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4:04 PM
@AlexM. Err. That doesn't sound good.
 
the way this bathroom was built is a mess
without a full rebuild the problem won't go away
I was trying to make the point that I'm lazy enough to not wipe the floor even if it causes problems for others
 
Means there's probably water in between the floor and the ceiling. I wouldn't be surprised if mold got in there.
 
so I'm ok with paying whatever it costs to have something that evaporates and vents the excess water away
when I move out
@EtiennedeMartel yea she's probably getting last week's water
 
Some water on the floor shouldn't be a problem, you're fixing the wrong problem
 
4:08 PM
I have a hunch that a properly built bathroom floor wouldn't cause that issue yes
you know all of these problems would go away if I could move into a house
and not have annoying stupid neighbors under and above me
but I can't afford a house in a nice place with big enough stuff yet
I hate this
I lived in a house for 19 years and after 3 years of apartment blocks the only thing I can call living in an apartment is compromise
you get placed somewhere nice close to your workplace and lots of people fit in a small place but then everyone's freedom gets limited by everyone else in the building at some point
and it's cheap shrug
 
@AlexM. Yeah then rotting floor would only be your problem :v
 
assuming it's badly built :P
I'd take a floor that I fix at my own pace over a crazy old lady complaining to me anyday
ugh her pooch is making noise outside
speaking of the devil
 
user1804599
4:27 PM
 
user1804599
dunno
 
user1804599
might leave this for another day
 
Ell
@rightfold trigger warning m8
 
@rightfold link?
 
user1804599
I should post it when I have 100k rep.
 
4:29 PM
oh lol
 
@rightfold wow, no sad face at the end
wouldn't even read
 
user1804599
also community wiki and self-answer :D
 
> Key personnel will have cots in their offices to stay close to the mission as it reaches Pluto, he says.
lmao, overtime at NASA is not a joke
 
user1804599
oh wait qs can't be community wiki anymore
 
4:30 PM
then again, when you're there you probably have no problem marrying your work
 
@AlexM. I bet it'd be exciting. Like a sleep over when you were a kid
 
user1804599
and also I should create the tag with it
 
inf
@rightfold do it
 
id bring MOON PIES
 
@AlexM. It's space
Nobody else does space
 
4:31 PM
@Prismatic Why does that remind me of Maplestory
 
MS doesn't work very well with modern OSes I'm still mad
 
@buttifulbuttefly Idunno, I never played maple story
 
And by modern I mean XP+
 
I want a magic library that will just draw some super ghetto debug text in OpenGL for me. Like, just a single function call with an OpenGL context ghetto. Anyone know of such a thing?
 
user1804599
this is excellent: i.stack.imgur.com/VFXOm.png
2
 
4:34 PM
maybe I should ask HN
@rightfold please add a sad emoji
 
@rightfold Glorious
 
user1804599
better than 99% of questions
 
my prgoram fails to compiel :(
 
@rightfold the typos are too regular
 
How about instead of 'i demand your help' you change it to 'i needing your help'
 
4:36 PM
Nobody ever thought about doing that
It's completely original idea
 
@rightfold too many typos not credible
 
user1804599
@buttifulbuttefly but incredible i.stack.imgur.com/M5PvN.png
 
0/10
Yawn
I need more DPS
 
user1804599
DP
abbreviation
• data processing.
• displaced person.
 
How the hell do you use citations in CSL YAML with Pandoc?
I am giving it the the file either on command line or in the YAML meta data but it still does not want to find the reference.
 
user1804599
4:44 PM
 
Is there a way to draw ultra simple text purely with a fragment shader? It would be cool if you could just send a uniform array with a text string and have opengl render it
 
@Prismatic I think there is
let me fetch my OpenGL Insights book
 
Man I really hate github so much. Would it fucking kill you to make your search feature not complete shit?
"opengl text" <--- search query. 99% of results? "opengl texture". Good thing there's a way to explicitly remove search strings-oh wait.
I feel like once websites like github get a certain inertia going the companies don't give a fuck anymore and don't really do shit. Same issue on twitch; their search is complete garbage. They'll never fix it though
 
"site:github.com"
 
Ell
@Prismatic seems like a bad thing to do in a fragment shader
 
5:01 PM
@Ell Why
 
Ell
seems like a gpu is not build for that
 
FML. I was missing the --- at the beginning of the file and the ... at the end of the file. facepalm
 
@wilx What file/language/whatever requires you to have that?
 
@nabijaczleweli CSL YAML citations file.
 
