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user406009
10:02 PM
@BartekBanachewicz It's not too bad once you use ES6 + static typing from either TypeScript or Flow Types.
 
user406009
With a very strict linter.
 
@Lalaland this is just the tip of the iceberg seriously
ok seriously this is p cool
 
what's cool about that?
the part where you need to create an account and download a whole bunch of xcode crap?
 
ubuntu has that all along. Only (luckily) not with braindead modal popus
 
or the part where gcc is aliased to calling clang
 
10:14 PM
@Prismatic that it actually bridges the shell, low-level world with the normal iface
@sehe I like the popup
 
or the part where java suggests to download the whole jdk. Of ancient java 6
 
@Prismatic you don't need to do that
you can just get cmdline tools
which i just did
 
I actually think that having gui pop ups from the console is bad
 
because?
 
Yeah. This is UI design no-no. Years of windows (and even some Gnome efforts) should have told these people that doing popups from CLI environments is not ok
 
10:16 PM
ditto
why isn't it ok?
 
Good luck on ssh
 
Part of my problem is that you're using a CLI which creates a GUI pop up
 
Good luck in a script
 
on SSH it behaves differently, duh
 
Good luck with focus stealing
 
10:16 PM
ssh bartek@192.168.178.14
gcc test.c
Booting X server...
"Do you want to install gcc?"
 
@sehe you can act differently in all those situations
 
user406009
@orlp Incorrect. It should be ssh bartek@127.0.0.1
 
nothing wrong with the dialog per se
 
@Lalaland the point of the example was SSH'ing into a server machine without an X server running
 
user406009
I have already verified that that command works and I am compiling stuff on barteks computer as we speak.
 
10:18 PM
@Prismatic which is bad because
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, and you need to do special wizardry to get it to shut up in your scripts
 
@BartekBanachewicz No. The issue is with it showing up by default
 
@BartekBanachewicz You're jumping between two kinds of interfaces
 
when I start having problems with it I'll let you know
 
10:18 PM
:D
 
@Prismatic I don't see it as a problem at all
@sehe note that it's not "if"
 
Its like, you already have a clean interface on the terminal and you know the person is using the keyboard. Why force them to now use a mouse and read information using a different visual presentation? What does the dialog box get you that the console couldn't provide?
 
@Prismatic who forces you to use a mouse
you can use keyboard to handle the dialog just fine
 
fair enough
 
@Borgleader Can you renderdoc and tell me all the functions that your sponza drawer calls for its window initialization?
 
10:23 PM
@BartekBanachewicz sometimes. Not on windows, usually. Especially not since UAC and DWM
 
> Homebrew formulae are simple Ruby scripts:
uh
@sehe wut. I'm pretty sure UAC popups can be handled with keyboard
 
Ruby is hipster.
Hipsters be OSX
 
@sehe All popups of all kinds can be handled with a keyboard
 
this is too dumbfounded to be serious
 
@BartekBanachewicz They can. But you need to manually force focus
@набиячлевэлиь Certainly not true
 
10:24 PM
everyone knows ruby isn't hipster anymore
 
Don't say it near a rubbyist
 
@sehe (...that were not created by absolute morons)
 
oh cool
§brew§ has ghc 7.10 and cabal 1.22
also uh this is not tilde
where's my tilde
brew
ueh
 
is brew good
 
I think so
 
user406009
10:27 PM
Nice. I'm stuck with ghc 7.04. It sucks.
 
apart from ruby, it seems to be working
@Lalaland wut. That's ancient! Why?
 
user406009
Redhat 6
 
do you need to use it?
I thought it died around 2003
oh it's now fedora and RHEL
 
I wonder how web browsers are so good at text rendering. Its kind of a scary problem to think about in general. So many glyphs and they dynamically rearrange themselves as you resize the window
very impressive
 
they use 3rd party libs though
like freetype and stuff
 
10:30 PM
Firefox rolled a lot of their own text rendering bits.
Chrome uses DirectWrite but still fails pretty hard.
 
ghc works
this computer is almost usable now
now only git
 
user406009
@Prismatic yeah. Browsers are quite impressive nowadays.
 
@ThePhD what about chrome/safari on mac?
 
user406009
Especially when people really demand speed
 
user406009
+ low ram use.
 
