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3:00 AM
But all these witch hunts are really making me doubt my future
 
PENIS IS NOT A JOKE
 
may we post rape faces? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
where lies the line?
 
-------------- here
 
@GregorMcGregor that's 14 lines, which one of them
 
So, if this is a professional chat, where are our paychecks? Luc has been getting them to feed his MMO addiction and the rest of us have been waiting for our contracts for years.
 
3:01 AM
------------------- professional and constructive discussion below this line only -------------------
 
@GregorMcGregor Liar! That line is entirely truthful. It didn't lie at all.
 
Oh please shut up with the where is my free speech line drawn.
 
@GregorMcGregor safe space
 
mentions of free speech: 0
 
@CaptainGiraffe ask your government
 
3:01 AM
good job
 
@BoltClock personally, I believe personal attacks are not acceptable
 
@LucDanton Is this the new anti supression forum?
 
SUSPEND THIS!!
 
@BoltClock but if someone takes offense to someone else's joke or personal opinion, that's on them
then there's gore, spam, and some other unwanted discourse (sexual harassment, etc)
 
3:04 AM
@CaptainGiraffe At least IMO, this is not (and never really has been) about free speech. It's about SO providing enough guidance that a person who wants to follow the rules can, without constant doubt about whether anything and everything said will be taken out of context, and condemned as "obviously inappropriate", regardless of what it actually says. Treating each other with respect is fine and dandy--but what they're complaining about here neither stated nor implied any disrespect toward anybody.
 
Choose you battles people.
 
Time to start the Societal Preservation Program for the Lounge and form Vault-Tec.
 
but outside of that I don't believe people should flag or get banned because someone found an opinion or joke offensive
 
I hope the voting on this question lets our new moderators know that most of us have faith in them and hope they keep at it :) — sevenseacat 52 secs ago
 
StackOverflow Dogma. There are mods... And there is god, king and country.
 
3:05 AM
Praise the mod
 
@JerryCoffin I agree with your sentiment. Is there a precedent?
 
> note: '! is_void_v<decltype (...fucking huge expression...)>' evaluated to false
> note: 'std::experimental::fundamentals_v1::is_void_v<int>' evaluated to false
no consistency
 
high expectations
 
> If people misunderstand the message because it depends on context, that's your fault, not theirs.
 
only works on 1 side
 
3:06 AM
also it looks like my complementary requirements are non-complementary; which is tricky as one is a straight negation of the other
 
This is like, actively harmful view to hold
 
user406009
@orlp Yes. I agree with your post. Some of the humor here is completely incompatible with professionalism.
 
> Let's be clear: chat is bound to our Be Nice policy. What I read this afternoon goes far beyond the bounds of acceptable behavior. That some moderators (and a former moderator) chose to step in to mediate was courageous and welcome. They did a fine job considering the hostile environment they were working in.
Now seriously
 
@orlp The theory is that, in general, that shouldn't happen--a flag has to be confirmed by a number of other people before it takes any effect (unless the person who confirms is a mod). Therefore, suspension only happens when/if multiple agree that it's offensive. Problem is that what they see is taken completely out of context, and few are ambitious enough to bother clicking the link so they see the context.
 
How are people so out of touch with reality
 
3:07 AM
We're the ones who are out of touch with reality Jefffrey
don't you see
now sleep
 
@JerryCoffin flags can not be handled on a network basis
also, can @CatPlusPlus and @GregorMcGregor please stop throwing oil on the fire
 
> That some moderators (and a former moderator) chose to step in to mediate was courageous and welcome. They did a fine job considering the hostile environment they were working in.
 
user406009
@BoltClock You should have seen the guy in the JavaScript room who named himself CodePen Is Better. (Hint: Imagine it without the spaces)
 
TIL lounge is literally fukushima
 
user406009
(Like when you ping someone)
 
3:08 AM
spouting anti-pc extremism at every opportunity doesn't help
 
@orlp SUSPEND THIS!!!
 
"I've heard from Stack Overflow moderators who want nothing to do with that room. It's got a rotten reputation among many hardened chat users. As long as I've been working as a Community Manager, the Lounge has been a by word of everything wrong with chat moderation. We've known about this problem and we haven't done what's needed to put out the fire. "
 
@Lalaland incredible.
 
I no longer car
 
@GregorMcGregor fuk u
 
3:08 AM
> anti-pc extremism
 
I admire your viewpoint, but you have to be reasonable
 
Why is it called to 86 something? I understand it to mean to discontinue
 
Car free zone
 
"Hardened chat users" AHAHAHAHAH
 
@BoltClock There was also this very fun guy who went by the name "Mai Long Dong". gedit???
 
