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4:02 PM
@milleniumbug: hi
 
@sehe which one is that?
 
@sehe: Hi
 
@MadameElyse what?
@Rerito it's called ESN now
 
guys, dont answer i wanna see if he pings anyone else
 
@thecoshman it's the one named hipchat
 
4:20 PM
I think some of us tried HipChat once
 
Interesting fact is that ESNs are often blatantly illegal, but this model is advantageous for everyone save employees, so they are tolerated
 
oooh that one... why you about that @sehe?
@набиячлэвэлиь that's an irc client, not a platform
 
the BladeRunner one is cool /cc @JerryCoffin
 
4:23 PM
@TonyTheLion french consultancy model
 
oh right
 
Reading gamedev papers
 
@ThePhD <3 /cc @TonyTheLion
 
@TonyTheLion they be stealing muh dollers
 
@Borgleader <3 <3 <3
 
4:26 PM
"How can test games".
 
for years
 
These boost github repos
are fucking uuuuuseless.
 
@ThePhD suits you
 
@thecoshman It does not suit me. :<
I want to maek it so I can git pull and then build
But noooo, Boost has never ACTUALLY been made Modular
Fuckin' [grumbe grumble grumble]
Guess I'll just make my own repo after using b2.
 
Ven
@slaphappy ESN=SSII?
 
4:31 PM
... These instructions are not clear.
 
@ThePhD bcp is the way to go
 
@Ven yeah
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Does the .exe come with the boost zip or do I need to download / build it?
 
@ThePhD Build it, it's in tools/bcp
 
RIP.
jam2 or w/e?
 
4:32 PM
@ThePhD Dunno, I just build it manually
'Cause I'm a masochist
 
.-.
 
g++ -c *.cpp -obcp -isystem../.. and then link it to the relevant boost libraries
 
in soviet boost the source code builds the build tool
 
They did it again in Go 1.6 RC 1! https://t.co/njb4wwCI1C
Neato
 
@Borgleader Nice. Thanks.
 
4:45 PM
@ThePhD Wot
 
Ell
wow
 
@CatPlusPlus I'm probably dumb again then. Nothing new.
 
user1804599
5:06 PM
> Der Hamburger Informatik-Professor Thomas Strothotte fordert die Einführung von Arabisch als Schulsprache in Deutschland!

Das würde einen Zugang zur arabischen Welt ermöglichen, schreibt der Präsident der Hamburger Kühne Logistics University in der „Zeit“.

Deutsch und Arabisch sollten für alle Schüler bis zum Abitur verpflichtend sein. „Wir würden damit anerkennen, ein Einwanderungsland und eine mehrsprachige Gesellschaft zu sein.“
 
user1804599
lol
 
user1804599
what a moron
 
user1804599
For A) thinking that people want to learn Arabic, and B) for thinking that people can learn completely new languages in a few lessons in school.
 
sup lounge
I'm now building string encoding sheets, should I embed them inside the source code as static array, or put them in a file and read it as a dynamic data structure ?
 
read it
 
5:14 PM
Ahahaha
That's pretty brilliant
 
@thecoshman why not?
@Columbo it is
 
what ever
@Columbo that's too fun
 
Xeo
om nom nom steak
 
@Xeo I have manly salad again
maybe steak tomorrow
 
Xeo
make a steak salad!
 
5:25 PM
well, it's tasty chicken bits
 
@thecoshman yeah precisely
 
Xeo
that's good too
 
windows sucks...
 
@JABFreeware brace for rant impact?
 
the salad itself is a little gem lettece, thin carrot sticks, sweet corn, olives, and tonight I will remember to add some red onion too
 
Xeo
5:27 PM
@JABFreeware Interesting. Don't tell me more.
@thecoshman bleh olives
also, where's the cheese?
 
and I'll be a bit more generous with the the olive oil and balsamic
 
@melak47 Oh I could rant about it all day especially when IIS is fucking me over.
but I will spare you guys' sensitive ears.
 
