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user1804599
10:00 PM
Go full Stallman.
 
It only prompts you after shaving saving (and not every time, more like every 10 or 15 times)
 
ST3 bugs you every N time you save
 
user406009
@ElimGarak we are talking about a game. Not a boost metaprogramming library.
 
user406009
C++11 is good enough.
 
@Borgleader Unless N > 100, then no thanks.
Guess I'll see if Visual Studio's python tools are good.
 
10:01 PM
Use Atom ;)
 
.-.
 
user1804599
I want to write something in Go.
 
@ThePhD Google "sublime text 3 crack", click on the first gist link, search for your build number and OS
 
I said I needed an IDE, not an ICBM.
 
user1804599
@ThePhD IntelliJ
 
10:01 PM
@Lalaland Well, the moment I mentioned VS, people exploded. And VS is utterly necessary to making a worthwhile engine, without first investing 2 years into developing your own substandard version of graphics debugging tools.
 
> [[emplace]] auto x = makeWidget();
 
@elyse They do python?
 
Of course, let's add new initialization rules.
 
user1804599
Yes? Why else would I mention it?
 
@Borgleader I've been wanting to switch. To this date, however, the application still has not started.
 
10:02 PM
There seems to be 2 version. PyCharm, and the Python IntelliJ plugin.
 
@Morwenn Well, something definitely went wrong when you have >10 syntaces for initialization.
 
I'm not sure which to pick.
 
I left-clicked it 30 years ago
 
user1804599
Me neither.
 
@набиячлевэлиь "sublime text 3 butt crack"
 
10:03 PM
@Nooble Why is Icicle stagnating? :P
 
@milleniumbug [-_-]
 
@AlexM. All aboard the train to feeladelphia (I think I'm nearing the end of W3)
 
@milleniumbug The problem is that the « uniform initialization syntax » is both not elegant syntax-wise (ok, that's subjective) and not universal.
 
@Morwenn not denying that
 
user1804599
10:04 PM
I only ever use curly braces for std::initializer_list<T>-taking constructors.
 
@ElimGarak School.
I'm trying to find free time.
 
someone said that the problem with uniform initialization syntax is not it itself, but with std::initializer_list. that got me thinking
 
Sep 8 '13 at 19:16, by Jerry Coffin
@not-rightfold What exactly were you hoping to find by googling for "infinite winrar einstein"? Seems a strange phrase to search for.
 
Seriously, I would have prefered T foo = bar; with mandatory elision to initialize everything.
@elyse Same here, except when I want stuff to look like they use an std::initializer_list.
 
@Nooble Use free time after school?
 
10:06 PM
There should be two syntaces for initialization (maybe third if you want uninitialized stuff):
 
user1804599
 
"constructing an object from these arguments" and "pour these values into the object"
 
@milleniumbug There should only be one.
 
I bought WinRAR. Not really.
 
Oh, yes. Sorry. I'll fix it — EmbeddedDev 6 hours ago
@EmbeddedDev when? — sehe 21 secs ago
 
user1804599
10:07 PM
lol
 
user1804599
sehe it's weekend
 
The difference is in std::vector<int> a(23); vs std::vector<int> a = { 1, 2, 3 };
 
Socratic comments
@elyse I could say the same thing to you. I just came home.
 
Oh, Richard Smith to present a proposal in Kona for mandatory elision for copy-initialization.
 
10:07 PM
Bigband gig. It was... a bit tiresome. Way too loud everything
 
user1804599
@sehe on a scale from North Korean prisoner to lottery jackpot winner, how happy are you?
 
North Korean prisoner.
 
@ThePhD I don't get bugged often.
 
@Puppy No.
 
Maybe once a day.
 
10:08 PM
@набиячлевэлиь No such thing.
 
@elyse I'm average Catalonian. Sad, but making money.
 
Homework.
 
@elyse about {teapot, sovereignty, Ursus Major}
 
@Nooble So what? Just do it and be done
 
10:09 PM
The two actions are logically different
 
user1804599
sovereignty is not a thing here
 
@milleniumbug There's only one thing initialization needs to do- call a constructor.
 
@Nooble Sounds like a lot of homework
 
If they are different, they should look different
 
@TonyTheLion Yeah, I am getting a feeling Nooble is a bit of a school nerd.
 
10:09 PM
Otherwise I could be using Lisp
 
user1804599
Lisp is dead.
 
@Nooble, y u no irresponsible?
 
@ElimGarak I'm really not.
 
@elyse It's a mysterious scale. My readings consistently returned that tuple. So, unless my measurement device is broken, I'll have to accept the outcome
 
@Nooble Nurrrrrrd!
 
