
 
But but... 55 is bigger than 47.
Bigger is better right?
 
11:24 PM
47 is the original flavor of deadly snark*
*for droids in the expanded universe
at least I'm hoping that the models below 47 were not as blatantly homicidal
 
Being homocidal is kindof an intrinsic feature of assassination robots
 
yes but you could try to make them solemn actually with the way droids act like people you don't want a solemn bot that's too close to zealotry never mind
assassin droids who think it's funny to kill people are far better
and you know that's not a sentence I imagined myself typing outside of a dark room in a bunker behind legions of minions
or ever
let's go with ever
 
meh, I am fixing my PC today ... almost got used to mac ...
 
Goodness... the things I'm doing to make this code fast...
 
but I need to fix the hard disk, too much useful info on there
 
11:32 PM
All without just writing some C or Assembly.
 
@ThePhD right now
 
Well, there we go. traverse_get is a go.
Hopefully it's faster.
Hopefully.
 
Ell
^can anyone identify the song?
the link is supposed to be time 47 seconds 0 minutes
 
> The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
 
If it's not then there's one more thing that I know would be better than this, and then it'll be back to the benchmarks.
 
11:38 PM
quick question for everyone:
 
Yes, you may eat Borgleader's soul.
 
where the hell did I put my second knitting needle
 
can you knit me sth
 
@ThePhD curiously, not what I was planning to ask
 
In the eye of those voodoo dolls you made a few weeks ago.
 
11:39 PM
@AlexM. not without two knitting needles
@ThePhD what which voodoo dolls :3
 
user3790646
Good evening :)
 
good eventide
 
Congratulations on acquiring your very own meatbag-hating snark machine
 
@Andrey Good evenout
 
user3790646
11:40 PM
I'm so anxious for the next three days, I'm going to do an entrance exam for an university :D
 
@jaggedSpire As you can see I havent been getting much sleep these days. Terrifying the galaxy is srs bzns
 
@Borgleader :)
 
user3790646
Is anyone going to wish me good luck?
 
I'm going to wish you good fun instead
if you're having fun with the exam you know you're doing well because you can turn it into your plaything
so TIL that chat conversations are stored not with IDs like the rest of stuff on SO, but by title
weird
 
user3790646
@jaggedSpire Okay, thanks :)
 
11:47 PM
@Borgleader is the some explanation for this or is it a photoshop?
nvm if it weren't a shop there would be more than one pic on google for "captain picard rainbow hat"
 

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