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3:00 PM
@elyse follow the conversation
 
@thecoshman HAPPY BIRTHDAY
 
sings drunkenly Hepi berzdeeej tuuuuu juuuuuu, hepi beeeerzdeeeeeej tuuuuu ju hic @thecoshman
 
Let's watch C++ talks like the cool kids
and pretend I understand
 
Especially STL @ 30% light speed
 
user1804599
3:19 PM
@Mr.kbok CBA
 
@elyse I was saying "map is not a member of std" is incorrect
Then I went on to say that the fact that "map" is a file that is preprocessed is irrelevant to the C++ language
 
This cats have serious issues
 
hello,Is there any person here to help me?
 
almost clicked on that first link, whew
 
user406009
3:25 PM
@mehdiamirsardari You are probably better off posting on StackOverflow.
 
user406009
If you really want to, feel free to post your question, and people will answer if they want.
 
I'm trying to add an argument to stdio.lib but I don't know where and how I can do it :(
 
user406009
What do you mean "add an argument to stdio.lib"?
 
star material
 
you know,I post a question and someone said you need to add this argument to compiler: '-Wl,-u,vfprintf -lprintf_flt -lm'
here is the link of my question
Simple answer: do not use floating point on AVR and other small devices. For temperature you do not even need it, but integer emulating fixed-point (decimal or binary) is the way to go. — Olaf 16 mins ago
 
3:28 PM
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva That'd be hot, as in 20e+06°C hot
 
@mehdiamirsardari So... Where do you have your commandline configured? Where do you even invoke the compiler? Add it there
 
@sehe lol expressing star temperature in celsius
what next, your mom's weight in grams?
 
Why not
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Don't matter, will overflow anyway v0v
 
3:30 PM
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva What more suitable unit is there?
 
pffft
 
Celsius is the only unit
 
Cicada 1 sehe 0
 
Also, I was referring to the gaseous mass before stars form.
 
3:31 PM
That's after your mom ate beans
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva what ugly serialization format
 
user406009
Wait, @AnastasiyaAsadullayeva are you Cicada?
 
...
 
No I just stole her jokes
 
:o
 
3:32 PM
How do you feel @Morwenn
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Not too swollen yet.
 
How many did you get removed?
 
All of them.
 
inb4 5
 
3:33 PM
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva I was excepting that one. Of course 4.
 
I have 5
It's ruining my dental whatevers
 
wow sehe stop showing off how SPECIAL you are because you have ONE MORE wisdom tooth
check your privilege
 
But in my case the dentist specifically suggests not removing more than 1 at the same time
 
That's why you're able to answer so many Boost questions!
 
I have none anymore. I thought it'd be wiser to get rid of these wisdom teeth.
 
3:34 PM
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva get to work. You need more stress
 
Knew something just wasn't adding up
 
@Morwenn I should do the same. On a scale from 0 to PHP how much did it hurt?
 
@Morwenn Silly littel Morwenn
No more wisdom, only PHP now
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Sodomy with a micropenis.
Not too much.
 
@ElimGarak mmm I missed something
 
3:37 PM
@Mysticial Oh boy...
 
Registered on @phicentre's web site to buy tickets. Got a confirmation email with my password in it... #cleartextpassword #cyber
 
Oh, it's starting to hurt one the right side as well.
 
Remove all teeth, problem solved
 
@Morwenn Good plan.
I got all of them removed at once because I figured I'd never want to go back for more.
Hurts for a week, then it's fine.
 
user406009
@EtiennedeMartel Wow. That level of incompetence.
 
3:42 PM
@Lalaland I'm afraid of changing my password lest they send it again.
 
is it true that if you don't remove them they fuck up your dentition
 
Xeo
I never had problem with my wisdom teeth
I only got 2 in my lower jaw, and they fit without a problem there
 
hehehehe bby u know what else fits without a problem
 
8 mins ago, by Morwenn
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Sodomy with a micropenis.
 
@Xeo That's possible, but fairly uncommon.
 
3:44 PM
?
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva It really depends. One of the problems is that we can't known whether they'll ever grow nor when they will do if they do.
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva A carrot?
A celery?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Not always.
 
A Krabby Patty
 
A delicious and nutritious meal?
 
3:56 PM
> Note that tokens separated by spaces should be treated as separate tokens since make doesn't allow path names with spaces
Thank god for that
 
badlets
 
Less work for me :P
 
IOW "it's not my fault"
 
Ugh, commandline vs command line vs command-line [arguments]
@milleniumbug Exactly
 
your boss won't be satisfied with this explanation :P
 
4:01 PM
> >"Your boss"
> >tfw you're 15
 
irrelevant
 
@SJD wat
Ask @ʞɔᴉN
He knows about OpenGL.
 
user1804599
@Mr.kbok std::map exists, so map is a member of std.
 