10:10 PM
@ElimGarak You're a bad influence
 
@ElimGarak Nothing wrong with being a [school] nerd
 
@milleniumbug They're not different at all.
 
Well. They are now :)
 
@Puppy They are. Which usually wouldn't be a problem, except you can have types which can have both (like std::vector)
 
@elyse What about Clojure? That's still a Lisp dialect.
 
user1804599
10:12 PM
Yes, but it's not Lisp.
 
@milleniumbug Well, let me rephrase that. They shouldn't be different at all.
there is only one required operation for initialization, and that's "Call constructor with given arguments".
there's no need for any other kind of initialization.
 
Guys, is it racist that I want to be a black guy?
 
posted on September 11, 2015 by Eric Battalio

We would love to know more . (Yes, it is a survey and no, it should not take more than 15 minutes and yes, we would love for you to opt-in and share your experiences!)...(read more)

 
@ElimGarak Why?
 
10:13 PM
@набиячлевэлиь That's not how it works.
It takes a lot more time
 
@milleniumbug I don't know, the black gentlemen sort of guys are cool as shit.
 
Last night I had to sleep at 1:30ish :(
 
@Nooble that's not late at all, m8
 
@Feeds Why not using VS2015? Ask ThePhD why.
 
user1804599
10:14 PM
@sehe I also come home. Imagine coming at work.
 
@набиячлевэлиь I wake up at 5.
 
@ElimGarak my full name is Nick Cannon, look me up
 
Your schedule is magical
 
10:15 PM
@Puppy I want std::vector<int> a(20); and std::vector<int> a = { 20 }; to be visually different. How you achieve that is not my problem
If you can achieve that without introducing special cases, good for you
 
that does not require different syntaxes for initialization.
 
Er, I don't see how they can be visually different without a different syntax.
 
@ElimGarak no. That's just your penis envy
 
@Morwenn by { whatever } being an expression
 
@sehe But I got deez nuts.
 
10:18 PM
@ʞɔᴉN Nah I don't think that works out
 
@sehe That's Nick.
 
@набиячлевэлиь No it's horrible.
 
Not exactly bad ass
 
I'm getting 4 hours of sleep.
 
Maybe even nice tushy
(the picture doesn't show)
 
@Nooble How do you even make such a thing
 
Impressive.
(found on reddit)
 
@milleniumbug That is terrible. It would be only std::vector<int> a(20); and std::vector<int> a({20});
 
> Carey gave birth to fraternal twins on their third wedding anniversary, April 30, 2011.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked dat camouflage
 
10:21 PM
@Puppy I can live with that
 
@Nooble How do you even study on that amount of sleep?
 
He probably does that while awake
 
@TonyTheLion You... Don't?
 
@sehe lol
 
@elyse lol, the COBOL part
 
10:22 PM
Like I couldn't study with 4 hours of sleep.
 
user1804599
@ElimGarak ?????????????
 
@elyse How racist you are video, you linked it.
 
@ElimGarak Then fukken respond to it
 
No!
 
10:23 PM
Not to her latest message
 
rightfold is an it, you sexist.
 
she is as a she
 
elyse is a she, goddammit
 
she hasn't identified as agender
 
I'll second that. Strongly.
 
10:24 PM
Attack helicopters do not have a vote yet. But I look forward to them fighting the government over it.
 
Her name ends with a vowel, which is a strong hint
 
user1804599
@ElimGarak oh :p
 
user1804599
@набиячлевэлиь so does Tony's!
 
@Morwenn I know that, I am not a heliphobe.
 
10:25 PM
@набиячлевэлиь So does not Morwenn.
 
@elyse hint, not definitive-statement
 
user1804599
 
Was pretty funny at times.
 
Morwenn is Jason Derulo's it girl.
 
10:26 PM
@TonyTheLion I don't.
 
@Nooble :(
 
@sehe pretty nice tushy, trust me
 
@Morwenn Either too much alcohol or not enough alcohol
 
@набиячлевэлиь Both.
 
@Morwenn Take more drugs
 
10:27 PM
@ʞɔᴉN I believe you
 
1) Build a space station.
2) Find the biggest window.
3) Wear the nicest suit.
4) [Play this in the background.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agfzSFzbiD4)
5) Look moody and serious.
 
6) ????
7) Profit
 
@ElimGarak I wanna build a cylindrical room, where the walls are huge tvs so i can have the same backdrop as him :)
 
Hell yeah!
 
user1804599
 
10:29 PM
@Borgleader Make that real big and call it Rama.
 
@elyse ha. Race condition?
 
user1804599
@sehe more like photoshop
 
@elyse merkins
Then I missed what's wrong. I thought it was funny it still said Friday 11
Ah. Airplane mode.
Sheesh
 
facepalm
 
I guess I'll go to sleep. See y'all later?
 
