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8:00 PM
@CatPlusPlus equally, it's nice that you can have source control manage that for you
 
I still have no idea what's important about how it looks but it looks like this
 
@Rapptz oh btw how you do "find in all open files" in ST?
 
I barely ever use that
@thecoshman No, it's not nice when VCS breaks your files because some people have some shitty 'break files' option enabled
That option shouldn't exist
 
@CatPlusPlus I use it all the time to navigate in the code.
 
I bet in the future you will not commit changes within the lines of characters, but changes to nodes in the AST
 
8:03 PM
I can't wait for VCSes that support only one or two languages
weee
 
code formatting and line endings will be completely irrelevant and configured per-commiter
 
This is possible right now. It's also horribly broken and oh my god fuck that
 
sure it's possible
 
I got cold for some reason
it's like 28 C.
 
get out of the bathtub filled with cold water?
 
8:06 PM
@Rapptz ah so you need to type <open files> manually?
meh anyways I just can't work with ST like I used to work with notepad++ of MSVS.
 
yes
 
lol wat
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Q: How can you view Obj files in Visual Studio as text instead of the 3D Renderer?

DarkenorIn Visual Studio, obj files display in a nifty 3D renderer, as seen below. The problem is, I can't figure out how to view the text of the obj file without opening it up in an external editor. Is there a way to switch between the rendered mode and text mode for graphic programmers?

 
like I use "search in files", ok it shows me results. I press "ctrl-f" - they disappear.
meh. I really want it have the same window layout and same dialogs like in notepad++.
 
> Get me off your fucking mailing list please
 
user3010322
@sehe Nice.
 
8:11 PM
@sehe lol. I wanted to say it wouldn't be accepted because references are not used, but they are :|
 
@sehe impressive.
@BartoszKP oh, where?
 
@Abyx inside the text :0 (hint: search feature you were talking about 2 minutes ago ;) )
 
@Abyx Untick 'Use Buffer'.
 
@CatPlusPlus Agreed. I think, though, that the setting exists to compensate for IDE's that love to "corrupt" to native line ends on what happens to be the active platform.
@Abyx You can search for it :)
 
well done anyway :V
 
8:14 PM
@sehe Only VS does that from what I've seen
 
user3010322
CodeBLocks has settings to be a f*** too, I think.
 
user3010322
I think Eclipse CAN, but it's off by default.
 
@CatPlusPlus or new developers
what's with the flags today? :0
 
user3010322
It's because I said f***, isn't it? :c
 
I bet $5 that's @Lightness :D
 
user3010322
8:16 PM
f***, so we can all feel better about ourselves.
 
@ThePhD Fuck that shit!
 
faggot. There, I said 'faggot', be grown ups people. It's just a word.
 
user3010322
Incoming Ban.
 
See ya :V
 
user3010322
8:17 PM
Benjamin? More like BANjamin!
 
:DDD
 
user3010322
... Oh god, @Borgleader is possessing me again. D:
 
Fuck, the mods are still counting Fucks Given in the Lounge
 
BANjamin GruendBAN
 
@rubenvb That's easy: none.
 
8:18 PM
:(
This is what's wrong with this room :D
 
There is nothing wrong with this room
 
user3010322
The lack of fucks?
 
only some of its inhabitants. And I don't mean the regulars :-p
 
The lack of sanity
 
Well... I was going to say C++.
 
8:20 PM
that's what I've said ;v
 
If I have to work with one more library that's "modern lightweight C++" and passes me void pointers I'll end up in a mental institution :/
 
@BartoszKP Want so badly to throw a "that's what she said" in here, but just can't make it fit...
 
it's the "lightweight" that should set off alarms.
 
@JerryCoffin had the same thought :D
 
@Puppy it's so lightweight they have their own collections :D
 
8:22 PM
@JerryCoffin said the duchess to the vicar
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I've been working with a C++ lib that had its own collections, in which objects knew about being in a collection. And to remove an object from a collection, you had to ask the object to remove itself from the collection it's currently in :V
4
 
@BartoszKP pure gold
 
actually, it was object->reparent(NULL); :V
 
@BartoszKP Sounds crazy, right? In JavaScript, the most popular library (possibly making it one of the most popular libraries in the world) does that. In fact it's so common they added it into the DOM API itself.
 