10:31 PM
@BartekBanachewicz CoreText
 
Unicode support in the terminal
What has the world come to
 
amazing
emojis in code
funny, I'll need to ask @ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ how to build my own library on mac
 
Well freetype is amazing, but its for rasterizing individual glyphs. I meant more placement and largescale rendering. Usually you rasterize to some kind of atlas and then paint the screen using whatever renderer... software, gl, dx etc
 
I'm supposed to write 30 sentences, but I write half-page long sentences halp pls
 
user406009
10:33 PM
@BartekBanachewicz yes. I have no control. They will probably update only when red hat 6 gets eoled
 
each glyph is a tiny image... and constantly rendering so many when they can dynamically change fairly often is impressive
 
@набиячлевэлиь more and more things became unmanageable with the keyboard. Have you tried using the Win7+ taskbar with the keyboard? No more "Win+space... Menu c" to close a window. Hell even alt-tab is broken. Applications like Skype will just be in the tab order regardless of how many times you minimized them. Worse, even just alt-tabbing past these will have unminimized them for you. Insanity
 
@Prismatic
@sehe Windows 7 (Aero in general) is broken like that
 
All later windows have that (well, haven't tried windows 10)
 
There is a key in the registry you can change to use the default Luna behaviour, where minimized windows would be pushed to the back of the list
 
10:36 PM
Windows is broken? Blow me down with feather - what heresy is this :p
 
@набиячлевэлиь In fairness, Gnome WM also broke alt-tabbing badly ("grouping" windows, making it well nigh impossible to go to another window of the same "type". Which is - of course - 80% of the time what you want)
 
@Lalaland who's "they"?
 
lol window grouping
 
@sehe ubuntu's Alt-Tab is just retardedly bad
was last time I tried
 
@набиячлевэлиь just upgrade some commas to full stops
 
user406009
10:37 PM
@BartekBanachewicz university
 
@Lalaland don't you have your own machine or something?
 
Well, Unity, that is :)
But yeah. I wonder what the hell all these UI designers are smoking.
Why do they keep complicating things.
I have the distinct impression they're just bored and under pressure to come up with gimmicks
 
OSX iface feels much better than Windows anyway
 
@sehe never watched kids cartoons from the 60s or 70s then? ;p
 
user406009
10:38 PM
@BartekBanachewicz All assignments must compile on the shared hardware.
 
it's simpler, but more functional
@Lalaland ahwell.
 
user406009
I locally use the latest ghc. But then have to fix tons of stack overflow exceptions when I port.
 
@sehe I can't, because I'm using semi-archaic syntax which makes it basically impossible to do
@Lalaland Did you try asking on Stack Overflow?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I have worked with it for ~1.5 years now. I can still be completely stuck when trying to alt-tab to a minimized terminal. (Just won't work). Or when sometimes my window moves to a "different viewport". Took me a while to figure out why the thing would spontaneously stand by very soon many times...
 
@Borgleader I DID IT
I CONQUERED THE GL
 
10:40 PM
@JonClements Indeed
 
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 
@Abyx The difference is that in the UK, it's just one random dude on the street, and in Russia, he's the President
 
@набиячлевэлиь well, then you're fucked
 
@sehe I kind of am
 
10:41 PM
@Puppy welp it's not just a random dude, it's a representative of those local muslims
 
@Abyx funny you're watching that. I saw the full documentary recently
@Abyx Random dude like you
 
And I also almost exhausted the topic in like 6 sentences halp
@sehe Pseudo-random! You were biased!
 
user406009
@sehe what was the main message of the documentary?
 
> main.hs:5:1: Warning: Tab character
heh
 
Integration be hard. Need communication.
If people listen, they will understand better. Otherwise: fear.
 
10:42 PM
cool
 
@BartekBanachewicz Booo.
 
i can compile haskell programs
 
@sehe lol
 
i can git
i have a text editor
 
Any langauge that forces upon me a convention of pure organization deserves to burn.
 
way to go for a laptop worth as much as my car
 
@BartekBanachewicz butt u hafe wirnongs you cannot compile with wirnongs
 
@ThePhD it doesn't force it, just tells you politely to not fuck yourself
 
@BartekBanachewicz Is your car a Maluch :P
 
no, it's a Renault
anyway
 
10:44 PM
@BartekBanachewicz It's a warning. In most build environments that'd come up as "HEY THE BUILD IS WRONG", even though it's just a warning.
 
I need to sleep
 
@BartekBanachewicz overrated
 
sold my "really nice car" after my mum had cancer and she needed private medical
 
@ThePhD bullshit. It's what it is - a warning.
If you don't care for a particular warning, you disable it
 
@BartekBanachewicz Can you turn it off?
 
