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8:00 PM
well, the implied statement is that the percentage for women is noticably higher than that for men.
after all it's a non-statement if the rate for men is the same as the rate for women.
 
agreed about the non-statement thing, but the way wilx interpreted it was implied more.
i await his answer. i'm curious
then again, the data is a little more complicated than it seems, as men are in "above ground platforms" and "construction" sites more often than women, and those are dangerous places to be and would pollute the pie chart of serious injuries
 
correlation certainly does not imply causation
 
we really need to know the percentage of each group getting serious injuries on flat surfaces to the percentage of each group working on flat surfaces
 
well
 
not the percentages, sorry
 
8:04 PM
logically I'd assume that above-ground platforms and construction sites also involve flat surfaces.
 
wrong word
but you know what i mean
 
so the two don't necessarily seem to be mutually exclusive categories.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow why does this overload of reduce take a function that takes two arguments of the same type?
 
Hmm...
 
8:08 PM
@AlexM. my reaction time suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks
granted 1/3 of the other team has 5 yr veteran badges or something
 
I cannot find this exact number in this report. The report mostly talks about injuries in general and has a chapter on women' and minors' injuries where I have found the 38 % number.
 
ah
so what you mean is that the report is a pile of useless junk.
teach you to check your sources before quoting them ;p
 
@Puppy No.
 
@wilx That is the direct outcome of what you have just said.
it gives statistics for women without comparable statistics for men.
therefore there is no available comparison and it's utterly meaningless.
 
8:15 PM
Apparently @CNN thinks a flag comprised of butt plugs and dildos is an ISIS flag. #UniteBlue #news #p2 http://t.co/TzuxcmLvTV
wait wat
> @PeripateNic @Kelsblells @Criticl_me @CNN @TheDailyShow Next thing you know they will be talking about weapons of ass destruction
 
I'm fairly sure they don't really destroy the ass.
 
@Puppy That, of course, depends on what you care about. It's not useful for comparing how often men vs. women are injured in particular ways. If you care primarily about things like how to minimize injuries, simply knowing what happens the most often is useful, even if it's useless for comparison between sexes.
 
As long as you get proper lube application.
 
@JerryCoffin Which is the implicit way that he used it in the original statement.
 
@JerryCoffin Oh hai, long time no see
 
8:17 PM
besides, even if you wanted to use it for a more useful purpose, there would still be a thousand more things to consider
 
but it's not useless
 
like how often each group actually gets injured
 
lol well it does kind of look like the isis flag
 
it's meaningless to say "The highest cause for injuries for women is X and for men is Y" if women get injured 10x more or less often than men.
 
@Borgleader Yeah--amazingly little opportunity to post while driving across the Mojave desert.
 
8:18 PM
I wonder if I can get married to a male friend for tax reasons and not be assumed to be gay.
 
and furthermore, you might well decide that gender is not the dominating factor in deciding your most likely injuries and there could be a fuckton of other correlations.
not to mention controlling for things like socioeconomic status and profession
 
@JerryCoffin Hmm yes, I can see how that would be problematic. On a scale from california to tatooine how warm is that place?
 
@Rapptz I don't know about the US, but in Canada, for privacy reasons, it's illegal to ask someone's sexual orientation. Which means people can't question your motives if you marry someone of the same gender.
 
I meant socially.
 
Well, if you marry someone people will assume you're in love with that person.
 
8:20 PM
@Borgleader Makes Tatooine seem balmy by comparison.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Is that speaking from personal experience?
 
@Puppy Not yet.
 
@Puppy Given that serious injuries are in ratio of 18,3 % (women) to 81,7 % (men) and there were 43 543 of them, we can say there were about 35574 cases of serious injuries by men. Walking was, in total, in 7 482 cases, out of which 98 were by women. That is about 20 % of serious injuries happened to men while walking.
 
@JerryCoffin yikes
@Rapptz what the fuck did i just watch
 
8:23 PM
people being on fire
 
an amusement park in Taiwan
they did some kind of effect that involved spraying powder on people and they turned the stage lights up too high
cue fire.
 
oh my god...
 
Ell
That's awful
 
220 people burned, at least 80 seriously, I believe
 
i have no words
thats terrible
 
8:24 PM
no one died
 
Ell
Still
 
@Rapptz Yet.
 
dont need dead ppl for an even to be terrible
 
yeah
that's gotta be as bad as nearly a whole hour on the roads
 
@Rapptz It's still gonna hurt like hell.
 
