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3:06 AM
Tomb Raider: Camera Shakes All The Fucking Time
lol and gamers.txt
> It's not bad game design it's realistic.
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, but it's modded though.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You missed the joke
 
Also there is no option to turn camera shaking off woo
Modern games
 
And with that, I'm going to get some sleep because I have to stay awake for 24 hours starting in 11 hours.
 
3:09 AM
I don't know if I'm going to last whole game with that effect it's so terrible
Also stop resetting the camera godddammit
I love edge snapping it looks like she's on magnets or somethin
 
My ‘m’ key won’t input in BE. Well it won’t input an ‘m’, at least. It does stuff though.
 
Ahahahahahaha you can move objects with the camera
Ah no that's just wind I was excited for a second
Something happened and apparently things are spooky right now
Oh look a forced gun section
Why would I want to use bow I can recover ammo for
Oh what was I thinking of course all combat here will be QTEs
QTE repeat counter: 3
 
wrong password ... even though I copy & pasted the whole thing - because I copied the extra white space at the end
 
Apparently I can research how to build a miasmic repulsor before I can research the tech that allows a miasma repulsor to, well, repulse miasma?
 
thought a heavily used government site could handle this ...
 
3:24 AM
What, removing characters from your password?
Space is a valid character no matter where you put it
 
trim trailing white space
 
~argh~ ... must be really hard </sarcasm>
 
No you don't do that to passwords
 
next time I will try tab in my password
 
3:27 AM
Jesus nothing is happening and camera is shaking like it was held by operator freezing to death
 
Quick sanity check: say I want refer to some data through different variable names by using a union such as union { uint32_t some_name, different_name;}. Is the compiler "guaranteed" to compile that into the same assembly as in any case where I don't use a union and just refer to that data as uint32_t some_name everywhere?
 
Spooky audio cues are location based lol
 
3:45 AM
hey guys, is it allowed to ask a very basic C++ question here?
 
4:13 AM
@jason You could maybe try: the Lounge guard-puppy is probably napping.
... or you could just post it on teh SO main site.
 
4:43 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes THANKS, FOR BELIEVING I AM UNIQUE! Oops, caps ...
 
4:58 AM
@R.M how are you finding the new chat tools?
 
What new chat tools?
 
@Rapptz well I get flags from feeds now for "user was kicked from room 3 times"
 
Oh.
Yeah I think it's like 2-3 weeks old.
 
Lately I've seen that more than 20 custom flags all about the same thing
 
From the xxx user?
 
5:49 AM
Tomb Raider: Breath Of Awe
 
6:22 AM
Tomb Raider: Slides and Spikes
 
yay, I fixed the problem with std::array
 
Tomb Raider: It Took 4 Slides But I Finally Remember I Am Bleeding Out
 
MS' noexcept must be borked...
@CatPlusPlus ?
 
@melak47 On exceptional cases, yes.
 
I'm playing the new Tomb Raider
It's kinda ridiculous
 
6:27 AM
 
Jesus a slide with water and spikes then slide in air on a parachute with trees as spikes and then slides again
Also everything is falling apart
 
@CatPlusPlus Wait. Are you playing right now?
And alt-tabbing or something?
 
lol
 
Tomb Raider: <sound of disgust>
 
6:29 AM
Hello
 
@melak47 I don't see a difference on the second one's code. Why?
 
@MarkGarcia I changed std::array's noexcept specification
left is what MS gave me, right is what cppref says it should look like
 
@melak47 Oh. That's ugly.
 
either their noexcept is borked, or they don't know how to use it :D
 
STL GOT IT WRONG!!!
 
6:30 AM
Tomb Raider: Why Is This Bird Spinning In Place
 
I have a question
 
But please don't tell ThePhD.
 
@MarkGarcia he'll be crushed :(
 
@melak47 it's not the same
 
@Rapptz I know
 
6:33 AM
No I mean yours is wrong
 
why?
 
Well, I suspect it is.
What's _Myt?
 
std::array<T,N>
 
then yeah it's wrong
 
why?
 
6:34 AM
declval<_T&> instead
 
oh, err, yeah :D
 
or whatever they named their value_type
 
_Ty
 
Aaaand it'll probably go erroring again.
 
nah, works too
 
6:35 AM
@melak47 I love the way you thanked @Rapptz.
 
lol
_Np
 
_STD
 
_STD _Thank_you
for some reason you can't use this in noexcep() of member functions...
 
