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2:00 AM
@GregorMcGregor Quote from where?
 
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A: How can I make this variadic template code shorter using features from C++14 and C++1z?

Jonathan WakelyWe recently added std::disjunction to the C++1z draft, which can be used for is_one_of (and it stops instantiating as soon as it finds a match, see the link for more details): template <typename F, typename... T> using is_one_of = std::disjunction<is_same<F, T>...>; This is already implement...

 
I know we have the most instances of fuck, but how many messages total do we have compared to other rooms? /cc @Mysticial
 
@Jefery starboard meta post
Sometimes, I'm not sure some Loungers have a good idea of what "professionalism" actually is... — Emrakul 31 secs ago
I have literally no clue
 
My star board is like 3 messages :C, got it though
 
@LucDanton Don't give the baddies any more fuel on why the lounge should be removed! We can't be seen discussing C++. Or concepts. Or what not. Keep a low profile, or we might get deleted
 
2:02 AM
@Borgleader I have the most chat messages and am only like #4(?) for fucks. pretty sure the top 3 are lounge users.
not fueling the fire.
but I was curious and did look this up not too long ago
 
@Elim our extremely offensive and unprofessional comments got removed
 
@Nooble Wait
 
Yeah?
 
You stole Bartek's meta post?
 
Kinda sorta.
 
2:04 AM
@Jefery and is now suffering for it yes
 
Well, I don't feel the consequences just yet.
 
@GregorMcGregor Of course they did, it's a police state
 
I guess that means we’re sticking to MPL-style functions. Really a mixed message what with the aliases_t and variables_v cc @Rapptz
 
If I get suspended or something, I'll be back under Not_Nooble
 
> Other chatrooms don't get flagged for conversations about women "liking rape"
Ok I was on the fence until the rape thing. Shut it down. Jeez. — Clive 52 secs ago
whattttttttt
 
2:05 AM
ironically right now I thought I could dispense with a function and just have an alias but there’s one place where I really need the function
 
god you guys are so fucking stupid sometimes
why would you post this shit on meta
 
Alright so I may just be responsible for the looming threat of the demise of the lounge.
 
did you really think to yourself you're going to make the issue better?
I don't understand
 
Maybe :c
 
2:06 AM
what could possibly go wrong
 
I blame Cat.
 
fucking dumb hth
 
YEAH CAT
 
nothing of value etc.
 
@Nooble I blame you.
 
2:06 AM
I downvoted your dumb question too
 
Unreasonable people? on meta???
 
meta has the biggest mod bias ever
you're not going to get them to budge on anything that a mod does
 
you don't say
 
@Rapptz It wasn't really a question, and I don't think it's particularly "dumb".
 
What was that rape thing anyway
 
2:07 AM
oh my god but the Q&A format
 
well at least our new ~~mods~~ got their rite of passage I guess
 
Of course nobody links anything
 
that'd be too convenient
 
Granted, it may have been stupid to post a question on such a site filled with "unreasonable" people, but the question itself wasn't dumb.
 
the action is dumb
 
2:08 AM
well yes but you're assuming objectivity and that's laughable at best
 
Nothing good was going to come of posting this on meta.
 
there was no benefit to posting it on meta outside of getting people to dislike us even more than they do now
 
and particularly your last paragraph is going to get you shredded
@Rapptz I count that as a pro though
should I chime in and mention Islam.SE for giggles
 
we had this entire thing behind us :v
 
you are the worst
 
2:09 AM
@Rapptz lol u so mad
 
I honestly am way too booty bothered about this
 
Oh, really? Here's "rape" in the PHP room.... So tell me, where do you draw the line? We could scour the transcript of every room for stuff that falls through the cracks of flagging. — Elim Garak 26 secs ago
 
booty bothered?
 
butthurt
 
I love to be busy, then I miss all the sh!t :p
 
2:11 AM
ah
 
@CatPlusPlus I would sincerely hope that a comment such as that would have been deleted, so it wouldn't be in a transcript to link to. — Servy 31 secs ago
convenient
 
Somehow, everything is the Lounge's fault.
 
g2g, laterz
 
This "liking rape" allegation - is it more than an urban myth? If that thing is literally true, and not a lone act of provocation or blown way out of proportion, then I'll personally vouch for deletion of the room. — sehe 13 secs ago
 
bb
 
2:11 AM
I don't remember anyone writing stuff like that. It's just a terrible, unsubstantiated lie.
 
