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7:00 AM
10 million C++ users and not a single good C++ question
> popular in France
excuse me why I laugh uncontrollably
 
Czech Republic doesn't even have a user group
 
@GregorMcGregor aka 'what I wish I were using instead of Java' 'what they inflict me with instead of something reasonable, like Java'?
 
@GregorMcGregor now that's exaggerated, for instance this title is well-phrased:
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Q: How do I use the `Function Call Operator` to load `rvalue` types to my object?

hkBattousaiI have a class like this: template<typename T> class MyClass { public: // ... T && operator()(uint64_t i, uint64_t j); // I want to add a member function like this. T & operator()(uint64_t i, uint64_t j); const T & operator()(uint64_t i, uint64_...

 
@GregorMcGregor Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité, Vector<T>
 
bien joué
 
7:03 AM
Blogue
 
@fredoverflow Well, they have been for a while. Would be a mess without them.
@GregorMcGregor Java is still at the top of that list.
 
@LucDanton Wait, are you actually French? :)
 
fritte.jpeg
 
en belguique
 
So any news on "seamless integration" of Clang with VS?
 
7:07 AM
@ElimGarak There's this
still in my watch list
 
worst name ever after "includator"
 
sounds like something that would be stylized as includ4t0r
 
@sehe I looked at the code thinking about changing the output, turned out I had not learned much :)
 
that reminds me, I’ll be back
after groceries
 
7:09 AM
ITT Luc Terminator
 
bak works for chat
back at keyboard
 
What. Who closevoted this? And why. It's very much on-topc. It even has the code where the OP stuck — sehe 12 secs ago
@JohanLarsson You mean, not enough c++ fu osmosis from my streams?
 
Oh. I failed :)
Anyhoops, I wrote this as an exercise in terse straightforward standard library wanking. Which means it was relatively un-self-documenting
 
7:19 AM
When I started I had the feeling that this is gonna be piece of cake.
 
Of course, I use pretty names like still_fits in there so it /appears/ to be pretty highlevel still, but really what was happening was raw iterator handling and conversion of reverse iterators to base iterators (always tricky).
I don't blame anyone for not punching through that write-only code in a jiffy
 
what the fuck
this walmart commercial
 
love jon
 
> (HD BEST QUALITY)
 
@GregorMcGregor ironically, that's not how I prefer my porn
there is a quality limit to porn, if you go above that it becomes disgusting
 
7:29 AM
TMI
 
because suddenly that attractive girl has pimples, too much makeup, a hair in her nose and a bruise
 
you also notice those twelve more cocks entering her everywhere
 
@GregorMcGregor god forbid porn becomes realistic
yeah, wtf, where did they come from?
 
I'm not sure starring that is a good idea
 
7:31 AM
Thanks a lot! I already have boost as dependency, so I don't mind using it here, too. — panmari 30 secs ago
sigh. Get rational, peeps
 
@sehe I'm transcendental
 
@orlp disagree
 
@orlp "from" isn't necessary there is it
> Flow control statements using conditions shall have a space between the statement and the opening parenthesis
 
@orlp it's a hoax, right?
 
@sehe wtf dude
that's rude
he has cancer
 
7:34 AM
pfffft you're bad when you troll.
I think you may have gathered a red herring. Care to share a SSCCE? — sehe 5 secs ago
 
Damn. @sehe is way too fast. stackoverflow.com/a/33142116/341065
 
45 minutes ago.
 
> You /can/ of course use Boost IOstreams if you insist:
sehe too hipster for markdown
 
It's a chat habit, really
 
Entendu dans les rayons : « nan mais moi je parlais de ma chatte »
 
The more surprising thing is me, not advocating the use of boost for once
@LucDanton nan?
 
@sehe si
 
So, "non", ?
 
Oui, "non".
 
7:42 AM
@ElimGarak Seen that. Awesome. :D
 
@LucDanton Au rayon Whiskas ou Hygiène Intime ?
 
did you invite her to this chatteroom
 
@GregorMcGregor À mi-distance des deux.
@AndyProwl was a he
 
Ahahah, GamerPoop is back (Fallout episodes)
 
oh
rightfold's chatte
 
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7:44 AM
Hello.
 
heey
 
Hello.
 
Xeo
mornin
 
meowning
@wilx matthew desp ftw
 
Hah. I think I have not seen this one yet.
 
7:51 AM
cool, starting day with 2 residual upvotes
18 to go.
also good morning
 
I loved reading up on color spaces. Very much wondering what those have to do with distance calculation though — sehe 5 secs ago
@BartekBanachewicz you are whoring good
 
Oct 7 at 12:16, by sehe
@BartekBanachewicz Go for epic badge
 
Oh, it's my fault then
 
sure it is
duh
 
7:55 AM
@fredoverflow oh god not this again
 
Okay how about Prolog vs HTML then?
 
