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12:00 AM
Ooooh shiny, Darth Vader hat for participation on meta. How appropriate.
 
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Q: Why does GCC use multiplication by a strange number in implementing integer division?

qiubitI've been reading about div and mul assembly operations, and I decided to see them in action by writing a simple program in C: File division.c #include <stdlib.h> #include <stdio.h> int main() { size_t i = 9; size_t j = i / 5; printf("%zu\n",j); return 0; } And then generatin...

^^ Poll: Who thinks that question is obvious/not obvious?
 
Ven
the constant isn't
 
^ Yeah, its a reasonable question.
 
@Mysticial It is not obvious to me.
 
I've personally seen it (and use it in other contexts) so often that I take it for granted. But I'm more curious about the "average" person.
 
12:14 AM
@Mysticial For me it is the same category as the things on Bit Twiddling Hacks page. Definitely not obvious.
 
I've noticed that a disproportionally large amount of C and C++ questions seem to hit the hot questions list. I wasn't sure if there's some observational bias there. But when I look at this: stackoverflow.com/…
The answer is no. That's half of them.
 
C/C++ is taught in schools
 
@rightfold I studied control flow graphs and basic blocks. Detecting a missing return is almost trivial now:
private fun FunctionDefinition.detectMissingReturn() {
    if (returnType() !== VoidType) {
        val exit = controlFlowGraph.values.last()
        if (exit.isReachable && exit.isOpen()) {
            root().warn("function ${name()} does not return a result on all code paths")
        }
    }
}
 
@fredoverflow You solved the halting problem? :P
 
@Mysticial I don't see how you got that from what I wrote...?
It's a simple static analysis. It won't catch infinite loops or such.
 
12:20 AM
a halting problem
 
@fredoverflow Detecting a missing return with 100% accuracy is the same as determining whether it's possible to reach a certain point in the program. That's the same as determining if the code before that ever terminates which is the halting problem.
 
When static analysis sees a loop, it assumes that the loop will terminate. What else would it do? It can't execute the loop :)
 
What if the loop doesn't terminate?
 
Static analysis is not concerned with infinite loops.
 
Idk, ReSharper checks for the return keyword
 
12:26 AM
@fredoverflow It can in theory. A computer is a finite state machine. The compiler can analyze all possible states going into the loop. Run them at compile-time and see what happens. But I can't guarantee that the compiler itself will ever terminate. :)
 
Let's look at a simple example:
char * indexOf(char x, char * p)
{
    for (; *p; ++p)
    {
        if (*p == x) return p;
    }
    // missing return!
}
This is what I'm talking about.
 
@fredoverflow So, if I preceded my code with a while(true) ReSharper will gray out the remaining bits as "unreachable"
 
If the loop terminates (and static analysis has to assume that it will), the function won't return a value. This is what I want to warn about.
 
@fredoverflow mysticial was compiled with -pedantic this morning, nevermind him :)
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Ven
@fredoverflow problem is that your code will warn on if (a) {} else {}
right?
 
12:29 AM
What is else b {} supposed to mean?
 
Ven
fixeth
 
@Ven You mean like this?
int abs(int x)
{
    if (x < 0)
    {
        return -x;
    }
    else
    {
        return x;
    }
}
Static analysis won't complain, because it can figure out that control flow can never reach past the if.
That's the if (exit.isReachable ... part above.
 
that is boring, what if it throws an exception
 
There are no exceptions in C.
 
@Mikhail Then the function exits...
 
12:32 AM
But you would handle throw the same as return in this regard.
 
Another complication, you can't always catch them :-)
 
Ven
@fredoverflow what's controlFlowGraph.values.last then?
 
@Ven The last basic block. Here is the control flow graph of abs:
0 -> [*]  [JumpIf (< : int ) 1 else 2]
1 -> [*]  [return - : int ] ...RIP... [Jump 3]
2 -> [*]  [return x : int ]
3 -> [ ]  []
Note how I. jumping over the else is dead (generated) code, and II. the exit block is not reachable (has no star).
 
