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12:02 AM
anyway
collision stuff
 
12:12 AM
box2d
 
Huh. Is there a reason why there is no boost-1.58.0 tag anywhere on https://github.com/boostorg/boost ? It's been released a week ago now...
 
I want to set up a dual boot system (Windows/Mac). Should I get Windows Pro for that? Or is home sufficient?
 
What for
 
I want to try C#.
 
Just remove OSX
 
12:16 AM
@CatPlusPlus you need two boots to walk
 
why not just use a VM
 
@Prismatic Actually, I'm considering using VMWare Fusion instead of dual boot.
 
Meh
Don't try to run VS in a VM
 
@sehe Why do you say that? Does Windows not work well in a VM? I figured it'd be okay for just programming stuff
@CatPlusPlus okay
 
12:17 AM
I could of course use MonoDevelop on OS X. Dunno if it's any good. I shall report on this after my research is done.
 
@StackedCrooked For dual-booting, I don't think it makes a difference. The higher-end versions of Windows come into play when/if you want to do things in a VM.
 
A reaaaaallly long time ago I used to use a VM called Parallels at work through OS X for Windows... worked great
 
Whatever you do, make sure you install Windows first. It will overwrite all the bootloader stuff from anything else.
 
2 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
Just remove OSX
 
Admittedly, I've never tried to dual-boot with OSX.
 
12:18 AM
@CatPlusPlus Maybe he wants an OS that isn't shit
/runs
 
@Prismatic That's what I'm proposing
 
I've used dual-boot in the past. It works, but it's not convenient task-switching mechanism..
 
@Prismatic dual boot is dual boot. It's strange to reply with "why no vm"
 
@Prismatic That would be a good reason for replacing OS X. :-)
 
Dual boot is a waste of time and effort and everything
 
12:20 AM
I've found it easier to just not dual-boot. Have separate machines. Or have two different drives which I only plug one in at a time.
 
Two drives is still dual boot, except now you have to do even more
 
I wish there was some kind of system like a "chroot" that allowed me to run Windows as a userspace program on Mac. (Kinda like Wine.)
 
So good job
 
@JerryCoffin I can't imagine anything being worse than Windows 8
 
@StackedCrooked We call that virtualisation
 
12:20 AM
@Mysticial What time is wasted by dual-booting from separate drives, and just select which one to boot from in the BIOS?
 
@Prismatic SOX is worse than Arch
 
And I loved using OSX back on... ~10.6 I wanna say. I even set up servers using OS X Server (do they still have that?). Was pretty awesome
I had like a $10k+ mac pro at work
those were the days
 
@Prismatic One of the many results of my age is that I don't have to imagine--I can remember it quite clearly.
 
lol $10k
That's like 10 computers
 
@CatPlusPlus Medical image processing
 
12:22 AM
Strictly better computers at that
Good spending
 
It had an absurd amount of ram, vram etc. It was actually really cool
medical imaging datasets are huge, and that thing would chew through them and show some pretty great volumetric data really quickly
 
@Prismatic I'm gonna guess that some (most?) of @Mysticial's machines had more RAM, faster processors, and lower price tags.
 
@JerryCoffin That would probably work too. Though the physical connect/disconnect is still needed to prevent the installers from interacting with the other OS.
 
@Mysticial Wut
 
@Mysticial It's needed when you install the OS, but afterwards you can connect them all simultaneously without a problem (which, rereading, is probably what you were saying, but I wasn't quite quick enough to understand immediately).
 
12:25 AM
@JerryCoffin Probably. At the time though, we used this one medical image viewer a lot that was OS X only and it was probably more important than worrying about cheaper hardware with a PC
 
You can just not mount unused filesystems
 
volumetric rendering looks so cool
Y'all should play around with it if you're ever curious. There's a foss package called slicer that can load most datasets you might get from your doctors for CT scans / MRIs etc
My dad got really sick once with a lung infection and they gave us the CT scans on a disc. I loaded it up on slicer and you could see the one lung filled with fluid and stuff... so awesome
 
You must really hate your dad. :(
 
WTF? NL Has 17 million citizens, averages 3 people per house and had *TWO MILLION* requests from law enforcement for IP data, that's 50%!!!
 
lol, he thought the 3d stuff was pretty cool too
 
12:34 AM
Did MS fix initializer lists, I can't get them working in VS2013, anybody tried the newer version?
error C2536: cannot specify explicit initializer for arrays
 
@Prismatic Is the worst.
 
@sehe Morality: you don't fuck with the Dutch IP
Is it a /24 block btw?
 
it?
 