Dumb
FP is not about functions
 
lol, actually catchy: Please Use This Song (Jon Lajoie)
 
Also FP doesn't let you skip good design
 
So OOP is not about objects and FP is not about functions. The people who invented those acronyms must be geniuses
 
7:57 AM
In related news, std::move doesn't move, and std::forward doesn't forward ;)
 
OOP is about objects who send messages to each other
FP is about describing the data flow
 
ITT OOP is email
Outlook Oriented Programming
 
@AndyProwl I'd say that way too many people confuse Class-based design and OOP
 
@GregorMcGregor Should we encrypt method calls for better safety then?
 
7:59 AM
or think that classes are the only way to create objects
 
@Griwes That must be the stupidest overload I have ever seen.
 
this is the result of being stuck in silly oversimplified nominal type system like java's
@Griwes what
 
:D
 
no one can be that bad
 
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@fredoverflow repost
 
8:00 AM
> C++
 
@elyse I'm sure it is.
 
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OOP still doesn't exist.
 
I think in a few years Javascript will be a better language than C++
 
@elyse Oh yeah? Tell that to Alan Kay's face!
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol
You mean when it's not JavaScript, but a thing that evolved from it and replaced all the "features" with saner ones?
 
8:01 AM
but it doesn't have a turing complete tpye system
 
also that
 
@Griwes JavaScript has features?
 
yeah
@fredoverflow "features"
 
@Griwes oh hey what about using new or enum in C++14
 
nah
 
8:02 AM
@Griwes Better quote that again, just in case: "\"features\""
 
tpye systems are the thing
 
strong static hype system
8
 
tyeps solve all the problems
conc_tepy_vecotr
 
8:05 AM
> Your tyceps could be as strong as mine. Install Java today!
 
they make good verbibols
 
someone should bokomrak this convo
 
@sehe lol, what? :)
 
> bokomrak
 
Hi all.
I am getting increasingly mad while trying to compile tcl/tk on windows.
 
8:08 AM
No surprise there.
 
Wow. It's been over 10 years anyone mentioned tcl/tk outside a museum
 
Not a fan of nipple cakes myself.
 
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Tcl is awesome.
 
NIPPLE SALADS is all the RAGE
 
Install ActiveTcl and be done with it? What are you compiling anything for
 
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8:09 AM
Strings are the future, and the future starts with Tcl!
 
and even inside the museum they probably meant tcp/ip
 
really, that old ... i did dig into the nmakehlp and discovered comments that it has win98 compatibility
 
winw0t
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes SAELAEDS!
 
8:10 AM
type,... 08 is more fun though :)
 
you should strengthen your tpye system
 
For a moment I thought it was padding to match win10
 
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A guy I know refers to parentheses as "09-brackets".
 
why not 90-brackets
is he Arab
 
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Harder to pronounce.
 
8:11 AM
69-brakcets
 
Because we moved past last century
 
huh - you could do heuristics on that.
 
"Nine-oh" vs "oh-nine"? Hmm
 
tcl/tk in 2015 are you perhaps attempting to contribute to some kind of museum of programming
 
@Jefffrey Dang, that makes the video practically unwatchable :(
 
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@fredoverflow I think he gave the same talk last year at Meeting C++, better quality should be online and watchable
 
@elyse The locations make it sound like a world tour or something.
@AndyProwl I do wonder where that music comes from, though??
 
@JohanLarsson it's been a well hidden feature for some years i.imgur.com/5CmGV9l.png
 
@fredoverflow Dunno, no speakers/headphones atm
 
@elyse it's a joke
 
i cant compile ngspice without tcl/tk.
 
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@fredoverflow not funny :v
 
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i need ngspce to get a mockup of electronics that will produce correct responses for my integration testing.
 
give up
 
8:16 AM
[naɪnʔ.oʊ] vs [oʊ.naɪn] vs [naɪ.noʊ]. Last one us easiest I think.
Damn this is hard to type on a phone.
 
@sehe til :)
 
@elyse ah media. They just hired me to patrol. Didn't you hear? news.sky.com/story/1527443/…
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I like how you typed those phonetic symbols perfectly, but "us easiest"
 
Actually, got the syllable marker misplaced on the first one.
 
user1804599
8:18 AM
Citizen Petrol
 
Should be before the glottal stop.
 
@AndyProwl It's most "US East"-like
 
Also, missed my stop while browsing the Play Store for IPA keyboards.
 
Xeo
Well done
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
8:19 AM
Protip: they're all garbage.
 
I'm not surprised
 
@sehe I do not look forward taking the tunnel to Europe :(
 
> Det man inte har i huvudet får man ha i benen.
 
