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12:07 AM
@Aaron3468 Yes. Though the panel quality seems to have gone down a bit.
Granted, last year, I missed all of Sunday cause I ended up staying up all of Saturday night playing Akiba's Trip which I saw at one of the panels.
And had to spend Sunday night "correcting" my sleep schedule in time for work.
 
12:50 AM
Oh, haha. A day well spent at least. Post-secondary seems to have a pretty active social scene although I'm not used to friendships being so distant and centered around drinking. I guess that's just adult life.
Will you be cosplaying?
 
@Borgleader @TonyTheLion :)
@sehe alas, I cannot see
 
@Aaron3468 I'd like to do the non-embarrassing ones that aren't a mobility liability. But it's such a pain-in-the-ass. So if I ever do it, I'll try to pick something simple.
 
@sehe a beauty indeed
 
@Aaron3468 My plan for AMW is to drive instead of taking the train. So I sleep on my own bed. And I'm not alone in a train with a bunch of shady people.
 
12:57 AM
@jaggedSpire Edit, then delete. Sweet.
 
At least the first 5 or so stations from the convention will have plenty of con people. But most of them get off by then.
And I need to go 17 stations.
 
@sehe like bailing a single bucket out of a flooding rowboat, then using the bucket to smash a hole in the side
 
More like repairing the hull, then filling it up with a hose :_)
 
@Mysticial Yeah, sounds like a plan. Shady people aren't usually a problem if you keep to yourself. A good cosplay for you might be Lee from Darker Than Black
 
@sehe you have to be sure no water escapes the boat, after all
 
1:03 AM
It's all about the best possible quality, moderated well.
 
doesn't mean the metaphors can't be fun :)
 
@Aaron3468 Or rather, there's about 5 stations in the middle which go through some mediocre parts of Chicago. And I'd rather not do that in the middle of the night. And if I ever do a cosplay, it's also not a good idea to stand out like that once all the other con people get off on the earlier stops.
Unless of course my prop sword is a real katana or something. But then I'd be breaking some laws.
Long swords won't do well in a train since you can't swing it. But something like a machete or a Kukri would work.
But neither are effective against someone with a gun.
 
I suck at design, I find that paying someone to design something for me will always end up with something prettier
 
@Mysticial Lee Shengshun is perfect, cheap, and easy to pull off for a beginner.
 
@Aaron3468 I just realized that I've seen that show.
 
1:14 AM
So I had to restart my save and I just finished getting refined storage and passive power running. So far it's shoddy, but I also have semi-automatic ore production: Picture. I really need to find hi-res textures for the mods I like.
I also just finished a week-long project of ripping ~2,900 songs for my dad from his CD collection, then transfering them to his phone. Thank god for automated metadata.
For a game called minecraft, I sure hate mining and crafting ^^; I just enjoy builds and automation.
 
GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE!
I AM NO LONGER ON THE ROCK!
 
are you on the roll now
 
@jaggedSpire ROLLIN
ROLLIN
ROLLIN ON THE RADIO XD
 
someone has a serious caps lock issue
 
@VermillionAzure What? You've converted to Jazz?
 
1:31 AM
@VermillionAzure ...I always thought he said "railroad"
 
Hello, Cruel World!
 
@JerryCoffin Yes.
ACID JAZZZZZZ
 
@Telkitty me, too!
 
@jaggedSpire probably
 
That's what fiverr.com is for
 
1:37 AM
@Xeo, @StackedCrooked, @Aaron3468 So there was a panel about "weird shit" in Japan. And this was one of the things in it:
So neat, but sooooo wrong in every single way.
 
> Well feminists demanded us to stop objectifying them, now we womanify objects.
^ lol
 
Somebody did something similar DIY with Cortana. I mentioned that I'm surprised I haven't seen a Miku version yet.
 
@StackedCrooked lol, didn't see that comment.
 
@Mysticial Oh god, it texts you at work >.<
 
@Aaron3468 Gatebox is waifu???
 
1:43 AM
> Gatebox: Living with your favourite character
 
oh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I'm too young to see robot waifu's in my lifetime o.o
 
I'm actually not surprised to see a vocaloid performance on Gatebox already ^^;
 
We don't need any pet dog or pet cat kind of gadgets ... such as virtual robots. We need real robots that do house work
 
@Aaron3468 I don't mind having something like that wake me up and tell me the weather. (since that's exactly what I do with my phone alarm and weather app anyway) So I was with it for the first like 20 seconds when they showed it in the panel. But it went downhill very quickly.
 
