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11:00 PM
@Prismatic Sure. Phones are cheap, so they must be really simple to program.
 
@Prismatic instead I'm starting at my various screens wondering why one list has white text on an off-white background, and everything else in my app is black-on-white or white-on-black.
 
user1804599
Abolishment of all government-issued/required licenses.
 
Reminds me, must check TPB for latest shows..
 
rfold's plans are less crazy, than most Polish political parties' ones
 
user1804599
Abortion is an interesting point.
 
11:02 PM
@nabijaczleweli Oh... that bad?
 
@MartinJames Somewhat
 
user1804599
If the life of the baby the property of the mother or of the baby until the baby has been born?
 
planet rightfold in 100 years:
 
@rightfold Of the mother, it's inside her and cannot live outside
 
lol rightfoldtopia is just another of those places that works well if there's no people in it.
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Ell
11:03 PM
Or if its full of good people
 
@nabijaczleweli The father has no say?
 
user1804599
rightfoldtopia would be a great place.
 
@rightfold just occured to me your laws line up pretty close to the USA Tea Party views.
 
user1804599
I have no idea what the USA Tea Party is.
 
@rightfold Summat to do with Boston..
 
user1804599
11:04 PM
I want to privatise as much as possible and keep the government as small as possible.
 
@rightfold Do you know who donald trump is? lol
 
It's kinda similar to:
> Trading of organs must be allowed since they're just property of the people they're part of
 
user1804599
No idea.
 
user1804599
Heard of the name before though.
 
@rightfold brief summary is that governments' one and only job is to have police make sure people respect each other's rights. Pretty much everything else is to be up to businesses/volunteers.
 
user1804599
11:05 PM
@TBohne Army should protect the country from foreign threats too.
 
@TBohne Business/volunteer military?
 
@rightfold You'd just get unregulated capitalism run amok and have giant corporations rule your world
 
@rightfold Tea Party says militaries should be private organizations run by voluntary donation.
note: militaries. plural.
 
Rightfold dystopia - must be a novel/film plot.
 
user1804599
@TBohne Seems plausible.
 
Ell
11:07 PM
@rightfold is libertarian then
 
@rightfold not according to anyone else
wait, I said a tautology. Oh well.
 
Ell
I have never met anyone that can conceive of a world without states
Its as if everyone is brainwashed
 
Crustacean catastrophe.
 
Ell
Nobody will even consider it
 
user1804599
@Ell That would be an anarchy.
 
Ell
11:09 PM
Of people I've met, I mean
@rightfold yes
 
@Ell libertarian comes really freaking close
 
user1804599
Anarchies naturally decay.
 
Ell
I am anarcho capitalist
 
user1804599
Somebody will gain power in one way or another.
 
@rightfold or become a state run by the person/company that acquired enough power.
 
Ell
11:10 PM
Ideally anarchist, practically I am a libertarian
 
user1804599
The ideal world would be one where work is not necessary.
 
Ell
Humans are just too immoral to deserve the paradise that is anarchy
 
Does anyone think we'll start seeing minimum basic income in our lifetimes
We already have welfare, but I mean a formal system that doesn't have requirements like welfare does
 
Ell
We have minimum wage already
 
@Prismatic some cities already have it
 
11:11 PM
minimum wage is completely different... that's a minimum you must be paid if you have a job
 
user1804599
If you automate everything and have virtually infinite supplies of energy, profit becomes unnecessary and world peace might be a thing.
 
@TBohne what, really? interesting
 
Guaranteed minimum income (GMI) (also called minimum income) is a system of social welfare provision that guarantees that all citizens or families have an income sufficient to live on, provided they meet certain conditions. Eligibility is typically determined by citizenship, a means test, and either availability for the labour market or a willingness to perform community services. The primary goal of a guaranteed minimum income is to reduce poverty. If citizenship is the only requirement, the system turns into a universal basic income. == Elements == A system of guaranteed minimum income ...
 
user1804599
The only reason you'd still attack each other is because they called you an asshat or because they don't believe in the existence of your favourite imaginary friend.
 