@JohanLarsson kommer man inte ihåg vad man skulle göra får man gå flera gånger
 
> What is not in ones head must come from ones legs.
 
8:20 AM
@JohanLarsson Hah! We have a similar thing here.
Literally: What is not in head must be in legs.
 
> Chi non ha la testa ha le gambe
(literally: who doesn't have head has legs)
 
Nice.
 
> Esta merda não tem nada a ver com isto
Wait, that's wrong.
 
> What is not in one's head is in your mom
 
Hmm. GT does a good job there.
 
8:23 AM
should be renamed GJ
 
Literal translation would be "does not have nothing to see with it"
 
lol with the Italian version it completely negates the sentence
> Who has the head has legs
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes This shit no tiene nada que ver avec ça !
 
@Luc noticed another grammar difference: Brazilian Portuguese uses the medial demonstrative as proximal.
 
@GregorMcGregor y soy embarazada?
 
8:26 AM
@Griwes hehe
 
"embarazado(a)" is the nastiest false friend.
 
@AlexM. pregnant
 
congrats
 
Little McGreggy
 
lol I was gonna ask why
in my mind I just said "that just means pregnant"
 
8:28 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes sounds like a thesis title
 
In Portuguese it either means embarrassed or is slang for sodomized
 
what's the link between embarassed and embarazada if any
and why do they mean such different things
@GregorMcGregor a most majestuous little capybara
 
Embarazada (Spanish pronunciation: [embaɾaˈθaða]) is the Spanish word for pregnant. It is a false friend for native English-speaking students of Spanish who may attempt to say "I'm embarrassed" by saying "estoy embarazada". This phrase actually means "I'm pregnant" in Spanish. This may be confusing to Spanish speakers who are not familiar with the English word. When Parker Pen entered the Mexican market, its advertisements which claimed that Parker Pens "won't leak in your pocket and embarrass you" was mistranslated to "No te embarazará chorreándose en tu bolsillo", which means "Won't leak in your...
bad onexbox
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's embarassing
 
@GregorMcGregor "oops i got sodomized"
 
8:32 AM
@AndyProwl so complicated
 
The makelfile uses compiles nmakehlp.c first to detect compatible compiler/linker options.
It does so with fake calls and parsing the output.
Then the makefile forgets its strategy and calls the linker with incompatible options.
My makefile skills are too low to debug this - i think i need to rebuild the makefile by hand to understand it.
 
I'm still pleasantly surprised every time pushing to github works.
 
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lol makefiles
 
OWASP 3 added "Verify password entry fields allow, or encourage, the use of passphrases, and do not prevent long passphrases/highly complex passwords being entered."
Maybe idiots will start listening
 
I hope encourage means "stop masking the fucking text"
 
8:38 AM
> Specializations our learners love
Coursera
this site spams me the most
more than fucking game stores
I don't even
 
@FilipRoséen-refp as robot said (and I didn't read much further), that's not redundant. Your asking about having shitty answers with no explanation and shitty answers with too much explanation.
 
I already unsubscribed to like two things from them damnit
 
Hi loungerz
 
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I'm starving.
 
@AlexM. Find the email to their CEO and forward the spam saying *I don't want this anymore'
 
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8:41 AM
Coyoneda is amazing.
 
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xD
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes so damn annoying
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: And now back to our regularly scheduled grumpiness. [c++] [c++11] [c++14] [c++-faq]
 
8:58 AM
Some SETI researcher wants to publish a paper with an explanation for KIC 8462852's bizarre light patterns. A "swarm of megastructures", he said. theatlantic.com/science/archive/2015/10/…
 
> “Aliens should always be the very last hypothesis you consider, but this looked like something you would expect an alien civilization to build.”
 
@BartekBanachewicz btw, what's your 'care' regarding gldr? iirc, no care to actively work on it, but willing to parse comments?
 
@thecoshman are you saying that my answers linked are shitty?
 
Flame war episode 2?
 
The Troll Returns
 
Xeo
9:10 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Would for sure be amazing
 
user1804599
Perl 6 has a ~| operator which takes two strings and does a bitwise OR on their codepoints.
 
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> "ABC" ~| "DDD"
"EFG"
 
useful
 
@thecoshman anything in particular?
 
Xeo
om nom nom free cake
 
user1804599
9:18 AM
bukcake
 
user1804599
Imagine someone pissed in the flour.
 
new office, and we have been using the wifi because we have still not gotten documentation for where the ethernet-connections are going (we have checked the patch-panel, but we couldn't find any of the jacks located where we sit)
I climbed up to the ceiling and checked (it's about 4 meters up, so no one has bothered to do that before)
where do all the cables lead?
 
