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6:00 PM
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ADG
i think such stupid question would get me downvotes
and bad coments
and question ban
and whatnot
 
what makes you think we want to answer it?
 
ADG
and you are forgetting the motive of this site.
 
I'm not forgetting much at all
 
ADG
if you don't want don't do that
 
6:02 PM
I'm very well aware of the sites motive
 
ADG
@Jere what do you mean explain in simple english
 
never mind
 
ADG
OK that's good @TonyTheLion
@Jeremy i.e. actually very bad
 
@TonyTheLion You can kick him if he gets annoying
 
> Can I ask programming-related questions in the chat?
 
6:04 PM
@Borgleader I'm giving it a chance
 
ADG
w8 i'm not a robot.
OK you mean this: "Now, if you lurk .... You’ll get flamed to death (and kicked)."
 
reading isn't for robots only, even I do it sometimes
 
ADG
I understand
By robot reading I meant in a flash of time as I judged that you were waiting for a reaction quickly
 
reading is for scrubs
 
ADG
and idk scrubs.meaning()
i know1 used in bathroos
 
6:06 PM
its a reference to the TV show of that name
 
-3
A: 10 million questions or 10 million GOOD questions?

ColdSharperyou ding-dongs scared the crap out of me for a moment...thought you had been hacked!!!! lol. you are getting way too google.

^^ wut
 
its meta, did you expect anything else?
I'm thinking most new questions these days on SO main are probably of inferior quality
and have been asked once before
 
@ADG do you really need to walk a 9 dimensional array?
 
ADG
i'm brute forcing a 3x3 array
my research it would be faster than somewhat involved calculation
 
user406009
Guys. I have heard your demands.
 
ADG
6:11 PM
@TonyTheLion I'll try to be courteous: friendly, open, honest with no hidden insults or passie aggresive tones and you try to be correct: Do the terms you use fit your audience's level ofeducation/knowledge?
 
user406009
I now have a firefox port of my addon: addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stargazer
 
@ADG I'm not sure I follow here? What message is that a response to?
 
ADG
tv serial
idk it
 
> This add-on has not been reviewed by Mozilla and can't be installed on release versions of Firefox. Be careful when installing third-party software that might harm your computer.
 
user1804599
I'm gonna learn PowerShell.
 
user406009
6:14 PM
@TonyTheLion Supposedly, there is a 3 day review wait.
 
user1804599
What's a good terminal emulator for Windows?
 
@Lalaland ah ok
 
@elyse Console2?
 
user1804599
@wilx Don't know what the question mark is for, but I'll give it a try, thanks.
 
6:14 PM
@elyse Or the default console in Windows 10, I hear. :)
 
user1804599
I use Windows 8.
 
Ewwwww
 
ADG
it's good
 
@wilx ? It looks the same to me as the old default console
 
they made a lot of changes in the functionality
there's a post somewhere on it
 
6:16 PM
interesting
 
user406009
For one thing, you can resize it now.
 
ADG
som1 had thier hands on win10
 
user1804599
> Console2 hasn't been updated in 2 years.
 
user1804599
> ConsoleZ is actively maintained
 
6:19 PM
@TonyTheLion Also, I have seen emails from some engineers from Microsoft Windows console "team" on Cygwin ml, they asked for wishlist, basically.
 
user1804599
 
@wilx nice
 
user1804599
ugh, no installer
 
ADG
why don't u u use ubuntu
 
he uses Gentoo
 
user1804599
6:20 PM
ugh what the fuck
 
ADG
is it a joke
 
user1804599
settings window is empty
 
@elyse That looks nice.
 
no flagging
 
user1804599
 
6:21 PM
What would you name an exception that is thrown when an attempt to make an OpenGL context current fails
 
ADG
be complete with no flagging
 
@Prismatic opengl_context_exception
 
@Prismatic crappy_platform_error
 
@Prismatic OpenGLException.
 
6:22 PM
@wilx This one is just bad
 
ADG
bye guys
 
ADG
i hope this is the best thing you heard today :P
 
no the best thing I heard today was some random person coming in this Lounge to ask advice about breaking the ice with a girl
 
An icebreaker is a special-purpose ship or boat designed to move and navigate through ice-covered waters, and provide safe waterways for other boats and ships. Although the term usually refers to ice-breaking ships, it may also refer to smaller vessels, such as the icebreaking boats that were once used on the canals of the United Kingdom. For a ship to be considered an icebreaker, it requires three traits most normal ships lack: a strengthened hull, an ice-clearing shape, and the power to push through sea ice. Icebreakers clear paths by pushing straight into ice pockets. The bending strength of...
 
6:25 PM
I just discovered this
 
@TonyTheLion Polar bear joke. Works every time.
 
user1804599
ugh powershell doesn't add trailing backslahes on tab
 
6:30 PM
> Build an Android App faster than you can FAP w/ CodeBabes!
 
user1804599
XD.
 
