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Ell
7:01 PM
@BartekBanachewicz very hacker, bhartekh
 
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@milleniumbug euclid(geom).
 
> GHC stage restriction
I need to grep my shell for that and play a "car-hitting-a-wall" sound everytime this appears
 
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i'm no organ donor but i’d be happy to give you my heart
@TonyTheLion <3
 
7:14 PM
@elyse how would const(auto) work?
 
I just hugged my cat to calm him down and stop from killing the other cat
btw Diana is leaving tomorrow
I'm pretty happy about that
 
Bartek is that peacetalking motherhugger we should've sent to the Middle East.
 
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@AndyProwl Inspect constness of callees.
 
how very nazi of you
 
@elyse like, deduce if a function is const based on its body?
 
7:16 PM
state mutation can't be that difficult to detect, rite? :P
 
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@AndyProwl YES! :D
 
@BartekBanachewicz is diana the other cat or your pussy?
 
it's the cat on two legs
 
@sehe the other cat yes
 
ok
 
7:18 PM
I think Imbir is going to take it pretty well
he's, how'd ya call it
 
not a drama queen
 
an egoist perhaps
@sehe unlike his owner(s)
 
...
 
After I come back from the store, I think I will attempt to parse nested multi line comments using a recursive rule (in spirit x3).
see if thats possible
 
7:22 PM
aren't nested multiline comments just 1 multiline comment
// //aaa <- just one comment
 
@Borgleader yes it is
 
@AlexM. No. if you have /* /* ... */ */ the comment goes from the first /* to the first */, the second */ is "dangling"
 
@sehe still just 1 comment
/*
/*
*/
*/
that happens to enclose something that looks like a multiline comment
 
@AlexM. trololol
to answer your question: no
 
ok
 
user1804599
7:25 PM
> Donate half a million euros to support OpenSSL development.
 
user1804599
Horrible idea.
 
hey haskell guys
 
is that on your bucket list
 
How do I (\x -> [x]) <$> f in a cleaner way
 
user1804599
No, of course not. I'm not a moron.
 
user1804599
7:26 PM
Stimulating cargo culting is a terrible idea.
 
why did you quote it?
@elyse that's not what they do
They have a poor sense of priorities though
@ScottW banned, burned and binned
 
user1804599
I want to sake moftware.
 
I was thinking about (:[]) <$> f
but that looks like a duck face
and I don't want duck faces in my code
 
user1804599
Donating to OpenSSL is like donating to TempleOS.
 
isn't repeat also a -> [a]
it generates an infinite list potentially tho
 
7:27 PM
@BartekBanachewicz with a crooked bow tie (and left-carrying?)
 
isn't repeat lazily infinite
 
yes nvm
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz eww no space after infix operator.
 
what's a list with one element? singleton list?
write a function named singletonize :A
 
user1804599
Also singleton.
 
7:28 PM
a simple/single
 
singlelton
 
where are all the interesting questions at?
 
@FilipRoséen-refp what is love?
 
I'm bloody bored, waiting for an album to be downloaded - stranded at the office
@AlexM. the feeling that bubbles inside of me when I think of my girlfriend
cheesy answer? surely. accurate? I think so.
 
7:30 PM
don't hurt m...
wait you got the lyrics wrong
 
@AlexM. still thinking about the "reach into the bits of a variable declared constexpr" btw, there must be something I've missed in the standard, good thing compilers have actually gotten really good to see when you do something that is violating the lvalue to rvalue conversion rules
@AlexM. oh, I.. sorry man
baby don't hurt me <queue>, don-
ey man, you missed your mark..
I thought we were doing a duet?
gcc even (sometimes) obeys the rules of layout-compatible and standard-layout
that's quite impressing actually, mostly because I've been waiting for this for too long
 
@ScottW starrrit yes, really
 
yeah, colors are fucking serious business
 
@ScottW <3
 
@ScottW dawg, fo'shizzle
 
7:34 PM
straight out of conston
 
lol
now now scott, you were going to see a doctor weren't you
 
@ScottW douz colors man, yeeeeez. we need to get some of that
 
lol
 
new music on the phone, time to hit the subway
peace 'ombres!
 
I'm having lots of fun with haskell, even tho I'm slow as fuck
 
7:36 PM
but do admire those colors, damn Damn DAAAMN
 
@FilipRoséen-refp cya, good luck with the thing
 
show columbo who's da boss <3
 
for those who didn't get the reference
@AlexM. I certainly don't think it's impossible, the standard is written by humans, and humans make mistakes, unless you are dead - dead people don't make too many mistakes
 
"You bite the fry, the fry bites back"
ahahahah
 
7:38 PM
@ElimGarak you should watch the original video, it's gold (not literally, that'd be kinda weird).
3 hours ago, by Tony The Lion
> when we finally have fast module based compilation i will dip bjarne's bald head in oil and rub it all over my body
 
@FilipRoséen-refp that's sooooo photoshoppable
 
@TonyTheLion the head or the oil?
 