@Telkitty roomba
 
1:46 AM
It's Japan! Of course it will go downhill. It's a great novelty graphic output/home automation thingamabob. As AI improves, it might get past being a novelty.
 
@Telkitty but mah roomba!
 
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I'd have a lot of fun with it if I knew how to 3d model and animate :3
 
oh wait a minute
It's a HOLOGRAM PLATFORM?!
 
Yus :3 2d holographic display that works by projecting onto glass
 
1:48 AM
oh.
boy.
 
Some of them track your face so they can give the illusion of 3d
 
hmmmmmmmmm
 
@Mysticial It gets worse (better?)
 
what the fuck
 
wow
Ok Japan...
 
1:53 AM
@Mysticial Your waifu for 298,000円 = ~$2900
 
Different topic, I just realized that I understood every single thing it said without subtitles.
 
You're a little bit more skilled than me. I had a bit of trouble with what the guy was saying, but understood the character.
 
I don't understand what the guy is saying.
But I understood about 90% of what the gatebox said.
I'm guessing that's probably because my ears are trained to understand seiyu voices over "normal" voices.
@Aaron3468 At the panel, they went into detail on how it worked. The thing is littered with sensors to detect the environment including where you are.
So it's an data goldmine.
 
@Mysticial Could very well be. Anime in general also tends to use a restricted style of Japanese. If you can speak anime, you have approx. conversational fluency and could survive in Japan.
 
Also, when I tried translating it into English in my head, I got stuck on a few parts. Yet I didn't feel stuck at all when I was watching it the first time.
@Aaron3468 If I speak Anime, people are gonna look at me funny.
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2:06 AM
@Mysticial Absolutely... It's scary to consider how much it is worth to collect information about consumers. A lot of people put on tinfoil hats here, but government spying is not really a huge risk due to the impracticality (flagging high-risk people to be monitored more and passively monitoring low-risk people is practical). The connected future is going to be less dangerous than 1984, but privacy is not going to exist in the same sense it has in the past.
Lol, I'd love to see you try speaking anime
 
A radix tree is a good way to store strings. What's a good data structure for storing pairs of strings?
 
This question isn't clear
Are you trying to hash strings?
 
@Carlos tuple<String, String>?
Then put the tuples in the collection of your choice
 
If you hate society, and are studying for a bullshit job interview at a bullshit company, the correct answer might be a DAWG
Also what kind of bullshit application uses a tuple of strings
 
What kind of application uses tuples in the first place? Might as well make a class that describes the meaning of each element.
 
2:21 AM
@Mikhail No, the correct answer is to get a Gatebox.
 
I'm trying to store pairs of strings in a data structure and later efficiently check whether a particular string pair is in the set.
 
Use an std::set?
 
I mean algorithmically. It can be encapsulated in a class.
 
scroll up about 2 screens
 
2:25 AM
@Carlos Sounds like you want a map of some sort. Java calls it a Hashmap, Python calls it a dictionary, C++ has map and unordered_map.
 
@Mysticial What if we combine an Amazon Eco with a flesh light as a low cost alternative?
 
A radix tree works for strings because they have a prefix order. I don't think there's a good prefix order for a pair of strings.
 
just combine them together and fuck it, thats why this question is bizarre
 
@Carlos String1, String2.
 
But then ("a", "b") == ("ab", "") ?
 
2:27 AM
Literally just treat them like they're concatenated. If you wanna get fancy, interleave the characters,
 
Sounds like some bullshit homework assigment
 
What makes you think that?
Ah I guess it does sound like one :P
But it's not for homework
 
@Carlos ("ab", "cd") == "abcd". If you want to be fancy and pretend both strings coexist without implicit order, then ("ab", "cd") == "acbd"
 
Sorry, but doesn't combining them make inequivalent pairs appear equivalent?
Interleaving also works only if they're the same length, right?
 
Because if a radix tree is efficient, then you can just use the first solution to turn a pair of strings into one string. Then a radix tree remains the most efficient solution.
 
2:30 AM
I guess with an extra separator of some sort I could combine them.
 
@Carlos Good eye. In other words, the simplest solution is best. otherwise you start inserting space or EOF characters.
 
