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12:01 AM
> Le mappage ton local, appelé aussi mise en correspondance tonale ou mappage tonal (anglais : tone mapping)
ça me dégoûte presque autant que l’idée de nappage thon
 
12:48 AM
@jaggedSpire massive floofs
 
@Borgleader aw, a lap dog :)
 
In its heart yes ;)
 
poor dog
 
@Borgleader fancy
 
6GB version too :)
 
12:59 AM
I get to play with my 1050 Ti now that I'm on my Ryzen box.
 
Thats a neat card. Speaking of the Ryzen box, how goes it?
 
1:14 AM
the beauty of internet is that you get to gaze upon everyone else's well fed & groomed pets without having to even move a foot
 
Hey, anyone here ever used Cairo?
 
Egyptians have, for a couple thousand years now.
 
abuse is like use ... with a condition (ab)
 
1:30 AM
@jaggedSpire still dogs
 
hey guess what
now some cookies will be hidden and undeletable
and all of your searches will be hijacked to paying third party websites
and this is all permanent and irreversable
 
speak for yourself
 
@user7115764 In my experience, "restore snapshot" beats "hidden and undeletable" pretty consistently.
 
I meant the senate just voted to gut Broadband privacy rules
oh also apparently they can now insert ads into web pages that would otherwise not have them
 
@Borgleader ^_^
 
1:43 AM
need more doggos
 
I don't care, I pretty sure my app ideas have been stolen multiple times. Now I spend more time and effort on brick and mortar, coz much heavier to steal
not that I don't care, don't care, just very hard to prevent any kind of violation on the internet
 
oh and the new chairman of the fcc wants to get rid of net neutrality too
yay
 
Pretty happy to not be american right now.
 
nowadays I accept the fact that any wise people know that you put yourself on the internet with the thought that you might be violated sometimes in the future
 
@Borgleader s/right now//
 
1:47 AM
@SpongyFruitcake Also true, but it's true-er right now
 
well that's depressing
 
from trumpistan import @jaggedSpire
 
@borg
 
@Borgleader <3 <3 <3
 
> De source municipale, l'enfant âgé d'une dizaine d'années aurait brandi les munitions en avertissant ses camarades de classe: " J'ai fait une liste de vos noms et je vais tous vous tuer un par un"
ambiance
 
1:52 AM
So, I have some half-sassed plan to connect two 850 watt power supplies together, then split them between the mobo and 60 drive array. The array is supposed to be powered by two 24 pin ATX cables, but I can't turn both on at once, because the power cable doesn't bridge the power pin. Anybody think this will work?
 
@jaggedSpire ok im off to bed now :P
apparently theres this "work" thing i have to go to tomorrow
 
madness
 
Last week, I saw a house on the coast in the middle of nowhere with solar panel and small windmill for electricity & rainwater tank for water. Only if there is a long pipe to send the sawage into the ocean, it's like a self sustaining house.
 
2:24 AM
@SpongyFruitcake si c’est pas dans l’Essonne c’est pas crédible
 
Toulouse
 
2:43 AM
Is depends is open source program?
 
 
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4:03 AM
@Mikhail Make sure you buy life insurance first.
 
4:21 AM
and assign the beneficiary to you?
 
@Telkitty A goose, a bird, and a sheep?
 
Something like that, yeah
 
5:20 AM
IT'S SPRING BREA
 
More like Spring &nbsp;
 
@Mikhail wew
Anyways, hello
I'm finally getting to TAPL and hopefully I can do The Dragon Book over SB.
 
5:38 AM
The famous "The Laplacian Pyramid as a Compact Image Code" paper on resizing images suffers from bad image quality because of poor image resizing.
 
@Mikhail ???
 
Oh Laplacian
I just learned about Laplacian!
 
#2, the version on the MIT website has the last figure fucked up, because the image wasn't resized in a reasonable way. Curiously, other PDFs aren't fucked up.
 
@Mikhail which website you used to download reference like [1] [2].......?
 