3:09 AM
So, vidya games or what
 
a hardened fun guy
 
I could work
But
 
@CatPlusPlus pick up gw2 again!
 
@GregorMcGregor That's very xenophobic of you to make jokes like that
 
Ehh, don't really feel like it
 
3:09 AM
That flag
 
fair enough, waiting for Rapptz to join in the fun or what
 
rapetz has gw2?
 
get csgo and queue up with me
 
noep
 
There is a place that is safe for the kind of unprofessional cynical shock-and-awe offensive content that you speak of... reddit. — Tiny Giant 18 secs ago
 
3:12 AM
Ahhhhh
 
Who's good at Verilog
 
@VermillionAzure I dunno, but the Lounge is on fire.
 
sorry I only use Boost.Log or spdlog
 
I joined a guild and everything but I'm not v good at integrating with people I don't already know
 
3:12 AM
What is with this guy's obsession with reddit
 
grab some popcorn
 
Which is weird I know
 
eh same
 
I really have no idea how I ever meet new people
 
@CatPlusPlus yeah I play with my friends most of the time
 
3:13 AM
@GregorMcGregor That guy seriously needs to go take a chill pill
 
user406009
@Rapptz Just wait until he finds out about 4chan.
 
It might be that they meet me rather than vice versa
 
Where can I ask for Verilog...
 
@GregorMcGregor Haven't you heard? They started banning and er, "quarantining" subs for shock content :O
 
@CatPlusPlus I really wanted to do Triple Trouble so I started playing with GW2OpenCommunity (then GW2Community) and I’ve stuck with them ever since, it’s nice
 
3:13 AM
reddit is a cesspool
 
@BoltClock that's quite tumblrcore
 
@BoltClock I am pretty sure /r/prettyfemalecorpses is still there
 
WvW ultimately was kinda meh
 
@ScottW I honestly didn’t laugh.
 
I guess we could make a Lounge guild and do some dungeons together sometimes
 
3:14 AM
@CatPlusPlus yeah and now it’s dead
@CatPlusPlus dungeons are also dead
 
@VermillionAzure dunno
 
I never did any :(
 
Guys, we should form a corporation in EVE Online and take over New Eden.
 
user406009
@CatPlusPlus We should call it the Kyrostat guild.
 
World bosses are kinda clusterfucky and I never know what's happening there
 
3:15 AM
@ScottW dating is overrated
 
@ElimGarak n o
 
@CatPlusPlus bummer… it’s actually still fine to do it with friends, it’s just that there’s nobody in LFG because it gives poor gold
 
god that tire fire shitpost is terrible
 
Hence guild thing
I wouldn't use LFG ever anyway
 
why'd I read this
 
3:15 AM
@ElimGarak I don't want to go into accounting though
 
What's wrong with Excel Online
 
@CatPlusPlus I’m really fond of the HoT big battles (aka 'meta events'), there’s Silverwastes like that in the base content
 
user406009
@ElimGarak Gameplay
 
@Rapptz The metaphor is awful
 
Is HoT out already?
I haven't been paying attention
 
3:16 AM
@Lalaland There is gameplay in EVE Online?
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
yeah, it’s been a little bit over a month
 
@jaggedSpire wait what
 
@GregorMcGregor Really, I don't know when it was supposed to come out :v
 
@ScottW SO is not really worth it. All I care are the Loungers. And the core will persist on IRC whatever these schmucks decide to do with the Lounge.
 
3:17 AM
@CatPlusPlus Luc came all over the place
 
well at least I’m glad to learn I wasn’t that obnoxious about it
 
@VermillionAzure drama on meta
 
When did this happen?
Also I really need that Verilog help
I've been stuck on this for hours
 
@ElimGarak Consists of sometimes pressing F1 and being yelled at
 
@VermillionAzure started around...five-ish hours ago?
 
3:17 AM
@LucDanton I don't hate you for putting it under my nose at all
 
I dunno, I was at work then
 
What's HoT again?
 
Money grind in EVE is so boring
 
lol, Nooble posted this?
 
@CatPlusPlus I have a summary
 
3:18 AM
Also sec status grind
 
I logged in and the Lounge was going blammo
 
Seriously, Jefery, GOOGLE ACRONYMS.
 