@Xeo I had a load of feta recently, fancied a break, and don't really know any other good salad cheese
 
Xeo
mozzarella?
@thecoshman shredded anything?
most cheeses do quite well in salads
 
yeah, just wasn't feeling cheese for this
and wtf man, olives are tasty
 
Xeo
5:29 PM
aaaaand that's it for the steak. sniff.
 
huh?
 
olives are gross they taste like death
 
Xeo
@thecoshman finished my steak :(
 
shouldnt that be a :) ?
 
Xeo
no, because it's gone now and I don't have more
 
5:30 PM
@Xeo you were on here whilst eating?
 
Xeo
@thecoshman yeah?
 
@thecoshman addict detected!
 
lol, food is more important
 
lol, no
 
user1804599
 
5:31 PM
chatting, talking on the phone, fixing a computer, and eating all at the same time is the most extensive multitasking I have done.
 
@MadameElyse lol
 
@MadameElyse but but... I should be able to steal a car and not get shot because.... I'M BLACK!!!! This never happens to white boys!
 
...wtf
 
a slightly altered quote I actually heard somewhere...sad
 
@JABFreeware inb4 in hospital, having bites of motherboard removed from your stomach.
 
user1804599
5:36 PM
The people who commit crimes that should be shot should be 50% whites and 50% blacks.
 
user1804599
Also preferably 50% men and 50% women.
 
@MadameElyse what about kids? :D
 
no one should be shot except if posing immediate danger to another person
 
user1804599
There were lots of cops and soldiers in Amsterdam today.
 
@MartinJames nah it was the SSD... couldn't risk the feds breaking the encryption ya know...
 
5:38 PM
@MadameElyse It should vary with the seasons.
 
user1804599
And probably lots more undercover.
 
user1804599
It felt safe.
 
why?
 
user1804599
Probably due to high number of terrorists and high threat level.
 
user406009
@MadameElyse the problem with that poster is that there are still cases of provable discrimination against blacks. For instance there was a study where people did not interview candidates with black sounding names.
 
5:39 PM
@slaphappy yeah I agree. And tbh way too often the police push people (regardless of race) to endanger others. Police chases are a prime example...rarely is it truly necessary.
 
user1804599
The poster does not call for ignoring discrimination against blacks.
 
user1804599
It calls for not ignoring discrimination against whites.
 
In summer, when days are long blacks are easier to see than whites and so are easier to target. Similarly, in winter, days are short and so it's easer to shoot whites.
 
@MadameElyse yup
 
@MartinJames but what about the snow
 
5:40 PM
..unless it's snowing, which may expain the discrepancies.
 
user1804599
Coat the snow black.
 
user1804599
As a special case, in Chinatowns it should be 100% Asians.
 
@Lalaland "Who's next?", "Mr. Black" ?
 
Pro Tip: If you don't modify the induction variable in your loop, you're going to have a bad time.
 
user1804599
 
5:43 PM
Ok. I'll admit it.
I don't know what James is hinting at there ^^
 
user1804599
Lol, this looks so weird between the other buildings.
 
@MadameElyse rotten timing
 
user406009
@sehe probably complaining about accidental infinite loops.
 
In computer science, an induction variable is a variable that gets increased or decreased by a fixed amount on every iteration of a loop, or is a linear function of another induction variable. For example, in the following loop, i and j are induction variables: == Application to strength reduction == A common compiler optimization is to recognize the existence of induction variables and replace them with simpler computations; for example, the code above could be rewritten by the compiler as follows, on the assumption that the addition of a constant will be cheaper than a multiplication. ...
 
user406009
5:44 PM
Which crash in a really bad way.
 
@Lalaland Yeah, that.
 
user1804599
for (int i = 0; i < 10; ++i)
         ^ introduction variable
                ^ induction variable
                          ^ incrementation variable
 
@Lalaland oh... he meant implicit modification too. I hold the opposite guideline: if your loop is explicitly modifying the loop variable, you're probably in need of a proper algorithm
 
> SIC PARVIS MAGNA I say the exact same thing to all the LADY’S!!!!
(from the comments here)
10/10
 
5:46 PM
really funny.
 
user1804599
<topology>that is NOT a knot</topology>
 
@sehe I completely agree.
 
user1804599
Topology is fascinating.
 
user406009
@MadameElyse have you seen the stuff about turning a sphere inside out?
 
user1804599
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
5:52 PM
@CatPlusPlus The modular boost isn't really modular: they never actually established the core base of boost and separatedit out from the rest of "boost".
 