5:44 AM
No idea what this is
 
I just hit up our VPN
 
Looks like an image commpression paper
 
Actually everything in that paper is a lie
 
But I'm so happy! I have TAPL :)
 
@Mikhail s/lie/pie/
 
5:45 AM
@Telkitty Delicious
 
Pie in a paper bag
 
@Telkitty But no, it's TAU/2.
#tau_manifesto kappa
 
@Telkitty Tau, a proposed alternative to 1/2*pi
It's a weird pedantic argument.
 
6:12 AM
I'm pretty sure it was done "for the lulz"
In 1958, Albert Eagle proposed the Greek letter tau τ as a symbol for 1/2π, selecting the new symbol because π resembles two τ symbols conjoined (ττ)
Honestly, Pi is the weirder number because it takes half a turn
 
6:24 AM
e is pretty weird too, being 2.718281828459.
 
0 is pretty weird being 0
 
& so is 1 ... being the 1
1 is how nature makes thing
 
No, that would be 2
 
There are 2 you?
 
too
 
7:00 AM
the room needs more click music
 
user1804599
8:22 AM
@Ell don't use SQLAlchemy. It's shit
 
The rightfold opinion heuristic:
1. If rightfold has a negative opinion of X, it's probably bad.
2. If rightfold has a positive opinion of X, it's definitely bad.
14
 
SQLAlchemy is good
 
wow @Rapptz is alive
 
Yes.
 
Ven
8:40 AM
hi rapptz.
 
hello
 
Hi Rapptz long time no see
 
Ven
lies
 
spoke to you 5 seconds ago
 
Ven
more lies
 
Xeo
8:44 AM
fake news
 
Ven
fake xeo
 
9:23 AM
Not sure if I like this trendy type of web design. I just want to order a hot-dog and this hurts readability.
 
Ell
@rightfold too late :D
but, I did give up on the ORM and rewrote everything using just the sql mapper + expression api :V
 
user1804599
Use purspgpp.
 
user1804599
@Rapptz Lol, ORMs that don't use parameterised types to tell statically whether some foreign keys are resolved or not.
 
Ven
9:38 AM
zzzzzz
rightfold'd
 
user1804599
I don't like bugs, sorry.
 
10:00 AM
@StackedCrooked unreadable garbage
 
Ven
I close any website that looks like this instantly
 
omg that cute avatar
 
user1804599
10:16 AM
@StackedCrooked Scrolling isn't smooth with a 4 GHz CPU and R9 380.
 
> Welcome Why do you need my first name? And why do you need my last name?!
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked thuisbezorgd.nl
 
Reminds me of that coffee shop that required me to activate my membership card online and asked for my montlhy income
 
@SpongyFruitcake lul wat?
 
Suddenly I was a 67 year old woman earning 200k / mo
 
user1804599
10:17 AM
Protip: don't eat noodle soup and drink Rivella.
 
user1804599
The combination is disgusting.
 
You want my personal info, sure, here you go.
 
user1804599
@SpongyFruitcake Classic COBOL programmer.
 
I am slightly younger, I am a 59 year old tanned, homeless, overweight woman who likes to touch younger man
 
Ven
nice
 
10:34 AM
Prometheus (/prəˈmiːθiəs/ prə-MEE-thee-əs) is a 2012 science fiction film directed by Ridley Scott, written by Jon Spaihts and Damon Lindelof and starring Noomi Rapace, Michael Fassbender, Guy Pearce, Idris Elba, Logan Marshall-Green and Charlize Theron. It is set in the late 21st century and centers on the crew of the spaceship Prometheus as it follows a star map discovered among the artifacts of several ancient Earth cultures. Seeking the origins of humanity, the crew arrives on a distant world and discovers a threat that could cause the extinction of the human species. Development of the film...
so what if ... God was we know is nothing but a being with higher intelligence, much higher intelligence
that, does not make him/her/it a God does it?
 
Sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from divinity.
 
for us, no
 
@SpongyFruitcake someone posted a job in Warsaw for a senior dev in Warsaw and that was apparently 24k PLN net/mo
Poland stronk
 
but by definition, a God is not a physical being, albeit much more intelligent
 
@BartekBanachewicz how many sluttys is that
also, yet another afternoon wasted debugging a failed value-init of VS
 
nwp
10:39 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Does that actually mean something? Isn't that the same as "sufficiently anything becomes anything" and it can never be disproved because you can always say there just wasn't "sufficient anything" for the effect to occur?
 
@Abyx This is the Daily Mail; for them all Muslims are retarded (and it goes unsaid that all terrorists are Muslims).
 
That's not true, some terrorists are Christian, let's not generalise, they're not all monsters.
 
@nwp That'd be a no true Scotsman fallacy. But (if true) this can be proven by describing (even if roughly and theoretically) the properties of such an intelligence.
And it can be disproven by describing a property of divinity that cannot be accounted for with intelligence.
 
@SpongyFruitcake PLN is zł
 
Of course that depends on having agreed upon the definitions of intelligence and divinity.
 
10:43 AM
@SpongyFruitcake that's around 5625eur/net/month
with living costs significantly lower ofc
 
For all I care, paperclippers are gods, and, to use the textbook example, ants cannot tell humans apart from gods.
 
@Telkitty but children are also the ones that come to life most often...
 
yes obviously
 
nwp
Describing a thing (even roughly and theoretically) tends to make it not divine. A major element of divinity seems to be a lack of information and properties.
 
10:45 AM
2 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Of course that depends on having agreed upon the definitions of intelligence and divinity.
 
all old people were young once but not all the young ones get to live until old
way more people die from starvation & related causes then from terrorism
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes intelligence as in cognitive abilities? This tells nothing about what you can actually do with them.
 
@BartekBanachewicz wow
that's like half the GDP of poland
 
@nwp Also, I think that it can be disproven if there is an upper limit to intelligence.
True or not, I'm pretty sure it is falsifiable.
@nwp That said, I think many mainstream ideas of divinity disagree with this.
Take Christianity as a clear example. God is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, and eternal.
 
and full of funny paradoxes
 
10:57 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes and omnijudgemental
 
omnigod
 
11:15 AM
Anyway that reminds me we had a GEB study group a while back :/

Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golde

Week of September 7th: "... Ant Fugue"/"Chapter XI: Brains and...
And I'd really like to finish GEB someday, so I'd be willing to revive it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You didn't finish it? Or you mean, just finish the collective book reading
@ratchetfreak It's funny because it's so unobvious
 
@Mgetz A page with auto-play music?
 
@wilx it was that or link to kotaku... I didn't have a lot of options
 
@sehe I don't think one can finish GEB as a solitary experience. I mean, yes, it is possible to read all the pages, but that's not enough.
 
Ven
lol, CL doesn't define what a quasiquote's type is.
(car '`1) ;; implementation-defined
 
user1804599
11:49 AM
class Entity extends Object { ... }
class Context extends Entity { ... }
 
Hello everyone
Can someone help with a problem I am having whiile trying to write some code in Arduino?
 
@PorFavorDama wrong channel
 
Yes but I didn't know which one to enter :/
I couldn't find I mean :D
 

C++ Questions and Answers

Solve problems and approach solutions. Just ask and lurkers wi...
 
Oh seems like noone is there but thank you! :)
 
12:04 PM
@PorFavorDama people are idling in there waiting for questions...
 
@ratchetfreak thank you !
 
12:16 PM
Today I made a script 3~4x faster simply by reducing the compression level of a file.
I like it when things are simple.
 
@Morwenn explain?
 
