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9:00 PM
@Xeo I have food, but not anything I actually desire:(
 
Somebody's having fun flagging random shit
 
If you're wondering why I'm not using an SSD atm, it's because I'm sandbox testing out a new compiler on a different computer.
 
@Blob I started programming on an Intel core 2 duo. And that thing had full blown vista on it. Painful times. An i5 is great. Trust me, it could be worst.
 
@Mysticial I was gonna demand explication
 
I started "real" programming on a Pentium D.
 
9:02 PM
@Nooble referring to gaming, mainly. it's fine for everything else i do.
 
@sehe Yeah, I don't do in-place upgrades without testing it somewhere else first.
 
Live dangerously!
 
Don't Forget: @MythBusters Tackles @DOOM Tonight! http://bit.ly/1ClSpAN
I have to find a way to watch this :(
 
@sehe Yeah, I've always had a separate machine dedicated to testing various things. And I trash it quite often.
The most recent one was when I was testing out the latest Office. Terrible idea.
But that's what the sandbox is for.
 
@Xeo Conclusion: Food is awesome.
 
9:19 PM
class Thing
{
public:
	Thing(shared_ptr<Foo> foo); // 1st ctr
	Thing(shared_ptr<Foo> && foo); // 2nd ctr
};

shared_ptr<Foo> foo;
Thing thing(??); // how do I call the 2nd ctr?
Is there a way to explicitly call the second contructor?
 
no.
I'd be surprised if that wasn't always ambiguous in C++.
 
@Pris Thing(int lol, shared_ptr<Foo> && foo); //please don't kill me
 
changing the 1st constructor to Thing(shared_ptr<Foo> const &foo) seems to work
ie, Thing thing(std::move(foo)); // call 2nd ctr, Thing thing(foo) // call 1st
it compiles anyway, hope what i did makes sense
 
Xeo
by-value and by-reference overloads are always ambiguous if both could take the argument
 
is having both a code smell
 
9:30 PM
Your code already smells.
 
maybe I should do... Thing(shared_ptr<Foo> && foo, bool move)
truth be told this is actually microoptimization :p
 
user1804599
I am happy.
 
@Mysticial crazy man, you already got the parts?
 
@Mysticial sweet
@Mysticial Are you running the H110 with stock fans?
 
9:40 PM
Yeah.
Haven't had a need to upgrade it.
 
Are they loud?
 
nope
Well when they spin all the way up you can hear them. But they're not loud nor annoying.
 
I see
@Mysticial Did you ever compare compile times with and without SMT?
 
Nope. But it's 20 seconds to compile y-cruncher with 16 threads. 42 seconds on my FX-8350.
 
and you complain about compile times... tsk... tsk...
 
9:46 PM
And 38 seconds on my 4770K @ 4 GHz.
 
@Mysticial I've been mostly underwhelmed so far. I think I need to look at shifting some stuff to run from it
boot times are faster, but standby is still faster and much more convenient.
 
@Mysticial Nice improvement.
 
It's the first rig I built not to run y-cruncher, but to compile it. lol
 
haha
 
That and other things. lol
 
9:57 PM
@jalf @Borgleader @thecosh any ideas how to paint the BSG assault raptors so that they're easy to tell apart from the normal ones?
 
user1804599
victory! thepiratebay.se
5
 
:D
Why is it no longer a pirate ship symbol?
 
Ooops. I wasn't very nice
0
A: variadic boost bind type resolution

seheThere are many things I don't understand about this code: why are the arguments being taken by non-const reference why are you subsequently using std::forward<> on them (you already now the value category, and it's not going to change) why are you passing the stringization to an io_service? ...

Positively shredded the OP's code. But it's for the greater good...
@рытфолд That's what the NSA said? i.imgur.com/ugW3HbC.png
 
user1804599
10:12 PM
Clear DNS cache.
 
try a proxy
 
That's not the issue of course. paste.ubuntu.com/9983974 (verification fixed)
 
user1804599
Are those your credit card details encrypted using base 64?
 
No. It's proof I'm connected just fine
 
user1804599
Why does Ubuntu Pastebin list Gherkin as first language and the rest alphabetically?
 
10:16 PM
[AskUbuntu.SE]
 
user1804599
I think you mean Ask Ubuntu.
 
Is piratebay up again?
 