Who heck keeps up-voting bullshit C++ questions? stackoverflow.com/questions/41293335/…
 
@fredoverflow Actually, I was wrong. The halting problem is solvable for a real-life computer. Based on the fact that a real life computer is a finite state machine.
Since the interpreter can iterate the loop. On each instruction, the state changes. But if the computer only has N states, you will know within N steps whether the program terminates or you revisit a state which implies an infinite loop.
 
Ven
12:46 AM
The number of possible states is a bit too much tho.
 
@Ven :)
 
Especially given how much RAM Mysticial has.
 
A better claim is that a solution exists, but its still a "problem"
 
so many police patrolling ... apparently they foiled a terror attack with 'one of the most substantial plots'
 
The finite state machine thing is a nice concept. It's finally how I managed to tackle the mental road blocks that prevented me from understanding a lot of the necessary number theory to write that stupid Pi program.
 
1:16 AM
So, CodeReview has a "beginner" tag, maybe we can have one for SO proper?
Somehow this answer makes me angry:
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A: Are atomic variables lock-free?

kuroi nekoMarketting and cool factor aside, it does not make a twopenny toss of a difference whether the magic C++ syntactic (brown) sugar ends up implementing a direct bus lock or a mutex (which might rely on bus locks but, as a commentator noted, takes advantage of OS internals to do it in a more efficie...

 
nwp
@Mikhail I'm tempted to comment something along the lines of "After reading this I wonder if you have any idea what lock-free means" but I really shouldn't.
 
needs more downvotes
Its wrong is in spirit, which is worst kind of wrong
 
omg, attention whoring so easy on outdoors.stackexchange.com, I posted a question and got over 400 views in 12 hours time.
 
fairly accurate /cc @jaggedSpire
 
Ell
1:29 AM
@Borgleader there should be will power too
 
@Borgleader lol
 
1:45 AM
lol
 
I'm also literally doing this, except I'm every person at once
 
RIP
 
its not that bad, I don't have a bug tracker
and the GUI has no tests
 
2:06 AM
WTF?
@Telkitty Good for you if that is what you were after.
Man, I want to play Black & White game now.
 
@Mikhail That would be nice to play again too.
And Magic Carpet was fun too.
 
2:51 AM
Used the growl api
ger
 
3:10 AM
@wilx Aleppo's an important topic, and biased fake news sells advertising space
 
3:24 AM
I wonder whether I should setup my own mail server
I have no need for it
but since the capability is there, I am tempted ...
 
4:13 AM
must resist urge to buy FFX-2 HD Remaster
 
4:33 AM
So somebody, finally, decided to do the obvious brute implementation of text rendering in OGL wdobbie.com/post/gpu-text-rendering-with-vector-textures
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The ternary operator needs higher precedence
 
4:56 AM
The HLSL source code shown below compiles to just 32
assembly instructions, contains only two division instructions and
no transcendental functions, square roots, loops, or branching.
But division is a loop, and probably worse than a transcendental...
 
 
1 hour later…
6:13 AM
April fools is my favourite festival. All dumb behaviours are forgiven that day. It's a proof that how broadminded people can be. — Telkitty 30 secs ago
 
 
2 hours later…
user1804599
8:00 AM
Happy birthday rightfold
14
 
Sup guise
 
user1804599
9:14 AM
@Mikhail What video game is that?
 
@rightfold 4realz?
> I recently joined JetBrains as Developer Advocate for their (our) C++ related tools
@MarkGarcia What is a Developer Advocate?
@MarkGarcia Can you imagine many years down the line, when version 22 of Catch comes out? :)
 
@fredoverflow lol
@fredoverflow He specifically discussed that in the podcast.
 
Yeah, I'm not gonna listen to that podcast any time soon, so...
Can you explain it to me?
 
tl;dl: Dev Evangelist but with an emphasis on also getting feedback from the community to Jetbrains, whereas Dev Evangelist connotes being more of a one-way, salesman-esque job.
 
So basically, he browses reddit for JetBrains?
 