Hunting idle freighters in highsec was fun
But everything else needed to do that wasn't
 
@GregorMcGregor but I reeeaally have to praise/make fun of anet whenever they do a thing
 
I have a 16-bit single cycle MIPS implementation
 
3:19 AM
Some of the best things that happened in EVE were faciliated via chat only and a few clicks. :'
 
My branch instruction executes 1 cycle late and then actually branches from the next instruction's address
What might cause it?
There is a separate module used to handle the PC and it was provided to us
 
Your pipeline sucks
 
Not sure I have the patience to go through them all
Sorry
 
I don't actually know how Verilog works
 
But... always @(posedge clock) works for another implementation I looked at on GitHub
 
3:21 AM
...did the C++ Lounge just completely change topics to EVE Online and Verilog?
 
@ScottW If your friend is on the question is here: stackoverflow.com/questions/34034199/…
@ScottW What do you mean by delay slot?
 
@Jefery Well, the land of ignorance for you, then <3
(I still love you kinda)
 
user406009
@jaggedSpire I think everyone got tired of the free speech vs professionalism discussion.
 
@ScottW But it's not pipelined
It's single-cycle
It's supposed to branch immediately
 
@Lalaland There's nothing left to say
 
3:22 AM
@ElimGarak Fuck you then <3
 
That's the problem
 
@ElimGarak (I fucking hate you)
 
thanks, bby, means a lot
 
@Lalaland classic red panda gif to celebrate
 
This is really funny though
I hope the voting on this question lets our new moderators know that most of us have faith in them and hope they keep at it :) — sevenseacat 18 mins ago
 
3:23 AM
all hail to the hypnomod
 
There's no problem with blindly trusting mods because we blindly trust mods
 
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A: Request for community attention on a moderator's behavior

sehe NOTICE I'm waiting for mods to respond to my repeated requests for a talk. Ahead of time I'd like to deposit that I think¹ this user was actually the guy who kicked up the whole thing: http://stackoverflow.com/users/3271844/mafagafogigante He's a chat user since 29th. I had liter...

 
Anyway, GW2
 
Needed to get that off my chest. I'm going to hit the sack now.
I can get roughly 2 hours of sleep now.
 
I think we don't have to even be on the same home servers for guild thing to work
 
3:24 AM
This whole ordeal sucks
 
aw sehe <3
 
@CatPlusPlus oh yeah the world only matters for wvw
 
@sehe sleep as well as you can
 
makes sense right?
 
@ScottW I didn't laugh. I thought it was witty. But predictable. It's the brand reversal I like in Jerry's jokes. They're frequently much more funny (and also less politically loaded apparently)
 
3:26 AM
@LucDanton It does!
 
@sehe +1, well said
not antagonistic
 
It's just a braindump. Of the few facts I know
 
@nick still got downvoted
 
I think I’m seeing a context where GCC fills in an SFINAE-blank with void, hence why I have no overload on is_void_v<…> a viable candidate. Weird and unusual.
 
guys did you hear
 
3:27 AM
If this isn't offensive, could I have your mother's email so I can forward the transcript along with a note that you didn't find anything bothersome? — Emrakul 18 secs ago
lol
 
I'm still perplexed why sehe isn't a site-wide moderator.
 
@orlp: Yes. This is a good illustration of what I mean. The first quote taken out of context is clearly flawed. But I wrote the entire post and included the qualifying sentence beforehand. I hope that as a reader you will take both sentences together and try to make sense of them. I would not have that luxury if I'd posted this in chat, rather than as an answer. — Jon Ericson ♦ 9 mins ago
 
mark zuckerberg is going to donate $45,000,000,000 to kony 2012
 
this comment is so confusing
 
@GregorMcGregor either it was a really weak bait or a really weak 'ohshit gta make an excuse'
 
user406009
3:28 AM
@orlp So, I guess the 1 like = $1 people were sorta right for once?
 
the former no doubt
 
> note: '<expression error>' evaluated to false
 
@GregorMcGregor haters gonna hate
 
ahahahaha
This modding situation is just so rich
 
okay it’s actually likely very poor error-reporting
 
3:29 AM
umm.. still a bit wild in this chat room eh?
 
@Jefery It is a conversation inherently about sex which has no place in a professional programming chatroom. — Tiny Giant 12 secs ago
 
@Nathan Still looking up for the Drop Bears
 
never gets old
 
only cause someone thought it was a good idea to stir the shit pot by posting on meta
 
@Nathan not really
 
user406009
3:30 AM
@GregorMcGregor Well, I mean it all comes down to the purpose of the Lounge and SO chat in general.
 
@Rapptz hey it's entertaining
 
user406009
In work environments, PC culture is actually useful.
 
user406009
When you need to get shit done, it's an ok way of removing conflict.
 
diplomacy and common sense are
PC is bullshit
 
3:31 AM
sigh... i was originally gonna ask some c++ related questions like a normal boring person..
 