@Borgleader :o
 
Visual Studio Android Emulator
I never knew ...
 
@Carlos Maybe just turn it into a radix tree of optional<String>. The Null can be your seperator with the added perk of not shadowing any substrings.
 
2:45 AM
That sounds good
 
2:56 AM
Hi, i have one question. I wrote a simple 2D array cropping function and compiled it to an object file with GCC -O3 flag. Then i created a simple test case for this and compiled it with no optimization. When I profiled the latency of cropping function it was 10 times slower compared to a test case compiled withy -O3 flag.
I was expecting same latency since the function is already compiled with -O3 flag. Any idea why optimization flag of test case also matters here?
 
3:08 AM
I searched for 'most popular android devices 2017', result gave me a bunch of 'best android phones'
I don't want to know what you think is the best phone, I need to know market share of each phone so I can base my decision on numbers not your biased opinion!!
 
@Telkitty Does this work?
 
thanks
I search for market share instead and it works
@Aaron3468 latest figures too
 
3:21 AM
@Telkitty Yeah, this is the kind of data I was talking about earlier. AppBrain's SDK quietly collects data about people for businesses to use for decisions.
 
3:31 AM
I suppose a neat benefit of having std::variant, std::any and so on in the Standard Library means that we get to stress test the implementations
 
@LucDanton Doesnt that apply to anything in the standard library?
 
> if there isn't a short circuiting, then a instantiation circle will happen
> I asked Richard Smith about what's the intended behavior here, and the answer is that the standard doesn't talk about this.
> This is a partial implementation of <experimental/source_location>
must resist urge to jump ahead to GCC 8 ._.
 
3:49 AM
@Xeo I'm 5 eps into Granblue Fantasy.
 
> Implement new C++ intrinsics __is_assignable and __is_constructible.
intriguing
 
4:11 AM
Samsung offers emulator for the following:
Galaxy S7 Edge	Galaxy Note5	Galaxy A8 (2016)
Galaxy S7	Galaxy Note4	Galaxy A7 (2016)
Galaxy S6	Galaxy Note3	Galaxy A9
but their top market shares are in:
Samsung Galaxy J7	2.3 %		 9%
Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime	2.2 %		 5%
Samsung Galaxy J5	2.0 %		 3%
 
I don't understand
 
This explains one thing: producers try to sell more expensive models, but consumers are cheapskates
 
Yeah, those are their middle end models. The high end models get emulators. IIRC, the grand prime is one of the A series. It's been a while since I sold the brand so I don't exactly remember
 
Could it be that those models are newer?
 
Samsung S models are more expensive, J7 and Grand Prime are middle-lower end phones, which are also the ones with higher market shares
 
4:13 AM
No, Grand Prime is ~S6 era. J7 is S7 era
Most people who buy phones buy the cheapest one that meets their needs. The flagships are usually purchased as status symbols (or smuggled/counterfeited)
 
Maybe if you live in some 3rd world shit hole, my "flagship" phone cost $200 - which is not a lot of money.
 
That graph is a tautology or wrong. If you define development relative to other countries, the bottom 25% should occupy 25%. Else the graph is meaningless.
 
that is how industrialization do
 
Which phone? Usually flagships are in the range of ~$500
And Apple tries, and succeeds, to sell at $700+
 
4:19 AM
AT&T gives you a discount with the plan, so the official "list" price might be $600 but nobody is paying that.
 
I would say current flagship phones are iphone 7 and samsung S8
 
Also $700 bucks is hardly a "status symbol", in the same way a nice car which costs $40,000 or Mysticial's apartment
 
both are above US$500
because they are just phones
 
@Mikhail Oh, yeah, absolutely. A lot of consumers in the developed world buy the flagships on credit and spend that much. I agree that phones just aren't status symbols. But having sold them, I learned how many people there are that think that
 
but you can't survive on just a phone
people want flagship things usually go for flagship everything if they could
like herd animals
 
4:22 AM
Yeah, LG, Samsung, Apple, Nokia, sometimes Sony, and OnePlus. I think that's all the major companies producing flagship smartphones.
 
which is interesting - people who try to have flagship everything thinks they are at top, but that only means they are top followers, very good at following
 
4:40 AM
I am watching Jason Bourne. Favorite line so far: "Use SQL to corrupt their database"
 
thick skinned shameless self promotion, good work google!
 
