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user1804599
2:01 PM
If I want metaprogramming real bad then I'd use Elixir.
 
@elyse You can use JavaScript too. It's amazing.
 
You can but why would you want to
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes stop teasing me :(
 
Gross
 
2:04 PM
Amazing
 
NSFW but it's on a fucking building.
 
It's here in Berlin, not far from my office.
 
user1804599
It's hipster.
 
What is it...
 
It's okay because you actually work inside the building with the giant cock
 
2:06 PM
You can read about it here spiegel.de/international/spiegel/…
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes cockzilla
 
> Is it left-wing to attach to the outside of the Taz building a sculpture of Bild editor-in-chief Kai Diekmann showing him naked, wearing red glasses and cheap brown loafers and equipped with a penis that extends all the way up the front of the Taz building?
Taz and Bild are newspapers.
 
it is cool nonetheless
a bit cocky, tbh
@R.MartinhoFernandes when your boss enters the building you can yell "there's a dick outside!" and nobody could contradict/be offended by that
 
I don't work for Taz, nor Bild.
I work some streets away.
 
2:10 PM
it is enough if you see it
where is it btw?
 
user1804599
> Palestinian privilege
 
I mean: which district
surely not Charlottenburg
 
It says in the article.
Well, not district but street.
It's Mitte.
Or Kreuzberg. But prolly Mitte.
 
user1804599
Diekmann probably likes it.
 
The Bild building is the ginormous thing to the right.
I think.
 
2:14 PM
Berlin was amazing.
 
user1804599
dat google maps 3D buildings
 
user1804599
so perspective
 
very close to the checkpoint Charlie?
 
Pretty sure you can't see the schlong from there.
@MarcoA. Yes.
 
user1804599
2:16 PM
Don't do a Charlie Hebdo there, please.
 
@MarcoA. That's just around the corner. West down the street then one block north.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I used to work near the zoo, but I know the place a bit
 
user1804599
LOL
 
Why is gitlab running java.
 
user1804599
2:19 PM
JRuby!
 
So now what
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes find the arguments it passed to java.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
But fear not, that's just 1/8th of your RAM that's in use!
 
Why do I either have to use qmake, CMake or Qbs
 
@Columbo What else do you want?
 
2:23 PM
Because using all three at the same time makes absolutely no sense.
 
@Columbo that is qt creator
cool, isn't it?
and java is shit
 
user1804599
it creates qts
 
I installed 4 jre, jdk, browser installations and still can't make a shitty applet work
f***
 
Don't use applets
 
Are java applets still a thing?
 
2:26 PM
no
 
user1804599
Don't make shitty applets work.
 
user1804599
Only make good ones work.
 
God doesn't want us to use java
 
@Columbo that is a professional use of Qt Creator
 
user1804599
2:27 PM
Use Vim.
 
user1804599
And Haskell.
 
@MarcoA. Also the plugin bitness has to match browser bitness
 
@elyse I want to use Vim. But it just looks like 1985
 
Don't enable Java plugins
 
@CatPlusPlus I do know that, and I installed 32 and 64 -> doesn't work
 
2:27 PM
Vim is bad
 
@Columbo You can make it look like 2015
 
user1804599
Java applets are literally Flash.
 
I wonder if there's a 46-bit plugin too
 
@Columbo ...err, just use plugins.
 
No, Flash kinda works
 
2:28 PM
And configure your terminal properly.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus No it doesn't
 
Don't use terminal vim lol
 
Okay, let's try Vim \o/
 
@CatPlusPlus Terminal vim the only true vim.
 
^
 
2:29 PM
Also good luck with gvim over ssh and not absurdly bad performance.
 
user1804599
@Xeo Neither do you. Stop chatting and go back writing ActionScript.
 
QtCreator is absolute overkill
 
@Columbo then make your own editor, you can start from here
There's also the Qt Creator you love so much :>
 
@CatPlusPlus But?
 
Xeo
@elyse I haven't written a single line of AS3 for months.
 
2:29 PM
@Griwes That's pretty much the only time I use terminal vim.
 
@Columbo gvim
 
@Xeo Welcome to AS3 Anonymous.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What feature do you use from gvim?
 
I don't see a point with using gvim. Really.
 
user1804599
@Xeo :(
 
2:30 PM
Also... can gvim into tmux?
Because if it can't, then... well.
 
The only reason to use terminal vim is when you absolutely have to
 
user1804599
@khajvah The editing feature.
 
@elyse I meant GUI features.
 
If most of your editing is over SSH then your workflow is shit
 
2:32 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes can gvim into tmux?
 
user1804599
Cat, are you fat?
 