No they are telling the truth
 
Sigh.
 
I saw the flag earlier today
 
Well it was flagged and removed so who cares
 
the pirate got banned for it
 
2:12 AM
Also MAKE THE DAMN DELETED MESSAGES AVAILABLE FFS
@Borgleader No, it was another
 
Use stargazer you jefery
 
It was from some unknown user I don't even remember
 
does identity<alias<X>> 'defer' an alias?
not really applicable here though
 
@Nooble You wanted a verb to your name. to nooble: post shit on meta that gets us in even more trouble than we were already in.
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there
 
thanks
 
2:15 AM
I hope we don't get smurfs back here for shitstorm round 2.
 
I was about to go to bed
I guess I'll stay up a little bit more
 
I'll be there to handle things
 
Ell
See you guys in IRC I guess
 
tch.
 
2:18 AM
@Ell you mean loungechat
oh wait
 
so... supper's ready, but I wanna make sure: y'all realize that bringing this to meta probably isn't gonna end up looking particularly shiny, right?
 
@Shog9 My mistake, no one elses.
 
12 mins ago, by Borgleader
Nothing good was going to come of posting this on meta.
 
If I was you, I'd just back off for a bit. Let it cool down.
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just sayin'.
Anyway, turkey sammich time
 
@BradLarson Can we have a private chat? (Or public for that matter) — sehe 6 mins ago
apparently everyone's too busy
 
2:22 AM
@Shog9 Enjoy
 
It's 3:22 am here though. I'll be here tomorrow too
 
thnx
 
@Shog9 Posting it to the meta is the dumbest thing ever and I doubt anyone here wanted it.
 
"Professional chat room". Do they actually believe that these are "professional chat rooms"?
 
didn’t you get your paycheck?
 
2:23 AM
:(
 
@Shog9 shag9 please protect us
 
...Right. To answer the question posed in this answer (ironically enough), enough is enough. I trust the mods' judgment enough in this scenario to do what's best for the site on this one. If this means that this chatroom is nuked from orbit, I'll supply the ICBMs if need be. — Makoto 33 secs ago
Who the fuck is even this guy?
 
It's Makoto
From the same manga as Madara isn't it
ah, no
 
I have to go
Don't do anything dumb.
 
If you want to nuke the Lounge, you need to nuke every other hypocritical chat room on SO. I've been going through their transcripts for the moderator "trigger words", all are the same. And I'm pretty sure nobody uses the word "rape" seriously, at worst it is a bad joke.
 