You still need to get all of boost, and then bcp it to separate.
 
Modular doesn't mean "absolutely no interdependencies"
 
Xeo
1 message moved to bin
you know the rules.
 
The Rule of @Xeo (coined by Summerlad)
 
Xeo
5:59 PM
lol
 
@ThePhD Boost.Core
 
@ThePhD whats the "core base" of boost?
 
More discoland fun, in which discodevs do not get words yet again meta.discourse.org/t/…
 
I ate
mcdonald's food
 
@AlexM. what pushed you into it?
 
6:13 PM
I haven't had any in months
wanted to eat again once
 
@CatPlusPlus TL;DR
 
if I had to go for fast food burger, I wouldn't settle for McDonalds, they have the worst processed meat, which is beside the huge amount of sauce they use, is a pretty dry piece of rubber .. BurgerKing is ok though
 
@milleniumbug discodevs are bad debelopers
And also sysadmins unsurprisingly
Also dischorse is 200% shit
If you ever wondered how to badly fuck up a collection of collections of text blobs viewable over HTTP this is the place to look
 
@xeo ah, I have some chedder, not the best, but now you got me wanting some cheese :D
 
user406009
Cheddar is the best cheese.
 
6:22 PM
Pirate's Booty is a puffed rice and corn snack food produced by BG Foods, Inc. BG Foods, Inc. acquired Robert's American Gourmet in June 2013. The snack was developed by commodities trader Robert Ehrlich. He would often watch people purchasing Cheese Puffs in a local supermarket. The snack, Ehrlich explained, did not have "any real cheese in them...most of the ingredients you couldn't even pronounce." The snack is made with corn meal, rice and cheddar cheese. Pirate Brands also has a number of other similar snack products, including baked, gluten free snacks called Smart Puffs, and crunchy corn...
 
I have more and more custom comparators, but the next comparator I write will be even uglier than the previous ones.
 
@Morwenn Put some make-up on 'em
 
@набиячлэвэлиь I will just put it in namespace detail and avoid to document it.
 
@MadameElyse I haven't touched my parser since December or something.
 
6:28 PM
Once we have modules, hiding ugly things will be easier.
 
I'll use them to hide my face by then.
 
General programming question: Can I do parallel programming on a background thread?
 
@M312V Probably. I think you need to clarify your question/terminology...
 
^
usually you do parallel programming on multiple threads
hence the well yknow, parallelism >.>
 
6:37 PM
parallel programs are parallel
 
I have api calls uses parallel stuff, and they work when called from a ui thread, but doesn't when called from a background thread.
 
@Borgleader Unless vector parallelism.
 
So it makes the ui less responsive.
 
@Morwenn not really what id call parallel programming, but sure
 
actually, unresponsive =(.
 
6:39 PM
@Borgleader Well, it may not be concurrent but it's still parallel.
 
So... useless if I want responsive UI?
 
@M312V How many threads do you have available?
 
> As this does not happen on Safari/iOS or Chrome/Android this is by definition a Friefox for Android bug. Markup is identical in all 3 cases.
 
4 cores
 
> by definition
 
6:42 PM
ikr
 
what about standards or undefined behaviour
 
this is why webdev bothers me
 
tbf there's no UB in CSS because that'd be dumb
Like, really dumb
 
@M312V So you have a UI thread and a background thread. The UI thread can make calls to functions that do parallel stuff but the background thread can't?
 
6:43 PM
That's correct @daps
@caps
 
daps pls
 
haha
 
There's not enough information there to help you, sorry.
 
The only time I was restricted by a UI thread was when I was working with WPF. Do C++ UI frameworks also have this UI thread concept?
 
user406009
@Borgleader Most GUI frameworks have the UI thread concept.
 
6:44 PM
Every UI has a UI thread concept
 
@caps that's helpful enough. I just wanted to know that it should work before I waste more time trying to make it work.
I'
 
user406009
@Borgleader Supposedly it is almost impossible to write a correct multithreaded GUI framework without deadlock.
 
I'll do separate testing.
 