@unordered_meow ironically, talking about those probably isn't a very good ice breaker
 
@wilx Wow.
 
repost :p
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I'm watching that, just for entertainment value
> objects: chunks of code that let you do specific things
 
6:38 PM
Man have you all notice the new tactic for advertising is like asking for your email as you read an article
 
@Prismatic soooo annoying
 
pretty much every site I go to has a SIGN UP FOR OUR NEWSLETTER pop up with a stupid animation
 
@Jeremy lol
 
Stroustrup talks about using [[ ... ]] attributes for OpenMP. Is this supported by any compiler?
 
@Szabolcs I suppose any compiler that has full C++11 support will allow you to use them
I would say most common compilers do, ie Clang, GCC and possibly MSVC
 
Xeo
6:48 PM
 
@TonyTheLion I can't seem to get it working with gcc 5.2. It does support attributes in other context, it also does support OpenMP through #pragma, but I couldn't get it to accept OpenMP through attributes. But I'm just learning this stuff so maybe I did it wrong.
The clang I have doesn't support OpenMP
 
std::make_tuple unwraps std::reference_wrapper to plain references, what about std::invoke? i.e. the std::thread constructor may receive reference_wrappers, but is not itself responsible for unwrapping them, so invoke would need to do that, right?
 
@Xeo gerd?
 
@melak47 INVOKE does not handle ref wrappers. There is I think a defect for ref wrappers in the first-ish position though.
 
Man... I find Binding of Isaac extremely hard to play. First boss always kills me.
 
6:57 PM
@melak47 It's pretty pointless to pass arguments to std::thread, though.
 
Xeo
Try again.
 
@Puppy what do you mean?
 
@melak47 Well, firstly, it's completely replacable by just calling std::bind, but secondly, why would you even bother when you can lambda
 
@Puppy idk, but if it's there it should work. and it seems broken on VC++ :)
 
lol, n4527 fixes INVOKE(f, t1, …, tN, cv void)
 
7:02 PM
their std::invoke can't seem to deal with a member function pointer + reference_wrapper as first arg
 
That’s fine then?
@melak47 It’s not supposed to work, that’s the one situation for which I recall a defect is filed.
> 2219. INVOKE-ing a pointer to member with a reference_wrapper as the object expression
 
hmm
 
> Status: Ready
Fret not!
 
oh, wait the defect is to fix that?
I thought you meant it works but isn't supposed to, and is going to be forbidden
 
> (t1.get().*f)(t2, ..., tN) when f is a pointer to a member function of a class T and decay_t<decltype(t1)> is a specialization of reference_wrapper
that’s not hackish or anything
 
7:05 PM
hehe
 
> MC: should decay_t<decltype(t1)> be pulled out since it is in multiple places
they’re aware
 
okay, so VC++'s std::invoke is "working as intended"
and thread sucks
w/e
 
Against what version?
 
you tell me :S
 
@melak47 Knew that.
 
7:07 PM
@melak47 The resolution is ready but not in any text.
 
is c++17 "done" yet?
 
We’re not even in 2016!
 
bit odd of them to preemptively implement std::invoke then, but not also fix this thing
 
Anyway, it’s not unusual for such harmless fixes that turn previously ill-formed code into valid constructs to make their way into implementations even before anything is published.
 
but they didn't :(
 
7:10 PM
If for some reason this doesn’t make it it’s still the sort of conforming extension implementers put into their stuff.
 
can someone give this guy an upvote then? I can't undo my downvote after I just found out I was wrong :/
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A: std::thread Error C2893 in VS2015

Axel PayanThe error is here std::ref(p_app->app_inst). The second parameter of std::thread should be a instance* in this context but p_app->app_inst is just a instance class. So the answer is std::thread(&instance<T_app>::load, &p_app->app_inst ).detach(); without any lambda function.

 
user1804599
std::thread sucks
 
user3790646
Huhm... Where's Lightning?
 
user3790646
In the space orbit yet?
 
He's racis in obrit.
 
user406009
7:21 PM
Lightning Rages In Orbit.
 
user406009
Also, NaN != NaN is really stupid.
 
user406009
That part of the standard should be taken out and shot.
 
user1804599
No.
 
user1804599
NaN in general is stupid.
 
One NaN is not necessarily the same as another NaN
 
user1804599
7:23 PM
Instead of introducing bogus values, exceptions should be thrown.
 
Exceptions as control flow are just one option, not the end-all-be-all-perfect-choice
 
user406009
@SamDeHaan Doesn't matter. This breaks the symetric property x == x.
 
user406009
How can we be expected to reason about things when they don't even follow basic rules?
 
indian_dinner += NaN;
 
user3790646
Hello Jeremy Soule
 
user3790646
7:29 PM
Goodbye Jeremy Soule
 
@elyse I'm cleaning up code where smooth sprint demos were the goal. Hide all exceptions.
 
hey guys, what's the best way to test this part?
if (!(status() & 0x0004)) {
	exit(0);
}
like I want to stub status()
but I'm not sure what value would be appropriate for status()?
 
How is reddit so terrible always?
 
@caps It’s full of redditors.
 
7:40 PM
reading any replies in the comment section is usually completely pointless
its just people trying to out pun each other
except all the puns are garbage
 
@LucDanton That's just a tautology.
 