^This guy seems to have something working (numbers only though)
 
5:06 PM
@Prismatic I wont summarize a 4 page article from the book I have, but it seems to me like if you have an atlas texture with all the characters on it, you can fill a vertex buffer with the right attributes, you could possibly create the quads in a geometry shader, and then use the attributes in the pixel shader to fetch the region of the atlas texture where you glyph is in the fragment shader
 
@Borgleader k... thanks for checking
I was looking for something more like this: shadertoy.com/view/4sf3RN
oh shiiiiiiiiiit
Its quite slow though lol... still very impressive
 
Ell
cool
I guess for debug it's cool?
but not really that useful
imho
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I broke a Rubik cube today
 
Well yeah... that's exactly what I want though. I'm just looking for dead simple debug text that has nothing to do with the rest of my rendering engine
 
it was sad
 
5:20 PM
:(
 
@AndyProwl What does it look like from the inside? is it magic
 
@Prismatic hard to tell
black, plastic, mechanisms, these are the words that come to mind
what is this mumble thing?
 
voice chat
 
cool, for some game or just like that?
 
you basically go there if you want to talk to nooble
from what I've seen he's the only one who uses it a lot
 
5:23 PM
lol
do I need to download something
 
yep their client
 
their = programmed by loungers?
 
I might join too if my hair wash syncs with my need to talk to people :D
@AndyProwl mumble.com
 
oh
thank you
gotta skype with parents now then go buy food but I might join at some point
if not today, tomorrow
if not tomorrow, the day after
 
what if not the day after?
 
5:25 PM
then I have to hope more days will follow
 
I see.
 
can't really look that far in the future
(Robot would be proud of me)
 
@AndyProwl How so? It popped some cubies? Or you really broke the mechanism?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes one of the edge cubies popped
I wasn't able to stick it back
 
Turn the face 45 degrees.
Then it's easy.
 
5:28 PM
I've tried it but I couldn't stick it back in
maybe I just have to apply more force
(I was about to write "push harder" then I realized this is the Lounge)
 
@AlexM. I'm on here more than @Noob!
 
@EtiennedeMartel Donald Trump seems like quite the bigot
 
He'll say whatever he can to get the idiot demographic.
 
@nabijaczleweli Until I get back.
 
5:39 PM
@Nooble And get certws to work...
 
@AlexM. And sehe and nabqweruqvuelalab.
@nabijaczleweli Shouldn't be a problem when I get on my main machine.
 
@Nooble Yeah, "when"
 
:P
 
well
I ought to get dressed
do stuff
 
I like how copying something in Kate doesn't actually put it on the clipboard and if you close Kate after copying text it just goes off and disappears
 
5:42 PM
Doesn't that apply everywhere, unless you start a clipboard manager?
 
user1804599
@Prismatic use Parcellite.
 
@Nooble must be lovely listening to minibartek
 
user1804599
$ parcellite -nd
 
@BoniTea The operating system should retain ownership of everything on the operating system clipboard.
 
Ell
It should be the window managers responsibility really
or "desktop environment" rather
 
5:51 PM
X11 has two types of clipboard selection
 
Ell
X11 is a bit fucked
middle click pastes what is last selected or sthng
and it's hard coded in
 
Did I meet a grammar nazi or was this a really bad mistake? stackoverflow.com/posts/15260685/revisions
 
@AlexM. You should come and listen to him too.
 
@AndyProwl Nazi
 
@Nooble maybe some other day
 
5:52 PM
@Nooble plz no
 
who's minibartek?
 
@AndyProwl me
 
how did you earn that title?
 
@AndyProwl nabijaczleweli
 
Jun 20 at 22:42, by Alex M.
shut up minibartek
 
5:54 PM
he's a bartek for obvious reasons, and he's mini because he's 12 or sth like that
 
12? wow
 
@AlexM. 14.5
Don't be silly
 
are you guys talking centimeters or something
 
I wish I were 22 cm
 
deez punz
 
5:55 PM
you're 22?
 
not cm but yes
 
fucking youngsters everywhere
 
thanks gramps
 
if I had as many centimeters as my age I'd be famous already
 
I think I'm pretty old, I know what a VHS tape is
 
5:55 PM
@AlexM. So do I, and I'm 14.5
 
I watched bambi, the lion king and robin hood on a VHS tape player
 
nerd youngsters
reading about history
 
Not knowing what a VHS tape is is a disgrace
 
I need to go buy food
 
this was such a great and fun movie
it was my favorite
 
5:57 PM
sword in the stone was the best ever
 
Ell
it teaches welfare
 
or whatever it's called
(I'm pro at aging)
ok, later
 
hello
 
@khajvah mourning
 
today I became a dota fan
 
5:59 PM
@khajvah moaning
 
which is not very good
 
love that country ^
 
what country?
 
btw, what was it recently - an Independence Day? like the day of separatism?
 
@Abyx MURICA DAY, MOTHERFUCKERS
 
6:06 PM
m<3urica
 
M'urica.
 
user1804599
We're all living in America.
 
coca cola mickey mouse
I am gonna write a web app in rust
<3
 
Will it be tRusty?
 
I don't think so
It is gonna be useless shit
like everything I write
 
user1804599
 
wtf
I often remind myself ^
 
user1804599
My job is melting steel beams.
 