5:25 AM
@Telkitty whoa and the website has iphone 7 on 1 and Pixel on 2...they removed Iphone 7 and S7 from list...maybe they adjusted to show 2 google products in top 10?
 
not surprised, google search results have regressed in the recent years, I am waiting patiently for someone else to come up with a better search engine
 
6:28 AM
Why wait? There's a whole bunch of other search engines.
 
6:39 AM
Morning loungers
 
sup
 
Pollen outburst
Got some nice allergies
 
7:07 AM
Does cudaOccupancyMaxPotentialBlockSize actually work?
For example, if I have a kernel that can potentially read from up to 5 arrays, how does the calculator know the optimal bandwidth?
 
7:48 AM
> Haute-Garonne : le funérarium prend feu, les employés fuient en sauvant des défunts
@Mikhail It's about hardware limits w.r.t to scheduling, not efficiency
Like, how many registers your kernel uses, or how much shared memory
 
I've always been surprised that OGL does a good job of figuring out the thread/work balance, while with CUDA I end up templating and benchmarking all combination.
 
@Columbo Sure thing. Make sure to change your prompt to a lambda though :D
 
@Mikhail I think they may have some heuristics but I seriously doubt it's very optimal.
 
8:04 AM
Actually nvm, I misread that. I missed the Potential, so it's a different function. That one is a heuristic too, yes.
 
@RudiantoPrasetya it's mvn not nvm, you boob
 
So I got a kernel that averages ~30 arrays together, like __global__ void _getBigAvg(T* __restrict output, T** frames, int n). Wondering if I can squeeze out some performance by replacing T** frames with a symbol variable.
I also realized my code needs more __restrict
 
use the cuda profiler
 
Yeah I am, its nice for looking at occupancy
 
learning cuda is a necessity, innit?
 
8:12 AM
yes the cuda robots are stealing the jobs
 
@ChemiCalChems I don't know CUDA and I live a happy life.
 
@BartekBanachewicz so do i, but it seems to be useful to some extent
 
Its mostly C++ and annoying tooling....
 
TensorFlow is stealing jobs, which is written with CUDA extensions, but the actual stealing happens in Python
Also, most CUDA specific optimizations can be performed by a computer: halide-lang.org
 
8:17 AM
Is the only reason why i should create a thread in the heap instead of stack is in case the lambda that i try to get the thread to execute can throw stack out of memory exception .
8
 
c++ shall rule the day and the ages
 
(CUDA is C++)
 
i know
 
Its not even C, which was a problem when I had to port some C code and got pissed that the compiler wouldn't take it. (And they had a flag back in CUDA 3 that was supposed to work, but it didn't and NVIDIA put a "no fix" on my bug)
 
8:32 AM
Okay, I got my tiny call overhead improvement by using a CUDA symbol instead of a memcopy to load 30 arguments to my "averaging" kernel.
 
the infrastructure for modules seem to be taking shape
 
Doesn't MSVC already have modules?
 
idk
maybe it's not the same thing
i'm taking about runtime plugins and all that
 
What? I'm talking about fixing #include
 
and i'm buliding an interface over dlopen and all that crap so that users can write plugins for my program without having delusional suicidal thoughts
nah, i'm not talking about that
but what's wrong with #include?
 
thanks
 
@ChemiCalChems write them in Lua
 
Python FTW, lua is for game devs
 
@BartekBanachewicz hail c++
 
@ChemiCalChems meh
 
8:46 AM
maybe i'll allow lua plugins in the future, but i will mostly use the program myself
so for now, i'll work on c++ plugins, since that's what i know how to write
 
@Mikhail yeah, no.
Embedding Python is a total pain, and Lua is perfectly fine for extending native code.
@ChemiCalChems At work I'm actively trying to move our code away from C++ because less C++ just means less crashes
it's an order of magnitude harder to ship a solid binary from C++ than a program in a dynamic language
 
Unless you want to ship Python, in which case you gotta obfuscate (haven't look at this in a few years)
 
even though C++ has static typing, it still leaves way too many holes open
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have first-hand experience that showed correlation between C++ code removal and number of crashes going down.
2
sure, one does not imply the other, but it was pretty damn illustrative
 
Oh, that's easy.
int main() {} doesn't crash.
 