@BartoszKP oh even better
 
8:25 PM
@BartoszKP Sounds much like any GUI component hierarchy.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum :0
 
user784668
Hahahahaha.
 
@MartinJames only that it was not GUI. it was used instead of std::vector and such (it was created way before std::vector was introduced)
 
user784668
MK Dons 2:0 Manchester United.
 
var divs = $("div"); // jQuery - rolling your own collection, a selection set
divs.remove(); // asks the divs to remove themselves from the DOM tree,
// the vanilla varient is div.parentNode.removeChild(div) or heaven forbid
// having a refernece. @BartoszKP
 
8:26 PM
@Fanael WOT?
 
bah
I need to re-work vtables, again.
 
FUCK ME IT'S TRUE!
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum lol
 
GO DONS!
@Fanael Manure fielded a reserve team?
 
@BartoszKP has 500K questions on SO, more than C++.
 
8:28 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum :D:D:D:D not surprising
 
user784668
@MartinJames No, their only good player, DDG, is playing.
 
@Fanael lol
 
user3010322
.... So.
 
user3010322
........... so. Somehow.
 
user784668
But yeah, reserve team.
 
8:29 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum mmm? you seem confused and conflicted there
 
@Fanael For a minute IRTA DRG and I was like, "Dong Rae Gu plays soccer?"
 
user784668
3:0
 
@sehe oh, you need context - @ThePhD posted a message with the word faggot (among other words) and it got flagged. That was in that context.
 
ah
 
user3010322
This HttpClient is hijacking the UI thread, freezing it, and calling a function nwhich displays an authentication window for the user to login.
 
user3010322
8:30 PM
..... BUT I AM PROVIDING PASSWORD CREDENTIALS TO THE HTTPCLIENT BEFORE IT CONNECTS
 
user3010322
WHY DOES IT EVEN. <_>
 
'Manchester United have completely fallen into a hole for one reason or another' OK, I need beer now!
 
user3010322
This doesn't... this doesn't make any sense.
 
'MK Dons 3-0 Man Utd - Benik Afobe (69 mins)' I need many beers!
 
@ThePhD change HTTP clients?
 
8:32 PM
@ThePhD what? iirc I've seen it being used in console applications, how can it display a window? :0
 
user3010322
@BenjaminGruenbaum It's a C# class.
 
user784668
@MartinJames In three years that'll be us winning 3:0.
 
@ThePhD Is there not some property to turn that sodding window off?
 
@ThePhD You're using THE HttpClient? As in Microsoft's?
 
@ThePhD because you did it wrong
 
8:33 PM
@Fanael ..and I'm looking forward to it:)
 
@ThePhD relevance?
 
user3010322
Maybe htyere's a UI property.
 
@ThePhD nope
 
If it's the HTTP client it shouldn't do anything like it.
 
maybe you implemented the authentication window yourself and forgot about it? :D
 
8:34 PM
Hi, is there any way to get key value pairs list from a map?
 
@BartoszKP lol
 
@user yes, iterate over it
 
@user No. Maps are write-only. Anything you put there is gone forever.
8
 
@user read the documentation, don't bug this room with trivial questions please.
 
There's usually some enum property to disable the window and just throw an exception.
 
8:35 PM
@BartoszKP i know, is there any STL functions for that?
 
@user if you know, then why are you asking?
 
'WANTED: one football team. Please apply to Mr L. Van Gaal, c/o Old Trafford, Manchester'.
 
@JerryCoffin Monster Map
Uh stupid ORM
wtb real database support
 
user3010322
I FOUND IT
 
@user Iterate over them. If you don't know what that means you should read a C++ book.
 
user3010322
^ DIrty bastard is hidden in the Windows.Web.Http.Filters.HttpBaseFilterProtocol thingy mahjigger fuck piece of shit.
 