8:26 PM
probably
but all I saw were 2nd degree burns
 
Ell
You go for a good time and come back with burns
Its better than having to have your leg amputated though
 
better than the shooting in Tunisia
 
Ell
Like the girl at Alton towers
 
it's girls now
but that's very missing white woman of you
 
8:50 PM
@Ell what was the deal with that? I heard about some fuck up, but didn't care to read up about it :P
 
Ell
One coaster rammed into another
And their legs smashed into the one in front
 
woah, like one was waiting in the station and the other came in?
what ride was it?
ooh, the smIler... I was reading that as smaller... was wondering why so candid about what ride
 
Ell
The Smiler
 
(From this video.)
 
9:36 PM
God, Papa John's sends me so many coupons for half-off. It's like they agree that their pizza isn't worth the menu price.
 
@rightfold Because that makes it possible to parallelize. You can't parallelize a fold.
 
user1804599
absolutely terrible
 
Java 8 introduced lambdas because of parallelism, primarily.
 
user1804599
absolutely terrible
 
What are you working on currently?
 
9:43 PM
@Rapptz Hmm, you get less taxes if you are married?
 
yes
 
Why
 
why not
 
Get less taxes or pay less taxes?
 
pay
 
9:44 PM
Because it makes no sense
 
Marriage trades sex for tax.
 
@Jefffrey Policy to grow the population probably
 
does getting tax breaks for having kids make no sense to you too
 
Also wouldn't you have to live with that friend?
 
no you can file separately
 
user1804599
9:46 PM
@fredoverflow compiler
 
@Rapptz Are you planning on having kids with your male friend?
 
no
I'm not getting married
 
Then what are the "tax reasons" you were mentioning here:
1 hour ago, by Rapptz
I wonder if I can get married to a male friend for tax reasons and not be assumed to be gay.
 
I'm so confused
 
@rightfold Are you making progress?
 
9:47 PM
What does me not getting married have to do with the tax benefits it receives?
 
Haven't worked on mine in quite some time.
 
What
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow yes.
 
@Rapptz Why don't you marry a woman instead for tax benefits?
 
So you posted this message, which assumes that there are tax benefits for marrying a (male) friend. If so, what are those tax benefits?
 
9:49 PM
 
Married couples have a different tax class in Germany, but I don't know the details.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow absolutely terrible
 
user1804599
This is one of the main reasons I strongly oppose gay marriage.
 
Because you don't want people to save taxes?
 
I oppose to people paying less taxes due to the sole fact that they are married.
 
user1804599
9:51 PM
No, I don't want the law to distinguish between people who are married and those who are not.
 
Less taxes for having kids? Sure.
 
@Jefffrey Not sure you'd get it because chances are you know nothing about US tax laws.
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey No.
 
So you'll just get angry and upset over something you know nothing about.
 
Woookay
 
9:52 PM
@rightfold If being married made no difference, why marry at all?
 
user1804599
For fun? No idea.
 
user1804599
Marriage should not be a thing law concerns itself with.
 
So who/what should be concerned with marriage? Church?
 
user1804599
Especially not if it's limited. For example, it's not possible to marry yourself, or to marry multiple people. Or to marry a tree or an axolotl. That's retarded.
 
lol
 
user1804599
9:54 PM
The sole reason marriage exists is because separation of church and state is a myth.
 
user1804599
Unless Eurabia becomes a fact I wouldn't be surprised if the concept of marriage would be largely gone within 60 years.
 
^ Church approves of marriage
 
user1804599
XD
 
Ell
Yeah marriage should be the concern of churches only
Or the mosques etc.
 
Or mosquitos
 
9:58 PM
What about civil unions?
@rightfold Oh boy the hyperbole.
 
Prior to gay marriage being legal a lot of states allowed same-sex civil unions.
The issue is that civil unions do not come with the same federal benefits as marriage.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow this test passes!
 
user1804599
final String code = "(module A) (package p (module B) (module C)) (module D)";
final Reader reader = new Reader(new StringReader(code));
Set<Class<?>> classes = Compile.compileFile(reader.readTerm(), reader.readTerm(), reader.readTerm());
assertEquals(classes.size(), 4);
 
@Ell Why can’t non-religious people marry?
 