10:45 PM
Grumble.
 
but tabs in haskell are just shooting your own penis
@набиячлевэлиь ofc
 
@JonClements what car was that? (I'm not into cars)
 
@sehe you are non-believers so you will burn in hell they say. because that's what Koran says and if you think that koran is wrong that you're not a muslim
 
@BartekBanachewicz -Wno-oppression-from-the-white?
@BartekBanachewicz Why is that?
 
Why are you telling me this?
I just told you I've seen the whole documentary
 
10:46 PM
@набиячлевэлиь because it's whitespace-delimited?
 
@Abyx You just gotta git gud
 
and has perhaps a tad more complex syntax rules than python
 
user406009
@sehe there are some really scary poll numbers though. Like 28% in favor of sharia law.
 
but you can write whitespace-insensitive haskell as well
using curly brackets and semicolons
{
    x += 1;
}
 
Ooooh, I get it now
 
10:47 PM
valid haskell
 
@sehe M5
 
@sehe I'm just talking about that "integration"
 
@Abyx I've heard far bigger groups of christians say the same. In fact they used it as a social pressure thing.
@JonClements is that a brand? Ah BMW. Oooooh. That is ~~really nice~~
 
Just ban all forms of religion, problem solved
 
dammit... someone call me a smurf?
 
10:49 PM
> ban
^ fail
 
@JonClements No, littel smurf, nobody will
@sehe Why?
 
Banning is about removing freedom. Isn't that the very thing you're trying to prevent?
 
user406009
@набиячлевэлиь you can't ban an idea
 
Also, what /is/ religion. If you ban all sorts of religion, should we ban TDD?
 
@sehe asian dub foundation sound track for the docu! <3
 
10:50 PM
@Lalaland Of course I can
 
user406009
Now we enter the tolerating intolerance arguments.
 
@sehe Yes, especially TDD
 
@Prismatic Don't recall. Heard some stuff I recognized, but don't remember what
@Lalaland Prezoisely
 
free speech is always welcome in the UK... if it's mongering towards hatred or something etc... it becomes a crime
 
user406009
This is fucking scary though.
 
@sehe anyway, like I said earlier, haven't had the fortunate to be around that much recently, is all well - as per... errr discussions!?
 
@Nooble You spoke my name? (about a day ago)
 
@JonClements I think so
 
@JonClements thats contradictory
imo free speech includes hate speech
 
Indeed, that's why the Westboro Baptist Church is not behind bars.
 
11:04 PM
@jaggedSpire Yes.
 
user406009
@ElimGarak the US has some different policies twards free speech then Europe.
 
I tried to summon you with a picture of granola.
 
@Nooble Ah.
 
user406009
@ElimGarak for example, my HitlerStach barber shop idea would probably not fly in Germany.
 
That would be the problem then. I made granola yesterday, so my excess of it then must have drowned out the signal you were giving my granola-dar
 
11:14 PM
0
Q: C++ , can't get it to run hello world code

Zane TareenFirst I was not able to install GWmin gcc. Now that I am done with that I have a new issue the build says there is nothing to build even when I have put a hello world programme in there. #include <iostream> int main() { cout << "hello!! World\n" } return 0; Another thing th...

 
It is september
 
10/10 question, give upvotes
 
@ThePhD Congratz
 
@набиячлевэлиь wow
 
@набиячлевэлиь 0/10 would downvote again
 
11:16 PM
int main() { cout << "hello!! World\n" } return 0;
 
@ThePhD I'm assuming this no longer applies?
 
its beautiful
 
@Borgleader Sort of: the moment I'm doing more than 1 vertex input / output, everything goes to the shitter.
@Borgleader Thanks. ♥
 
0
A: Python: How to create a dictionary that contains key‐value pairs from a text file

orlpUse str.split(): with open('one.txt') as f: d = dict(l.strip().split(':') for l in f)

fuck me
why does the shitcode get accepted
 
it's /pythonic/
 
11:19 PM
More code = better answer ofc
 
aka one huge one liner
 
@Veritas oh cmon
it's 45 chars in width
 
Nothing wrong with it
 
I never know how to deal with the redeclared gl_out nonsense.
It takes up bindings and layouts and wjdhawkdwd
 
ah I was looking at the other answer
 
11:21 PM
@Borgleader Do you have a simple shader that as the redeclared gl_Position stuff that I can look at, and its vertex shader?
 