10:31 PM
good night sweet prince
 
nn
 
Fucking Apple changed the AirPlay protocols again. Wanted to play KotOR on the big screen.
 
Why do you mind?
 
AirPlay crashes our application
 
> our application
 
10:32 PM
@набиячлевэлиь Ok, that sounds strange ^^"
 
Not at all
People say it all the time in this lounge (and outside)
 
@Morwenn ask @ʞɔᴉN for origins of that phrase
Might be something related to Robot
 
good night, sweet princess
 
Apparently, my screen currently sexually identifies as a speaker.
 
Oh. I guess I'll not ask then :p
Well, thank you everyone :)
 
10:33 PM
Rest In Peas
 
Literally.
 
You're welcome, Morwenn. <3
 
@Morwenn Hopefully not
 
@Morwenn eh?
 
@Borgleader You don't know about Rama, do you?
 
10:34 PM
No
 
Repairing, repairing, repairing...
 
@Morwenn Rama is a brand of butterlike products in Poland
 
Maybe one day, it'll all be fixed...
 
I know about that Rama
 
10:36 PM
rendezvous with rama was a great book
sequels were rather disappointing
 
I'm still in the middle of reading it. I didn't plan to read the sequels.
 
@Morwenn that wa sa good book
 
Well, enough talk, I'm leaving :)
 
Unsatisfying ending though... and I hear the sequels were bad
 
10:38 PM
^ That's the garage of the Arthur C. Clarke building
Took that today
 
user1804599
@Morwenn ;_;
 
@TomW fucking thief
 
fucking what
 
you took that today
you stole it
 
It's ok, I left a facsimile that would convince the primitives
it won't damage their society
 
10:45 PM
IRTA fascistsmile
 
the problem is definitely yours, not mine
 
user1804599
SethBling is a hero.
 
he got banned for hax
> It must be amazing to be a programmer.
 
10:47 PM
@elyse Everyone named Seth is awesome
 
user1804599
I disagree.
 
Me too actually
Also. I need to unsubscribe from the boost mailing list pronto. How does anyone deal with that amount of cruft
 
@sehe If their surname is Heeren :P
 
user1804599
lol mailing lists
 
@sehe Panzershrecks. Very many panzershrecks
 
user1804599
10:48 PM
I have to think of this every time someone says "mailing".
 
> Chinese (Guangdong)
Guang dong
She is literally @AnastasiyaAsadullayeva
 
@ʞɔᴉN Yeah, we're all rockstars.
 
user1804599
lol
 
I have to think of this every time someone says "pronto"
 
@milleniumbug Does that still sell?
 
craziness still
 
also I ask myself every time "is that even a word"
@ElimGarak Sure
 
user1804599
I think exceptions are inconvenient in concurrent situations.
 
10:52 PM
Yeah. I think he will eventually hit some of the notes as intended
 
@sehe Ahahah, perfect pitch sehe not impressed. :P
jelly
 
Not impressed indeed. It's nice enough, but terribly sloppy. I don't get that genre.
> Only about 40 people have seen this video, I've watched it 8,552,027 times.
nice
 
user1804599
I could implement Booleans.
 
Booltje Jans
 
You bool.
 
10:55 PM
Teehee
 
I don't want to implement booleans
 
user1804599
Bool or Boolean?
 
Apebool
 
user1804599
Logic
 
10:56 PM
LogicBan
 
user1804599
I have been thinking of adopting a convention that modules are named T, like in OCaml.
 
LojBan
 
user1804599
So you'd say import vlinder.boolean to import the vlinder.boolean module, and then refer to the type of Booleans as boolean.T.
 
yummy. Hot Okamel
 
user1804599
Instead of boolean.Boolean or boolean.Bool or some stutter like that.
 
10:58 PM
com.boolean.booleanlib.Boolean.Bool
 
user1804599
That would indeed be what you would do as a company, yes.
 
user1804599
The standard library however is just in vlinder.*.
 
schmetterling.*
 
caterpillar.*
 
Why Z is up in Unreal (forum thread): https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?75420-Z-Up-vs-Y-Up-the-solution-to-the-debate-lies-within
@ElimGarak relevant to yesterday
 
user1804599
11:04 PM
yay
 
user1804599
sub isa[T: *][U: *](value: U): logic.T
 
user1804599
sub log(logger: Logger, level: Level, message: text.T): ()
 
[T: *] means, that T is an unconstrained type?
 
user1804599
Well, as long as it has kind *.
 
user1804599
Any type of kind * goes.
 