@rightfold Are you using Java? Why?
 
user1804599
10:05 PM
I don't want to depend on the Scala standard library.
 
Kotlin has a much smaller standard library.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow how do I create a Set<String> from a Stream<String>?
 
yourStream.collect(Collectors.toSet())
 
user1804599
nice
 
10:07 PM
@sehe I asked about > > vs >> for consistency (either add ws on both sides, or on none)
@LucDanton They can, of course
 
user1804599
Set literals! Arrays.asList("A", "p.B","p.C","D").stream().collect(Collectors.toSet()) :D
 
I don't know what's bigger news, rightfold using Java or gay marriage.
 
@fredoverflow rightfold of course
 
@fredoverflow You mean, like, marriage?
 
Ell
@LucDanton because marriage is by definition religious
Marriage is a christian thing
I'm probably wrong
 
10:08 PM
@nabijaczleweli straight marriage isn't news
 
@Ell Well, It originated from it
 
Ell
But to me, a marriage is religious
A civil partnership is well... Civil
 
Military marriage
Fat Man and Little Boy
 
@Ell It's marriage, but not church(y) marriage
Different from a legal perspective
 
What the fuck, rightfold is doing java?
 
10:10 PM
@rightfold Stream.of("A", "p.B", "p.C", "D").collect(toSet()) with a static import for toSet.
 
user1804599
Nisce.
 
Ell
You should only get legal benefits from a civil partnership
 
3 mins ago, by fredoverflow
I don't know what's bigger news, rightfold using Java or gay marriage.
 
rightfold using Java is news?
 
10:11 PM
@Jefffrey It's news to me. He used to bash it all the time, remember?
 
@Ell Is that not so?
 
user1804599
assertTrue(classes.stream().allMatch(c -> Modifier.isFinal(c.getModifiers()))); beautiful.
 
user1804599
I love Java.
4
 
user1804599
My IDE even vomits equals and hashCode implementations over my code!
 
user1804599
And it warns me about passing a char to the ctor of StringBuilder!
 
10:14 PM
@rightfold inb4 flag
 
@rightfold inb4 Walter Bright quote
 
user1804599
No, Venkat quote.
 
@rightfold What does the warning say?
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow that the char is converted to an int which specifies the capacity so it's probably not what you want when passing it to StringBuilder.
 
in Java Sucks!, May 9 '13 at 10:14, by FredOverflow
> The IDE is great. With one key, I can add 100 lines of boilerplate!
 
10:15 PM
@fredoverflow A-oo-oo-oo-ooo
 
in Java Sucks!, May 9 '13 at 10:14, by FredOverflow
> Very happy to see that Walter agrees with me that if an IDE is required to write good code, there is a problem with the language. Take that people who disagreed with me on the Internet!
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow :D
 
user1804599
C+
 
35
Q: How do you feel about being asked to code during an interview?

Erik FunkenbuschI have seen a lot of comments about good interview questions and puzzles to require potential developers to solve during the interview process. I have personally had several interviews in which the interviewer has asked me to write some piece of code or solve a problem during the interview, and ...

> It's a competitive market, and there are plenty of programers who can write decent code even when they're nervous, and "not in the zone". Yes, I may miss a good employee now and then, but I also miss out on a lot of disasters. We can't adjust our product schedules to wait for you to get in the zone.
lol
 
Fuckkity-fuck, I did a robot. I trod on a stray strand of barbed-wire on my way home. I've wrapped it up now, and there is minimal leaking. There should be Valgrind for feet:(
 
user1804599
10:18 PM
@fredoverflow help how do you do exceptions in lamdbas
 
There are women who are specialized in feet-grinding.
@rightfold checked or unchecked? ;)
 
> I feel that by asking a developer to prove his skills during an interview, all you're doing is finding out if they can code under pressure, and at the drop of a hat. It has almost no ability to determine how you would perform in a "real life" development situation.
lol
 
@fredoverflow Easy - I don't want to work for them. Coding is easy, the whole development life-cycle is not. They would be better setting a debugging test.
 
@Jefffrey "Dating is useless, because relationships are not dates."
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow checked ;_;
 
10:20 PM
Let me make a chess metaphore: Check!
 