@TBohne Yeah thats basically welfare
 
11:12 PM
Post-scarcity is a theoretical economy in which goods, services and information are universally accessible. == The scarcity model == In a 1932 essay Lionel Robbins defines economics as being "the science which studies human behaviour as a relationship between ends and scarce means which have alternative uses." Jacque Fresco proposes a global socioeconomic system using a resource-based economy instead of a money-based economic system. === Digital abundance === Richard Stallman, the founder of the GNU project, has cited the eventual creation of a post-scarcity society as one of his motiv...
 
sufficient to live on seems subjective if you ask me
 
user1804599
Nice.
 
not being able to order or eat out every day is not sufficient for me :D
 
user1804599
@TBohne Such a world is what I want to strive for.
 
but sehe says im spoiled
so fuck do I know lol
 
11:14 PM
you're spoiled
 
you can't deny the convenience of only having to click a button to receive food
 
@AlexM. I hereby declare the denial of inconvenience of "only having to click a button to receive food"
 
@rightfold Would require good growth of ~2%/year indefinitely. Hard to figure out how to maintain that.
 
user1804599
But until then I'm a huge fan of capitalism.
 
user1804599
@TBohne Growth of what?
 
11:16 PM
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@rightfold goods. stuff.
 
user1804599
:p
 
@rightfold the amount of stuff has to grow at least proportional to the amount of people consuming stuff.
 
user1804599
I have certain ideas on how to reduce population growth but posting them here would likely result in me getting b&.
 
more so for consumables
 
user1804599
11:18 PM
They would also have additional benefits, such as better access to certain resources.
 
@rightfold Compulsory sterilisation for PHP developers?
 
@rightfold religion aside, simply removing stress from citizens tends to lower population growth by itself
 
Ell
@AlexM you order food every day?
 
@Ell He orders pizza, so no
 
11:23 PM
@Ell sometimes I move my ass to someplace to buy food e.g. mcdonalds
so I don't order i.e. home order everyday
 
@Ell In big cities, nobody cooks for themselves.
 
e.g. I can pick up food when I come back from work
but yeah haven't cooked anything myself in the past 8 months
it's really a lot of effort in the end and I have enough money to just order food which is better than what I can make
trust me, I tried getting pizza right 6 times, it got depressing afterwards
even my parents got mad
at me abusing their cooking stuff
 
inb4 flag for dish abuse
 
I hate how template parameter packs have to be last :/
 
In Western mega-cities, London, New York, LA, nobody cares if their kitchen cooker in their apartment does not work - they will never use it.
 
user1804599
11:32 PM
@codinghorror Should we also have "surgery for everyone" and "spacecraft design for everyone" courses? No, so not for software dev either.
 
user1804599
Not sure why I'm still following this moron.
 
user1804599
He hardly posts anything interesting.
 
surgery and spacecraft design 101 would be pretty cool to have at school
 
user1804599
No.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. Would you mind keeping it until I visit Berlin again?
 
11:35 PM
lldb is pretty crash happy :(
 
user1804599
They would be incredibly useless since these topics require years of good education.
 
user1804599
(As does software development.)
 
now I have to use gcc... which has crappy error messages
 
Hmm
@rightfold You have a point
 
@Prismatic There is a compiler/linker with good error messages?
 
11:38 PM
@MartinJames clang has good ones, doesn't it?
 
@nabijaczleweli Not spectacularly, no.
 
@nabijaczleweli It ain't rocket surgery!
 
@MartinJames It It advertises itself as having them. Huh.
 
Ell
@AlexM. You need to learn to cook man
 
what for
I'll never be able to make better food than the chefs in restaurants
it's not worth investing that much time imo
I'd rather focus on what I know best
 
11:42 PM
@Nooble I would make a Jędrzej's crappy photoshop of that but too late
 
@nabijaczleweli Doitdoitdoit.
@Ell So do I.
 
Ell
@AlexM. That isn't true, you can make food as well as a chef does in a restaurant
Or uou can learn to with not that great an effort
 
how would you know, you don't even live with me
 
Ell
You shoild learn to make your own pizza
Then you can perfect your own recipe and get it right every time
All in favour of @AlexM. Learning to cook his own pizzas say aye
Aye!
 
are you on mobile or drunk :P
 
Ell
11:50 PM
I am on mobile
Why? :P
You gotta learn to cook man
 
you don't explicitly reply and you have spelling mistakes
 
Ell
You're missing out
Oh lol yeah just noticed them
I'm mobile. I always am if its past 11pm normal time
 
the first borderlands looks nice at night
 
Ell
I have a question I am interested in hearing the answers to
Is it more immoral to kill a horse or an otter?
 
I wouldn't kill someone's horse
horses are very expensive
did you know
horses were very valuable in the wild west
horse theft was usually punished w/ death penalties
 
11:59 PM
Used a photo from "Bogowie" ("Gods")
 
@nabijaczleweli Woonnnddderrrful.
 

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