9:24 AM
His main job is actually to involve himself in the community. So he can do his own open source projects (Catch) and join user groups and conferences. Quite nice.
 
I wonder how Phil Nash caught JetBrains' attention to begin with.
 
@fredoverflow audible sigh
 
hehe
 
@wilx not surprising at all. Given the number of independent reporters in the field (~0), and given the emotional impact of the topic, almost anything will fly.
 
9:48 AM
@Telkitty Running MTA is fairly complicated if it is accessible from wide Internet, IMHO. I would recommend against that.
 
9:59 AM
@caps I know Q_Q
I need some free time to see how I can fix it.
It's like that since I last updated jekyll, I think.
Dec 19 at 19:07, by R. Martinho Fernandes
But of course it's some hipster Ruby bullshit so updates are designed to break everything.
 
move fast, break things, loud noises!!
 
@Mikhail Interesting. However the demo renders empty grids in FF, Chrome and Chromium for me. It is probably the open source Radeon drivers that are faulty.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow JAWOHKL
 
My colleague was debugging a performance issue yesterday and found that there's a sem_post that often takes over a microsecond. Which is weird, since it's not a blocking operation (IIRC).
 
user1804599
10:08 AM
@fredoverflow ew imperative programming
 
Guys who've dealt with LLVM/Clang libTooling stuff, do you turn on LLVM_ENABLE_EH? /cc @ThePhD @Puppy
 
Ven
10:21 AM
@rightfold happy bday!
 
@Mikhail Ah, that game is pretty fun.
 
@Mikhail Looks quite good! And renders so fast. Though people in the comments are spotting artifacts that are due to OpenGL using floating point
 
@Aaron3468 Is it because single-precision is too low?
 
Well, at certain levels of zoom, the conversion to screen coordinates (integer) leaves small gaps between the primitive objects being rendered to screen.
@Mysticial But yes, fairly sure that that's the case
 
10:37 AM
double-precision FTW
 
My guess is that it's due to lack of hinting and kerning.
There's a reason font files aren't just a bunch of bezier curves.
 
ClearType FTW
 
Fair point! Though it's definitely a rendering issue, not an issue with the way it's stored
 
TTF fonts come with programs in a Turing-complete language for rendering.
 
We need a TTF shader language! #veryBadIdeas
 
10:42 AM
(Other font formats have those programs as well; I just don't know for sure where the language is Turing-complete or not)
Glyph substitution in OpenType is also Turing-complete ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/131 (though not relevant here)
 
Xeo
@MarkGarcia Is that some kinda Canadian flag to turn on LLVM? /cc @EtiennedeMartel
 
@Xeo lol
Exception Handling
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes This quote is golden
> as far as I can tell, the more usual practice is to just try things at random until one eventually either gets it working by accident, or gives up, without having learned anything useful either way.
@MarkGarcia Exception Handling in Canada: "I'm sorry. It's my fault your program failed"
 
@Mikhail Pretty cool, but to be honest this is what takes the least effort in text rendering.
 
@Aaron3468 Canada++ has try {} sorry {} instead of catch.
7
 
10:48 AM
What I really wanna see is an implementation of the TTF VM.
 
Can I get some help? I am having trouble with MinGW and CLion IDE.
 
Ven

C++ Questions and Answers

Solve problems and approach solutions. Just ask and lurkers wi...
 
Thanks :0
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That would be a huge project to undertake, yeah?
 
@Aaron3468 Hence why I'm not very impressed by bezier curve rendering on the GPU.
(Really, who is?)
@Aaron3468 The idea has been running around the back of my head ever since I worked with that stuff, but I already have too much on my plate.
 
11:03 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes What do you have on plate right now?
 
True. OpenGL is a bit of a mess honestly, but any proper font rendering is welcome in it.
 
@wilx nonius is stacking up PRs, bugs, and feature requests; ogonek is undergoing a massive cleanup before a push for a first release; and I started this recently github.com/rmartinho/pbmx
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I see. Well, Ogonek is the only one that matters! :)
 
It turns out that you can use crypto to play poker against dishonest opponents without a deck of cards and without a centralised third party.
And s/poker/other games/
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Interesting.
 
