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12:00 AM
@Nooble Not sure, where you're going with this, but my tea is mostly cold.
 
@nabijaczleweli Oh ok.
I'll be putting that in your portfolio...
 
@Nooble w0t
 
@nabijaczleweli "Have a plan to kill everyone you meet".
 
@Nooble Ah. Good you didn't meet me. Right? RIGHT?
Runs away
 
@nabijaczleweli Koalas can run very fast; they can reach about 763 m/s when chasing eucalyptus trees.
 
12:05 AM
@Nooble Is that the angular momentum relative to the earths center?
 
@sehe Maybe...
 
12:20 AM
@BartekBanachewicz It is "just global", singleton scope in IoC containers means "one shared instance", the type doesn't do anything special
@JohanLarsson Completely silly, why are you making private ctors
 
Just an idea I had for solving the problem with the least code
Maintaining ~1000 rows of container setup is not much fun
imo private ctor makes some sense as it indicates that newing it is not intended
 
DNC
Hey there
 
Yo, who wants to help me out with a design question?
 
@VermillionAzure Maybe
 
DNC
I'll help you out with the design, so you can help me out with an algorithm?
 
12:28 AM
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Q: What features are standard for a testing framework?

VermillionAzureSo, I've been developing a few programs for AutoCAD 2005, and I've been constantly running into problems--specifically, I've been working on a program that needs to draw lines based on absolute angles ("azimuths") and distances, converting from a special input format to degrees to radians and bac...

 
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@JohanLarsson Use convention-based registration
 
how?
the suggestion was a convention btw
 
idk how Ninject does it, in Windsor you can do stuff like Classes.FromThisAssembly().InNamespace('whatever').WithServices.AllInterfaces()‌​.LifetimeTransient()
Though I'm not using it in the latest thing because Agent Mulder for R# sucks
I'll get to that someday
 
@nabijaczleweli ...
Lisp is fine
It's beautiful
 
12:34 AM
@CatPlusPlus ok I'll check it out, ty
 
@VermillionAzure Stockholm syndrome
 
Making ctor private just makes testing more difficult for no real reason
 
yea in a way
I use the container in tests also so not a huge issue
 
Oh hey. I RMA'ed a WD Green drive two week ago. And now it looks like they're sending me back a WD Black. (according to the model #)
 
If you need the container in your unit tests then you're doing it wrong probably :v
 
12:35 AM
maybe
 
Otherwise they're more of integration tests, unit tests should really focus on the unit and mock all the dependencies
 
solved the problem with having to fix setups when moving things around
 
@Mysticial You won’t be able to go back obviously.
 
the container passes in mocks for thinsg that should be mocked
 
@LucDanton I don't like the WD Green drives. Sure they're cheap, but they're damn slow. And with the constant powering down, it's pretty bad.
 
12:37 AM
really nice with two line setups
downside is more advanced code
 
I sent them: WD40EZRX-00SPEB0
They're sending me back: WD4003FZEX-00Z4SA0
If it really is a WD Black drive, I can use it for a different purpose.
 
@Mysticial hey i wanted to talk to you and ask you a question
 
You worked at Google/YouTube right?
 
yeah
 
12:48 AM
Were their protocols and environment similar to the rest of the company?
Or is it all separated like modules?
In terms of the company culture and protocol
i.e. some companies allow sub-parts of it to act semi-independently and the way they operate is different.
 
It's pretty well integrated.
 
@Mysticial So you were working at Google, not exactly YouTube, and not the other way around?
 
YouTube is owned by Google.
It's "just another division".
 
Harmful Things Considered Harmful
The bestest book
 
@Mysticial What I'm asking is whether things at the YouTube division is similar to the other divisions
In terms of company protocol, culture, hiring, etc.
 
12:50 AM
Yeah, it's the same.
Other than not being at the main campus.
 
@Mysticial Okay then.
 
@Mysticial He was making a "once you go black you never go back" joke
i.e. woosh my amigo
 
If I wanted to intern, do the people actually working make decisions on hiring?
 
@Rapptz Clearly my troll radar wasn't working.
 
@Rapptz you get me homie
 
12:56 AM
Will you still love me when I'm no longer young and buttiful?
 
no promises
 
I don't know will you still have that butte?
 
@Mysticial ???
 