@Mgetz One of our services was way too slow, and most of the time was spent making a .tgz from a 2.3G file.
 
ah
 
> Cancer du colon : la prévention au bout des doigts
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
mmm fuckers at the bike shop didn't do my valves as the part of the initial setup
seems I'll have to do it myself
 
12:26 PM
Anger always helps
 
@SpongyFruitcake aiiiight
 
@BartekBanachewicz bby I'll do all your valves 4 free
 
12:46 PM
Heisenbug on a remote system… FML
 
@Potatoswatter Some friday lovin
 
12:57 PM
@SQLserving using std::list is an exercise in slowing down code. — Borgleader 15 secs ago
inb4 counter example
 
I only use std::list when I need strong iterator invalidation guarantees.
 
user1804599
If something has units, is it unitted or united?
 
it "is with units" or "has units"
why bother doing it in one word
 
@Morwenn Nice thing to say when you're asked "what's the point in std::list over std::vector"
 
@Rerito Also sorting non-moveable objects x)
Not sure this is an actual use case.
 
1:11 PM
or when you absolutely need the constant-time insert/append
 
@ratchetfreak Append is constant time with vector too (amortized)
 
amortized is a lie in real-time stuff
though I doubt time budget is that tight that you can afford to pay for pointer chasing over a memcpy
 
Yeah but you're right on a strict data structure pov
 
and when doing real-time there I believe should be a budget for rare costs that only need to happen once in a while
that's when the amortize algo can do the expensive step
though it needs coordination to avoid all data structures doing the expensive step at once
and creating enough headspace to let the expensive op be delayed a bit
 
1:51 PM
@ratchetfreak That's what's generally known as "soft real time". I.e., there are at least some deadlines that can be missed, as long as you don't miss too many, too often, or by too much. Most real time programming is "soft" to at least some degree (but there is often a critical path--i.e., some deadlines that absolutely must always be met).
 
 
Ha! I knew the title text was about the battery charge!
 
@JerryCoffin even in hard real time you could afford to leave some headspace in the critical path for the occasional operation
 
Ven
2:54 PM
@BartekBanachewicz out of perl love
 
nwp
3:16 PM
What is the benefit of explicit again? It keeps preventing conversions that I want to happen and makes me write stupid boiler plate code.
 
@nwp It's in the google style!!!
(They applied the google style blindly at my previous jewb and it sucked for this particular rule)
 
@nwp it catches conversions for code that looks like e.g. return 42;
 
nwp
right now I cannot initialize a vector<tuple> with {{stuff}} syntax because that would implicitly use an explicit constructor of tuple
am I really supposed to add an explicit cast for every element? that cannot be right
 
I solve that by using C++17
 
Ell
@rightfold unitfied :D
 
user1804599
3:43 PM
Seems I want vector space.
 
3:59 PM
Easy, std::vector<char> { ' ' }
 
user784668
@Morwenn Happened to me once or twice, actually.
 
user784668
@Morwenn But I used std::vector<std::unique_ptr<T>> instead
 
4:16 PM
@Fanael That sounds like a sad story.
 
user784668
@Morwenn SAD!
 
@SpongyFruitcake it’s happening
 
broken layout good job anet
 
4:33 PM
Here's a tip, before getting operated if you get an epidural... Make sure the doctors wait enough before they cut you open.
Actually, they can cut you open but some inner organs might pretty much feel everything.
 
here's a tip get competent doctors
 
@SpongyFruitcake These were the competent doctors
 
you probably need to readjust your definition of competent
 
4:52 PM
It's not like I had much of a choice. Thought the team did react quick enough and gave me something that knocked me off really fast
 
Nah, I don't know exactly,
 
user1804599
@Ven @Ell <3_<3
 
user1804599
second <<< _Just <<< documentBody <<< ix vertexID .= vertex
 
Ell
5:12 PM
cool
I don't know what most of that means
 
It's cool nonetheless
 
I'm not exactly sure what you claim has been checked and verified, but I can read the source code, and so can you. I think there has been some misunderstanding about what has been said/asked. (Perhaps if you linked to the relevant discussion in your question, we can properly appreciate the inputs) — sehe 4 mins ago
Am I missing something?
It's bloddy open-source. That means the source is open, right.
 
open as in beer?
 