First rule: always suspect MSVC.
 
6:59 AM
according to cppref, in noexcept(expression), expression has to be a constant expression convertible to bool
so why the hell does this compile? coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/8d996fdce18da9b0
 
@melak47 I think because noexcept accepts an expression, and member itself is an expression. Like member;.
 
@MarkGarcia but member == 3 also works
 
@melak47 Expression. Not the result of the expression, but whether or not the expression throws.
 
oh. yeah, derp.
comparison on int is probably not gonna throw :D
 
But with constexprs I'm not quite sure what happens.
 
7:27 AM
 
Hi
 
@CatPlusPlus good job @sehe is no longer an owner, he kicks people who give warning that kicking will be used.
 
In the context of threading, what exactly does "block" mean? Is it the same thing as waiting? For example in "When a thread owns a mutex, all other threads will block...or recieve a false return value".
 
@Celeritas if two threads need to write to a shared variable, you should lock that variable to only one thread at a time (bad code would just have them write at the same time). That means if thread A locks the variable first, thread B (well any other thread) that needs to do code that requires a lock first will be blocked.
 
@thecoshman that's not the question. What does "block" mean?
 
7:32 AM
what?
 
What does it mean for something to "block" a resource? Are the words block/suspend/sleep all sysnonyms?
 
if a thread is blocked, it cannot do anything, it is stuck.
it's more than just waiting, as the thread has to wait for a lock to be released.
It applies to anything with a shared resource.
Think checkout queues. If there are more people queuing then you have checkout people, those extra people are blocked and must wait for other people to release a checkout person.
 
If something is descirbed as "blocked" it means it's not taking up CPU resources, right?
 
strictly speaking, no.
As I just pointed out, 'blocking' is a concept that applies to more than just programming.
 
oh ok
 
7:36 AM
But within the context of threads, mostly yes. If a thread is blocked, it can do nothing. But the CPU must still keep track of that thread so it knows when it might be able to start running again.
Plus, you could be blocked on IO access, but wrote in such a way that you do not just site there waiting for IO.
Though in that case you'd probably have one thread dealing with IO, getting blocked when it does and just doing as much as it can when it can, then have other threads that actually perform logic based on that IO.
 
8:08 AM
Bah. Steam has stopped working with OpenGL well on Utopic Unicorn.
@thecoshman lol. I do not drink beer but this would definitely not make me want to even if I did...
 
@VáclavZeman Utopic Unicorn?!
 
@melak47 Ubuntu 14.10, was the name different?
 
@VáclavZeman apparently, that is its name.
 
@VáclavZeman that's why you never upgrade in the first month :P
 
@thecoshman Yeah. I never listen. :D
 
8:21 AM
Tomb Raider: Everything Is Wooden And Also Explodes
 
and tits
 
Fuck. I had to uninstall PostgreSQL 9.1 and now I cannot dump the DB. :(
 
user1804599
8:42 AM
@VáclavZeman Taylor Swift probably can.
 
user1804599
> timofurrer forked gabrielfalcao/sure to timofurrer/sure an hour ago
 
user1804599
Yeah, sure.
 
user1804599
> var sortable = ($(this).data ('sortable') === true) ? true : false;
 
user1804599
Eww, dat space before (.
 
8:58 AM
@StackedCrooked lol - gamer OK, but the guy with the horizontal-striped top seems to have actually died during the presentation.
 
user1804599
> The man who attacked two police officers with an axe in New York was a radical muslim.
 
user1804599
Surprise of the day.
 
@MartinJames or beheaded
 
user1804599
I should buy gold.
 
user1804599
Otherwise I'd have to pay extra tax for being rich (for working).
 
9:02 AM
@StackedCrooked Mebbe it was so bad that he's better off with no head.
 
I would worry about paying tax when I almost got rich if I were you ...
 
user1804599
Wtf, 1.2% tax for your entire capital - 21000. :|
 
user1804599
They're crazy.
 
no need to spend too much time worrying about something that's not going to happen
p.s. I am very talented at annoying people ... or at least used to be ...
 
you don't say
:P
 
user1804599
9:06 AM
Hmm, 31.219,45 EUR for 1kg of gold.
 