Oh, now just the kind of question that just makes me wish I knew VB so I could answer.
-1
Q: Need Help Deadline in Class approaching Fast!! Visual Basic Programming

K.WarriorI am Doing an assignment and cannot figure it out someone who may be fast a good as doing this could probably figure it out fast for me. I have a range of years from 2000 - 2025 and I have to be able to put in any starting date (Four digit Year, two digit Month, two digit Day, and 2 digit militar...

 
where the fcuk is LRiO when you need him? he could have turned that sentence into "you are misusing the English language, I will now smite you with the words given to me by the dictionary in my head"
 
@JerryCoffin thanks for the idea stackoverflow.com/questions/33088906/…
 
7:41 PM
@JerryCoffin I know a bit of VBA, but it doesn't help
 
@sehe surprise me. you got about an hour until I'm at my flat!
ploff
 
nah
 
> not in scope: type constructor or class ‘Number’
um
 
user1804599
SSCCE
 
@AlexM. Oh, now a feel badly. People are picking on the lazy prick poor guy!
 
7:45 PM
also reading GHC's AST bits related to record handling make me wanna puke
 
@AlexM. Let's be professionals and learn to say "No" :P
 
user1804599
Read psc's sources instead.
 
please kill haskell records
 
user1804599
They're really nice.
 
user1804599
And PureScript records are nice. :P
 
user1804599
7:45 PM
They're like OCaml records.
 
@AndyProwl I'll try
 
We should treat managers with stupid deadlines like help vampires with stupid questions
 
what are records
 
Ell
what's wrong with haskell records?
 
@Ell what's not wrong in them?
 
Ell
7:46 PM
you can store data in them
 
Ell
why poorly?
 
Have you ever tried to update a field in a Haskell record?
 
user1804599
At least they're not as bad as Erlang records.
 
I mean it's not like updating a record field is a terribly hard or complex operation
 
7:48 PM
@ElimGarak: Funny to see DS9 showing events in 2024 and she's using a flip-phone and a CRT the size of a fridge
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz if I knew why they were bad, why would I be asking? :P
 
@Ell TL;DR you need metagenerated lenses for them to make them usable
so in essence they only serve as a syntax extension for lens generation
now tell me why my code doesn't see types I've imported
conP is supposed to be used for data patterns right
 
Ell
"updating" seems like a stateful thing anyway
isn't the functional thing to do return a new record with a different field value?
 
@Puppy Yeah, they didn't expect we'd overturn most of 24th century tech by 2010 :D
 
also
I just realized that O'Brien is a complete moron.
his 10 tries could have searched a thousand possibilities with a binary search
 
7:51 PM
@Ell and how would you create said new record
 
instead of just picking at random
 
Well, he is an enlisted man, he didn't graduate from Starfleet Academy and hence is not formally an officer :D
 
um it works for [|Number|] but doesn't for ''Number
I still don't get how this quoting thing works
 
Ell
I'm not sure really
 
He also eats the most shit in DS9. Writers had this internal memo called "O'Brien must suffer"
 
7:53 PM
@Ell I'll give you a hint: copy the old one, modify what you need, return.
 
Ell
let p = Person "Hank" "Marvin"
let k = Person (first p) ("McDonald")
there you go
 
@ElimGarak Yeah, he seems to routinely suffer maximally.
 
Ell
just return the new one straight away :P
 
user1804599
let p = Person "Hank" "Marvin"
let k = p { lastName = "McDonald" }
 
@Ell yeah, now you only need to repeat every field you're not changing, everywhere you're using the record and changing just one thing
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz how is that different to copying & modifying each time?
 
@Ell see a) what Elyse wrote
 
user1804599
You can do that in Haskell. :v
 
user1804599
I showed actual Haskell code. :v
 
let p = Person "Hank" "Marvin"
let k = p & lastName .~ "McDonald"
@elyse so did I.
 
7:56 PM
@BartekBanachewicz hey I can understand this
it's how I'd do it because atm lenses are the only things I know how to use :A
 
@AlexM. have you used Lenses already? :)
 
I used lenses to change an element in a list easily
 
@AlexM. Did you try out the stateful ones as well?
 
user1804599
I wish lenses didn't try to be functions.
 
@elyse they aren't?
 
user1804599
7:57 PM
They are.
 