There is absolutely no reason or even real way to make UIs multithreaded
UIs idle most of the time in the event loop
And it's far easier to just serialise updates onto one thread since having multiple doesn't give you any benefit anyway
 
Sorry, I failed to mention I'm doing interop.
I'll try it on a pure c++ app.
 
6:46 PM
if you can do async stuff, I'd guess there is a thread model
 
Thanks!
 
how does that work
 
Escalator temporarily stairs
 
user1804599
Hello, world!
 
@AlexM. It works diagon-alley.
 
6:57 PM
@AlexM. Hilbert Hotel, every floor number that is modulus 9 move to the next 6th floor
 
here's a nice album to listen to
 
7:13 PM
@AlexM. Yeeeeees *-*
 
@Puppy I bought a USB stick with advertised 180 MB/s write speed, but my benchmarks say 40 MB/s. My motherboard has USB3 and is fairly new. WTF
 
Ell
@fredoverflow get a refund!
 
hard drive?
 
Samsung SSD 830
 
user1804599
Abe's Oddysee is even more fun than before.
 
user1804599
7:16 PM
In HD.
 
Ell
@MadameElyse woah
oh wait
 
@Ell Hm, probably not worth the trouble. I'm used to 4 MB/s, so 40 MB/s is still quite an improvement for me ;)
 
any other things going on?
the bus can be shared between other hardware parts IIRC
 
user1804599
@Ell PC remake
 
Ell
I thought oddysee = exodus for a minute :(
I have oddysee remake
 
user1804599
7:16 PM
 
@fredoverflow eh advertised things are done with specific benchmarking tools in specific situations and are often misleading
 
Ell
but exodus is better :(
 
just read reviews
after the kingston ssd crap kingston showed some very particular benchmarking that showed the results they advertised and said that's why they advertised those
even tho everyone got 50% of that with their ssds
 
@AlexM. ...It's a Kingston USB stick, btw :D
 
kingston is bad ye
btw I also have one of those bad ssds
50% of the advertised speed
but it's still fast so I don't complain
 
7:18 PM
I thought I'd buy the ultimate badass USB stick :(
 
it would be silly to complain now after almost 3 years
 
At least the stick seems to be compatible with my TV :)
I bought a Transcend 16 GB stick once which isn't recognized by my TV, and it takes 2 minutes for my laptop to start booting from it. Smells fishy.
 
bread!
nvm it's not bread
reddit lied to me
they're figurines
fuck you reddit wow
 
Ven
aawwww :(
 
Ell
@AlexM. I wonder how I can lol that's funny
I thought it was meringue when I first looked
before considering that they were figurines at all
 
7:27 PM
lol my undodir needs like 15 seconds to be read
 
@EtiennedeMartel Coolness. Macro it for the next time we get one of our return vampires
 
this guy's channel is nice
for example this video
 
7:50 PM
Today in the future proposals forum: Folding functions almost perfect
Haha, no.
 
@milleniumbug That is utter shite
he can't make any point or say anything without terrible music and colours
 
@Puppy But that's the whole point.
 
that just makes it a terrible point
 
@Puppy Which is pretty much what I expected
otherwise I'd read a book
 
you could just watch non-terrible videos
or play games
or make things
 
7:57 PM
@Puppy You do know that deliberately trying to look like shit is a legitimate way to make art, right?
And that it's also an effective way to make humor?
 
@EtiennedeMartel According to whom? If you look like shit, you look like shit. If that was your intention, then congratulations, but that doesn't make it less shit.
 
For the most part, that video made me laugh quite a bit. And I'm fairly sure it made a lot of people laugh judging from the like/dislike ratio.
 
that means absolutely nothing to me
 
You could say it's shit, but that's like, your opinion, man.
 
I believe I did, in a quite literal sense.
 
7:58 PM
@Puppy so does your opinion
 
Ell
don't you know puppy only knows fact
 
right here
4 mins ago, by Puppy
@milleniumbug That is utter shite
 
@Ell He does have a tendency to mix up fact and opinion, yes.
 
meh
the infinite majority of everything everybody says is an opinion.
eternally prepending a disclaimer is a waste of time
 
whatever
 

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