@Nathan :\
 
but apparently earlier today this chat room went wild
 
@Lalaland Not when applied mindlessly and mechanically
 
@jaggedSpire just kidding :)
 
@Nathan wild as in wildfire. OOC, what was/were your question(s)?
 
user406009
3:32 AM
It seems like SO as a community is going to need to come to a decision. Are chat rooms allowed to be off topic?
 
Just like you can't solve social issues with technology, you can't solve them with cookie-cutter silencing policies
 
@Rapptz if it was for anything else, I would've been in favor of posting it on meta. but in this situation, it doesn't matter how "out of context" certain quotes are. Soon as people see the word "rape" it's game over
 
@Lalaland Most forums have an off-topic site anyways. They might disallow it though
 
Can you stop with the rape bullshit
 
I still have no idea what the fuck this situation is all about
 
3:33 AM
@Rapptz delete this before you get scapegoated
 
user406009
Did anyone ever find the rape quote?
 
@jaggedSpire my question is more about dynamic arrays.. without using vectors. And I mean wild as in crazy.
 
It's made up bullshit
 
@Rapptz me?
 
@nick SOMEONE MADE RAPE JOKES AND A NEW MOD CAME IN AND MUTED THE ROOM FOR 2 MINUTES and now SO is saying
 
3:33 AM
@nick grapefruit
 
@Nathan Why?
 
yeah I don't get this "rape" context comes from, it's ridiculous.
 
@Nathan ah, but it's on fire too. :P
 
like a tire
 
@VermillionAzure did someone?
 
3:34 AM
@Nathan what's the question?
 
a tire fire
 
Step 1: demonize the opponent
 
@Jefery It is a conversation inherently about sex which has no place in a professional programming chatroom. — Tiny Giant 4 mins ago
 
Otherwise they won't survive SIGHUP
 
@Rapptz I think it was surmised from the message quoted in the meta post. "women" "fuck bags" and all
 
3:34 AM
I haven't eaten all day
 
makes sense
 
need food
 
@Nathan Exercise or do you expect to improve?
 
@BoltClock Can I just ask a question?
 
@BoltClock No, that's about something else
 
3:34 AM
@CatPlusPlus Oh yeah my mistake. Saw another comment on that
 
user406009
@BoltClock Wasn't that quote actually strongly pro-women?
 
color me confused then
@Lalaland yeah my bad
 
@VermillionAzure Lounge<Drama,Verilog>
 
@BoltClock WOW
 
@VermillionAzure You can ask another one following that, if you'd like
 
3:35 AM
So being blue doesn't fundamentally inhibit your ability to admit mistakes
 
The truth is, if the Lounge desires to persist in its current format, it has to play by the house's rules, no matter how bullshit they are. There is an alternative, though...
 
Well I never
 
@BoltClock Why did Madara decide to throw down the hammer anyways?
 
He got Mad
 
3:35 AM
I mean... It's not like we haven't made worse jokes before
 
@ElimGarak I’ve mentioned several times how I don’t like the current situation actually
 
user406009
@CatPlusPlus We are all human.
 
Maybe he's knew to the lounge idk
 
@CatPlusPlus On the contrary, being blue makes you realize everything you've ever done has been a mistake
4
 
3:36 AM
@BoltClock You are the best mod
 
@BoltClock But we like you m8
 
now ban the others
 
@GregorMcGregor delete pls before you get burned on a stake
 
@jaggedSpire my question is more like.. can a pointer that has allocated an array new integers add that amount of allocated memory to a static array? However, I am not really used to vectors so much.
 
> knew
 
3:37 AM
yes
I am taking liberties with spelling
suspend me
 
@Nathan no, there is some leniency with reallocate, but no.
 
@CaptainGiraffe hmm ok then
@CaptainGiraffe I guess i should read up on vectors then.
 
@Nathan A static array is also in a whole different area in you program.
 
Cover up of the century, a new guy posted a single rape joke
 
3:39 AM
Call the press
 
Can we please just get over this like big boys?
 
We have another Watergate here
 
I don't want this room to get shut down anyways
 
user406009
@Nathan If you have a code sample, we might be able to provide more detailed help.
 
@ScottW Where else to go?
 
3:39 AM
@VermillionAzure but we're not answering your verilog questions
 
if this room closes you lose like half the C++ community or something
 
@Lalaland I may, if the need arises. Ill let you know
 
@ScottW I'm not leaving home without shot fired.
 
user406009
@GregorMcGregor Yeah, but we are the back of the herd here.
 
@GregorMcGregor don’t give them more incentive
 
user406009
3:40 AM
Dragging everything down.
 