...
The irony is strong in that one
 
Why do you guys go on reddit?
 
user1804599
 
10:23 PM
@DonLarynx Because it was linked to from the lounge. I'm not "on reddit"
> comnents
 
@рытфолд lol
@sehe "linked to from the lounge" implying someone goes on reddit from the lounge
 
i go on reddit occasionally
whats wrong with it?
 
it's a waste of time, and a sucky one at that
 
@DonLarynx You asked in general. I tooke the liberty of answering. If you want to exclude certain individuals, perhaps you should make it more clear up front :)
@Pris repost
 
If you want a good waste of time, go to cracked.com
 
10:27 PM
@DonLarynx pretty broad generalization
 
@DonLarynx turnoff. Frontpage filled with identical-formulaic click bait titles
 
user1804599
omg all those people erlang-factory.com/sfbay2015
 
user1804599
such alan kay
    many guido van rossum
  wow
      much joe armstrong
 
@рытфолд there's no girls on that page
 
@DonLarynx Well. I can only say. You have weird taste. I always thought site looking like this were cheap scams aimed at people with no brain or enormous hangovers:
http://www.erlang-factory.com/sfbay2015/irina-guberman
http://www.erlang-factory.com/sfbay2015/viktoria-fords
 
10:31 PM
@sehe I swear to you that website used to be way better.
Haven't gone there in years
 
user1804599
@DonLarynx there are, and even if there weren't, so what?
 
@sehe I mistook those two for guys with neo-age hair, never mind.
 
@рытфолд Who am I going to have binary fission with
??
 
Mental note: disregard opinions of vocal chordy screen namists
 
how did the 'THE 15 MOST AWESOME WAYS TO YADDA YADDA' clickbait thing get so popular just recently
 
user1804599
10:33 PM
sehe you should write book
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
Such a missed chance.
 
you didn't miss it. You just asynchronously processed it
@Pris it didn't. It's been like that for ... 10 years at least. It's just that it's in a pretty isolated eco-system of the web
 
user1804599
This is most interesting.
 
Also, the fact that much content exists doesn't imply to me that it's "popular"
 
user1804599
10:36 PM
HASH_TABLE[V, K] instead of HASH_TABLE[K, V].
 
user1804599
And put(value: V, key: K) instead of put(key: K, value: V).
 
    void push(std::string const &s) {
        while (std::atomic_flag_test_and_set_explicit(&this->lock, std::memory_order_acquire))
            ;
        while (!this->q->push(s)) // q is a lock-free queue
            ;
        std::atomic_flag_clear_explicit(&this->lock, std::memory_order_release);
    }
Man that code is killing my brain
 
user1804599
Why?
 
user1804599
Use TBB and delete that code.
 
Good point. Added a comment
@рытфолд Use brains!
@рытфолд I can't. It's the OP's
 
user1804599
10:39 PM
Tell the OP to use TBB and delete that code.
 
i panic when i see memory order stuff
almost as bad as the dread i get with TMP
some cat from ubisoft gave a cppcon talk about memory order things in c++... scary stuff
 
@Pris for very good reason
 
0 When I complete a program successfully, 1 a feeling of meaning to my life has been added.

When I am 90% to completing a program successfully, GOTO 1
 
@Pris it should be loads worse (pun intended)
 
I just can't relax when when i see the atomic keyword
 
10:42 PM
:D
 
user1804599
I call bugs caused by concurrent unsynchronised reads/writes "Chernobugs."
 
Pripyat pleasures
 
user1804599
std::vector<int> pripy(1);
std::thread a([] { pripy.at(0)++; });
std::thread b([] { pripy.at(0)++; });
 
user1804599
That's a Chernobug!
 
sbi
Good evening.
@chmod711telkitty Actually, we do not know whether you're an actual woman. The chat doesn't convey your sex. (From what I know you're the only regular claiming to be one, though.)
@TonyTheLion Let's generalize this: "I love how LRIO complains about others <doing A>, yet he spends a lot of time <doing A>." There, much more general now, and still applicable.
 
10:53 PM
Is choosing GPL V3 on github for open source project bad?
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
it's GPL so yes.
 
user1804599
GPL is always bad.
 
even rightfold can tell it's bad
 
user1804599
BSD master race.
 
10:56 PM
The next obvious question is, why is GPL bad?
 
sbi
@AlexM. Saying an unwelcome truth does not make you an asshole.
@AlexM. Let's just switch the roles, shall we? You have a girlfriend, and the two of you are getting along splendidly/awfully. Your parents do (not) like her and want to change that by wrecking/salvaging your relationship. Do they have the right to?
Now why in the world would you think you have the right to do anything regarding your parents' relationship but insist on being treated as well as possible under the given circumstances?
I might have said this a bit tersely, but it's not wrong just because of it. /cc @sehe
 
Agreeing. I'd say if the situation is any bit as taxing as it could be, then he/she would really appreciate the no-frill response. It's not gonna hurt like seeing mom beat up dad (verbally or not) etc.
 
@DemCodeLines Because it infects every piece of code around it like a virus. GPL means you have to GPL all your own shit, which means everybody who wants to use you has to GPL their own shit, etc.
 
Apache is the best license
BSD and MIT dont offer sufficient patent protection
Also its not crystal clear whether or not GPL'd (including LGPL) is legally allowed on certain mobile platforms... really GPL has good intentions but it has a lot of legalese, just like proprietary EULAs
 
GPL is no different to proprietary
you just have to pay with your code instead of your money.
 