Well, it should strip the split components probably but that might not be a problem
 
Just the in/out stuff.
 
i was already putting it together ♥
 
11:22 PM
Gosh, so good to me!
 
@orlp Maybe your answer wasn't acceptable?
 
@Mysticial ?
 
@Borgleader What's in basic_shader_common and vs_common ?
 
@orlp Either I suck at making puns, or you suck at reading them.
 
@Mysticial I often simply can't detect sarcasm or some puns over written text, sorry.
my god
if a question or question title contains the words "a (<language>) code", what are the odds it's a total wreck?
wouldn't be surprised to see a >75% correlation
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Q: a c++ code calling an external code in openmp

wasabi123in my c++ code, I am calling an external code ./myprogramme in parallel, my pseudo code: omp pragma parallel for (i=1;i< 1000000; i++ ) { write to a file $i.in run ./myprogramme } running on our own local cluster, it has no problem. However, when running in external cluster XSEDE, with...

I simply do not understand how these people function
 
11:27 PM
@orlp badlly
 
@orlp wut
 
@Mysticial I... I don't know
Do these people go through all their life like this?
 
@orlp 75% seems too low
 
0
Q: c++ declaration of variable that text values only. Am using codeblock for compilation

Obiwon Oluwa-wise GentlespiritPlease I want to declare a c++ variable 'choice' that will accept text input only and not int value.I have tried string and char but it still allows for input of int value and etc from users. thanks

 
11:29 PM
flinging shit at everything and everyone in the hope something sticks?
 
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Q: To Upgrade my pc to the latest

SamI want to upgrade my old system, it has 1 GB ram, 2.60 GHz processor and 256 MB video memory. my budget is 50,000 INR please help me!

Looks like they finally updated the site.
It's been a few years.
 
oh god newest questions are the greatest thing of all time
 
"Does pthread_create in c++ create a new thread every time its called?"
...
 
No, only at random intervals.
 
don't hear much hypes about cloud anymore
 
11:33 PM
oh guys
we have a new winner
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Q: How to check the C/C++ source of Java?

tarunbJust curious, is there a way I can browse the actual C/C++ code that Java/JDK/JRE was made with? I looked all over Stackoverflow already, but all I found was how to view the src.zip in the jdk, which I already know about.

 
@orlp It's probably a mix of bad english, ignorance and a lazy type 2 congitive system. Or just stupid.
 
hrm
 
@orlp I one-up you here:
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Q: Please help me to Tutorial PHP ODBC?

TalibI am a new member in the Stackoverflow, I need a full tutorial PHP ODBC, Can you help?

 
I don't think this deserved the amount of downvotes it got
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Q: How to relate a pair of values, where's no function available to calculate them?

YakSal TafriLet's assume I have defined a certain int x; I have another variable int y; int x; can have ten values, let's say 1 to 10. For each value of x, y has a value too. There is no mathematical relation between them, so for example if x = 1, y = 100. If x = 2, y = 2. If x = 3, y = 3232. Etc. ...

 
I mean, the problem exposition wasn't terribly clear, but it's answerable
 
See the name before hafta pee edited
"A variable that can have many values"
 
@набиячлевэлиь so we have people just downvoting after looking at the title?
 
wtf, some of the questions are legit.
 
There was one on templates earlier today where the person clearly hadn't learned the syntax for class constructor definition and wanted to make a variadic template.
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Q: c++ - Passing unknown amount of arguments to constructor

Aydin BiberI am creating a class that takes an unknown amount of objects and then draws them on the screen. I'm trying to utilize templates but don't know how they work, and every source I've read so far shows a different way of writing it. .cpp // file composite.cpp #include <SFML/Graphics.hpp> #includ...

 
11:37 PM
as rare as it is, to me it's clear this OP wasn't lazy
 
superposition verbibols
 
freaking trolls
 
just doesn't know how to explain it clearly
 
It's not terrible terrible. They're clearly trying. They just didn't do any research, and wanted a quick fix without describing what they really wanted... >_>
 
@jaggedSpire All I ever wanted is to pick this guitar and sing...
 
11:39 PM
@jaggedSpire that might give you a reason to downvote, but not close
 
@Borgleader So I got it working again, but only by making sure I was uploading only Vector2 data... which is fairly strange.
 
