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user1646075
12:00 AM
Marco "pool" Polo introduced it to the west via India
 
Ell
I just made that sentence up :(
Haha
 
@Ell I'd like to see a baroque chinese piece earlier than Telemann, .pdf pls.
 
Ell
It was meant to fool the other guy, not you :P
 
user1646075
i was hoping for that
 
Ell
But I felt bad as soon as you said that :P
 
user1646075
12:01 AM
sometimes I wonder if playing at trolling is truly indistinguishable from real trolling
 
user1646075
@Ell i'm feeling sad that there's so much serious.
 
user1646075
see also starred item in star list
 
Ell
I'm on mobile
I can't see the starboard ATM :(
 
user1646075
ok. "They might have invented the instrument, but not the baroque "style" of music"
 
@aclarke QWhen I soid "They might have invented the instrument" I did not mean that they actually invented the insturment.
I meant that it does not matter.
 
user1646075
12:06 AM
 
user1646075
wow - the mechanism of the piano key is hard core
 
And the serious is apt, it is great music, I can only encourage everyone here to listen to and make that music themself.
So worth it.
 
@Sofffia That I am.
 
anyone here used Picasa before?
 
user1646075
Hey @Nooble, try 3D printing a piano mechanism
 
12:10 AM
aaay
 
user1646075
@BaummitAugen I prefer punk, post-punk and shoe gazing
 
user1646075
Beethoven was the original heavy metal musician
 
@aclarke There is some pretty neat Punk too, without doubt.
 
user1646075
Now you're being daft.
 
The Beethoven thing is arguable, blues scales where not really known during his lifespan.
 
user1646075
12:15 AM
Sex pistols lyrics are incredibly deep
 
user1646075
@BaummitAugen it's all about the testosterone, not the scales
 
Well, music of that epoch did not really
convince with lyrics. :)
 
user1646075
caution - NSFL (not safe for lunch) for some people
 
user1646075
very chilling anti-abortion song
 
12:19 AM
As i said, "classic" lyrics are often not known so be ultra clever.
Sth. like the Verdi Requiem or the Brahms Requiem is just a Requiem larics-wise, but it still is incredible music.
 
user1646075
@BaummitAugen i disagree, lyrics should be clear and honest, and go straight to the inner soul, like Cocteau Twins lyrics for example.
 
user1646075
i don't think anyone who's heard Elizabeths thoughts put to song, would ever doubt the authenticity of her point of view
 
@aclarkef Well, a requiem's lyrics are really clear and go straight to the soul of any true christian (I'm not one of them).
But making great music from some predefined text is still great.
 
user1646075
@BaummitAugen .... clear ..... true christian ..... /oxymoron?
 
As a non-native:
oxymoron?
 
user1646075
12:25 AM
umm, "military intelligence" is a common example
 
user1646075
conflicted concept if you are cynical about military .... intelligence
 
I'm sorry, I still do not get the meaning.
 
I like questions where you can copy and paste the documentation as an answer. Easy rep
 
(leo.org helped me) :)
 
user1646075
"organised chaos", "government worker", etc
 
12:28 AM
@aclarke I wonder how it ever got developed? I love piano, but it should not exist. Good material for the 'intelligent designers' :)
 
user1646075
@MartinJames italy, around the 17th century i think, a progession on harpsichord and clavicle (or what ever that clav* instrument is)
 
Yeah, you overestimate the lyrics. They were given by the surrounding of the composers in the case of requiems.
What is impressive is what they made of this given lyrics.
 
user1646075
@MartinJames good material to attribute to skilled craftsmen who could think
 
user1646075
I wonder how many failed designs the guy(s) worked on before they got it functional
 
@aclarke Skilled craftsmen, fine. Skilled musicians, fine. How did both get together to make such a glorious instrument?
 
user1646075
12:32 AM
@MartinJames incest?
 