Hi
 
After spotting a bug in the code on one of their slides: @JamesMcNellis: "We have PowerPoint set to warning level 0" #accu2015 #DoubleAct
 
12:39 AM
@sehe saw that at lunch, lol'ed
 
more like -fpermissive
 
@Cicada Kinda unlikely to be that large contiguous block
(That's what she said)
 
hey bby u wanna c my large contiguous block
 
Volumetric rendering?
Sounds like integral to me
 
@Mikhail -fpessimist
 
12:41 AM
WTB> Free time
 
@Cicada only if u got da d skilz bby day so guud
 
no
 
@Cicada do u liek kreetol jell?
 
Also some npm packages require python as a dependency this world is fucked up
 
@Cinch Please don't make me work so hard at resisting the urge to kick you...
 
12:45 AM
@Cicada Node uses gyp to build native crap
 
reminds myself to say 'no' or no replying more
 
You should work on lucpm.
 
lol
Good name
 
donut steal
 
@CatPlusPlus brilliant
 
12:47 AM
the name gyp is triggering me
 
I wanted to make a generic package manager core in C# with SAT and stuff
So if you choose C# I could help :v
 
is it a reference to gypsies
 
Generate Your Projects
 
yeah I know
You're ruining my joke
 
Anytime
 
12:48 AM
@Rapptz or a misspell of jeep?
 
I actually only know about gyp because I read the blog post about the design of ninja
 
And here's the death blow
 
I wouldn't mind C# actually
lucpm.NET
 
already have a website and everything
this project basically makes itself
 
Important things done
 
12:50 AM
@Rapptz there's a pun in there somewhere
 
Builds itself
 
the last thing I worked on was the semver parser
 
So where's the website
 
lucpm.net
 
lucpm.net obv
 
12:51 AM
It would be nice if deque let you specify its block size
 
is Don't Starve Together any good?
 
wow it's available
impressive
 
it looks fun
 
I wanted to try it out but it didn't support local coop so we played something else
 
12:53 AM
@Prismatic I agree (especially after having used Microsoft's, which stores only a single item per block for anything but very small items.
 
There will be legends about MSVC deque 300 years from now
 
why don't they fix it though
aren't they aware of this
 
@JerryCoffin I was thinking of using deque because I want a vector-like thing without reference invalidation but that seems awful
 
> But last week, one of the cops who had done the threatening took the witness stand to corroborate Cascioli's account. Jeffrey Walker, who was arrested in an FBI corruption sting back in 2013, admitted that he and another officer had in fact leaned Cascioli over his balcony to elicit the password.
Wait. Waaaat. Cops lean drugs dealer over 18th floor balcony to get password (without warrant)
 
Probably because they're still scrambling to finish implementing C++11 features
And nobody uses deque
 
12:56 AM
I want to avoid using an if statement in this one part of my code... th eonly way I can think about getting around it is using a really nasty function pointer :/
 
Then... don't avoid an if statement?
 
@CatPlusPlus It's been that way basically forever (predates C++11 by quite a while). And no, given how badly it works for large items, of course nobody uses it.
 
@sehe wussy deal dealer ... if he lived in asian, he would probably get death penalty
 
The good thing about if statements is that they loop at most once
 
@JerryCoffin Well, yeah, I just remember STL or someone saying it's always lower priority than everything else
And now "everything else" is probably that
 
12:58 AM
@sehe ~justice~
which country?
 
@sehe Yet another example of the "war on drugs" doing much more harm than even the good that some people wish it would, not to mention any actual good.
 
@Cicada what if it's in a for look with only that if statement?
 
@chmod711telkitty go home. You're way too drunk
 
@sehe I remember this. Its like that scene from batman
WHERE ARE THE DRUGS
 
1:02 AM
anyone see the new batman v superman trailer
 
@Cicada USA (he said, hanging his head in shame).
 
It was a rethorical question, you know.
 
@Cicada No such possibility ever occurred to me. In fact, I still find it completely unbelievable.
 
Today is a beautiful day, only 126 on the pollution index.
 
Cicada is now LRiO?
Nice.
 
1:06 AM
Of course not
 
Never
 
@sehe is this how you fishing out all the alcoholics on this chat? Using that line on one person at a time?
but no, I am neither drunk nor needs to go home
 
@sehe But his avatar is so LRiO-like.
 
@chmod711telkitty right. keep editing
 
@Cicada Only 126? Seriously?
 