Trying as in they wrote out code
 
by the way, did anyone look at the 'featured meta post' in i.imgur.com/vRhg890.png
 
Yes
 
11:40 PM
I didn't notice until you pointed it out, actually
 
@orlp lol
 
or the search box
 
ummmm
 
it's subtle but there :)
 
@Borgleader Even more strange: when I have Vector2 data, with glertexAttribPointer( ... ), I need to say I have a size of 3 with gl::FLOAT before it renders properly. If I use Vector2 data and then use 2 with gl::FLOAT, nothing shows up at all.
 
11:41 PM
yes?
 
Didn't notice the search box, nice
 
@набиячлевэлиь I edited almost everything :P
 
@orlp You sure as hell did, I'm just not detail-oriented enough to see that
 
@orlp You actually posted that on meta? Linky linky!
 
I like the options [Incoherent Ramblings][Tags][Incompetents][Badges][The uninteresting shit][Get Flamed]
 
11:42 PM
@ThePhD no?
 
@orlp Aww.
 
The python job is a nice touch.
 
"Sick Job" "The $$$ Company" "Somewhere else"
 
@orlp Do they use jQuery?
With so many $s
 
@набиячлевэлиь yes
 
11:43 PM
do they!
 
@набиячлевэлиь look at the tags of the bottom most question
 
Let's try a different site:
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Q: Is reputation a measure of intelligence?

1111161171159459134Life is hard on Stack Overflow for us, the under 1000 reputation guys! It seems impossible to earn this level of reputation, a level which appears to indicate unusual intelligence or ability. This leads me to question the nature of reputation: Is 1k+ reputation a matter of points accumulated i...

 
@orlp Now my monitor is full of tea!
 
@Mysticial I'm off to bed mate...
 
in general the tags
 
11:45 PM
Clearly not; I'm living proof. — Nooble Aug 25 at 0:28
 
@JonClements night
 
although I might not be nod nod wink wink
look arounds the room
 
@JonClements "You have spotted a charging orc. Roll 1d6 to determine reaction speed."
 
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Q: What is the name of this full header scroll bar

Hisba HassanI have seen this thing on a wordpress website can any body can help me to let me know what this thing is? I have attached two images. 1.jpg contains full screen view of that image and 2.jpg is a half view, I know this is not a valid question on this forum my friend told me about this site so I am...

 
11:46 PM
@Mysticial That's such a stupid question. If OP just thought about it for 5 seconds he should find the answer himself.
 
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Q: how is main page of wordpress website loaded?

Mukul SinghI want to edit some code of main page of my WordPress website. where can I find the code for main page in c Panel in file manager.

how is babby formed
 
This is a good one:
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A: How can I improve the way I use SO and avoid downvoting of some of my posts?

SaswatNegative votes are caused due to reasons that vary from a wide range like Spelling mistakes and silly shorthand sms type mistakes like using (i am) instead of (I am), or (u wil b) instead of (you will be) Grammatical Mistakes and not using capital letter for the first letter of the sentence, ...

 
for the uninitiated
 
11:47 PM
> I know this is not a valid question on this forum my friend told me about this site so I am a new user on this site plz plz help me
 
oh god
instantly you know the quality of that question
 
extern char *malloc (), *realloc ();
 
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A: Block users that write offensive answers

Man PersonI think that it should be more about if the answer had any valuable information rather than if it was offensive or not. Like you should be able to call someone a noob at some language and then show them how it's done if you want. Obviously racism, death threats, and other more serious stuff shoul...

 
oh god
#ifdef HAVE_MEMPCPY
	  *((char *) mempcpy (drive_spec, pattern, dirlen)) = '\0';
#else
 
@ThePhD That doesnt make any sense =/
 
11:52 PM
halp
 
@Mysticial noob
@набиячлевэлиь that's just wrong
 
"but at some point you just gotta grow some what's the stackoverflow approriate word for it... testicles hahahah"
 
@Borgleader Right!?
It's confusing the fuck out of me.
 
#ifndef HAVE_MEMCPY
#define HAVE_MEMCPY
/* just fucking implement it it's one loop */
#endif
 
I mean as you can see in my code i have both a vec3 and a vec2 and the number of floats in gl::VertexAttribPointer matches correctly.
 
11:54 PM
@Borgleader Yeah, so I'm wondering why my shit is all bollocks.
 
@orlp Point is the library will use mempcpy() if available, memcpy() otherwise
 
... I'm
I'm so confused. I give up. This code isn't making any sense.
 
@Borgleader I like your darker avatar.
Seems a lot more normal.
Up next, @AlexM.
 
@Nooble Do you mean Rappt2?
 

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