But nowadays when dealing with people in real life (as opposite to on the internet), more long term strategy is needed ...
I used to be nice to people, then I found out the nicer I was the worse I was treated by the people related to the construction industry
Then I started playing games & be nasty when I had to, things turned out to be much better, I won at the end ...
 
user1804599
> The government has introduced a standardised test to identify dumb people and make them ineligible to apply for any government jobs, a pass in the exam is mandatory for applications in future.
 
user1804599
I suspect the opposite is true.
 
yeah, they must have dumbed something like if(!dumb) {... }
 
if(!dumb){delete this;}
 
9:13 AM
@rightføld I suspect cheating is possible
Any reason why Europe still didn't lift sanctions against Russia?
 
user1804599
Because they're pussies.
 
user1804599
And EU is corrupt. i.e. people who work there are friends with Putin.
 
I played ping pong with Putin yesterday.
 
user1804599
You work in Ghent, not in Brussels.
 
oh you got me
 
9:19 AM
@rightføld I'm not sure Putin has many friends there
 
user1804599
One rotten apple is enough.
 
Btw, Ping Pong the animation was pretty good.
 
9:35 AM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix because USA tells'em not to
 
hey anyone familiar with matlab i have a quick question..
?
 
no
 
user1804599
9:51 AM
Audio driver 580MB wtf.
 
@rightføld maybe it comes with free music
 
10:15 AM
@melak47 At that size, it should come with free video.
 
> It seems that perfection is attained not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more to remove.
I think this also applies to code.
 
I guess that's one way to settle the tabs/spaces debate - just remove them all!
 
lol
Searching "The Little Prince" on kickass returns "My Little Pony" as first result.
almost
 
that's where you'll get aswers ;-)
 
10:31 AM
no.
here's a really odd thing- the keys are wearing off on my keyboard and it's the L that's going faster than many of the others
I lost c, v, ./> so far and < is going soon but L is going before that.
 
@Puppy from saying "lol" too much. And "troll".
 
user1804599
Maybe you should buy a better keyboard.
 
user1804599
I think one of my most frequently used keys is caps lock.
 
@Puppy I have a quick question about Clang, got 2 mins?
 
sure
 
10:41 AM
My goal is to transform concept expression requirements (e.g. { x.foo(42) } -> int;) into interface/function definitions (e.g. int T::foo(int&&)).
I played a bit with Clang's AST and I noticed that for template bodies (e.g. template<typename T> void tmplt(T x) { x.foo(42); }), the AST does not contain any MemberExpr
And concepts are templates, at least in CL
So I'm not sure how to extract the foo identifier
Am I picking the wrong approach?
 
from memory, Clang's AST does some really strange things when templates are involved.
just get the function template declaration and dump it to see what it contains.
 
Right, that's what I've done
It contains no MemberExpr
The thing is that before instantiation Clang cannot tell what foo is, whether a member function or a data member
 
what does it contain?
 
| |   `-CallExpr 0x2bdb2d8 <line:17:5, col:13> '<dependent type>'
| |     |-CXXDependentScopeMemberExpr 0x2bdb258 <col:5, col:7> '<dependent     type>' lvalue
| |     | `-DeclRefExpr 0x2bdb230 <col:5> 'T' lvalue ParmVar 0x2bdb030 'x' 'T'
| |     `-IntegerLiteral 0x2bdb2b0 <col:11> 'int' 42
 
well, there you go
C++ dependent scope member expr.
 
10:46 AM
Right, but I don't have any identifier
 
the dependent scope member expr should know what identifier the member is.
 
oh
Yes it does
me dumb. Just looked at the dumped AST and didn't RTFM. Thank you
 
user1804599
 
yeah
 
user1804599
Better a moron than a mormon.
 
So
I'm going to see Theater Equation in Rotterdam
 
> Why Do Cats Bring Home Dead Animals? iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/…
TIL cats bring you dead birds because you clearly suck at hunting
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user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz woot Rotterdam
 
@rightføld September 2015
 
user1804599
cool
 
user1804599
11:07 AM
wanna hook up
 
11:31 AM
sup lounggots
 
tell me
what do I write in cover letter when re-applying
 
depends on how you're re-applying
if you're reapplying after they told you to take the test
 
@BartekBanachewicz "It seems you bunch of morons didn't quite get my previous letter"
 
you say something like "I'm reapplying after the discussion we had, about the C++ test"
 
@AlexM. I'm reapplying for basically the same position after I was given an offer, but chose Intel over theirs
 