But promises are essential for futures
 
no future
 
12:57 AM
I'm going to really try and I was wondering if I should try to target a certain division and send them an email or something.
@Mysticial What do you think?
 
@VermillionAzure ?
I was responding to Rapptz. Not you.
 
@Mysticial yeah I know
 
@VermillionAzure write a program to factor numbers and beat some world records and you've got yourself a job.
 
@Blob I'm not interested in doing such a thing
 
some scrub already took calculating pi
 
12:59 AM
@VermillionAzure Oh, you asked me a question, and I didn't see it.
 
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@VermillionAzure Yes.
 
I heard Google has swimming pools. That's nice. But do they have anime?
 
They pull out senior employees and they decide who gets hired.
 
@Mysticial I see.
So if I were to express interest and do some preliminary research that pertains to their interest, I can assume that they would see that?
 
1:00 AM
@buttifulbuttefly That is entirely out of hand. Where is it?
 
@VermillionAzure Getting into Google is a lot easier if they come to you rather than you going to them.
 
@jaggedSpire Some CUDA question
 
@Mysticial I clearly don't have the skills to do something independently
 
How does Google find people to go to?
 
@buttifulbuttefly Ah.
 
1:01 AM
I prefer to be a landlady who own multiple rental properties in a developed country, my most preferred profession!
 
*cough* fastest program to factor large numbers *cough*
 
Some of you might've noticed by now. My assets are not having years and years of programming experience and playing around enough to make something of value.
 
@Blob They found me via my SO account.
 
Time to unregister
 
@Mysticial RIP Cinch then, <500 rep isn't getting him shit
 
1:02 AM
If I found Mysticial through his SO account I'd think he's a train driver.
 
@buttifulbuttefly he didn't even add that train image as far as i know, lol
 
I like the zest of the newblets ... which reminds me when I was young, tender and naive
 
@buttifulbuttefly You're pretty close. IIRC, the guy admitted that he found me through the train question on Hacker News. Then he found my other shit after Googling around a bit.
 
@Mysticial That's pretty fortunate.
Unfortunately I don't have hefty years as an asset.
...
Wait you crunch numbers and you end up at YouTube?
I hope that was some sort of data analytics division or encryption/compression thing.
 
Remember when YouTube learned to count to more than 4 million? They need all the help they can.
 
1:05 AM
A recruiter from Apple also found me through the train question. It ended up being a bidding war between Apple and Google which Google won.
 
@buttifulbuttefly stop laughing at the ignorance of newbies
 
@LucDanton 2 billion IIRC
 
I can sense that bitterness
 
butteness
 
@LucDanton I remember the internal email thread on that.
It was pretty hilarious.
 
1:06 AM
@LucDanton ?
 
@Mysticial Well, do you have any tips for me, then?
I'll probably fail miserably but I'll still take a go.
 
@Mysticial Still petty money compared to finance!
 
@VermillionAzure Get good at something. I'm serious.
 
He's good at being terrible
 
Whether it be a project, or your SO account. You need something.
 
1:07 AM
@buttifulbuttefly pls send help
 
how is babillion formed
 
@Mysticial something bright, i see.
Hm...
 
git gud scrub
 
Well, as of right now, I guess I have my R internship, my Lisp job, and my petty C++ as well as an Android project.
 
@buttifulbuttefly Yeah pretty much... But finance is also much more difficult to get into than tech. And the job is much more stressful.
Though I'm starting to get used to it and the long hours.
 
1:09 AM
Not sure it's more difficult, but the stress part is an understatement :p
 
@Mysticial Would they look favorably at software development experience?
 
do you have to sign away your soul when you get into finance
 
@buttifulbuttefly you don't get rich being in finance unless you are all the way on the top
pyramid scheme, like human society
 
Technically, I can say that I'm developing programs that will be used by real people at companies for production work.
 
@VermillionAzure who wouldn't?
 
1:09 AM
@chmod711telkitty my entry-level salary says the opposite but whatever
 
@Mysticial Did you have prior work experience before?
Like, as a software developer?
 
No, word has he doesn't even know C++
 
@VermillionAzure No. I've never worked before. At all. Not even at YouTube or Google.
 
@VermillionAzure even if he did i'm fairly sure ycruncher would top all of that.
 
We're still riding that joke train amirite guise
 
1:11 AM
@Mysticial no, I mean prior to the Google/Apple interest
 
@chmod711telkitty Congratulations we're all very proud of you
 
I'm assuming you're like really young or something.
 