8:51 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes we rewrote the appropriate parts in the dynamic component
 
I'd argue its easier to ship Python, only because its easier to find Python devs. And you can always throw money at the problem. We could have built a Python team in a few months, but basically failed to attract C++ talent to CU without offering like $130k.
 
pretty much every single thing we ship here is a dynamic/native hybrid
 
@BartekBanachewicz Also, I like how you state "sure, that's not illustrative, but it was pretty damn illustrative"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, I stated that I one witnessed one case of that correlation (illustrative), but that doesn't have to hold every time (causation)
@Mikhail it's still extremely annoying to embed it, though
 
ah, the debates in Lounge
 
8:52 AM
Lua is ages ahead when it comes to running as a sandbox embedded language
well, it was designed to be embedable in the first place
 
Oh the Lua Evangelism Strike Force is in a good mood today
 
@BartekBanachewicz So you still meant nothing in the end.
Why bother giving your examples if you're going to dismiss them immediately afterwards?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Only if you want to completely dismiss my experience from discussion.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You did already.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it was a disclaimer, not a dismissal
@RudiantoPrasetya it's hardly evangelism. Embedding Python has concrete problems that Lua doesn't have. Nothing said about languages themselves.
 
8:55 AM
@BartekBanachewicz When the disclaimer is essentially "this doesn't actually mean what I was trying to establish", the difference is for pedants.
 
Rewrite everything in Lua at once
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not really. It just means that I think it might be really, really hard to definitely prove or disprove, so I acknowledge that it's not as rigid as I might want an argument to be.
 
༼ຈل͜├┬┴┬┴ pssst kid
 
you know what else is not as rigid as you might want it to be
 
It means just what I wanted it to mean, just in a less documented/scientifically proven way.
 
8:57 AM
now, let's all fight the compiler, not each other
 
fuck C++
 
Sounds like what we used to call DeadMGing.
 
that's the bottom line
 
Yeah, especially when we know tcl is the best embedded language
 
8:57 AM
dear diary today bartek happened
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes dunno if acknowledging that your argument is weaker openly is DeadMGing but sure
@Mikhail fuck Tcl as well
 
@BartekBanachewicz fuck the whole game industry standard, seems legit
 
@ChemiCalChems lol you're not helping
"game industry standard"
 
big game or small game?
 
you mean the general shitshow has standards
 
8:58 AM
well, most big ass engines are written in c++
want me to give some examples?
 
@ChemiCalChems and at the same time game development is essentially the 2nd worst programming cesspit after webdev
go figure
 
i'm not saying it's a closed standard to write in c++, obviously, minecraft was written in java, but we all know how minecraft runs
 
the bottom line is that we were stuck with languages of the past, and at least now we are updating said languages from the past
 
what
yes I wish we were stuck with languages from the future
I could perhaps tolerate languages from the present
 
9:00 AM
from __future__ import rust
4
 
but languages of the past? unacceptable
 
@RudiantoPrasetya some day we shall, it's just a matter of time
 
@ChemiCalChems You can you weren't aware, it's not possible to use languages from the future.
 
just use -fconcepts
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes god damn, i mean we had prehistoric c++ until c++11
c++98 to c++11
 
9:01 AM
@Morwenn Rust is from the past. Depending on how you count, 2 or 7 years.
 
so for the whole 2000's we were stuck in the past, yes
 
@ChemiCalChems Yes, before C++11 we had pre-C++11 C++.
Hard to argue against that.
 
trump would
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes which was non arguably prehistoric
now that at least c++ is getting updated every 3 years, why fuck c++?
 
@ChemiCalChems What does "prehistoric" mean here?
 
9:03 AM
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's the year 2010, you have been stuck with the same language for 11 years even though it could have changed for better
 
@ChemiCalChems Actually, in 2010 only 7 years had come by.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, c++03, right
well, 7 years then
 
@BartekBanachewicz So, how did you embed python in your app? I was thinking of doing something similiar in my CAD style program
 
Python 3 is 8 years old.
Kids these days.
 
9:05 AM
ok, however wants to fuck c++ loves c++, i mean, who fucks somebody they don't like, at least?
 
did you know that before Python 3 we had Python 2
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes not defending python 3, though
 
@ChemiCalChems Pick any other mainstream language.
 
@LucDanton dubious at best
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes i only defend c++ because it's the love of my life
 
9:05 AM
Did you know before MSVC++ 14 we had MSVC++ 13?
 