@milleniumbug Means I can just regex my way through it instead of parsing everything by hand
 
or just don't use inferior tools like make :P
 
4:03 PM
Also, thank god for Google and GitHub, means I don't have to port a <glob.h> abstraction to Windows
@milleniumbug Writing a "preprocessor" (don't smack me) for it, so I have to parse some of it, hence the simpler it is, the better
 
@milleniumbug Yep.
Use CMake :D
 
Also only badlets use spaces in filenames, anyway
cough "C:\Program Files\"
 
Meh, the pain is getting pretty intense.
 
If your program can't handle spaces it is broken and needs to be replaced with a non-broken one
 
@Morwenn Take more drugs
 
4:06 PM
what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
@Nooble Yes
 
@набиячлевэлиь Paracetamol is lethal if you take too much of it. To be reasonable, I still to wait two more hours before taking some again.
 
@milleniumbug I need to mimic make's behaviour, so it's
 
Especially if such mishandling can trigger security bugs
emulating broken make's behaviour, yes
 
is that related to racetams at all?
 
@Morwenn Everything is lethal if you overdose it v0v
Take meth instead
Or get someone responsible to hit you in the head
 
4:10 PM
Nope, I'll just endure like a big girl.
 
that's what I like to hear
 
@набиячлевэлиь I don't see how it's incompatible.
 
@набиячлевэлиь like a big attack helicopter if you will
 
You're putting too much attention into uninteresting details :p
 
4:12 PM
@elyse Thank you for being logical.
 
@Morwenn It's not that incompatible
It's just... whatever, I don't give a fuck anyway
 
That's what I wanted to hear :D
But seriously, that's getting worse by the minute, haha.
 
Time for downing a whisky bottle
 
I don't ike whisky, but I could use some génépi.
 
You get antiseptic for free
@Morwenn I used to call it "green whisky"
 
4:15 PM
Forgot to employ my I-dont-give-a-fuck policy before I got nitpicky
 
Then somone told me it has a name of its own
 
@Morwenn a.k.a. grassy vodka
 
@набиячлевэлиь Not nitpicky enough
 
@Mr.kbok Elixir d'Armorique is more like green whisky since there's whisky and génépi in it.
 
@Morwenn I don't know about this, though
 
4:16 PM
@Mr.kbok smacks
 
@Mr.kbok It's hard to find, even in Bretagne. It's only distilled in Lannion.
 
looks suspicious
 
Tastes great (it you like génépi and the like).
 
I'll see if I can get my hands on it :P
 
I only ever found some in hypermarkets, and I can't even find it at Leclerc anymore.
 
user1804599
4:23 PM
@Mr.kbok I like elixir-lang.org.
 
user1804599
I need to figure out a way to encode universal quantification in module files.
 
@elyse This does look cool.
 
user1804599
It does indeed. It's a great programming language.
 
user1804599
It's like Erlang but comprehensible.
 
user1804599
I could encode [T: *, U: *]F[T, G[U]] as [**]Nm.F;[P0;Nm.G;[P1;]].
 
user1804599
4:30 PM
maybe
 
Now those are ASCII characters to live by
 
Anaesthsia, y u wear off? :(
 
user1804599
Nah, that's terrible.
 
user1804599
I don't want postfix stuff.
 
@Morwenn @AnastasiyaAsadullayeva explain yourself
 
user1804599
4:31 PM
[**]ANm.F;P0;ANm.G;P1;;; is better.
 
user1804599
That's easily parseable.
 
But is it readable?
 
user1804599
It need not be readable.
 
user1804599
It's generated by the compiler and read by the VM.
 
Hey Guys. I just wonder what you think about c++ threads? java(android)/ objective -c./ Csharp come embedded with so-called poweful multithreading frameworks/. but I believe it's quite hard to play with raw c++ threads developing the real world appications
 
4:34 PM
@ProblemSolver Don't use raw threads then.
 
user1804599
aaaaaah this doesn't work with free type variables :(
 
@Morwenn Yep. But there are no frameworks. or a few ones . which are most likely commercially available only
 
@ProblemSolver There's a bunch of frameworks in C++
 
Is there any better way of doing this (C++)?
 
user1804599
4:36 PM
depends on whether you need concurrency or parallelism
 
user1804599
IIRC there are some easy to use C++ libraries for parallel execution.
 
user1804599
Concurrency in general is terrible in C++ because of lots of factors though.
 