Xeo
The last time I wrote AS3 was at the end of January.
 
@CatPlusPlus Most of my editing is locally, but I like being able to just ssh into an active session from a remote place.
 
@Griwes Recommendations
 
Xeo
I thought it was a bit longer ago
 
2:33 PM
applets are for badlets
3
 
lol tmux not over SSH
 
@Columbo I'd show you my .vimrc, but it's a terrible mess currently so I won't. :D
 
@Griwes What does that even mean?
 
@CatPlusPlus lol not using tmux locally for non trivial things
 
Is working with hjkl and all the other stuff really more efficient
I can hardly believe it
 
user1804599
2:33 PM
@Xeo What do you do now?
 
I don't need tmux, I have actual window management you know
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes tmux. that nice thing that let's me quickly select what I want to see, and which I can attach from anywhere.
 
Xeo
@elyse C++
 
@Xeo rip
 
2:34 PM
@Griwes I use tmux inside my X sessions.
 
@Xeo and some delphi I hope
 
You know, the thing that goes perfectly with terminal-based editors and wanting to have an actual shell available?
 
Xeo
I was hired for C++ vOv
@MarcoA. no?
 
@Columbo Not really
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
2:34 PM
@CatPlusPlus So should I stick with an editor that is mouse-based
 
user1804599
@Xeo RIP
 
Gvim doesn't have anything that Vim doesn't, so what's the point?
 
@Columbo Vim supports mouse. vOv
 
@Columbo No
 
@Columbo yes
 
2:35 PM
No editor is better with mouse
 
@Griwes I don't need to attach to my vim sessions vOv
I can open and close them at will from anywhere.
 
user1804599
I updated all portage packages and now my icons in gvim changed.
 
@Griwes Yes, it's very funny to have actual font options. WITH LINE HEIGHT
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, because restarting vim and plugin caches instead of just keeping it running makes so much sense.
 
w o a h
 
user1804599
2:36 PM
 
It's like
 
user1804599
AMAZING
 
the future
 
@Griwes I don't know what you're takling about.
 
@CatPlusPlus Use a better terminal. vOv
 
2:36 PM
The primary advantage of tmux for me is for when I'm not there.
 