@SpongyFruitcake Very nice. My coworker is already depresed
@SpongyFruitcake Nah. That'd pretty much mean it's always drained
 
Whoever invented caps lock should be forced to read bad SO questions for eternity. — Mysticial 6 secs ago
 
5:24 PM
@Borgleader Yeah. In 80% of cases it doesn't matter, and in those cases it could easily be that std::list is an exercise in reducing complexity (by avoiding iterator invalidation issues etc.. It's very nice to have member .sort() and .remove_if() and then we don't even mention freebies like .splice())
 
 
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6:28 PM
@Mysticial read the comments (the last 3)
 
6:41 PM
@Mysticial The username checks out.
There should be a warning flag on user with username in all caps.
 
user1804599
7:02 PM
> Scotch has the benefit of raising a player's Strength and Charisma by one for a short time, at the cost of lowering Intelligence.
 
user1804599
Nice!
 
@Mysticial On Ubuntu num-lock is turned off by default. So pressing zero activates "Insert" mode. Which leads to brief moments of total chaos.
It's the worst default ever.
 
@StackedCrooked I hate that too. Though I think grub can be configured to turn it on by default.
 
I once managed to completely disable it after some research. But a year later I reinstalled my OS and forgot how I did it.
So I've learned to avoid keypad at all. Thanks Ubuntu!
Also there's no "ON" key for keypad. It's a toggle.
So if you don't know the state you first need to check by using the keypad. Total flow breaker during coding.
 
wasn't NumLock settable in BIOS
 
7:13 PM
Oh. I should check that.
 
ISTR playing with that
 
Never thought to check the BIOS.
 
@StackedCrooked Never used it anyways. Well. Very rarely. For just-numbers. But that happens... once a week tops
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix There is warning flag.
 
tbh I use the numpad for most things except the 1-9 keys
 
user1804599
Awesome!
 
8:00 PM
Sympy running on Jupyter might just replace a whole bunch of calculus websites I've used <3
 
So I spent all of last night trying to get Win10 Anniversary update on my Haswell box. The update failed like 5 times. So I tried using Microsoft's ISO creator, and that download failed 6 times on 4 different computers. Their USB flash drive installer didn't recognize my flash drive. In the end, I had to torrent the ISO.
Ridiculously stupid, but it worked.
 
8:14 PM
Lol, I remember that the same update had given me a lot of trouble installing it. I'm not sure if I even have it at this point, but windows update stopped hassling me about it and seems to still update things.
 
It was about 6 months ago when I first put Win10 Anniversary on that box. But getting that Anniversary update through Windows Update failed multiple times. So I ended up using the media creation tool to manually update it.
But the media creation tool didn't work at all last night, regardless of which computer I ran it on and what OS I ran it from.
I tried to use that same Win10 installation I did 6 months ago, but it stopped booting when I added my two SAS controllers.
Win7, Ubuntu, and safe mode worked. As well as a fresh install of Win10.
 
Weird, maybe they forgot to backport new drivers they included in the iso.
 
It hung even before I installed the drivers.
Windows Update doesn't pick up the drivers for those SAS cards. Too specialized I assume.
So I have to do them manually.
Ubuntu OTOH has them already.
I'll know tonight if I can get all 16 hard drives running on that box.
 
8:33 PM
@Mysticial I'd be happy if I could have more than 1hdd connected with anything else than USB
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Multiple internals?
 
Haha, good luck. Windows does support [that many], but it might be a messy hack to get it working
 
@Aaron3468 It worked fine on my 4770K box. 16 swap drives + a boot drive.
I'm just trying to transfer them to my 5960X box.
And if that works out, I plan to throw in 8 more drives. That'll officially max out the capability of my motherboard.
At least without getting new cards.
 
That moment when there is no more drive letter available...
 
8:39 PM
:D That sounds like a plan! To push it further, would you need to start swapping banks of hard drives?
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix 24 swap drives + 2 boot drives.
You can also NTFS mount them.
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix That's relatively easy to work around, you just address multiple drives as one volume
 
well windows kind of support mount point now but the drive letter always sounded funny
It remind me the time when my windows was installed to drive D:
and all the apps with drive C hardcoded
 
And drive E for the optical drive.
I had to mount some of my game images on E specifically.
 