See Intel TBB
 
user1804599
I wonder how far you can go with mimicing Go's select statement using the C preprocessor.
 
@набиячлевэлиь Oh, IIFE in C++ :o
 
user1804599
4:39 PM
I think you can just use variadic templates.
 
Solves many problems when you can only have an expression.
 
user1804599
Like select(recv(c, [] (auto x) { ... }), send(c, 42)).
 
Eh, yet another hour before I can take more painkillers~~
At least Zoan Zaound makes me happy.
 
@Morwenn Shoot yerself in the head
 
@Mr.kbok Ok. which one multithreading framework would you suggest to use in the real world applications? I just typed multithreading framework in google and it shows me some outdated (most likely) information. I would be grateful if you give me any clue :P
 
4:41 PM
(also works as a pain relief method)
 
4 mins ago, by milleniumbug
See Intel TBB
 
@ProblemSolver Dlib sounds alright, OpenMP for low-level stuff
 
Ccr
hello guys
 
user1804599
Don't use C++ if you want to do concurrency.
 
user1804599
Use something in which it's actually doable, such as Erlang, Go or Haskell.
 
4:43 PM
@набиячлевэлиь thank you!
 
@Morwenn AFAICT 'tis the only way to do milti-step init (or whatever you wanna call it) in C+
 
user1804599
@набиячлевэлиь yes. don't make them static.
 
user1804599
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A: Is std::regex thread safe?

EclipseWhile Sean's answer is true of the standard, individual implementation may fall short. VC++ 2013, at least, looks like it has race conditions in its copy constructor and in a lazily evaluated variable.

 
user1804599
also use Perl, not C++
 
That's our Perl girl for you :p
 
4:50 PM
Why not make them function-static? Constructing (and destroying) regices each of the 300 calls to the function sounds a little... bad
 
Xeo
thread_local! But, no lambdas are a good workaround for complex initialisation of constants.
 
user1804599
@набиячлевэлиь make a class which contains the regexen and make the function a member function of that class.
 
5:14 PM
Still spitting blood...
 
You know, now that I live with a cat, I finally understand dust covers for keyboards.
@xeo You can relate I am sure
 
Xeo
not really.
:P
 
@elyse That was... well, I don't know.
 
@Xeo cat fluff, everywhere!
 
Xeo
They learned not to step on my keyboard, so yeah.
also, brush your cat man!
 
5:18 PM
@ScottW I believe Python comes handy here .. but I have no solution
 
user1804599
submodules maybe
 
user1804599
they're still broken somehow
 
user1804599
Every software project has this part that is forever broken. For Git, that is submodules.
 
@ScottW I wish I work for enterprises like google then I'd had to deal with thing like yours. but I'm just a remote contractor I don't even have to use git merge ...
 
@Xeo she's short haired, and it made no difference :|
 
Xeo
5:22 PM
@thecoshman my two are short-haired too
and I got two. Still no problem
Just train them to leave your keyboard / desk alone :D
 
yay for loops work :)
 
@fredoverflow nice
 
@Xeo it's in 'her' room vOv
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow y u no i != 11
 
and it's not an issue with her getting on it
 
5:24 PM
I give up to get working gradle and android NDK.. They deprecated support ndk in gradle and pushing some shitty beta plugin for ndk which doesn't work properly either. damn!
 
or i < 11
 
Xeo
@thecoshman My two get access to the whole flat (except for the kitchen)
 
@ScottW lol. Man. No idea what the time in your cave. but It's 1:25am. so. problem solver needs some rest after 14 hours working day.....
 
@elyse != is not implemented yet :D
@bluefog < is not implemented yet :D
 
user1804599
:(
 
user1804599
5:26 PM
implement !=
 
@fredoverflow is == implemented?
 
@fredoverflow dat a public project?
 
@набиячлевэлиь yes
 
@fredoverflow Use !(i == 11), then
 
user1804599
Vlinder won't have ==.
 
5:27 PM
@ScarletAmaranth Not yet, but it could be, I'm not ashamed of it. Test coverage is good.
 
user1804599
It'll have = instead.
 
@fredoverflow ping me when it is if you remember :)
 
@ScottW In fact It's 11 pm .. but I used to work and live by china time lol So my working day starts at 7am..
 
@elyse That's not surprising :p
 
user1804599
Why not?
 
5:28 PM
@elyse And what for assignment? :=?
 
user1804599
There is no assignment.
 
inb4 immutability
 
user1804599
If the standard library would provide mutable cells, then the syntax would probably be set(x, 1).
 
you could use <==8 for assignment
 
user1804599
5:29 PM
And reading it would be get(x).
 