@ThePhD lol :0 I though you were talking about System.Net.HttpClient
 
user3010322
@BartoszKP Ooh. Well, no.
 
user3010322
<_>
 
8:39 PM
didn't even know there is another one :0
 
user3010322
NOW IT'S COMPLAINING I AM NOT AUTHORIZED
 
user3010322
I'm passing it the password credentials!!!
 
user3010322
IT SHOULD OBEY ME.
 
obviously, that's why it popped the window previously :)
 
user3010322
Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawr
 
user3010322
8:40 PM
Table-flip
 
too much leisure time for today :[, good night everyone
 
user784668
@MartinJames Moyes was a fucking football god
 
@user No (but depending upon what you want, chances are good that you can instantiate a function template to create a function to get what you want).
 
@ThePhD why are you using that thing?
You know, you can use System.Net.HttpClient :D
 
user3010322
@BenjaminGruenbaum Because I'm on Windows RT.
 
8:42 PM
@BartoszKP Later.
 
user3010322
@BenjaminGruenbaum No, no I can't.
 
user3010322
It doesn't exist.
 
@ThePhD you seem so sure, but it does.
You just have to get it from NuGet.
 
user3010322
:l
 
user784668
4:0!
 
8:43 PM
I use it in WinRT, works just fine for me. Note that like WebClient it doesn't have sync APIs, but then again regular HttpClient doesn't have sync APIs anyway and in WinRT you shouldn't be using them either way so..
 
user3010322
Where in NuGet?
 
user3010322
Who implemented the .NET API on top of the WinRT stuff?
 
user3010322
Where is this magic sauce I can smear all over my UNiversal Apps?
 
Aaaaa I'm gonna kill whoever put settings overrides in wrong file
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa fuck
 
it was you
@ThePhD basic? digest? did you base64?
 
8:45 PM
@ThePhD Microsoft, Microsoft did.
 
user3010322
@sehe It's just protocol.PasswordCredential = credentials. ._. I could try manually inserting it into the HTTP headers, though.
 
@ThePhD Or use something like Fiddler to see how it used it. A "passwordcredential" is quite a fuzzy term to me
 
user3010322
 
user3010322
^ That one, @BenjaminGruenbaum ?
 
user3010322
Do they have this for the rest of .NET?
 
user3010322
8:46 PM
Or just for the HTTP Client libraries?
 
That library is very fun
I had so much fun with it
 
They have this for some packages, but HttpClient you have to grab from NuGet in all platforms anyway, I have it in my WP8 projects.
 
FUCK.
 
WebClient has an insane API so I always opt into HttpClient when I can.
 
all this time, Clang had exactly the feature I needed hidden away in an obscure place.
I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS FUNCTION FOR TWO YEARS.
5
 
8:47 PM
Esp when transient dependencies means you end up with multiple incarnations of this very fun library
v v v fun
 
user784668
@Puppy what function?
 
exit()
 
where you can tell Clang how to lay out a class/struct/whatever.
 
which one? You can't withhold it now.
I still use chat search whenever I need the .NET grapheme cluster iteration stuff :)
@CatPlusPlus Zing
 
fuck you Itanium ABI.
 
8:50 PM
Consider it done
 
user3010322
@sehe I inspected the thing and found it wasn't passing my password right, due to some weird mangling a library I was going through was doing to my credential's strings.
 
user3010322
Either way, I threw out the library in teh way and now just set the username and password and make the credentials myself HOO RAH.
 
> some weird mangling a library I was going through
 
user3010322
STATUSCODE = 200
 
How amusing
 
8:52 PM
super strong winds outside
took out my power twice
 
You have redundant power lines?
 
user3010322
@Rapptz Probably those damn giant fans the gov't keeps installing.
 
the winds are strong enough blow me away lol
I mean that literally.
 
@Rapptz Eat ice cream immediately. It's necessary for your health!
 