11:07 AM
Mental poker is the common name for a set of cryptographic problems that concerns playing a fair game over distance without the need for a trusted third party. The term is also applied to the theories surrounding these problems and their possible solutions. The name comes from the card game poker which is one of the games to which this kind of problem applies. A similar problem is flipping a coin over a distance. The problem can be described thus: "How can one allow only authorized actors to have access to certain information while not using a trusted arbiter?". (Eliminating the trusted third-party...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes > parts of the TrueType hinting virtual machine were patented by Apple, a fact not mentioned in the TrueType standards.
^ might be worth noting
 
@Aaron3468 The patents have since expired.
 
Wonderful
 
heading home to visit mah parents for Christmas today
 
@Aaron3468 Patents are usually limited to 20 years without possibility of extension
 
11:17 AM
Ah, I confused it with copyrights, which are significantly longer.
 
Process => patent; identifier => trademark; expression => copyright.
Though copyright gets fuzzy with the whole software thing :/
 
software just gets fuzzy, flat out
 
Copyright is usually for protecting the expression of an idea, as opposed the idea itself (patents!), but that isn't going to stop Oracle from trying.
 
starting to think we'll get a special "software" protection
 
That's perhaps why every process is given a buzzname, e.g. TrueType
 
11:25 AM
hmm
see article on BBC, scientists claim to have explained why sex exists
 
Names are covered by trademarks! What was patented was the virtual machine and bytecode for hinting. It didn't stop others from doing different hinting algorithms (though since they could not use the programs embedded in the font, these had to be made generic)
 
I thought we figured that out decades ago
 
@Puppy Fuzziness is the default state of software. It's something between art, science, and brand...
 
given explanation: identical to the explanation I already knew
 
11:26 AM
BBC is an... interesting outlet. I've been binging Monty Python's Flying Circus and there's a lot of apt criticism of it
 
"oldest questions in evolutionary biology"
YEAH, right.
 
I think that "Where are my keys?" is probably older
 
The Stirling University campus is in a cave, right?
It must be.
 
I've never heard of a Stirling University in Britain
 
I guess my biggest issue with media and sales is that there's a need to be sensational and inflate things. I tried to work in both, but left pretty quickly because I'm not cut out for that.
 
11:30 AM
@Puppy They never heard of Cavendish bananas, even though they probably eat them every day.
@Puppy What I find interesting is that they claim "The ever-present need to evade disease can explain why sex persists in the natural world in spite of the costs" but that just shifts the question to "why are the costs so high and why isn't sex more efficient instead, e.g. peacock tails are totally redundant for strict reproduction purposes". (though we've also had answers for that for ages)
 
puppy the baby poodle
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes If memory serves, it's good for pretty much any beneficial gene, not just disease fighting.
 
Yeah, that too.
 
one thing that confuses me though is about parts of our genetic code that don't reproduce sexually, like mitochondrial DNA
 
Like, none of this even has an inkling of being new.
 
11:38 AM
you'd think that they could gain the same advantages
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's an interesting perspective. I think perhaps that secondary sexual characteristics serve as indicators of reproductive fitness. If an individual is attractive, it is more likely that the offspring will also be attractive and reproduce.
 
or Y chromosome for men
 
@Aaron3468 Yeah, that's a common explanation. I'm not saying there isn't one, just that these "scientists" are not very good because they don't know how to ask questions.
 
both of which not only don't reproduce sexually but the lineage can terminate completely if only children of the wrong gender survive
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yep. Once you leave the realms of physics, chemistry, math, and other relatively strong sciences, it turns into opinion. I hesitate to call theorists scientists -- the media rarely does -- but they're usually better informed on the subject than an ordinary person.
 
11:41 AM
evolutionary biology isn't really an opinion
@JohanLarsson le woof
 
@Puppy The core concepts aren't, but the conclusions generally are. Psychology suffers from this too. We know with certainty what is being examined, but not with certainty the details
 
@Aaron3468 That whole "may be similar" thing not only isn't really an opinion, it's also out in favour of DNA analysis.
 