Now if you could use all that money to get a brain transplant it would be your best investment ever
2
 
Just having assets doesn't mean it's liquid :v
 
water is p cheap actually
And over 300 confirmed retarded posts
 
1:13 AM
lol
 
@Mysticial nvm. Sorry for the dumb questions.
 
hahaha plane prices dropped 200 euros again you know what I'll be ditching /dev/urandom for whatever plane price aggregator feed from now on
I'm p tempted to buy the ticket 1 day before departure :w
 
You know what they say about people who gamble
They die
Or something
 
That's why I'll be flying with ~~Malaysia Airlines~~, plane will be tagged [[noreturn]]
 
@CatPlusPlus don't they say that about people who don't gamble too?
 
1:20 AM
although it's not that much in USD term because Australian dollar has been going down vs the US dollar
 
I'm starting to have doubts if this data shovelling will manage to finish before Tuesday
Ugh
Fuck this project
 
Is it still the database transfer thing
 
A helpful guide on how to rewrite something existing from scratch on a different tech stack: 1. fuckin dont you moron
 
Interestingly the departures on June 30 now cost 14 903 euros
 
first class I assume
 
1:22 AM
At that price I'd rather crash into something classier than the pacific ocean thanks
@chmod711telkitty No, economy
 
business costs less
 
@buttifulbuttefly Yes
 
Feels like you started that thing forever ago :w
 
I can't paralellise it because I have to keep track of current state for incremental shovel
It's slow as fuck
It has to translate between MySQL and PostgreSQL so it's on the mercy of both
 
@CatPlusPlus how slow is that?
 
1:23 AM
6 to 8 weeks
 
On 30th at 1AM we're supposed to do the final incremental shovel and then launch
I'm gonna die
 
And can't you check the progress so far and extrapoolate?
 
It varies too wildly
Also I'm so tired I have to constantly fix shit
 
Soon you'll be CTO of Carotting Brains Inc.
 
Also I feel like I'm partly to blame and should've known better which is not helping
 
1:28 AM
can't you delay launch? surely whoever's in charge doesn't want a broken product shipped
 
hahahahaha the launch has been delayed for over 3 months now
 
.....
well, another week can't hurt too bad then
 
We're no longer on deadlines, we're on ultimatum
 
have fun :|
 
So it will hurt a lot
 
1:30 AM
@CatPlusPlus You'll be OK, you have done your best to avoid the oncoming disaster and I'm sure that none of the eventual blame will be attach...... nah, you're screwed.
 
following a book and its code examples are broken because apparently exception system was replaced or something. ;_;
 
So it takes 20 minutes to process a page
Of 50k items
And there's like 120M rows in one table
Which adds up to a month
So that's fun
Fucking hell
 
@CatPlusPlus ok so there's essentially no way for it to complete by the 30th
 
If I could parallelise it by a factor of 8+ which is probably not going to happen
Fucking
 
1:40 AM
katt, gå och lägg dig
 
And also that's OFFSET/LIMIT based paging, so it'll slow down terribly at around page 50 out of 52000
This is not going to work
Oh wait I did math wrong
Oh, no, that was a different value, yep totally boned
 
Also there's message table that has 11M+ rows which will take 3 days by itself
 
> Copy and paste in Windows Explorer is already complexe for an average Windows user
Moreover, I can open XML in my NotePad to monitor data in it. I liked it
> We notice you've got an ad-blocker switched on. Perhaps you'd like to support us another way?
no
 
Hm I could parallelise it after all since I'm ordering by the date anyway
So don't have to lock on every state update, just after a pag
 
1:52 AM
well there you go
go and save the launch
 
We'll probably have to just boot up MySQL and load the last dump and use that for those 120M+ rows anyway
I hate everything
I'm so glad they changed requirements and another table of 44M rows was obsoleted
 
Those are huge tables
 
@CatPlusPlus No PostgresSQL?
 
New database is Postgres that's why we can't just use the dump directly
 
I just found a great user profile on The Guardian, not sure if troll or highly retarded. The description is golden.
 
2:23 AM
Sup
 
I know this is the wrong room but I am not sure where else to ask, anyone here know sed?
?
This is my first time in here
 
@user51819 Got any pics of him?
 