1:09 AM
On average it's around 160 and up to 270
The whole day. Every day.
 
now you mentioned, it's about 30 here - both PM 10 & PM 2.5
 
I want properties in C++
 
@Cicada Ouch. I think the last time I saw over 100 was during a forest fire. 38 here today, and that's pretty typical.
 
NYC is 22? Surprising.
 
1:14 AM
@Cicada so a lot of the times you are living in hazardous conditions
 
Millions of people do, for far longer than I did. And this is one of the cleaner cities.
 
@Cicada I guess I have nothing against the idea of having them, other than the fact that if it did, somebody might use them, and that would really suck.
 
I don't know, properties are pretty nice IMO
 
@Cicada Where do you live, inside of a volcano?
 
@CatPlusPlus hong kong
 
1:15 AM
 
@CatPlusPlus That would be nice actually (also yes HK)
 
@Cicada On the rare (I repeat, rare) occasion that you want them in C++, it's trivial to use a template that overloads operator= and operator T. I'll repeat for emphasis though: it's usually a bad idea (and almost all the rest of the time it's a terrible idea).
 
I know I know
 
I like em and don't care
Somehow Aptitude was fine with removing half of its dependencies and it still worked but try to reinstall it and suddenly there's 20 packages
Fucking Debian
 
Ineptitude
 
1:23 AM
@CatPlusPlus --no-install-recommends --no-upgrade?
 
I don't think they're recommends
 
@CatPlusPlus you care too much, just leaving those 20 packages there unless there are conflicts
 
I don't really care, it's just Another Day With Apt episode
Also now I wonder if I didn't break dependencies somewhere and apt/aptitude have too shitty depsolvers to notice
 
> As a random example, here is a discussion I had with Rasmus Lerdorf about five years ago about some UBs in the PHP interpreter. One might point out that it wasn’t a very mature exchange but I wasn’t even 40 yet at the time - Regehr
 
wtb revdep-rebuild
 
1:25 AM
> bugs.php.net
still makes me laugh
 
I thought you used docker
And... what was it called: "vagrant up"
 
I gave up on that for now
I need better tooling to build and keep images up-to-date
Vagrant is for development
Besides this is vCloud instance and there's literally no working API client
So I have to create machines manually :v
And the base image
 
I don't understand half of these things
 
> Kaspersky’s Internet Security app and Webroot’s free offering and its “complete” tool (an apt name, perhaps?) both failed to carry out these [certificate, red.] checks
 
1:39 AM
I am awful at pitching ideas
 
lame
 
@chmod711telkitty s/at.*// :-)
 
That took forever.
Now I gotta sleep.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I usually find my gloves get lost all too quickly and easily.
 
1:50 AM
awmegerd I think I can prevent vector references from being invalidated if I use reserve and micromanage stuff
 
Hey guys
@Rapptz Should I go for a PhD?
what do you think?
 
no
 
I might be able to get the scholarships
and I'm young so it might be a boon if I want to go cutting edge
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's hard-core. I can't even solve the 4x4 cube.
 
get a job
 
1:52 AM
@Rapptz I also want to ask what your PhD thesis was on and where.
Care to answer or too personal?
 
not gonna answer
 
A PhD is not like regular studies. You don't just go like "hey I'll do a PhD".
 
@Cinch it was a thesis on the subject of moe in anime
 
@Cicada I think it would be interesting to get into the research and innovation circles
Especially since quantum computing is coming along
 
weren't you shitposting yesterday about muh theory isn't as cool as muh practice?
 
1:54 AM
lel quantum computing
 
@Cicada My eyes are open for things I guess
(I still get whacked in the face though)
 
FTL travel is also "coming along"
lol
 
@Cicada that was ridiculous
@Rapptz I suppose. I won't deny that.
But I chose a bachelor's in a relatively stable concentration
 
camp
 
That's a funny name for alcohol
 
1:57 AM
I was thinking that perhaps I could try for something more advanced or something
Especially since I think I could get the money
 
You should totally do that.
 
@Cinch we are cynical bastards/bitches, so be careful when you say things. There is a good chance you would get laughed at if you don't really know what you are talking about ...
 
@StackedCrooked It's pretty similar to solving a 5x5x5 except it takes forever.
 
@chmod711telkitty ...I've been here for a year. I've been dumb enough to know that I am dumb and know what happens what happens when you are dumb because I am the dumb.
 
You've been here for a year? I noticed you two weeks ago
What a pleasant experience
 
1:59 AM
Whatever. I don't care how you guys treat me but I do respect you all so I continue to come here.
 
I'm not a guy do you still respect me
 
no
 

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