@BartekBanachewicz well, I'm currently sorting out a gldr class texture cube maps, and also thinking of doing a big re-style to bring it in-line with std C++ style
 
nowhere, they are just rulled up right above the ceiling panels
so that... kinda explains the issue
 
I'm currently working with it as a distinct class just for textures using cube map, but thinking I could slip it into the same existing texture class, and use some template stuff to enable the required image buffering function that lets you pass what face of the cube you are buffering data for.
 
9:23 AM
@FilipRoséen-refp how did you climb that high?
stacking tables?
or just a ladder?
I hope :)
 
probably climbed the cables :P
 
@thecoshman by "std C++ style" you mean snake_case? I don't like it vOv.
@thecoshman why do you need template stuff? Put the common functionality in abstract base and inherit from it or something.
 
such a beautiful song youtube.com/watch?v=4pBo-GL9SRg
I like the beginning especially
it gets louder but not really at the same time
 
I'd rather listen to a pizza sing
 
k
 
9:31 AM
@BartekBanachewicz well, it's already templated on the 'dimension' of the texture, and the way gl takes the info that you want a 'cubemap' texture, it would be a dimension. And for the most part, that alone would be fine. Except for the part where you actually buffer the image data. I could do an abstract base, then derive to "normal" textures (which is what we have already) and "cube texture". It'd work I guess... but I was thinking I could enable_if the function that allows you set what face you are...
going to buffer image data for, and disable the other function.
 
@AlexM. I FEEL OLD
 
yea the song is a bit old
 
Hmmm, location ~ ^/v(.*)$ { alias $wwwroot/v/$1; } is not working somehow :<
 
What are you trying to do
 
a few other songs that I remember from that time because they were constantly pushed at the radio are youtube.com/watch?v=RVmG_d3HKBA and youtube.com/watch?v=UqON44CLaQM
the latter was almost looped on certain stations
 
9:33 AM
rewrite is probably better for this
 
@CatPlusPlus Serve http://example.com/v1 from /www/v/1.
 
Perhaps try_files would work
Try something like rewrite ^/v([^/].*)$ /v/$1 last;
 
@StackedCrooked they have "aestetic" holes in the wall, you I put my feet in one of those (there are two big ones) - and then over the ceiling panels there are "thingies that support a lot of weight" so I used them
I started climbing when I was 14, so this wasn't a biggie
 
You know who else has aesthetic holes I put my feet into
 
@CatPlusPlus Hmm, but I want the root to serve from a different folder otherwise.
 
9:44 AM
@thecoshman can't you specialize for cube map "dimension"?
 
I.e. /x1 serves from /www/foo/x1
WTF
German company sends me an e-mail and my address shows up with ü and ß removed.
 
Xeo
lol
 
FFS you're German, you're not supposed to fuck this up.
Replace them with the digraphs if you want, but I'm sure German post can deal with them as is.
Removing them is just wrong.
I live in a Strae, which I assume would stand for Strä.
 
> Memory cost too much in reading a 5.47MB file's binary bits out as string then write bits to a new file
 
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yummy apple juice
 
9:48 AM
Jesus fuck no one knows how to do addresses in the Internet.
 
addreßes
 
Web 2.idiots.
It's like MSVC: two decades later, still no 2-phase lookup, but at least we will have buggyadics.
Fancy AJAX shit, but still can't get name fields right, or password fields right, or address fields right.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey, at least they intend to fix it :D
 
Why is everyone so excited over Battlefront? It's a half-assed version of the old ones.
 
not many star wars games
(getting released nowadays)
 
9:53 AM
There is this thing called KOTOR that needs the number 3 by its name, goddammit. :'(
There was one new, interesting game coming our way, called Star Wars 1313... Of course, cancelled.
 
Here's how to do address fields:
0. Don't ask for my address.
1. Find out why the fuck you need my address.
2. Don't ask for my address.
3. Tell me what you need my address for.
4. Don't ask for my address.
5. What you want is probably "text that you can use to send stuff to me".
6. Don't ask for my address.
7. What you want is not street + house number + ZIP code + city + state + country.
8. Don't ask for my address.
9. Ask for "text that you can use to send stuff to me".
10. Don't ask for my address.
 
@ElimGarak I liked TFU
but I only played it on PSP
it's also the only star wars game I played, if you exclude rogue squadron
 
Have you played Super TFU
 
The name on my DHL card is "Martinho Fernandes bei McDonald" because my address needed "bei McDonald" in addition to the street + number and their system couldn't handle anything that isn't a fucking street + number. So in order to send it to me they added it to my name instead. Fucking idiots.
And this is the fucking DHL.
 
you live by McDonald's?
wow
no wonder you hate their food
 
9:57 AM
@AlexM. No. My ex-flatmate's last name is McDonald.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what the fuck?
 
Yes, everyone gets this shit way beyond wrong when it's fucking trivial. See my guide above.
I should do one for names too.
 

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