11:36 AM
ooh
 
It was ~2 years ago
 
Not sure they remember you
 
is it worth mentioning that you're reapplying?
2 years is a long time
 
not sure.
 
just send a normal cover letter
 
11:37 AM
Yeah, and if they ask if you've applied before, say yes, but don't mention it otherwise
 
though mentioning that you've received offers from them in the past might help
meh, just don't mention it and apply the usual way
 
^ I'd go with that
 
I mean, having received an offer before means I have passed at least some of their screenings
 
Yeah but in the end you didn't choose them
So not sure it helps your cause
 
11:39 AM
yes
it's also a very long time
 
"Heyyy guys...I just found your job offer from 2 years ago!"
 
it's not like you spent 1 month at intel and you came back saying that you've made a mistake or something
 
well, true. Doesn't mean it had to be, and I got a lot of experience there.
 
I'd go with "don't mention it unless they ask"
 
@BartekBanachewicz so why do you need an offer from the past to get this job then? :D
 
11:41 AM
@AlexM. I don't. I was just wondering if I should mention that or not.
 
Same position he said, not offer
 
yes, but he was wondering if it would be good to mention the offer he received in the past
 
I'd say no, for all the reasons mentionned
 
given his experience, I'd say it's not necessary
 
Well, browsing the internet told me that if, for example, reapplying for the company you've left, you should state why have you left it
 
11:44 AM
You haven't left it
 
4
Q: Re-applying to a company after declining a job offer

Marty WallaceA year ago I applied to a company, went through the entire interview process, and was given an offer. I tentatively accepted the offer, but then turned it down due to the possibility of my wife being relocated to another city. The same company is still expanding and hiring, and the relocation is...

 
@AlexM. oho!
 
> If they want you, they will get you.
this pretty much sums it up :D
 
> While it's possible I may be blacklisted
what the fuck
I think the key here is what you told them when you turned the offer down. — Radu Murzea Feb 17 at 19:13
I told them "Thanks a lot, it's been a very hard decision, but I've chosen to go with Intel this time"
 
and if they ask you
"Intel didn't work out that well for me in the end"
 
11:47 AM
> I would be hesitant to just blindly reapply for the position though. They will likely remember you or have you in the system. And in all likelihood if it is for the same position then you may not have to go through all the interview steps again if they are still hiring actively
 
though be ready to answer more questions
you know, like when you work at Google and then try to switch to a smaller company
 
user1804599
Yum.
Garlic mayonnaise.
 
I suppose the questions will revolve around my expectations rather than technical skills
 
they'll ask themselves "wait, if Google couldn't provide what this guy wanted, how can our company provide it?"
 
Hm, I don't really agree
 
11:49 AM
I think there's plenty of reasons to leave google (or any corporation)
 
Companies don't have a "total order"
 
k, bbl, gonna eat dinner with my family.
ping me with afterthoughts
 
dinner
it's like, 14h
 
Ell
I need breakfast
@cicada I think he means lunch
 
maybe he's a vampire?
and breakfast is had at 21?
 
11:58 AM
Count Bartek Bananacula
 
wish I bought some coke yesterday
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I don't want to go outside today
 
12:13 PM
@Cicada it's 0613 here... so he could be in the US
 
"Because fuck Google" sounds like a perfectly valid reason to leave Google, for example.
 
"Because Google" sounds good enough already.
 
user1804599
"Because"
 
12:40 PM
TRIGGER WARNING: RANT
@thecoshman Good job holding a grudge. Can't you ffs take the context into account. I don't need to be dissed by you for "ownership abuse". At that particular moment you were giddy with your newly-acquired kicking powers yourself, and you were actively making threats. I was just correcting that behaviour (in a playful way).
Pardon me for not appreciating your "humor" this time around. But you've dredged this along far too often now, and it was never rightful to begin with. Also, it's the precise trigger that made me consider leaving this room in the first place, so maybe, just maybe, you can try to be a bit less selfcentered in your supposed jokes (or maybe it really is just limited judgement?).
END RANT
 
kicking someone is really not a big deal
 
I blame StackExchange for breaking the C++ lounge ... making kicking too easy is probably not a good thing. There should be different levels of priviledges - kicking definitely should be on a higher level than removing messages
 
don't let cosh shit on you for it
 
Oh hey. Look. More drama.
 
I was done :)
 
12:45 PM
think about it: does garbabge collecting need the same privilege as firing someone?
 