@Lalaland I always try to solve my programs myself first. :P
 
meh
But Lounge has a nice IRC already
freenode?
It's ugly
 
#disgusted
 
@ScottW Oh, get over yourself.
 
and we were doing so well, too
 
3:42 AM
I'm pretty big; it'd be pretty hard to get over me
 
starwhore
 
Anyway, this is boring
 
@Nick I'll bet. I can only see your face in your profile pic
 
Let's learn Verilog with Cinch
2
 
you must be huge
 
3:43 AM
I've been playing Rise of Nations and waiting for the next drama, because I suck at sleeping.
 
I'm a huge nerd
Oh no I'm being disrespectful towards myself again
 
@ElimGarak practice makes perfact and also insomnia
 
sendpacket_abort
^C User interrupt...
sendpacket_abort
^C User interrupt...
sendpacket_abort
^C User interrupt...
sendpacket_abort
^C User interrupt...
thanks tcpreplay
 
xd Well, I've finally forced VS2015.1 to properly install with Clang 3.7
 
3:44 AM
There's a key shortcut for SIGQUIT
Which should work if SIGINT is masked/intercepted
 
you have to press ^C again before the packet is sent
 
kout << paket
 
Ctrl+\ from what I see
 
question!
 
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3:45 AM
no!
 
Answer
Good talking, rep all around
 
@ElimGarak did you need power tools or just a big hammer?
 
@CatPlusPlus neat, thanks!
 
@TinyGiant I never said I agree. I don't personally mind that content. "Sex" is not a bad word in any way. There's nothing "disgusting" about it either, so your only point for wanting Jerry's message deleted is that it's off topic. Hello? All chatrooms on SO are off topics sometimes, because believe it or not isn't populated by people whose only purpose in live is talking about programming 24/7. And everybody knows that, previous mods included and is generally well tolerated to the point that even mods come in and make jokes that have nothing to do with programming. — Jefery 1 min ago
 
3:46 AM
@ScottW so what
is your friend gonna help or what
 
you cant use a type qualifier on a non-member function can you?
 
I felt like I wanted to write a separate Meta thread about that message unjustly being deleted.
 
Some terminal emulators can send other signals from context menu/whatever, too, I think
 
I've actually realized I don't think I care that much anymore.
 
@Jefery still plugging away at this, eh?
 
3:47 AM
@Shog9 ikr
 
Wait
It's fucking 4:48am????
wat
 
@Jefery have ~fun~ tomorrow today
 
Not tomorrow
@jaggedSpire The day after
The 3rd
 
Fun no longer exists
 
3:49 AM
@CatPlusPlus <3
 
@CatPlusPlus Stack Overflow has always hated fun anyway. Good riddance
 
rip
Fun xx-2015, brutally murdered, will remain in our hearts forever
 
do not bring flowers
 
I'd find an ASCII-art tombstone but that's way too much effort for this joke
Because it's dead
 
ugh
no verilog help
whyyyyyy
 
user406009
3:54 AM
Ok. I think I tracked down the "rape" joke.
 
user406009
Sehe: I don&#39;t know where you came from, and your forced entry was a bit iffy, but you&#39;re gaining points
 
user406009
Some else: @sehe When she likes the rape in the end.
 
user406009
The second thing's post id is 27182384
 
1 hour ago, by sehe
That's the guy. I think. We can't be sure until we see some evidence (or someone remembers)
 
3:55 AM
oh god
 
@sehe didn’t occur to me to point it out then, but yeah I remember
 
I started the snowball with freebleeding
 
#disgusting
 
I was there too and wasn't particularly shocked
 
user406009
I think the sorta kinda was sehe talking about the odds of that person being Cicada.
 
3:56 AM
Had I known I would've flagged it with the power of a thousand reddits
 
Time to automate some more things in FortressCraft
 
@VermillionAzure there are not a lot of verilog people on SO, and I'd be surprised if there were any in this room regularly.
 
@Shog9 Unfortunately
Where can I find some?
 
You know who knows Verilog? Jerry
 
@Jerry we need your help
 
3:57 AM
It is homework but I think I'm decently far along
 
wait he's dead
 
And I'm asking more why instead of what
 
@VermillionAzure possibly on the EE SE, since it's more an EE thing
 
Welp
chat releasted
 
and yep there are verilog questions
 
3:59 AM
@Shog9 Is it because they are politically correct or because this is a C++ room
 
user406009
@CatPlusPlus What's the primary difference between FortressCraft and Minecraft?
 
user406009
Last time I looked at the let's plays they looked quite similar.
 
You build a fortress instead of a mine obviously
 
@Lalaland One's not a complete ripoff?
 
fuck you scott
 

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