@Puppy Touche. I thought the subject was still how evolutionary biologists theorize about why certain traits evolve. And to be fair I'm quite an armchair theorist myself, so I shouldn't criticize
 
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wow. PBMX is nerdy even for you :)
 
11:51 AM
> They are also warning the public not to consume the mystery foodstuff as it could be dangerous.
This sentence.
 
Parody, right
 
@Mgetz do you still write WPF?
 
@sehe It's not parody, unfortunately...
 
> Rice is Nigeria's staple food.
Whole paragraph.
I hate this writing style.
 
12:01 PM
The writing in both articles is very poor. Are they still doing journalism by telegraph?
 
I really don't understand what's there to gain from selling plastic rice.
 
Money
You can pump out plastic rice faster than competitors can grow real rice, sell it in bulk for lower cost, then disappear and rebrand
 
The second I leave to run some errands you talk about sex...
 
@JohanLarsson not for years
 
@Aaron3468 How much rice do you have to sell make this worthwhile?
It's rice, not gold.
> In the last two months, the price of Vietnam 's rice has remained steady at US$245 to US$260 per ton
 
12:03 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't really see much problem in that. Is it... too simple? I think I like that they opt for just stating simple facts, instead of mechanically embellishing because... prose
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well. If you have the plastic pellets surplus. Or you have ulterior motive in that you wish to cause harm or fear.
 
Yeah, but you have to transport and distribute it as well.
As a crook, it seems like a waste of my time. There are better ways to crook.
But yeah, as someone who just wants to cause harm, it doesn't sound too bad.
 
@Griwes suspicious Looks awfully authentic to me. The variety of shapes of the grain, pieces sticking in fingers... And there's no apparent markings of molds used in manufacturing.
 
And China honestly has a surplus of industrial materials (coupled with lots of poverty), so this kind of absurd thing happens often.
 
I bet they also grow real rice. :/
This all looks like a shitty scare for shitty reasons to me.
 
@Aaron3468 You really can't repeat this many times.
 
12:10 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Honestly, sometimes I wonder why crooks go to such lengths for a quick dollar when the effort could be put into making honest, and relatively stable income
 
@MarkGarcia And again, there are easier ways to create this scare without having to bother manufacturing and distributing plastic rice. Like, you can just claim it.
 
Exactly.
And having British people check the authenticity of rice. :p
It's wet and soggy!
 
And looking around for the price of scrap plastic, US$260/ton doesn't sound very lucrative.
 
No, but remember that if you already have plastic scraps, the cost can be as low as $0. I totally agree that it doesn't seem viable in the long term, but that doesn't matter when you want quick money
 
@Aaron3468 My point is that you can sell it as scrap plastic for the same or more.
 
12:18 PM
Haha, yes, you may need to get into the plastic rice business. You have more sense than they do
 
So I doubt there's economic motivation behind this.
Either it's rubbish unsubstantiated news, or it's intended to cause harm.
 
Rubbish news about a rubbish crime, honestly
 
I vote for plain rubbish news.
 
Any news outlets that don't spew rubbish? I'm still looking for one because I want to be informed about the world, but not stupid
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I would put it in the not-implausible category, it's more likely that someone had access to the already sized fake rice in china and just resold it for a quick buck. Because how the heck is Nigeria going to prosecute them.
 
12:23 PM
I guess that's possible, but if it was me, I'd probably just go with scrap plastic anyway :D
The additional lie of claiming it's rice doesn't bring more money.
 
eh, china's had a serious fake food problem as late. But fake rice has always seemed a little odd
 
Xeo
maybe that fake rice actually has a purpose, like in food dish photos (like sushi)!
 
Also sounds safer for me: who's gonna check what the scrap plastic looks like? They'll just throw it into a giant bucket and melt it.
 