ITT we're employees of the Lounge.
 
And employees get fired for 5 minutes
 
& Cat++ the boss at the end of each game which you have to defeat!
 
@Puppy I'm p sure that he meant it as some kind of a joke. However, I wanted him to know the same old lame joke for the umpteenth time, without much signs of perspective is not funny to me.
 
user1804599
nobody gives a single shit
 
12:49 PM
Oo a sensitive bear ...
 
it appears that robot, sehe and I give at least a fraction of a shit.
 
user1804599
Doesn't add up to a single shit.
 
lol
Better get up and do something.
 
I think this lounge might be a better place with no owner
 
I think that in the context of the Lounge a shit is actually quite a lot.
 
user1804599
12:51 PM
Yumm, copy pasta.
 
Ell
@rightføld I give at least 9/10 shits so surely that adds up to at least one shit
I wonder what the lounge would be like if it was invite only
 
That would be terrible.
 
we'd never invite anybody.
 
1:07 PM
maybe I should lure my online enemies here
save me a lot of energy ...
 
@Mgetz He's Polish. In Poland.
 
@chmod711telkitty you can save yourself the same energy without victimizing an entire group :)
 
1:25 PM
@rightføld I'm all out of pasta, copy rice will have to do!
 
How can you be out of pasta? What kind of Italian are you?
 
user1804599
A German.
 
clearly a kind who's out of pasta
 
No wait, I have pasta, but I have no onions and tomatos. That's why I went for rice.
 
user1804599
Onions are good.
 
1:28 PM
Carrots and brussel sprouts wouldn't have worked too well with pasta.
 
why would a man bring home the bread when the whole family eat rice?
 
user1804599
Onions with garlic.
 
user1804599
And pork.
 
@FredOverflow Nor do they work well with rice.
 
Oh yummie garlic
@Puppy They do on my dinner table.
 
1:29 PM
yeah but you're sick
 
What would you serve carrots and brussel sprouts with?
 
What's the difference between noodles and pasta?
 
more water, so you basically boil everything
 
@FredOverflow pasta = dough, noodles = rice or egg.
 
1:33 PM
@rubenvb wat
Oh you mean what they're made from.
 
that's the difference between pasta and noodles.
How long you need to boil them or how depends on the type/brand/etc...
 
stir fried
with sesame
why does Fred only have carrots and brussel sprouts for lunch (other than the main, which is rice or pasta)
 
Because that's what's in my fridge?
 
that sounds very healthy
 
int rice(int argc, char * * argv);
 
1:37 PM
too healthy
 
Well, I have become kind of a health nut.
 
What are the semantics of the ~_~ smiley?
 
@FredOverflow int meal(int argc, char * * argv)
 
@chmod711telkitty You said main was rice.
 
1:40 PM
Oo, I thought rice is const ingredient*
 
user1804599
Gson looks neat.
 
What does the G stand for?
 
user1804599
Google, I think.
 
user1804599
> com.google.gson
 
if google had a son, what would he look like? ... wait lobster thought he looked neat
 
1:42 PM
You ask weird questions sometimes.
 
sometimes
 
weird questions beat boring ones IMHO
 
@FredOverflow Firstly, I would not serve brussels sprouts, as I'd like to keep my friends.
secondly, I would probably serve carrots with sausages, potatoes (both plain and sweet) parsnip and gravy.
 
You can put caraway in to prevent the gas.
 
I love the time when a lounger pointed out that only veges were present in the fridge than ask the fellow loungers on how to cook a meal out of them ...
I am amazed that "just order a pizza" was never given as an answer ...
 
1:50 PM
> Hi, I noticed you on stackoverflow, I was wondering if I could ask you a quick question relating to C++. I was just wondering if you would be able to critique my code? This was the question: pastebin.com/J3LxRrkF Here is my code/solution: pastebin.com/DciYDvyG
wtf?
next level of help vampiring
(btw my email address is not on my SO profile)
 
user1804599
That way he won't have to be OP, so he won't have to be a faggot.
 
I wish I could downvote his email
8
 
user1804599
lol
 
just ignore the email?
 
user1804599
you can delete it
 
1:55 PM
I just answered that I don't have time for this
This is my troll-like email week
 
I wish there is somewhere I can sell someone else's email address to a spammer ... so all those people who sent annoying emails can get their 'reward'
 

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