@ChemiCalChems You should get out more.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes nah, the love of my life writes c++ too, so i'm alright with that
 
@ChemiCalChems Or: Welcome, Bjarne?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Less than 15yo is the future.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes bjarne != c++
 
9:08 AM
woosh
 
so one horsepower is the power of what kind of horse?
 
it's a disgrace how most of the units are in the imperial system
hail metric
 
9:27 AM
@Morwenn inb4 flag
 
@ChemiCalChems It probably made sense back in time...
 
@Morwenn true that
 
@BoundaryImposition Wow, it took me a while to get that one.
 
@Morwenn ;'p
 
i'm still scratching my head
 
9:34 AM
@Morwenn It's just as arbitrary as picking the distance traveled by light in a random fraction of a second.
Or an arbitrary number of transitions in a caesium atom.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's more of an effort to get strick physical definitions of a unit rather than weighs as much as this arbitrary block of metal
 
Or the weight of a random block of metal stored in Sèvres.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Except that this distance shouldn't change in the void, while the other measure depends on the horse and on the mill wheel.
Constant enough is handy.
 
constant but still arbitrary
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No wonder the definition is being changed :o
 
9:36 AM
solar year, earth day are probably the only non-arbitrary units of time ^_^
 
@Morwenn It doesn't, because it's defined as 33,000 ft·lbf/min, not as "the work of a horse".
 
Watt did some rounding
 
@Morwenn 1hp fits this.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 1hp yes, but if you don't have any random horse. Good luck measuring it exactly again with any horse.
 
he wanted royalties to scale with how many horses he was replacing
 
9:38 AM
@Morwenn Good luck measuring how many transitions take place in a caesium atom
 
@Morwenn You don't have to measure it again. It's a derived unit.
 
@BoundaryImposition You just have to count :D
 
@Morwenn 1, 2, miss a few, 99, 100!
oh god I remember when that used to be hilarious and we'd say it all the time
kids, eh?
 
@Morwenn It's exactly 33000 times the power of 1 ft·lbf/min. Feet and pounds are also strictly defined.
 
@BoundaryImposition that's the frequency of light it emits
 
9:41 AM
1 foot = 0.3048 m, by definition, exactly.
 
again, whose foot?
 
(I.e. it's the distance traveled by light in a different random fraction of a second)
 
@Telkitty size 12
 
I love how a kg is lighter by the year.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes don’t worry, the 2.0 version will be stored in Deux-Sèvres
 
9:43 AM
@Telkitty IIRC a foot is bigger than the average foot.
 
@Morwenn Just googled and found it to be true.
 
@ratchetfreak Why "barleycorn"?
 
@6EQUJ5 no idea
 
@ratchetfreak That's the size of the shoe, not the foot.
 
9:49 AM
Don't google: Which is greater? ` or ~ ?
 
@6EQUJ5 "corn" used to be a generic word for seed (from "kernel").
It's based on the size of a barley seed, I guess.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Interesting...
 
Or maybe "kernel" comes from "corn". Don't remember the order.
 
@6EQUJ5 e.g. 'peppercorn'
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes According to google, it is more likely "corn" came before "kernel".
 
9:52 AM
so unicorn means 1 kernel?
 
@Telkitty lol
 
@Telkitty "-corn" there comes from the Latin word for "horn" ("cornus" or something; not bothering to look up the exact word).
"Corn" as in cereal comes from a Germanic word.
 
@ratchetfreak it doesn't "emit light"
 
*"Support group for people who've developed PTSD after using C++"*

Is this what this chat room is for?
 
@6EQUJ5 Yes.
 
9:56 AM
@BoundaryImposition It doesn't?
The emission spectrum of a chemical element or chemical compound is the spectrum of frequencies of electromagnetic radiation emitted due to an atom or molecule making a transition from a high energy state to a lower energy state. The photon energy of the emitted photon is equal to the energy difference between the two states. There are many possible electron transitions for each atom, and each transition has a specific energy difference. This collection of different transitions, leading to different radiated wavelengths, make up an emission spectrum. Each element's emission spectrum is unique....
 
(Though he's wrong about frequency; the frequency is determined by the difference in energy levels, not the rate of the transitions)
 
ah shit - my monitor has gone full blue
but it's done well to say I've had it over 11 years
 
@BoundaryImposition It's gone blue and you can still type?
 

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