11:06 PM
lol
2
 
@Borgleader Fucking 3ds. Fucking architects.
Ruining everything.
HOW DARE THEY BUILD OUR HOUSES.
 
user1804599
Which is, come to think of it, undesired.
 
user1804599
Because there is no reason you shouldn't be able to check whether a value is e.g. of type [T: *](T => ()).
 
user1804599
So I need to make it so that you can abstract over kinds.
 
elyse, stop being sexy with all your compiler talk.
You're making me want to abandon my classes and build one.
 
user1804599
11:09 PM
Do it.
 
I can't. The classes. ;~;
 
@ThePhD Don't let your dreams be dreams
Just. DO IT!
 
@ThePhD <3 <3
 
Tony.~
How's it going?
 
Its going alright.
I've been better
Long and stressful day at work
 
11:11 PM
Noooooooo
it's gone
 
sehe Y U NO LIVECODING?
 
The only thing that makes these homeworks frustrating
Is that I can't just obviously do the quick and easy
 
@TonyTheLion Had gig. Am gutted. No worthy questions
 
@ThePhD You got all the homeworks?
:3
 
I have to mildly pretend that I'm less smart than I am so I don't get auto-exempted from the course like I was before.
 
11:12 PM
@sehe Sounds like a good reason not to.
 
@jaggedSpire Professor is still fighting me to not let me into the course to begin with. So I only have Homework 1
 
I can't English today, again
 
Yeah. Some things went well. The stage sound was terribad in the second set. So that tanked a bit
 
oh ok
 
@ThePhD Is this a you-are-too-smart fight or a you-need-the-prereqs fight?
 
11:13 PM
But seems audience liked us nonetheless
 
@jaggedSpire It's a "the class is full" fight. I've so far successfully hidden the "too-smart" bit by acting the dumbs.
 
@sehe thats a positive
 
(sometimes makes me wonder)
 
@jaggedSpire On the bright side, I spoke with the Professor for Programming Language: Python, and he actually traveled with me to the registrar's office and just registered me into the course. Ahead of 96 other people.
 
Also. I apparently have a PDF in the set that crashes my sheet music reader app.
 
11:14 PM
@ThePhD Yaaay!
@ThePhD Ah.
 
That was uncomfortable because I had to improvise ~3 songs. Lel
It took me a while to figure out I should skip the song and pages immediately before it...
 
@jaggedSpire I'm hoping to do what I did with the Python Professor with them, as the Python Professor was an Adjunct like this one is.
 
@sehe oh shoot
 
@ThePhD nods
 
I need to keep pretending I'm dumb until I get registered. Then I'll ask for homeworks 2-5 and do them all.
 
11:15 PM
@ThePhD :P
 
On the plus side, I threw my Samsung Note off the stage and it didn't even break
 
That is a plus, that it didn't break
 
That's some surprising sturdiness there
 
@ThePhD waiiit that's One of five homeworks?
 
@jaggedSpire Yeah. Only five
 
11:16 PM
:|
 
Right?
 
and @Nooble meanwhile is being drenched in homework
 
Poor Nooble.
 
the world is unfair
:(
 
11:17 PM
:(
 
and thusly we all wept
 
Alas, nooble Koala, we knew ye well
 
@TonyTheLion Not all of us wept, for this was I, @наб, who kekked
 
is anyone one mumbel?
 
11:18 PM
Not you
 
@набиячлевэлиь oh you
 
VS is installing and I don't want to have anything open but Firefox and notepad
 
I can runble on mumble shortly
 
michael runblé?
 
@sehe surely
 
11:20 PM
I'll just do my homework on coliru while VS is doing its thing.
 
making tea/brb/dehydrating
 
sauna?
o.. nm
 
user1804599
Mighty Venomous Penis
 
Prison School is turning out to be a fine anime.
 
user1804599
11:23 PM
inb4 silly sehe joke about prisons and schools
 
awh
 
Lemur reminds me of Ever 17.
 
user1804599
ctrl+\ is nice.
 
@elyse whaaaaat
 
I am mixing coffee & coconut lime gelato
 
11:33 PM
sounds fun
 
AMBIGUITY TIME AAAA
 
11:45 PM
@TonyTheLion you in the presence of a lass again?
 
@Borgleader sadly no, but I will be again on Sunday :)
 
@TonyTheLion I'll be present in the face of a pub roast dinner... such is my life :(
 
@TonyTheLion :)
 
Yay :)
 
11:52 PM
@Mysticial We should return the favor somehow
 
in Game Development on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Mar 18 at 20:55, by Almo
that word somehow implies a relaxed atmosphere
TRUTH
 
> So far, writing a question has always been faster on Lounge<C++> for me :P
I mean, writing a question on SO, and then going to chat.
 
WE ARE RELAXED
 
holy hell
that's evil :D
 

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