2:26 AM
@Rapptz lol
 
@CatPlusPlus: I'll admit: the way you're arguing about this doesn't do your side any favors. I've looked at the evidence and I'm inclined to agree with much of what has transpired on the part of the mods. — Makoto 1 min ago
There it is again
~~~the way you're arguing~~~~ to hell with whatever you're saying
 
Cat you lack professionalism
 
purrfessional
 
This is so stupid
 
I've looked at the evidence, of which half is inaccessible, and mods seem like cool dudes
Everything checks out
 
2:29 AM
lol
 
Also you're mean and unprofessional~
 
I'm still waiting for the mod who accused me to pick up the phone... :(
 
That'd require more effort than just waving your authority wand
 
The way we are pictured on Meta is somehow worse than I remembered
We are like literally Hitler now
 
@sehe It's obvious you're a key figure in the Lounge's rape culture.
 
2:31 AM
ugggh it's like talking to a wall
A very annoying wall
 
@ElimGarak :(
 
give up
 
@CatPlusPlus How has this situation proven that we need more transparency? There's been plenty of transparency by the mods here to show that there was more than enough inappropriate behavior to warrant all of the actions that they've taken, and they've been very open about exactly what they've done and why. Again, if you want to participate in chat rooms that never delete anything, ever, there's a few million of them out there for you to use. The SE chat isn't The Wild West. Inappropriate content will be removed. If that isn't what you want, then why are you here? — Servy 1 min ago
It's like nothing that has been said was actually understood
It's literally the same message of like 15 minutes ago
 
Servycal cancer
 
@CatPlusPlus 'stonewalling' is the word that has been in the forefront of my mind tonight
 
2:33 AM
It's also highly ironic after a mod mentioned strawmans
 
@GregorMcGregor Shush, gregor. Please
 
What did I typo something
 
Sigh
 
@LucDanton Yep
 
I have tcpdumps to rewrite
 
2:34 AM
With a healthy dose of :ironicat:, lack of English reading comprehension, Brave New World, and since there's no point in trying to be serious about anything anyway, Hitler
 
Wellp, we'll always have IRC. It's been fun, guise.
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I just spent about 35 minutes reading the transcript for the C++ room and have to say that it looks just as bad as some of the worst reddit threads I've seen. #disgusted — Tiny Giant 5 mins ago
> worst reddit threads I've seen
TIL we are a bad reddit thread
that's offensive
 
hashtag means i'm serious
SO hyped for the destruction of humanity
 
StackOverflow is eager to forget that it is nothing without its users.
 
Hmm, it seems I appeared in a bad time
 
2:43 AM
@VillasV well, that is a matter of perspective
 
@VillasV Ya think?
 
If sehe removed one of my messages because it was inappropriate, I can't even imagine what did you do here
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Now I have a full transcript to read
 
#disgusted #ineedattention #payattentiontome #mysensibilitiesareimportant #moralhighground
 
user406009
What the heck?
 
This is normal
 
user406009
2:46 AM
Did I miss some drama?
 
nope
 
Oh, Lala... Better just ignore this whole thing.
 
@VillasV Thank you for saying that. I heals my soul. A tiny fraction. I'm still here crying why I can get accused/implicated, but no mod will actually speak to me /cc @RobertHarvey
 
I'm back.
 
@Lalaland SO team is just stresstesting our new mods
 
2:46 AM
The very concept of this shitty mindless ~~~professionalism~~~ idiocy makes me want to die
This is normal
 
The Lounge never fails to amuse.
 
May 29 '14 at 16:29, by Jefffrey
I will fight this "professionalism" disease as fiercely as I can till the day I die. — Cat Plus Plus May 16 at 23:37
 
if you read my answer
it's exactly this professionalism/political correctness why I believe the lounge clashes so often
 
It's just going to get downvoted.
 
everyone change their avatar to some business man in suit
all problems fixed
 
2:47 AM
You don't have a star next to your name.
 
Ell
> Feeds: we are sorry for anybody experiencing issues with the new mods: we have been stress testing them
 
PSA FOR STACKOVERFLOW: CHATS DON'T WORK LIKE THAT
 
I've 'bout decided that it takes these kinds of personalities to deal with C++. Otherwise, your heads would just explode.
 
I know you want them to... But they don't... So let's move on.
 
Ell
Oops time to sleep
Night firks
 
2:48 AM
@RobertHarvey Cute.
 
They should at the very least change meta to Dicsourse so it doesn't have this utterly shitty commenting-with-votes system of discussion
Joke's on you, I don't do C++
 
Hey, you guys are the ones who keep telling me "Never learn C++, if you value your sanity."
 
@RobertHarvey I blame it on the Haskellers
 
It's people that ruin everything anyway
@RobertHarvey That's still true
 
@RobertHarvey The motto changed to Haskell a while back.
 
2:49 AM
Nobody would hear you, though.
 
Victory for the mods
The echo chamber undisturbed
 
This Harvey is so sharp, he must be a C# debelober.
 