En Hans Passant
 
@rightfold Why are you using checked exceptions? Existing framework?
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
Which one?
 
user1804599
Class#getConstructor throws NoSuchMethodException.
 
user1804599
10:22 PM
But I already figured it out:
 
user1804599
assertTrue(classes.stream().allMatch(c -> {
    Constructor<?> constructor;
    try {
        constructor = c.getConstructor();
    } catch (NoSuchMethodException ex) {
        return false;
    }
    return Modifier.isPrivate(constructor.getModifiers());
}));
 
This girl's voice man
 
Who cares if they can write code? Code patterns flow easily off the net. Can they design, can they debug? Can they get stuff working?
 
@rightfold What's the use of the local variable?
assertTrue(classes.stream().allMatch(c -> {
    Constructor<?> constructor;
    try {
        return Modifier.isPrivate(c.getConstructor().getModifiers());
    } catch (NoSuchMethodException ex) {
        return false;
    }
}));
 
user1804599
That also catches exceptions thrown by the other expressions.
 
10:25 PM
ah
 
user1804599
try bodies should always be as narrow as possible.
 
Where can I buy Effective Rightfold?
 
lol
 
@fredoverflow In the popular fiction section, next to religion
 
rightfold.sexy prolly
 
10:26 PM
user image
5
 
Don't throw bombs like that on saturday night
 
@Rapptz Hang on.. progress is best mande in small steps..
 
@Ell So pre-Christianity Romans didn’t marry? What about Joseph and Mary, were they married in the Bible?
 
No, of course not
 
user1804599
> java.lang.VerifyError: Operand stack overflow
 
user1804599
10:29 PM
;_;
 
Ell
@LucDanton or whatever the Jew equivalent was
My point is
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow blog posts coming soon on rightfold.sexy
 
@Ell Java + new = Jew?
 
@Ell Alright, what about Ancient Egyptians then?
Should we restore their religion in order for people to marry?
 
Ell
My point is, it should be the religions own rules that decide what the religious equivalent of marriage should be allowed
 
10:30 PM
I don't get what his point is
 
Ell
The law shouldn't force muslims to alter Islam to make gay "marriage" (Islam equivalent) allowed in Islam
 
@Ell Does it?
 
Ell
With Islam? No
But it has with christian marriage
 
Erm, no.
 
In what way?
 
Ell
10:32 PM
Civil partnerships between men were legal before "gay marriage" was
I'm running out of battery :(
 
user1804599
Yay it works. :D
 
Ell
I will have to continue the discussion at a later date
 
oh my god
Python's classes are so weird
 
user1804599
Why?
 
@rightfold Because when you declare variables that are alone, they are automatically static
Also, logic-dependent definitions are allowed. Sounds interesting; metaprogramming???
 
user1804599
10:39 PM
You can't declare variables in Python.
 
user1804599
You can only define them.
 
user1804599
Python is pointlessly dynamic.
 
@rightfold oh, sorry.
@rightfold It seems really flexible, though
 
What's "logic-dependent definitions"?
 
@Jefffrey That means I can stick a class definition inside of an if-else clause
 
10:40 PM
@VermillionAzure Too flexible is his/her point
 
@Jefffrey Well, Python itself is a very-high level language
 
@VermillionAzure That has nothing to do with metaprogramming
 
@Jefffrey ugh meta+programming doesn't mean what I think it does
Well, if Wikipedia is right, then Python can do that anyways by default
 
Ell
Dynamic typing has its uses I guess vOv
 
Such as?
 
10:47 PM
@Ell "I can be whatever you want me to be, baby" ;)
 
user1804599
7月8日 is a great song.
 
@rightfold sounds so Japanese
 
Ell
@Jefffrey if you want to write really quick I guess
Without specifying type requirements
 
I don't know what makes a song sound Japanese but I think it's the guitar style and the drums; oh, and the harmony style.
 
Ell
Or sthng
 
10:49 PM
@Ell You don't think about types when you write code?
 
Ell
I do
But in python I have to write less
I don't know
I dislike dynamic languages generally
 
@rightfold I like it too
 
Ell
Okay really no battery now
Bye!
 
@Ell That's good
I'd hate for you to get a charge of battery
That might send you to jail
 
@rightfold Can you show me the definition of classes? I wanna play around with your code and see if I can make it leaner.
 
@Ell Bye
 
@Ell bye
 
user1804599
java.lang.ClassFormatError: Illegal class name "p/q/Optional[C]$/D" in class file <Unknown> lol
 

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