Just (vars & ix varIndex .~ (varName, exprResult))
EZ 2 update variable values when interpreting assignments
 
user1804599
type Lens s t a b = forall f. Functor f => (a -> f b) -> s -> f t
 
Good job Alex :)
you're moving really fast so far
 
user1804599
The error messages are horrendous because of this nonsense.
 
@elyse meh, I mostly use Simple Lens anyway
 
user1804599
7:58 PM
What is Simple Lens?
 
Simple Lens s a = Lens s s a a
 
Previous to Past Tense, there was tribunal, when he was tried on Cardassia (where you're guilty from the start and the trial is for public spectacle before the execution)
 
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I like Monocle.
 
Next one comes towards the end of season 4. Man, I know every episode of every season of every Star Trek by heart.
 
@ElimGarak I kinda liked that episode too, it was a great insight into how terribly broken Cardassian society was.
 
user1804599
8:00 PM
@BartekBanachewicz same problems.
 
@BartekBanachewicz meeh I'm at the most boring part now
 
Except TOS AND TAS. Those two I can't stand
 
dragging myself through it
(parsing strings and turning them into ASTs)
 
although I'll tell you that I felt bad for Vedek Bareil, seems to me like he took the fall for Kai Opaka who actually did completely the right thing.
@ElimGarak TAS? Animated?
 
Yeah, terribru animated
 
8:01 PM
@AlexM. I could help you if you had Parsec. I hate writing parsers by hand :/. You should take a look at that polyparse thing if it's available though.
 
Kai Winn goes on my nerves so hard. I'd love to stomp her condescending snot.
I love to hate Gul Dukat, tho.
 
[p| ... |], where the "..." is a pattern; the quotation has type Q Pat.
Ooooooh
Weapons upgraded
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'll just do it by hand, at least I'm making progress
 
I am a huge fan of Star Trek, yet Kirk and Spock mean nothing to me. If they weren't referenced in TNG+, I wouldn't even consider them as canon.
 
I'm done tokenizing it, I'll do shunting yard to turn it into RPN then build an expression tree out of it
ezpz
 
Ell
8:04 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I don't get how this is better than what @elyse wrote?
 
@BartekBanachewicz clunky reload sound
 
@ElimGarak Dukat is awesome.
 
Ell
StarTreK
 
user1804599
@Ell it isn't.
 
@Borgleader <3
 
8:05 PM
@Ell nested records.
 
I think that he wins practically every scene he's in
 
user1804599
But it is when you have nested structures.
 
he just teleports in, announces that he's Gul Dukat, and then that's that.
 
@Puppy well ain't that just terribly deep
 
Kira wants him so bad and she hates herself for if :D
 
8:06 PM
well, he's an awesome badass, but also a mass murderer
 
user1804599
Compare a { x = (x a) { y = (y (x a)) { z = 2 } } } with a & x . y . z .~ 2.
 
I love when Sisko gives angry rants!
 
Sisko does tend to become quite angry from time to time
 
That's not the point. This whole mission has been a waste of resources, men and equipment. The blame lies with the man who ordered it in the first place, not the man who tried to carry it out!
Oh, how I miss DS9...
Funny enough, Sisko is slang here for a man with boobs.
 
8:11 PM
O.o
looks through brain Why?
 
> Couldn't match expected type ‘[PatQ]’ with actual type ‘Q [Pat]’
 
Sisa je boob.
Sisa is boob*.
 
oh, that makes sense now
 
Also, dojka = sisa
 
Expected as much
 
8:15 PM
Baci sisu da se igramo is a chant about guys requesting a female to throw them a boob so they may play with it.
Charming nation.
 
lol Hrvatski jazyk
 
Ah, yes. Jazyk. But it is jezik here.
 
wergh local variations of language
 
oookey
I've constructed a list of patterns
but I can't extract names to pass further to the function
 
I'm proud of yeh, young one
 
8:19 PM
Have you tried bbq sauce?
 
but
that's not the real problem
the real problem is
can I construct a list of argument types at compile time and pass it
 
@ElimGarak Who is this question directed at?
 
@BartekBanachewicz it's like there's no documentation for it or examples lol
everything's in parsec
 
I've just noticed that Bartek is actually a form of 'bar tek, a spoken shorthand of dobar tek, which translates to bon appetit. So basically, Bartek is really Bon appetit, you who chews on bananas.
 
I don't have children but I've already got this dad joke stuff perfected. Wouldnt you agree @ThePhD ?
@ElimGarak I need this :)
 
8:29 PM
@ElimGarak let toPatName p = liftM2 (,) p (pure $ mkName "x")
I'm not human, silly.
I write Haskell.
 
8:48 PM
also is using Applicative instance for functions considered bad
I'm drowning in TH
send help
 
@Borgleader lol, took a little while to notice the 'Ohms' setting:)
 

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