@Lalaland Great. There are situations where symmetry is not correct. That is a description of behavior, not a reason to change it.
 
@Prismatic Or make other kinds of jokes, or dramatic comments about how this or that is so awesome or terrible.
 
@caps Only the very general subreddits suffer from that though. I think that places like r/cpp and r/programming are pretty decent
 
@caps Not at all. You can use reddit and still avoid redditors.
 
7:44 PM
hi
 
user1804599
 
@elyse im surprised material design isnt stickied
 
Suppose you had a variation of std::wstring that took a char * by constructor or assignment and implicitly converted it to wchar_t *.
Would you expect such conversions, if they happened frequently throughout a program, to have noticeable overhead?
 
measure it? idk :p
 
No, isn't that how the old gcc ABI handled strings?
 
7:52 PM
(Not actually a hypothetical question: let me introduce you to the VCL's UnicodeString, which also implicitly accepts ints and performs ToString on them)
 
Good work now we have 3 problems :-)
 
@Prismatic Material design is beautiful.
 
@Prismatic I like Material Design well enough.
 
My website uses material design <3
 
@Prismatic you're like the only one who dislikes it bud.
 
7:55 PM
Have you guys seen Nick's experimental pastebin thingy. It's amazing because I did some work on it.
 
@Mikhail Oh, I can't tell you how greatly I <3 the VCL.
(Not)
 
Why are you using Embarcadero? (don't know much about it)
 
@Mikhail Legacy codebase.
@Mikhail I do ask myself that question sometimes.
Err, every day, actually.
 
Are you really writing Delphi?
 
@Mikhail Noooooo.
 
7:59 PM
I don't even really know what material design is
 
C++ 03
 
user1804599
 
@elyse Ewww.
 
user1804599
MAN IN BUSINESS SUIT LEVITATING @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
8:00 PM
There needs to be a keyword to demand a dctor is overridden.
 
@Jeremy I read that, and now I don't even really know what material design is.
 
Recently discovered that I could be using clang C++11 with the 64-bit compiler, but I guess it has some sort of optimization bug?
 
that page is just a pile of buzzwords.
 
I had previously thought it didn't work with the GUI components in the IDE, but I think it does, actually.
 
@Puppy Windows 10 is like Windows 7 but with material design.
 
8:03 PM
@Nooble And also a bunch of features that I hate that keep intruding on my experience and about ten million settings windows without any unifying theme or location.
 
@Puppy Look at the following pages.
That was just the introduction.
 
so really I can't say that I've noticed Material Design in Win10.
so far the best way to use Win10 has been to basically pretend that it's Win7.
 
@Puppy Hehe.
 
@caps Probably says everything that I did not notice it.
 
Well it's kinda like Flat design.
 
8:08 PM
@Puppy its an artistic masterpiece
> A material metaphor is the unifying theory of a rationalized space and a system of motion. The material is grounded in tactile reality, inspired by the study of paper and ink, yet technologically advanced and open to imagination and magic.
 
basically, "We thought about it and we'd like a good system".
 
@Puppy "inspired by the study of paper and ink"
 
pfft dead trees
 
FYI, Metro was inspired by a Metro
Also March of the Penguins (2005) takes place mostly in March
 
user1804599
8:24 PM
Metrosexual.
 
user1804599
humans are like erlang
 
user1804599
100% uptime
 
have any of you installed a custom android rom
 
@elyse I've probably missed a firmware update, my human OS freezes for about 2-6 hours each day.
 
8:40 PM
I don't really have a specific question, I was just curious about the general steps and how safe it is. Like I don't want to brick my phone. I'm on Jellybean and considering upgrading to the latest Cyanogen instead of staying vanilla
also how cyanogen is if you're running it etc
I don't want to become a phone ricer lol
 
@Nooble link to nick's experimental pastebin pls
 
@nabijaczleweli flynotes.io
 
damn cat just truffle shuffled all through the house :\
 
Neato
@ʞɔᴉN 'share yojr note by cping the URL', which url?
 
> experimental
 
8:53 PM
> The first emperor of China, Qín Shǐ Huáng Dì—allegedly buried in a tomb - the "Mausoleum of the First Qin Emperor" - that contained rivers of flowing mercury on a model of the land he ruled, representative of the rivers of China—was killed by drinking a mercury and powdered jade mixture formulated by Qin alchemists (causing liver failure, mercury poisoning, and brain death) who intended to give him eternal life
drink this bro, trust me
 
Seriously?
 
@EtiennedeMartel pathetic. I wonder if that's still a bug
 
Wow.
 
the epic of this fail is tremendous
 
8:56 PM
@Prismatic Happened right fucking now to a colleague of mine.
 
With the latest Office?
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol.
 
@Prismatic Probably a feature. "Keep focused with our single-point-of-view™ technology!"
 
You'd need brain damage to spin that as a feature
 
8:57 PM
@Prismatic 2010.
 
@Prismatic Mercury was, for a long time, the only known cure for cihpolise. So you could either mutilated by that, or go bat shit insane.
 
I see the name of stackoverflo,ooo,ooow something like this. What's the reason behind doing it?
 

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