As you have found out, it's important to have a simple, self contained example. Your updated example code is still incomplete because it mixes names and doesn't include the required headers etc. It's silly to expect people who COULD help you to waste time coming up with those things. It'll just cause them to ignore your question. — sehe 1 min ago
@R.MartinhoFernandes You know. If it's happened, you don't need to find out whether it makes sense. The question shifts to "why is it happening".
 
@sehe I'm just trying to figure out if it makes sense economically; I'm not discarding all motivations.
 
12:26 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Exactly. It sounds like a poor swindle, but I saw more than a few poor swindles while I worked in a store. From experience, it sounds plausible enough in the category that I don't doubt it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah. Good.
 
And stupidity is also a possibility, though less likely if this happens repeatedly.
 
It might be sheer ignorance/stupidity. @Xeo's fake rice theory has some merit
 
Oo sweet, I am harvesting good reps from SE sites outside SO in the past 24 hours
 
@sehe It's the jarring transitions that make it really awkward.
 
12:29 PM
I think I have uncovered the secret of attention whoring on SE sites, for now at least
 
Dude said X.
Rice is a staple food.
Other dude said Y.
 
in Discussion between sehe and Denis Makovsky, 2 mins ago, by Denis Makovsky
can I use not boost shred_ptr with boost function ?
Ooo. shred_ptr<> I've long contemplated whether I should make a "secure storage" allocator or smart pointer (or both). shred_ptr<> is a nice name for that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes A well-written article isn't really necessary for such a small piece of news that has only a few facts. Unless you want them to pull a classic journalism tactic and have 80% of the article being a discussion with a rice 'expert'
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Mmm. I suppose jarring transitions come with summarizing, and summaries are nice for slow readers. I agree it's not nice prose. But I found it clear and informative
 
@sehe Note I only complained about style.
 
12:31 PM
:)
I contributed by stating I liked it for practical reasons.
 
Ell
@MarkGarcia it's good :P
 
I really enjoy it as well. The episode I'm watching right now satirizes what happens when media embellishes and focuses overmuch on style over the information.
It's actually a bit unsettling how such a clever show is more than a bit racist ^^;
 
@Ell blergh I don't think it's the result he wanted though. Every Asian knows different batches of rice requires different amounts of water. You need to guess on every first cook and adjust on subsequent ones. It must be that he bought it just for that episode.
 
Ell
12:47 PM
Well, you can't really teach that on video
getting the feel of the amount of water required is called cooking I suppose :P
 
I find that specific types of rice require fixed ratios of water mostly
 
 
They're very much doing it wrong.
 
What is best practice for server appeasement?
 
Domination
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12:57 PM
@Aaron3468 You don't leave them. They're jealous creatures.
 
@wilx you don't go in there naked, that could cause a fan to break because of dust. Rather you begin running through the Holiday Hardening checklist
 
@sehe :)
 
@sehe that would explain a lot of IT interactions I've had...
 
@sehe What is the best practice for spouse appeasement?
 
playing dead?
 
1:00 PM
unionization
 
lolol
Hmm, more and more sites detect ad blockers. :(
 
nwp
time for an ad blocker detection blocker
 
Yep, but what did they expect as ads grew more invasive? The first approach to the problem is of course to design hardware that makes ads unblockable
 
@wilx My favorite ones that when I turn my adblock for them, I still can't find their ads! Might be caching, but stil...
 
nwp
@Aaron3468 they kinda already made that, it's called android (and probably IOS too)
and people seem to be fine with it
 
1:05 PM
@nwp And there's an ad-block browser app now, and roots allow you to patch apps to remove ads
Actually, depending on the program you use, you can patch the apks without root as well
 
Or FF for mobile.
 
@nwp If by that you mean, iOS recently added dedicated support for adblockes
 
@Mgetz Are you a server?
so basically you're saying I have to alias restart="nohup sh -c /etc/init.d/networking stop; sleep 2; /etc/init.d/networking start" because somebody using Debian, thinks his or her job will be on the line if we actually evolve Linux beyond a hobbiest OS? — user82971 May 29 '11 at 12:51
@wilx You already know that one
 
@sehe If I knew I would not be divorced... :(
 
erm. to spell that out or not to spell that... tough choice
 
1:08 PM
@sehe no I just think that IT treats quite a lot of things and people the same
 
Oh.
@wilx I don't mind if they detect. But I hate when they nag about it or even block.
 