Ell
6:42 PM
I wonder if it is possible to construct two member objects from a function returning a pair
struct foo {
    int qux;
    float bar;
    foo() : (qux, bar)(create()) {
    }
};
obviously not real syntax, but I wonder if this is possible
 
I can think of a macro but you probably don't want that
 
OMG, I just saw this guy get angry at his kid after the kid set off the car alarm because he was in the car and dad had the brains of a tadpole and decides that locking the car is a good idea while someone's in it.
 
something that generates qux(create().first), bar(create().second)
 
He gets mad at the kid for setting off the alarm and then locks it again with the kid in it.
 
@AlexM. Two calls = bad
 
6:45 PM
what's a decent GUI for gdb on Windows?
 
user1804599
struct foo {
    int qux;
    float bar;
    foo() {
        std::tie(qux, bar) = create();
    }
};
 
nice
 
@Abyx how is C#?
 
@JohanLarsson huh?
 
@JohanLarsson At version 6, I believe?
 
6:46 PM
@Abyx you started a project a while ago no?
 
@JohanLarsson no? no idea what are you talking about
 
Ell
@rightfold is it possible to do if qux and bar are not default ctable or copy ctable?
 
do let me know if you find a way that doesn't look hacky and astonishing tho
 
user1804599
Yeah perhaps.
 
6:47 PM
@JohanLarsson anyways I'm asking about gdb, the debugger
 
@rightfold How does a C++ gentleman move a tie?
Oh wait, create() is already an rvalue.
 
user1804599
struct foo {
private:
    std::pair<int, float> fuckyou;
public:
    int qux;
    float bar;
    foo() : fuckyou(create()), qux(fuckyou.first), bar(fuckyou.second) {
    }
};
 
Ell
@rightfold neat
 
Are private members initialized before public members?
 
Ell
I thought initialization occurs in order of declaration
 
user1804599
6:48 PM
no, C++ is terrible
 
user1804599
use Go instead and you don't have to care about any of this shit
 
@Ell I think the compiler is allowed to reorder at will sections with different wahtever: preludes.
 
user1804599
No.
 
inf
@rightfold is so right again
 
user1804599
You're all so bad.
 
user1804599
6:49 PM
Order of initialisation is the order of declaration.
 
Ell
30
A: C++: Initialization Order for Member Classes

anonThe order is the order they appear in the class definition - this is from section 12.6.2 of the C++ Standard: 5 Initialization shall proceed in the following order: — First, and only for the constructor of the most derived class as described below, virtual base classes shall be i...

@rightfold hey I got it right!
 
user1804599
You're confusing it with layout in memory.
 
@rightfold ah, right
 
@Ell struct foo { int a,b; bool _ = (create(a, b), false); };
 
Ell
@Abyx cool
I like this because you don't have to store the pair
 
user1804599
6:51 PM
Look how beautiful:
 
user1804599
type foo struct { qux int; bar float32 }
func newFoo() foo {
    qux, bar := create()
    return foo{qux: qux, bar: bar}
}
 
What about default parameter instead of fake member?
struct foo {
    int qux;
    float bar;
    foo(std::pair<int, float> fuckyou = create()) : qux(fuckyou.first), bar(fuckyou.second) {
    }
};
 
awesome
 
@Ell yeah, you can write bool _ =(tie(a, b) = create(), false);
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow make it private and call it from a public ctor.
 
6:52 PM
now put it in private section
 
Ell
@fredoverflow this is great too
now I like freds the best :P (assuming it works)
 
@Ell If only there was a way to test that...
 
user1804599
Constructors are a really bad thing.
 
You are a bad thing
 
user1804599
They're another one of those instances of "let's try to create an unnecessary uniform interface for things and thereby complicating everything."
 
6:55 PM
don't use them
 
Except not really
You'll be replicating the complexity anyway
 
@rightfold wat? that's about as pretty as this...
 
or manually propagate errors
 
struct foo {
    int qux;
    float bar;
    foo(int qux, float bar) : qux(qux), bar(bar) {}
};

foo newFoo(std::pair<int, float> quxbar) {
	return foo(quxbar.first, quxbar.second);
}
 
@rightfold While we're at it, let's just abandon this whole OO nonsense altogether, shall we?
 
user1804599
6:56 PM
@fredoverflow Yes.
 
@melak47 new sounds dynamic. How about make_foo instead?
 
are you guys from 4chan?
what's with OOP hate
 
@khajvah Have you not heard the great words of the master Rich Hickey? OOP just doesn't work in practice.
 
@khajvah It's a cute idea, but it's overused
 
user1804599
OOP is all about coupling.
 
user1804599
6:57 PM
horrible horrible coupling
 
user1804599
it's literally coupling by definition
 
@rightfold rude
 
Ell
 
@fredoverflow nope but I will right now
 
Ell
6:59 PM
(also, does bar() = delete also delete the copy ctor, etc? It should shouldn't it?)
 
Ell
Oh.
 
user1804599
With OOP you have to make many decisions you don't have to make without it, with no additional benefit.
 
How can I dynamically create a context menu? Background I'm using a tray icon and would like to display a context menu on left click. So far I observe left clicks with WM_LBUTTONDBLCLK. Didn't find any answer for that in stackoverflow
 
@fredoverflow I hope it is about OOP and not Java
 

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