@aclarke lol
 
user1646075
Duhhh - who's the dickhead who said "Clavicle" - it's Clavichord
 
user1646075
presumably because the keys were made of collar bones.
 
user1646075
@MartinJames same way programmers and end-users somehow get together I s'pose.
 
hmm. walked through campus because there's a cash point there and i needed it for my cab home, decided to wait on campus for my cab because why walk any further. student rep notices me wondering around and comes out for a friendly chat. why on earth i decided to play along that i was a fresher is beyond me.. i am obviously in my late-20s, now with a strong local accent. she didn't buy it. left me to it then i went off in my cab.
in hindsight someone probably sent her out to check on the dodgy looking bearded guy strolling around the hall car park during freshers week
ffs.
if i'd just been honest - alumni, local, waiting for cab, got friends who live there - i could have made a new friend!
now i probably shouldn't pop by for a bit......
 
user1646075
12:37 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit next time, carry a long thin bag, like for a hockey stick
 
@aclarke I don't like getting together with end-users. They talk with me in meetings etc. all day then take me down the bar. Come midnight, I'm spilling how sucky the software they've just bought really is:(
 
Or a chainsaw.
 
or a sawn-off shotgun
 
^
 
i feel like such an idiot right now
 
user1646075
12:37 AM
@MartinJames you need to work on your boundaries
 
Or a really sharp stick.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Fail.
 
Um, guys what does it mean when you say file.read((char*)&C,sizeof(C)). I understand that char* is a pointer but what does (char*)&C mean?
 
user1646075
@Nick welcome to 1980
 
@Nick Look at prototype for read().
 
12:39 AM
@MartinJames blame the doom bar being off and my having to pick a different ale
i feel so old
 
user1646075
Cast, C style
 
@aclarke: Yeah, I found it in a textbook from 2000. So, it must old practice.
 
user1646075
@Nick sniff, now I feel so old
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm fine - Courage Directors on tonite;)
 
user1646075
12:40 AM
ITR: old skool peeps
 
@aclarke: Code time is faster than human time. You write code today that will be outdated tomorrow.
 
@aclarke ITR?
 
@aclarke: So, no, you're not old...yet
 
user1646075
in this room
 
user1646075
not quite a thread...
 
12:42 AM
Need sleeps, nite all.
 
No!
All you need is caffeine
 
user1646075
@Nick it's like reinterpret_cast <new_type> (expression) but more evil and reckless
 
@aclarke: Aha, I knew it was evil.
 
@MartinJames awes
 
12:55 AM
Good morning.
Huh. Firefox is releasing 32.0.x versions now. Might be security but it's quite annoying having to restart it.
 
user1646075
morning
 
1:08 AM
@Ell searching for macro on cppreference takes you to std::ratio because it thinks you meant std::micro and made a typo. I'll add macro as a search keyword.
 
1:35 AM
@Cubbi Can you simply add search keywords? If so, could you add keywords like static_castas well?
 
I can add, although @ptic12 would know better what happens next (like when it gets reindexed)
 
I don't know about the possible negative implications, but getting no result for queries like "static_cast" or "random access iterator" is the most annoying thing about cppr IMO.
 
There's always "You can also use external search engines for the query: Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo"
 
Yeah, that does work.
But it is two extra clicks from !cppr static_cast in my address bar with ddg.
But don't worry, I will stay with cppr anyway, it tould just be nice to have. :)
 
2:00 AM
Google is almost always better than a site's own search feature.
I configured Chrome so that Google searches starting with "cpp" like "cpp blabla" becomes "blabla -site:cppreference.com".
It's very efficient.
 
I don't like doing that
when I do cpp vector I like that it brings me to vector's page immediately rather than google
 
Yeah, the feature that brings me to the right page immediately if i (kinda) know its title is about the best thing about ddg.
It already works good enough for me to use it, but if it would work better, I'd be glad.
 
2:17 AM
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
who passed the test
who did it
I did.
happy dance
 
@Chantola what did you do? :D
 
@OMGtechy we had the test on arrays, multi-dimensional arrays and using logical functions with the review on all of the loops.
@OMGtechy I got 125 points!
@BaummitAugen Exactley..
 
Is that good? You certainly seem to be happy about it :P
 
@OMGtechy most points earned in the entire class that day, and it counts for like 1/4 of my grade.
 
2:20 AM
Nice!
 
Anyways, no time. I was practicing coding all day and my other college courses so now I have to go to do my actual curriculum.
 
 
3 hours later…
4:56 AM
A Unix shell enables computer users to issue commands to an operating system. Typical users have no need for access to shell but system administrators and others do.
from this
This journalist has no idea what he's talking about ...
 
user1646075
all programmers. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh
 
user1646075
Found a program that lets you to use a bunch of services without having to jump around different GUIs. It’s called the command line ಠ_ಠ
 
user1646075
@chmod711telkitty sooo - wtf is the freaking bug? even the cern report is not saying anything. Is it the fact that it can *gasp* run commands?
 
user1646075
oooo-errrr - env injections.
 
maybe it's not a news article but suspense - keep you guessing ...
 
user1646075
5:11 AM
the Redhat report shows it. Let's have a news frenzy!
 
user1646075
damn rain. my rear tyres are nearly bald. was going to change them on monday.
 