I really need to save 0.5s on starting vim
 
user1804599
I should unplonk Griwes just for being able to follow the amusing discussions he participates in.
 
~~~~~purrrrformance~~~~~
 
Okay, so there I was, saying I don't need gvim and asking what the hell do you actually need it for...
 
@Griwes Terminals are garbage
 
2:37 PM
...then you started attacking my workflow for no reason.
 
I only use terminals for shell and I don't even like doing that
 
Neat.
 
user1804599
I use terminals a lot.
 
user1804599
Z shell is my favourite program.
 
@CatPlusPlus Stop using garbage clients then vOv
 
2:37 PM
@Griwes :ironicat:
 
@Griwes What do you use?
 
I should start a quotebook of you
 
@elyse You can do what I do - look into the transcript from time to time.
 
stop attacking his workflow people
 
Oh wait rightfold can't hear me.
 
user1804599
2:38 PM
@Griwes too much effort.
 
Stop giving people stupid advice
I really don't care about his workflow
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Konsole. Or mobaxterm when I have to do stuff from windows.
 
user1804599
I always wondered.
 
@Griwes Also, to keep with your style, use a better... I don't even know what makes this noticeable.
 
@Griwes try terminology
 
2:40 PM
upgrade to a super VGA screen for graphical interface
 
@khajvah what a terrible, ungoogleable name.
 
@khajvah What does it bring over other terminals?
 
@Griwes Just read the article
 
2:41 PM
It's all written there
 
> Terminology understands full file paths
I don't blame him if he doesn't want to read.
 
user1804599
I like Sakura.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You didn't read the whole sentence.
 
> Also need translucency, so you can see what is below your terminal? Fret not! Terminology has this bell and whistle also nicely stashed in its chest of visual features.
lol
Why can't it be a fucking list of things
Superfluous shit
 
@CatPlusPlus Because, it's elementary os's terminal.
 
2:43 PM
Could take 1/10th of the space
 
@elyse googling for symptoms of a whatever disease usually gives you cancer in 99% of cases
 
They are hipsters
 
> Never again be stuck not being able to see cats do stupid things in animated gifs when you don't have your web browser available.
I always have my web browser available.
 
I'm kind of surprised it didn't turn out that way this time
 
> Never mind then, We also have Tabs.
 
2:44 PM
> “tybg” can set a background to any file you like, from a simple JPEG or PNG file through to SVG, even MP4 videos, animated gifs, even PPT files can become your terminal background if you like.
Why the hell would I want that.
 
Hello Everyone,
I've got a quick question:
Is there a specific name for a tree structure with one data member and 3 children, max ?
Quite different from 2-3 tree, where you have 1 data member and two children, max or 2 data members and 3 children, max. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%E2%80%933_tree.
 
user1804599
@MarcoA. XD
 
Dunno which is worse. Random capitalisation or the mention of par for the course features as something special.
 
> If Tabs are not enough, Terminology also offers Splits. This allows you to split the terminal into panes with a left/right half, or top/bottom half. Splits can nest, so you can split a Split again as many times as you like. They are resizable, and each Split can hold as many Tabs as you like. So slice and dice your terminal any way you like.
This is technology unseen before!
 
2:45 PM
@Griwes Something else everything has!
And caps.
 
user image
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I think I'm going to like this site
 
That time of the month #party
 
Xeo
lol
 
2:47 PM
Brilliant
 
user1804599
 
Here we go again with inspirational shit.
 
> Loneliness can be as pretty as a mother on acid
How do I pick a favorite help
 
> A strategy game where you stomp on history until you feel regret.
 
user1804599
> Water is just wasted money that isn't real.
 
2:49 PM
@Griwes Konsole is what I use too. Well, Yakuake, but essentially the same. MobaXterm looks nice, but I don't see a mention of agents. Does it bring one? Or better, does it support PuTTY's? (so I don't have to run two agents)
 
Plus, dot-prefix those.
 
user1804599
> All you need to travel back in time is a body and a brain.
 
user1804599
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user1804599
I just wrote this accidentally.
 
2:51 PM
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Agents like ssh agents? I think it supports importing saved sessions and whatnot from putty; I'd check, but I don't exactly have access to a Windows machine right now.
 
jesus
 
@MaiLongdong :D
 
who made this thing
 
Agents are not sessions
 
2:52 PM
@Griwes Wait, what do you use? :S
 
Passwords
 
There goes why whole day of work tomorrow
 
Agents are authentication providers. You load your keys into them, and then apps use them for auth.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Err?
 
2:53 PM
I'm mostly sshing into irrelevant machines from Windows, so... err... saved passwords. ;d
 
UGH
Disabling password logins is one of the first things I do on an SSH daemon.
Ah, found it in the docs.
> Use Pageant SSH agent for SSH authentication
Works.
 
stahp
 
> Within every salvation lies intestines
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, me too - on machines that face the outside world and actually have access to something relevant.
 
2:55 PM
I want to say that at church next time
 
@MaiLongdong :D
 
@Griwes I do that on all of them... Key-based auth is actually more convenient.
Load keys, go anywhere.
Enable agent forwarding, profit.
 
@hello That would make searching the tree less efficient.
 
Also one thing - mobaxterm's ssh.exe is segfaulting on me when trying to use a locally sitting ed25519 key.
 
That reminds me my setup is still a bit flaky. Sometimes I need to open a second session just so the agent socket gets updated for some reason.
 
2:58 PM
I'm yet to find out why :D
 
@hello A trinary tree?
 
Pageant doesn't support Ed25519 keys.