So I had to plug in a USB drive that mounted to drive C to use some apps
 
9:01 PM
hi eeryone
everyone*
 
Xeo
@Mysticial Speaking of drives. Did I mention that my Gradle build thingy failed on one of our build servers?
I do a subst A: C:\long\build\path to work around the path-limit on Windows, and apparently one of our build servers has an actual FDD on A: still
 
Oh fuck the path-limit on Windows.
11
Felines have barbed penises, I can't see the sex slaves ever being happy. — Separatrix 13 hours ago
That site is weird.
 
Xeo
9:55 PM
@Mysticial yee
 
Xeo
10:07 PM
> Republican leaders of the House of Representatives pulled the legislation due to a shortage of votes despite desperate lobbying by the White House and its allies in Congress, ensuring that Trump's first major legislative initiative since taking office on Jan. 20 ended in failure.
hahaha
 
rekt
 
I guess he got tired of winning.
 
nwp
nah, he will spin it into a win
 
The downside is that now he'll want to make more executive orders instead of legislating :/
 
nwp
"I did that on purpose you know? To see who is loyal, to see who loves America. And now I know. Now some people will be never have a job again and I can start making America great again."
 
10:17 PM
The solidarity being shown against him is a pretty powerful political statement, and eventually it'll have to be acknowledged...
 
10:27 PM
@nwp Looks like Trump already did that:
> “I think the losers are Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer because now they own Obamacare. They own it, 100 percent own it.”
 
@Aaron3468 He'll dismiss it as the whining of a bunch of losers and haters who don't want to make America Great Again
A republican representative from Alabama in favor of the bill said on NPR a little while ago that the Freedom Caucus weren't acting like conservatives because they kept saying no to the bill no matter how far right they shifted the bill.
Trump's also said that it didn't get any votes from Democrats, with the nice implication that Democrats need to grow up and help fix the bill instead of being pointlessly obstructionist
the irony made my day
 
Much harder to dismiss if he trips up and people take the chance to oust him, but yes, I don't think he'll ever admit he makes mistakes.
@jaggedSpire I can appreciate it too. The democrats haven't yet shut down the government ^^;
 
also great: Republicans voted dozens of times to repeal Obamacare under Obama, but now it's got a chance to actually pass and the replacement that they should have been working on for years has been unveiled in all its tumorous glory they're not doing it
 
IIRC, they also tried to get the courts to declare Obamacare unconstitutional - but failed.
 
Mostly because someone lawyered the hell out of it and used a loophole to make people pay for not having insurance, though, right?
The limited conservatives I've actually spoken to seem to regard that as the crowning offence
 
10:44 PM
We have at least 2 of them who are regulars here.
But admittedly, this room and AFAICT - SE users in general tend to be left-leaning.
 
You are awefully upset about one downvote. Life will balance out I assure you. I would also downvote catch(...){}, because while it appears to work on your box, it is the incorrect answer. You, also seem to be blaming the question. the question was and still is, how do we compare boost::system::error_category correctly? New information was brought to light and added to the question after the fact, via an edit, for the benefit of anyone reading, but the question remains the same and is still outstanding. — Christopher Pisz 2 hours ago
The guy has an apt surname, I can say that.
in Discussion between sehe and Christopher Pisz, 8 mins ago, by sehe
Life will balance out, sure. That doesn't mean I can't give you feedback on how you treat people.
in Discussion between sehe and Christopher Pisz, 7 mins ago, by sehe
Don't dismiss things because you don't you are frustrated. We're not stupid. Neither are you. So, work together.
 
oh my
 
Sometimes people push just the right buttons.
Sigh.
 
user1804599
children = List.mapMaybe (sequence <<< ((/\) <*> Map.lookup `flip` vertices))
                         (vertex ^. vertexChildren)
 
user1804599
Functional programming at its finest.
 
nwp
10:59 PM
@rightfold I love that "pray that it works"-operator in there
 
user1804599
It's the pair operator.
 
user1804599
It takes two arguments and returns the pair of them.
 
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