the question I have
 
Fixing StackOverlfow: remove all mods without gold badges in c++.
 
2:50 AM
is the lounge fundamentally incompatible with SO?
 
@RobertHarvey well that was hurtful in a very off-handed way
 
2 mins ago, by Robert Harvey
Hey, you guys are the ones who keep telling me "Never learn C++, if you value your sanity."
 
@LucDanton That's trolling
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how can cosh get banned for something so simple when I never got banned in 4 years
 
(the meme/shock/troll part)
the biggest value of the lounge for many of the conversations is the humor
 
2:51 AM
@CatPlusPlus well that was insightful in a very straightforward fashion
 
I am jealous
 
@GregorMcGregor You never offended a female mod.
Reach for the stars.
 
Or flags in this case
 
@Rapptz Perhaps because I'm female and know better
 
@GregorMcGregor i think it's mostly because it's evident you're trying
 
2:52 AM
@jaggedSpire same goes for that ~~mofogaga~~ character yesterday. That's what shocked mods into action, turns out
 
@sehe That's disturbingly close to Momotapa
 
He was never seen before
 
@sehe huh
 
and that humor involves extreme absurdist sarcastic jokes including topics as race, sexism, homophobia, 'penis' jokes, and other unprofessional humor
 
I have to look up his/her name
 
2:52 AM
@sehe who was ever seen before they were seen?
 
that is what a part of the lounge is
 
Political correctness is the worst thing to ever happen
 
I have nothing against homosexual black trans females
See how politically correct I am
 
I'll take Hitler over that nonsense any day
 
@CatPlusPlus I personally do not like political correctness either
 
2:53 AM
SORRY IM LATE
 
Well, I don't even have a tenth the rep to see deleted things, so I'm just gonna go about my business
 
@LucDanton The item you found at the last place you looked.
 
but if the entire SO network thinks otherwise...
 
@BoltClock Welcome to the new mod room
 
Hey it's BoltCock
 
2:53 AM
@BoltClock Oh hey it's you.
I still like you m8 dw
 
That's the guy. I think. We can't be sure until we see some evidence (or someone remembers)
 
@BoltClock Well, you're here just in time so see a merry fire. Want a chestnut for roasting?
 
> The C++ Lounge has been getting away with completely unacceptable and unprofessional behavior for years.
 
oh mafag
 
We should ask for a badge
 
2:54 AM
@sehe HAS FAG IN USERNAME, PROCEEDING TO RENAME AND SUSPEND
 
BAD WORD
I'm sad
 
I think he's the guy that triggered the whole thing.
I've never seen him before yesterday
 
when is yesterday in UTC time
 
@VillasV Unacceptable is a thing defined by the rules. Unprofessional is not even in play.
 
2:55 AM
4 hours ago
 
@BoltClock Good thing I never had any sexually connotative username in the past nor plan taking any of those in the future
 
INAPPROPRIATE
 
@ScottW but my precious opinions!
 
My brain cells are dying
 
@GregorMcGregor ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
2:55 AM
help
 
EVERY CHAT ROOM ON STACKOVERFLOW IS FULL OF FOUL LANGUAGE AND POOR FLAT JOKES
 
Whole thing could easily be a setup
 
@BoltClock Am open to suggestions btw
 
@BoltClock this is what confuses me though
 
@GregorMcGregor I thought you already had the next one all set up
 
lol
 
if chat is supposed to be professional, then why are mods also meme'ing away and posting ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)?
 
Can't argue with that
 
2:57 AM
@CatPlusPlus I prefer a PC-world over a non-PC world. Example Winston Churchill quote from a non-PC era: "I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion."
 
Damn it Cat, did you really have to give the middle fingers to the mods?
 
1) Pick a random room on SO that is not the Lounge
2) Type "rape" into search
3) Press enter
4) Form your opinion
 
@jaggedSpire I have a list yes, but never got a mod-picked username so far
 
@LucDanton It's not a bool friend.
 
@orlp You mean you've never seen someone post memes in a professional context?
 
2:58 AM
memes are unprofessional
 
It is a glorious 64-bit integer bitflag.
 
@sehe see his first tag? Java. That's the problem.
 
@BoltClock That's the most annoying thing ever.
 
@Rapptz how else can we touch privates
 
@VillasV sigh. I'd almost manage a smile
 
2:58 AM
@LucDanton Now they say the same thing but directed at different people, with different words and smug sense of superiority
 
@LucDanton And he was right (just look at their SO questions)
 
@BoltClock entirely depends on what counts as a professional context
 
So really, at least he was honest
 
@CaptainGiraffe wow. That's tense.
 
@BoltClock Yes that would be quite unprofessional.
 
2:59 AM
@orlp which is true. Even I'm still hazy on what counts as professional here on chat
 
@CatPlusPlus that’s not redeeming in any way (or relevant)
 
@ScottW such doomed, much end
 
@CatPlusPlus I think the proper word here is "to the point"
 
@LucDanton No, it's not
 
@BoltClock can we use 'hitler did nothing wrong' as an absurdist meme?
can we say 'penis' as a joke?
 

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