@Griwes But the idea is that the keys don't go anywhere near ssh.exe.
 
Yes, I know. Just noting that silly fact.
 
Pageant kinda sucks, but it's what most SSH-enabled apps on Windows support.
The ones that support agents, that is :< A bunch don't even.
 
> Version 7.5 (2015-02-15)
> Improvement: Upgraded OpenSSH to version 6.7 with new ed25519 (curve25519) SSH keys support
mhm
do I really have an installation that old or what
 
3:01 PM
@Mr.kbok WOW.. Looked up Trinary Tree, and found Tenary Tree. Was that intentional?
Thanks
 
Ugh, this UI is too busy.
Time to get rid of shit.
 
@DonLarynx Less efficient than 2-3 or 2-3-4 ?
 
@hello Oh yeah, that would be ternary. :)
 
@hello Don't listen to Don
 
3:02 PM
@unordered_meow Why?
 
millenium you're a cat now?
Everyone's a cat?
 
@hello He's also a nooblet
 
Xeo
I think I've been kinda unproductive today. Got a clear task to do, and I've written a phenomenal 50 lines of code so far.
 
@Mr.kbok Everybody's a cat on the internet
 
Xeo
Today's not my day.
 
user1804599
3:04 PM
Indeed. It's mine.
 
@unordered_meow Oh right; I just noticed, I'm a cat too
 
Xeo
I should go home, my head's starting to hurt.
 
Just curious:

Is there an everyday use of implementing data structures in everyday programming? jobs especially?
 
@Xeo Don't drink at work :P
 
Xeo
I don't get headaches from drinking alcohol.
My head's been hurting in the afternoon for pretty much the last week, though./
Not sure what's going on
 
3:07 PM
Anevrism
Go see a doctor
 
@hello Not really. Just useful knowledge.
 
user1804599
@gtd - Yep. U and V are ambigvovs. — colinm Aug 5 '13 at 22:54
 
user1804599
lol
 
@Griwes K. MobaXterm seems cool. If it had "popup on keypress" Yakuake style I could actually have almost the same UI experience as on Linux :|
 
3:11 PM
+1 for avoiding ambiguity in the codes — dertoni Jun 14 '10 at 13:08
> the codes
> the codes
 
I like to press a keycombo and have one screen fill up with the terminal.
 
@Xeo I don't want to scare you or anything, but please do go see a doctor!
Not trolling for once.
 
@hello The only case I've heard for people re-implementing over using the STL containers is in game programming
 
Reimplementing the STL for compliance with gamedev standards (=broken)
 
user1804599
bananas are not perfect but they don't pretend to be
 
3:15 PM
SSH /ʃuːʃ/ verb to connect to a box via SSH.
I like this pronunciation.
> Hello Mr. Martinho Fernández,

I, <person> from <company>, just had a look at your profile and was wondering if you are interested in one of our current job openings.
Ugh. You didn't look properly.
Or failed to copy & paste, somehow.
FFS.
> The requirements for this position are experience as Javascript developer, with knowledge of Digital STB, DVB, TV APIs, Embedded systems and experience with Ajax, JSON, XML, SOAP, and/or REST.
Nevermind
Wait. Haha.
 
You have an opportunity to reply with 'I, Robot'
 
> I, Marilen from [...]
[...]
Best wishes,

Irene
FFS
At least she got her own name wrong too.
 
I have much experience with soap
 
user1804599
Experience with JSON.
 
user1804599
@R.MartinhoFernandes Send an email and ask them whether their name is Marilen or Irene.
 
3:28 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
user1804599
And say that you are very confused.
 
@CatPlusPlus I use it many times a day
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Smooth.
More lady problems, eh?
 
Your mom also resonates well
 
@EtiennedeMartel No, stupid recruiters.
 
3:41 PM
@EtiennedeMartel meh, we're bored with that tow now
 
> Hello Marilen. Or is it Irene?

In the future, I would appreciate if you didn't contact me about job openings unless all of the following apply.

1. You get my name right. It's not difficult, since as far as I am aware I write it correctly on all my profiles where I make my name public. It's also written properly in the very same email address you used to contact me. For future reference, it's "Martinho Fernandes".
2. You actually mention which profile you had a look at. I have several profiles spread online and people could have found me from any one of them. It would be very helpful for
Sent this.
 
Ah, the "shotgun" approach to recruitment.
 
@Jeremy I don't have a girlfriend, so.
Oooh, lotsa airlines are banning the transport of animal trophies.
 
I'll copy paste your email and send it to spammy recruiters with the name changed for maximum irony
 
3:54 PM
:D
 
Hello <Insert name here>, ...
 
(All the errors he/she committed in the mail are so common, the response is probably applicable verbatim to 80% of all recruiter spam)
 
Subject hometown here
 
Hi firstname LASTNAME, there are singles in City who wants to chat!
 
Seriously, it's one thing to make a typo. "Marthino" is kinda ok. People get a bit dyslexic and make typos and such. "Fernández" is actually usually harder to type than "Fernandes" because of the accent. It's like someone saw my name and thought "oh, of course he misspelled his own fucking name, I'll fix it".
 
3:56 PM
Frankly it's always a bit insulting. I mean, if someone is interested in potentially hiring me, why not show at least a little bit of effort?
 
You're made of meat
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes beautiful
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's not them who hire you. They just carry you to the place where you get hired.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oooooh yeah... now I see that extra 'h'
 
@Mr.kbok But still. If I randomly blast generic templates to companies, nobody's gonna call me back. Why do recruters think they can pull it off?
 
3:58 PM
@EtiennedeMartel because they can :(
 
I think they can't.
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's a sellers market.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Did you ever call back?
They probably get a few answers for every thousand mails sent, so they keep doing it
 
Roboto Mono would be perfect if it weren't for the weird curly braces.
 

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