Just, wear a brick dress
 
user3010322
8:54 PM
Also, after solving the Context deadlock, the next deadlock was because of that AllowUI parameter.
 
user784668
And that's the final whistle
 
user3010322
Now that I've fixed both, I can block properly.
 
user3010322
Finally.
 
user3010322
@BenjaminGruenbaum Is there a concept of a "DefaultNetworkCredential" in Windows 8.1?
 
Documentation: "You’ll also need an Elasticsearch binding: elasticsearch-py (NOT pyes)"
 
user3010322
8:55 PM
I've been trying to find something similar to it in WinRT and I got nothing.
 
Runtime: "The 'elasticsearch' backend requires the installation of 'pyelasticsearch'. Please refer to the documentation."
CAN YOU MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND
 
They can. They have made up their minds as to not bother with user-friendliness
 
@ThePhD not sure, never had to do that. Only time I used it was on desktop for Kerberos.
 
user3010322
:l
 
user3010322
Well, guess I'll just hope and pray and stuff.
 
8:57 PM
Ugh someone locked the version to an outdated one
UGh
UGHUGHUGH
 
lol, "locking" the version.
 
People are bad at versioning shit
Unless you really like dealing with stupid breakage where there should be none instead of you know working on the fucking project~~
 
MK Dons 4-0 Man Utd, (FT:)
 
> PROCESSOR: Intel Core i5 or faster or AMD Athlon X4
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GTX 650 or better
minimum requirements for the new the sims
 
user784668
@MartinJames Awesome, innit?
 
9:04 PM
that's one hungry human simulator
 
DF needs more
 
must be the next-gen toilets
 
Also hey new games in the bundle
 
no wait those are the recommended specs, nvm
misleading title
 
user784668
@MartinJames Good thing they signed a bunch of defenders instead of splashing £60M+ on a winger.
 
9:07 PM
Aaand I already have them
 
@AlexM. I have a two year old card that's better than that one.
 
user784668
I have Intel HD 4600, and 4600 > 650, right?
 
@Fanael by about 4k, yes
shhhh
 
@EtiennedeMartel for recommended specs they're not that high yes
 
you saw nothing
 
9:11 PM
I thought those were minimal
 
@AlexM. They're pretty low actually.
 
user784668
@AlexM. what are the minimal specs?
 
IIRC the gtx 650 is somewhat similar to my old gtx 460
which is now... 4 or 5 years old
 
> VIDEO CARD: 128 MB of Video RAM and support for Pixel Shader 3.0. Supported Video Cards: NVIDIA GeForce 6600 or better, ATI Radeon X1300 or better, Intel GMA X4500 or better
> PROCESSOR: 1.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, AMD Athlon 64 Dual-Core 4000+ or equivalent (For computers using built-in graphics chipsets, the game requires 2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.0 GHz AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-62 or equivalent)
 
user784668
So my CPU is more than good enough a GPU.
 
9:13 PM
GMA X4500 huh
the sims 2 lags on high details on my intel hd 2000
and it's ages old
 
fuck people who do this
 
actually the sims 2 lags on any level of details if I zoom out enough
this game is broken
 
@Rapptz Lounged
Rejected 3 mins ago:
Cat Plus Plus reviewed this 3 mins ago: Reject
Fanael reviewed this 4 mins ago: Reject
Rapptz reviewed this 5 mins ago: Reject
 
lol
it was a terrible edit anyway
 
@Rapptz he did what? Remove proper markdown, by the looks of it?!
 
user3010322
9:22 PM
..... Uh.
 
user3010322
SecureString was removed by WinRT...
 
user3010322
And PasswordCredentials only take strings...
 
he surrounded the numbered list with backticks.
 
user3010322
.... Er. What do I even do. <_>
 
not sure how this improves formatting.
 
9:23 PM
@CatPlusPlus In fairness, versioning third party (runtime!) dependencies is teh hardz
 
@sehe Yes--mostly prevented the list from being formatted as a list.
 
Amaizing
 
@sehe I'm talking about simple "let's not introduce major changes between minor versions" stuff
 
@Rapptz Hypothesis: People who aren't used to structured thinking, will be intimidated by structured text layout?
 
