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1:00 AM
And it will save the community a lot of time @swalog :) +1 for effort, but really, we should try to be less of a personal helpdesk here. Teach a man how to fish etc. — sehe 9 secs ago
What a train wreck that question was
 
@YourFriend Here is example code.
 
@YourFriend who wants to know? (yes)
 
@Jefffrey also some emphasis on serial killers
eh
you need some degree of unknown to make a thing scary
hence aliens and ghosts
 
ouch. I'll go with the 'famous picture of engineers hugging on top of a burning turbine'
 
@Nooble that's not what I meant, actually I want to take input from user in int array form. I should be able to apply operation on each individual element. For Example if he wrote 4231, I should be able to acces 4 ,3 ,2 and 1 separately and do addition,multiplacaion etc
 
1:05 AM
Damn. That's scary (?) disturbing shit
 
> Identify and correct the errors in the following code
best question title award goes to... this guy
they made a comic about Vlad
6
 
> the_answer_is_dont
 
@Nooble I gotta go, talk to you later
 
wait this compiles?
void p(int i)
{
    int i = 5;
    cout << "i is " << i << endl;
}
 
@AlexM. with using namespace std, why wouldn't it?
the local variable is shadowing the parameter, but aside from that
 
1:09 AM
 main.cpp: In function 'void p(int)':
main.cpp:14:9: error: declaration of 'int i' shadows a parameter
     int i = 5;
it's an error on coliru
 
-werror?
i didnt think that was an error
 
-Wall -pedantic
does this turn warnings into errors
doesn't look like it to me
 
It's a redeclaration
Or rather redefinition
 
@Jefffrey None of these are scary.
Then again I've seen all of the top comments at least 5 times already.
 
So close to a point, and yet seems to miss it (purposely?)
 
1:15 AM
@sehe ?
 
the linked reddit
 
@sehe Don’t think so. But it’s going nowhere.
 
@Jefffrey here, much better listverse.com/2013/02/05/…
 
@LucDanton Ah. The only guy who uses Character: ` ’ U+2019 Name: RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK` as preferred :)
 
@sehe It is a symbol for the apostrophe as well!
 
1:25 AM
gcc considers this an error (no warnings turned into errors) and won't compile. In that case at least, it won't print anything. What decided to compile it for you? — Alex M. 11 mins ago
clang doesn't seem to compile it either
the plot thickens
 
@LucDanton That's why I added "as preferred" (Notes: this is the preferred character to use for apostrophe)
 
oo
in my defence I don’t have Unicode man pages in my brain
 
@LucDanton most people don't but... this is sehe :P
y do i do dis, im plonked -.-;
 
 
why would anyone plonk borgleader
 
1:27 AM
@AlexM. my puns
 
I always plonk him.
He's a bastard.
 
Damn. My screenshot utility is so much slower since my nvidia card died
 
-1: Wrong for the reason Alex stated. This is not shadowing: you're attempting to introduce a new variable into a scope that already has one with that name. — Lightness Races in Orbit 9 secs ago
 
When I’m not on Windows I characterize. Which isn’t the most convenient way, admittedly.
 
@sehe What model did you have?
 
1:29 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yay me having something to do with a C++ question for the first time
and I'm right!
 
@райтфолд What happened to agluj?
 
@Borgleader dunno. Old one. It's not fitted anymore so can't lspci. I liked it because fanless but still CUDA
 
Do any of you use a variable prefix for 'temp' variables? Like m_ for members, s_ for static, g_ for globals etc
 
@LucDanton Tim Pope's?
 
@Pris no
 
1:29 AM
also fuck you I deserved to post the right answer
 
@sehe might be able to get a pretty cheap replacement then.
 
> On Google App Engine team.
how did he get through interviews
lol
 
@Pris No. All variables are temporary.
 
@Borgleader oh yeah. But no need currently
 
1:30 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I think that team does JS
 
@LucDanton har har
 
Yup.
 
I call all my variables tmp0, tmp1, tmp2,
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't think Google C++ would be any good to begin with.
 
a, b, c, ...
 
Does programming research exist?
 
@Jefffrey yes...
@Rapptz true
 
Like is there a job where you just do programming research?
 
@Pris I’m semi-serious. Semi in that 'variables' is a bit of catch-all that includes immutable stuff, too. But if we stick to mutable ones, then yes, they’re all temps. So putting temp somewhere says nothing useful to the reader.
 