"little sed" we call him
 
I want to install a tow bar for the car, went to a few places to get quotes
 
@AlexM. Time to suck at CS:GO
 
2:32 AM
I think there were two colluding ones, one called the other for advice and quoted a much high price
car dealer wanted a hefty price for installing it too
But I figured out their parts price and labour price but talking to them
So I know the exact minimum price for installing the tow bar and still maintain a good quality
Art of talking to people: extract information by talking to them
 
2:49 AM
@chmod711telkitty I prefer the Sherlock method
Something like "People don't want to tell you things, but they love to contradict you."
 
Hey, question: How important is R?
 
vey impotant
But if you're trying to pluck values from beta integrals and shit then yeah R is pretty important
 
They probably going to call me a bitch, too bad human like to bad mouth those who use higher intelligence to defeat them ... but they started on moral low ground, not me
 
Wtffff
I keep waking up at 5
I can't sleep over 6 hours even if I'm tired
 
im so baddddd
 
2:53 AM
Etc is happening it's been like this for days
Wtf auto correct thinks Wtf is etc
 
@AlexM. Do something stupid tiring
 
@user51819 ...
what's beta integrals?
@AlexM. Are you still tired when you get up?
 
@Borgleader everyone is bad at first so it's fine. When I get to a pc I'll drop some specific links for you not just a playlist
 
@VermillionAzure Well they show up a lot in this sort of thing en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student's_t-distribution
abandon hope all ye who enter here etc
 
Why is chat on phones so painful
 
2:58 AM
well they are quite hard and made of plastic
you might consider a chair
 
Last Online 7 hrs, 40 mins ago
Onvm that's an ok sleep
I thought I went to be later
 
32 + 96 xp, ffs i need 4500 to lvl
this is gonna take a fucking while
 
@ScottW No
 
3:13 AM
@Borgleader game?
 
@Borgleader leveling was added to stop smurfs and stuff
You need lb 3 to play comp mode
Other than that, it's just a trinket on your profile, not worth much
The comp rank is more important
 
@AlexM. there are smurfs in CS?
 
But ye it takes a lot to level up lol even if you own everything in dm it's still like 90xp
 
Dr. House and Dr.Cuddy are in my game
wooo medics
 
@Borgleader yes, they either play with their low rank friends or just want to win because they can't at their rank
So they smurf
 
3:27 AM
lol serious vidya games
Matchmaking is crap
 
oh CS:GO
 
@AlexM. I have to learn to crouch when shooting
i lost a few duels agaisnt the same guy and i noticed he always crouches (and wins)
 
You wanna get crosshair placement right I can't give video on phone but it's the most important aspect
 
96+288 xp, ok this is better
 
You also want to learn to sidestep rather than crouch when against some1
 
3:30 AM
we were both in hallways, not much sidestepping potential
 
Crouching is great against players with perfect crosshair placement because it throws their aim off
Since they aim at head 100% of the time
I usually crouch only if my initial tap or short burst misses or he fires first
 
@buttifulbuttefly HAHA NOPE POSTGRES DEADLOCKS
 
Sidestepping can be on small distances too what it means is you press D to strafe right then immediately tap A to cancel momentum and regain accuracy. Fire a few rounds and repeat in the other dir
You are hard to hit for a lot of players and the accuracy of done right is great
It takes a while to make it a reflex
 
I'll start by not sucking, then I'll try stutter stepping
 
Welp I guess I can't have transaction per page
This will be so awesome
 
3:37 AM
That's sidestepping ivgues you can call it stutter too
Stutterstep is important becauses it hardwires you to always be aware of which dir you're moving in, what acc you currently have an d if you need to cancel momentum at any point in time
Even if you're not sidestepping, if an enemy catches you by surprise while moving your reflex will become cancelling your momentun
Etc
I was unable to sidestep on my old membrane keyboard
I could not tap the other dir quickly enough, I did it instantly on mx blues
But my old keyboard was really cheap and bad so...
 
heh, my keyboard is super old
 
@Borgleader that one is good :P mine was an a4tech that costed like $8
 
it is but, ive had it for i think 8 years now at least and some of the keys arent as responsive as they used to
I might replace it with this keyboard but i need to find out if its quiet enough first.
its tagged as "stealth" so its supposed to be quieter than its non stealth brethren but i dont know by how much
im also going to wait for it to be on special
 

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