@wilx Even Brad Pitt wasn't able to stay in a relationship, so it's nothing about you as a partner.
 
@sehe Your subtlety, or any subtlety, is lost on me. I am a straight arrow.
 
I wasn't subtle, at all. Perhaps that was too subtle for you.
 
@Aaron3468 Haha. Thanks.
 
1:11 PM
@sehe if they stopped having malvertizing and shitty adds with video and flash I'd stop blocking
 
Erm. Read it again
 
I was concurring with you and expanding
 
> Q. What is the best practice for spouse appeasement?
A. You already know that one (<--- spelling it out: DIVORCE)
See. The problem was not that I was too subtle. Definitely not.
 
not disagreeing
 
@Mgetz Ah good :)
 
1:12 PM
@Mgetz Honestly, the relationship between consumers and advertisements is an arms race when the company inevitably assumes consumers would care if they only saw the ad through a blocker or newspaper they don't read
 
I wasn't talking about blockers blocking, so I was confused
 
@sehe But that does not make any sense, unless I am mistaken about the meaning of the word appeasement. :(
 
@Aaron3468 I honestly don't mind paid content, if anything I know that it's biased and that it's trying to sell me something. Or heck even 'brought to you by'
 
@wilx In other words, your spouse wanted the divorce more than you :( You appeased your spouse.
 
@wilx Some optimization problems have a negative optimum
7
 
1:14 PM
@sehe :D
 
I'm jesting, of course. Sorry. A little bit.
 
@Mgetz Yes, those are my favourites because it shows support for what I enjoy, rather than distracting me from it
 
@sehe Well, I started it. :D All is good. I still love you. A little bit.
 
1:32 PM
the problem with advertising is that the company is trying to initiate a conversation with the consumer, instead of the other way around
 
@Puppy Conversation is two way communication. In case of many adverts, it is just one way, from the ad to the potential consumer. They want you to remember them so that you will buy their product instead of someone else's when you actually want to buy one.
 
yeah, but I won't remember them, at best
I've certainly bought competitor's products from time to time because ads annoyed me
 
@Puppy Not knowingly. But one of the effects they bet on is that the next time you see their logo or such it will be familiar and thus easier to pick.
 
yeah, which is why I block their shit
 
@Puppy: You are special, we all know it. :D
 
1:37 PM
people who manipulate their customers for sales can't be trusted to sell you a decent product
 
@MarkGarcia I don't, but that's because I'm working with OCaml and the default is Optional returns. tbh, I think Optional returns are nice, but exceptions whent urned on could probably help you debug some classes of errors.
 
Multiprocess Firefox is weird. Scrolling is now much smoother than before, but switching tabs is spasmic.
 
@MarkGarcia Since when does it work? My FF is still a single process.
 
@wilx -isystem exists.
 
1:48 PM
@ThePhD Thanks! Right now I've decided to build both and see if RTTI significantly bloats the binaries.
 
note: previous definition is here
        struct value;
               ^
 
@Aaron3468 The UK doesn't need experts, remember?
 
This is not a definition, you dumbass -.-
Also WTB typedef forward declarations.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes We've gone full-on post-truth
 
@MarkGarcia All are reported compatible. But the setting is not in the FF I have.
 
1:55 PM
@Puppy I heard that May says you'll leave even without a deal.
Genius.
 
@LucDanton inb4 gyro secession
 
pretty much sums up the UK's idiocy in this matter
 
@wilx Check about:support > "Multiprocess Windows"
 
I was wrong.
Some are incompatible.
 
You can simply disable them.
 
1:56 PM
the only reason Brexit even happened at all is because David Cameron is a fuckin' moron
and Johnson is a coward
well my train leaves at 14:48 so I should be going
 
@Puppy if only it could be 14:88
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's... wow.
 

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