1:32 AM
Shit man.
Go and Java?
Sounds like torture.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit And like, how would that work?
 
What you really mean is Computer Science, specifically subsets of the discipline. There are tens or hundreds of thousands of CS researchers.
 
There are even whole departments that do research!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit they're usually called professors at unis
 
I usually take some kind of 'temp' prefix to mean that the value it holds isn't reliable
 
1:33 AM
Then why the hell are we still using C++ in 2015?
 
@AlexM. Only under certain circumstances.
 
You don't need titles to be a researcher
 
@Jefffrey you are
I'm using C#
 
@Jefffrey Low hanging fruit.
 
@AlexM. In the US it's pretty much everyone. Elsewhere it requires the equivalent of US "tenure" (though such schemes haven't technically existed in much of the ex-US world for several decades).
 
1:34 AM
@Pris That’s more concerning. I try to avoid reusing variables, that’s a compiler’s job.
 
Do you get paid a lot to do research?
 
No.
 
@Jefffrey Hahahahaha
 
Depends on where?
 
1:35 AM
@Jefffrey trying to dodge boring coding jobs eh?
ain't gonna happen
 
eh
 
I don't think it depends on anywhere.
 
Academic stuff pays well enough if you suffer through the motions of getting to PhD or whatever
 
Big lie.
 
@Jefffrey I got a close to normal engineering intern salary for research positions. It definitely depends on where
 
1:35 AM
I imagine a place like MSR pays well enough too
 
yeah full blown professors get paid well here
 
Not here.
Researchers don't get paid squat.
 
exactly how well in, say, the US?
 
PhD or not.
 
Commercial research probably pays more
 
1:36 AM
@Blob Research positions pay approx $32k/year here.
 
That's not too bad
 
Teaching doesn't pay well.
 
but really to go through 2509250 years of work to become a proper professor and then waste more time to add experience
 
@Rapptz oh great -.-
 
Being a professor doesn't pay well either.
@Jefffrey It is.
 
1:37 AM
32k/year isn't survivable in NY.
 
only to get... ~6-7 times the entry level pay for a programmer
it's kinda meh
might as well just become a programmer
 
Heh MSR requires PhD for researcher positions
 
Did you guys have any experience with remote jobs?
 
I'm too lazy to go to the office
 
@AlexM. What's the entry level pay for a programmer?
 
1:38 AM
in Romania?
 
yeah
 
@Jefffrey $56k/year here.
 
@Jefffrey 2000 RON/month
lots of families manage with less than that
 
@AlexM. 6-7 times the entry level pay for a programmer would be great!
@Rapptz lolwut
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit still less than what a programmer gets after as many years
 
1:39 AM
no fair
@AlexM. what....
no
you think programmer pay increases tenfold over a career? you're mad
 
Actually it might be around ~45k now.
 
@Rapptz entry-level?!?!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit weeeeeeeell
 
At a decent place? Yeah probably.
 
I might've exaggerated
 
1:40 AM
@Rapptz jesus
 
Programmers get paid really well here.
 
@Rapptz what city is that?
 
I knew that we got shafted in the UK but that's horrible
 
That's why everyone wants to join.
 
Programmers get paid squat here
You have to go into shitty management bollocks to go anywhere in life
 
1:41 AM
you make Romania sounds like programmer heaven
 
They get paid €18k, and not even that here
 
I've gotta say, it's not a huge surprise that the US leads technology innovation. You look after your talent properly.
 
Pretty sure entry level (for a college grad) in silicon valley is over $100K.
 
wat
 
The technology innovation is in California where they pay >$100k.
 
1:41 AM
wat
 
@JerryCoffin That's probably to go with the ridiculous cost of living there.
 
@JerryCoffin that's... insane
 
where's my plane ticket
 
@JerryCoffin its ~$80k-$100k I think
 
@JerryCoffin but the average property price there is $1.5million
 
1:42 AM
But living expenses there are far higher. Rent is usually $2500ish a month etc
 
@Jefffrey whoah there cowboy
you'll still only get the usual amount of money to go crazy with because the expenses are a lot higher there
 
pizza's here yay
@Rapptz :(
 
you know what would be great?
stay in Romania
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yes--living on ~$50K would be quite difficult. I'm not sure you could do it without some room-mates.
 