@ThePhD WinRT: Total insecurity for the 21st century!
 
9:27 PM
@ThePhD Autopost the passwords to pastebin
 
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus I'm just going to roll my own crytographic string using the Crytographic Buffer classes in WinRT.
 
user3010322
Can't be that hard, can it?
 
user3010322
At the end of the day, though, PasswordCredential doesn't take an encrypted IBuffer
 
user3010322
It just takes a string.
 
user3010322
So I encrypt it, pass it through for 2 function calls, and then pop it right back into memory.
 
user3010322
9:28 PM
... What a waste. <_>
 
What's a waste is implementing encryption for this nonsense
You only need to keep it from swapping out
And clear it after it's used
 
user3010322
I don't know how to prevent that.
 
user3010322
Is there even a string.clear?
 
user3010322
They're mutable, aren't they?
 
Which you probably can't do if you create a String out of it
No
 
user3010322
9:29 PM
Oh right, strings are entirely immutable.
 
user3010322
.... What the fuck am I supposed to do here.
 
@ThePhD WinRT: The ultimate antipattern.
 
Nothing
Mobile OSes don't let apps access the swap or memory of other apps, so it's unlikely to matter
 
I've said it before, but it bears repeating: WinRT seems to have been almost intentionally designed to initially look reasonable, but no matter what you're doing, have something missing that frustrates any attempt at producing a decent result.
 
Literally definition of mobile OS
 
user3010322
9:31 PM
I could make it a List<char>
 
It won't get you anything
 
user3010322
and then clear the memory and then repopulate the memory with garbage.
 
@CatPlusPlus Could be. Android impressed me somewhat differently--as probably having everything there you'd need, just so mis-organized and badly packaged as to make using it excessively painful.
 
@ThePhD Unless you make sure there's no String literally anywhere, it's a waste of time
 
user3010322
u.u;
 
9:33 PM
And really the chance of anything targeting your app for your crappy passwords is rather low
 
user3010322
Well, people who've never used WinRT and reviewing my code
 
user3010322
and giving me shit for using a regular string.
 
user3010322
Whatever, I'll just tell them there's nothing I can do.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum you lose
i'm BAAAAACKKKK!!!
 
9:37 PM
Wait, Man U lost 4-0 to MK Dons? Lollll??
 
user784668
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yes.
 
@Puppy did you hear about this?
 
user784668
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Terrible match by MK Dons, should be 10-0 at half time; good result for Newton Heath.
 
SourceTree is so broken god
Oh hey they fixed it, it just didn't update for whatever reason
 
now apologise
 
9:41 PM
no
 
BTW, Lucy isn't groundbreaking and it's not all that plausible (well, duh, but worse than Limitless in that regard) ..... butttt it does make you think a little. I liked it.
 
user784668
Lucy?
 
That "derp 100% of brain" film
 
user784668
They should make a movie about a person with multiple brains.
 
@Fanael they did
 
9:46 PM
Limitless wasn't that bad.
 
user784668
@LightnessRacesinOrbit pay.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/2env62/… /cc @MartinJames
 
I just thought about it as if they were taking adderall.
Lucy was just overall shit.
 
yes?
 
user784668
Yes?
 
9:49 PM
wut ;)
 
user784668
Wait, yes.
 
@PolymorphicPotato Liar
 
potato is so awesoooome
he said hi to me, eeeeek <3
 
I prefer carrot.
 
9:50 PM
- nobody, ever
 
user784668
he he he
 
@Fanael she she she
 
@PolymorphicPotato wait, I only like boys
you mean you're not one?
eeeeeeeeeeeeew
 
user784668
9:53 PM
@AlexM. So you're a priest?
 
a nun*
 
@AlexM. out of luck then :p
 
user784668
@LightnessRacesinOrbit condolences
 
Ell
Hello people
 
9:56 PM
Who?
 
user784668
@Ell Hello mandala
 
> I'm sorry. Are you still gonna raise it like it's your own?
lol
 

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