10:59 PM
Well. There's a stretch
 
but in addition everybody else also has to pay with their code.
 
@Puppy Put that way, it's somewhat interesting
 
@sehe Well, it's clearly a beneficial tradeoff if you're a FOSS project with no money but code. The problem is that you force the same tradeoff on all of your users as well.
 
@Puppy I can't agree. GPL would be roughly similar to Microsoft (for one example) not only charging for Visual Studio, but also requiring that anything you wrote with it charge some minimum fee as well.
 
I think the underlying intention of GPL code is a bit better than proprietary code. Also don't forget LGPL, which doesn't require you to provide your own code, but only changes.
 
11:01 PM
don't give a shit about the intention
 
With GPL you can't embed malicious intent, and if you do it can be stripped out
 
'malicious intent'?
 
Yeah. Like awhile back some game client embedded a bitcoin miner in it
 
That's irrelevant on the license used.
 
@JerryCoffin I wrote an app with VS and didn't charge the users any money to download it.
 
11:03 PM
@Pris How does that relate to GPL?
 
sbi
@AndyProwl Nobody endorses overreaction. (It wouldn't be called "overreaction" if if was considered within acceptable limits. So "overreaction" is wrong by definition.) The question is when is someone overreacting. And here, surprisingly, people disagree.
Well, my argument still stands: If you want people to change their behavior, you have to encourage wanted behavior and discourage unwanted behavior. All you said against this so far is "this is aggression!" while stamping your foot. I am not impressed.
 
GPL lets you strip out what you dont want from the code. It also makes it far harder to hide such things
(vs a proprietary closed license)
 
I retracted my answer. I made it compile by brute force, not being able to understand the design. +1 to you sir — Innocent Bystander 28 secs ago
o.O
 
sbi
:21282211 Um. Thanks. <blushes>
 
@Pris Instances of actual enclosed malware are few and far between.
 
user1804599
11:05 PM
Eiffel is great.
 
user1804599
2015 will be full of Eiffel and Perl 6.
 
sbi
Gustave?
 
" No mudding, IRC, or other games from here.
Please get a private sector account for non-CS activities.
"

What is mudding?
 
@sbi yet another language
 
user1804599
@DonLarynx playing multi-user dungeon games
 
11:06 PM
Apache license doesn't give me any credit if and when the code is used elsewhere.
 
@Puppy how do you know what % of closed source software has malware? I don't think we'd agree on a definition of malware either
@DemCodeLines yes it does. read the license
 
@DemCodeLines Precisely--you buy VS, you get VS. It places (almost) no limitation on what you can do with the result.
 
@рытфолд oh interesting. I didn't know about this.
 
@рытфолд Maybe for you. If it were (even close to) true for me, I'd give serious considering to some more rational choice (e.g., suicide).
 
11:08 PM
@Pris People notice if their software has malware in it, mostly.
 
@DemCodeLines now control+f "NOTICE"
@Pri
whoops
 
user1804599
Time for a piece of cake.
 
user1804599
Yummy, cake.
 
user1804599
lol AGPL
 
sbi
11:25 PM
Satisfying @рытфолд is a piece of cake.
 
anti-GPL?
"My code is MIT-licenced unless you're a GPL project in which case you must pay a million dollars"?
 
affero gpl im guessing. even more gpl than gpl
 
Aaaaaaa fucking Writer inserted an unremovable thing
 
user1804599
Compiling Lua with Emscripten sounds like a good idea.
 
Ell
11:40 PM
I'm not sure how GPL is no different to proprietary
Proprietary doesn't allow you the source code of the programme
Or the ability to redistribute
 
There's no one "proprietary" license
 
Ell
Right, fair point
 
It's a vague term that usually means "not free (in FSF definition) and (probably) not open source (in OSI definition)"
 
How's affero gpl v3 different? Is it any better?
 
Ell
Something about webservers must give away source code iirc
I might be completely wrong though
 
11:45 PM
It's GPL for SAAS
 
so bad...?
 
@DemCodeLines Yes. GPL is a joke and AGPL is a better joke (more laughable).
 
(I.e. requires also that you give source to network users, as in original GPL the software user would be the one providing the app as a service)
 
What restriction does AGPL put?
 
The application is not considered distributed if people access it over the network or something, so AGPL closes that
 
11:54 PM
So...if you license some code under AGPL, build an application that uses it, and host that application on an in-house server, you have to make the code of the application available to all your employees?
 
Nice.
 
Anyone who uses it can request the source
 
If you put Velcro in your mouth and press your tongue against it, the resulting feeling is weird.
In other news, right-clicking on emacs pastes for you. Pretty cool.
 
Emacs doesn't do that. Most likely it's your terminal emulator.
 
11:58 PM
I'm using putty
 
Yes, putty does that. You can paste commands into it when you're in the shell, too.
Or anything else, really.
 

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