1:44 AM
work remotely w/ Silicon Valley for >$100k
 
I think Mysticial says you need at least 85k to live there.
 
user3010322
@JerryCoffin I can actually make do n then!
 
user3010322
do with that*
 
People who did uni with me, those who wanted to get big in IT, they went the U.S. Those who wanted to stay in finance related field went to the U.K. & Hong Kong
 
user3010322
But I'm a single, young person who doesn't need to actually have a good diet.
 
1:44 AM
@AlexM. You'd prob end up paying income tax in both countries
 
with $100k you can buy 19806 pizzas here
 
This is not helpful: "Unhandled exception at 0x77c5e3be in facebook-id.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x7dfa7263."
 
that's it?
 
@AlexM. each time you buy pizza, you're losing 1/19806's of 100k
stop eating pizza
 
lol
 
1:46 AM
food here is cheap, rental/property price is steep
 
is that a terrible joke?
 
@edition Time to use the debugger. Have fun.
 
What size of pizza anyway?
 
@ThePhD Embrace the fat
 
@edition It is helpful: Facebook is shite.
 
1:47 AM
@Rapptz the right number is 19806.2
@Rapptz usually 31cm
lol
 
radius, diameter, or circumference?
 
12.2 inches for you Americans
 
This makes a lot of sense. Thanks! — the_answer_is_dont 3 mins ago
a quote from the standard makes more sense than a simple explanation
/cc @LightnessRacesinOrbit
 
I'm so hungry
all this pizza talk didn't help
 
I found it curious mainly because the guy seems completely clueless
> When I try to build it in sublime text
@Rapptz maybe I can help, did you see my pizza from yesterday?
 
1:49 AM
@AlexM. Theres a plugin in ST for compiling C++ code
by default it calls g++ (IIRC)
 
not a plug-in
just a build system
you can define it to do whatever you want
 
well you can make your own so i call that a plugin
 
plugins are python code!
 
@JerryCoffin Would a software developer get paid less in say, Seattle than in the valley?
 
seattle? valve :D
 
1:50 AM
and microsoft
 
What I imagine when LRIO gets mad at someone
2
 
@Blob boeing, microsoft & amazon
 
@chmod711telkitty I'm not sure, but probably--pretty sure costs are lower in Seattle anyway.
 
@Blob Apparently its a nice place to work at
 
@JerryCoffin that's what I mean, living cost is cheaper, but there are quite a few tech companies there
 
1:51 AM
@Borgleader doesn't work
 
Has anyone in the Lounge ever actually measured their pizza? Who had a vernier or spanned-micrometer and has the mental acuity to use it after sixteen pints?
 
micrometers
that takes me back
 
@Borgleader I'd be scared, depending on what I'd be working on
read about the security gaben needs?
lol
the guys said they even killed a bunch of people
 
@AlexM. ?
 
1:52 AM
@AlexM. I don't buy it.
 
@AlexM. bullshit
 
Also Nintendo is in Redmond too.
 
@Rapptz I don't either, but I'm sure a lot of people would want to kill gabe newell over steam stuff
 
what? that's stupid
people can't be that stupid
 
@Blob oh... they can
 
1:53 AM
The guy has invited people to tour Valve Corp. all the time.
 
@Pris We should have the fuckers lasered on receipt and refuse to pay unless the average diameter is as advertised.
 
From 4chan and what not.
 
@Borgleader for some reason the video itself doesn't load for me even there :\
wtf
 
@MartinJames or you could just get a square pizza
 
1:56 AM
@Pris The bastards would deliver a rectangular or trapezoidal pizza so it was too difficult to measure.
 
don't buy pizza at all
pizza is yucky
 
fractal pizza
 
cheese is yucky
 
@Blob What? Not an option.
 
@Blob jesus christ what did you say
oh my god
actually I can't
 
1:56 AM
@chmod711telkitty Right--it wouldn't surprise me if it works out to higher effective earnings. OTOH, you have to live with rain 150+ days per year...
 
there's no other way, plonk.
 
Eat cheese
 
@CatPlusPlus I just have, on toast with bacon.
 
@JerryCoffin and colder weather ... but you would be indoors working 9-5(+/-1) 250 days a year
 
@Borgleader lol @ the $2.5 key
 
1:58 AM
OK, I goto bed now. Drunk.
 
@MartinJames never knew being drunk prevents you from chatting here :p
 
Probably an oldie for most of you guys.
still hilarious :D
 

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