<- as in R
 
user1804599
Making mutable variables a language feature unnecessarily complicates the language.
 
@elyse variables are variable
 
Eh, I had an error that I coudn't uderstand with g++, and a unused parameter warning.
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
5:30 PM
So Vlider won't have verbibols as all :(
 
@elyse NSMutableArray makes me sick in Obj C
 
I got rid of the warning. I don't have an eror anymore.
 
user1804599
Hence x in let x = f() can have different values at different times in the program.
 
user1804599
For example, if it occurs in a function which you call twice, and f returns the current time.
 
user1804599
@ProblemSolver So?
 
5:31 PM
@ProblemSolver Go to bed
 
user1804599
Objective-C is irrelevant.
 
user1804599
It's a completely different language.
 
I want to create an immutable math programming language with condition-based automatic downcasts.
 
Yes I understand perfectly
 
@elyse But I like obje. because I can use C++ along with objc :)
@набиячлевэлиь ok daddy.
 
5:32 PM
@AndyProwl why not 8==B...
 
user1804599
@Morwenn You can solve the problem of conditions not influencing types that way by removing subtyping from the type system, thereby also eliminating lots of other problems that need not be there.
 
@thecoshman tip needs to point towards assigned verbibol
 
@Morwenn Ummmm... yes. Those are... mmm words?
> It's like a Makefile for repositories
 
user1804599
So if you would want a mutable local variable and increment it by one, you could say this: let x = ref(0); set(x, get(x) + 1);.
 
@набиячлевэлиь Among other things.
 
user1804599
5:34 PM
Kinda like auto const x = std::make_unique<int>(0); *x = *x + 1; in C++.
 
@ScottW You said here? You mean you are in China? If It's so I guess you are based in Hong Kong since majority Hong Kongers have night life :P
@ScottW oops
 
user1804599
to some extent
 
@AndyProwl FUCK YOU TOO
 
Alright guys. my eyes are getting blind.
see ya
have a great C++ coding
day*
 
user1804599
@Morwenn let's implement a FOSS ABAP compiler.
 
5:36 PM
@elyse FOSS ABAP? x)
 
user1804599
Free and open-source software (FOSS) is computer software that can be classified as both free software and open-source software. That is, anyone is freely licensed to use, copy, study, and change the software in any way, and the source code is openly shared so that people are encouraged to voluntarily improve the design of the software. This is in contrast to proprietary software, where the software is under restrictive copyright and the source code is usually hidden from the users. The benefits of using FOSS can include decreasing software costs, increasing security and stability (especially in...
 
user1804599
ABAP (Advanced Business Application Programming, originally Allgemeiner Berichts-Aufbereitungs-Prozessor, German for "general report creation processor") is a high-level programming language created by the German software company SAP. It is currently positioned, alongside Java, as the language for programming the SAP Application Server, which is part of the NetWeaver platform for building business applications. == Introduction == ABAP is one of the many application-specific fourth-generation languages (4GLs) first developed in the 1980s. It was originally the report language for SAP R/2, a platform...
 
@Morwenn FreeOpenSourceSoftware AdvancedBusinessApplicationProgramming
 
user1804599
One ABAP feature I would like to try is internal tables.
 
user1804599
They're like Boost.MultiIndex but without C++.
 
5:37 PM
It sounds like a lot of work.
 
user1804599
Yes, but I want to give ABAP a try but I refuse to use programming languages that have no FOSS implementations.
 
TYPES: BEGIN OF t_vbrk,
         VBELN TYPE VBRK-VBELN,
         ZUONR TYPE VBRK-ZUONR,
       END OF t_vbrk.
 
user1804599
sounds like alien speech
 
Yeah.
 
5:40 PM
@набиячлевэлиь Neither of those operators is implemented yet ;)
 
@fredoverflow But you just said == is implemented
 
user1804599
Allgemeiner Berichtsaufbereitungsprozessor
 
@набиячлевэлиь Yes, but ! and () aren't.
 
@fredoverflow ugh
 
user1804599
Hmm.
 
user1804599
5:41 PM
If my VM implements memory in terms of SQLite, is it easy to implement STM?
 
using default_sorter = self_sort_adapter<
    small_array_adapter<
        hybrid_adapter<
            inplace_merge_sorter,
            quick_sorter,
            pdq_sorter
        >,
        std::make_index_sequence<10u>
    >
>;
With that, I guess that my default sorter handles quite a bit of things.
 

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