6:01 AM
Meh.
I so do not want to go to work today.
Somebody motivate me, please!
 
user1646075
@VáclavZeman ummmmmm, get up off your arse and do some work?
 
user1646075
did that help?
 
Nope.
 
My newest app occasionally tell people their current location is in the middle of the ocean
 
user1646075
i'm running out of ideas here...
 
user1646075
6:04 AM
@chmod711telkitty printing in the middle of an update that should have a mutex around it?
 
@VáclavZeman you want to make sure the person you dislike in the office is gaining weight again
 
user1646075
@chmod711telkitty ooo that's wickid
 
Haha. That's a good one.
 
remember to bring donuts/cake or other deliciously fattening stuff - just to make sure it happens ~_~
 
user1646075
ok, how about this. There will be pizza ordered in by the boss as thanks for a big sale.
 
user1646075
6:06 AM
while he keeps the actual sales profit for himself.
 
@aclarke have to find it out - currently in the testing stage & not on the market
 
No, there will not be any such thing. I am a programmer, remember?
 
user1646075
@chmod711telkitty is it an app for convenient places to swim in your local area? if so, what's the problem?
 
I do not work in sales.
 
user1646075
@VáclavZeman sure, but just to keep the slaves programmers in their place feeling the vibe, don't you guys ever get food put on?
 
6:09 AM
Man, this Swift keyboard for Android is nice. I like t he gestures input.
Nope. :(
 
user1646075
@VáclavZeman I can't live without Swype on my Samsung, and I get really frustrated watching people peck at individual letters...
 
user1646075
hah - this is embarrassing:
"Swype's Living Language now also supports over 20 dialects, which means if you live in Australia, we'll automatically load local words like lollies (candy), arvo, and brekky (breakfast)."
 
user1646075
@VáclavZeman what's the 'gestures input' - continuous wiping across the letters? Sounds like swype then...
 
user1646075
or just gestures for 'Send', 'Back' etc
 
Next time you fly a jet plane, remember to bring backups? io9.com/…
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6:21 AM
@aclarke For the letters over the keyboard. Yes, probably similar.
 
user1646075
@VáclavZeman just looked at the website. Extremely similar. SEXY isn't it?
 
user1646075
i was looking at a page which said swiftkey is available for apples, and it said nothing about swiping. Pooooor apple fags.
 
user1646075
@sehe wow - sounds like a must-watch. Seriously???
 
@sehe lol, that sounds so dumb. Unfortunately, 90 % of population worldwide will not recognize it as such.
 
user1646075
6:25 AM
lovely review. 4 and a half stars for the review.
 
user1646075
@VáclavZeman looks good.
 
meh gawker
 
@sehe wow
 
6:58 AM
boost::units::detail::demangle - what. I admit I didn't know it was there, but why would you use implementation details like this? — sehe 9 secs ago
 
user1804599
7:18 AM
@sehe I think he just uses it to print the data while debugging.
 
7:33 AM
@sehe Brilliant, just brilliant!
it's also funny how long it takes to download that backup. Airport software is so old you could probably fit on a 3 1/2"
 
airport software?
@rightfold yeah. so? I'm talking about using implementation details. It's not like it's more than 5 lines of code anyways
What output do you expect? Why is the output strange? (a.k.a. what are you trying to achieve/what's the XY problem here) — sehe 59 secs ago
Anyways, looked at it another time. Tried to be more constructive
 
user1804599
7:52 AM
I wish I discovered promises earlier.
 
8:08 AM
Is a pointer-to-member-function convertible to pointer-to-const-member function?
template<typename R, typename T>
auto RegisterAttribute(const std::string& name, R(T::*f)() const)
^ This function takes a pointer to const member function. Will it also accept pointer to non-const member function?
 
user1804599
I would be surprised if that were possible.
 
user1804599
A non-const member function cannot be invoked on a const object.
 
I see.
 
user1804599
If what you want to do were possible, you could pass &someType::someNonConstFunction (which expects this to be pointer to non-const) and then call it with a this that points to const.
 
user1804599
Which would be dangerous.
 
8:15 AM
Indeed.
I just realized that.
 
@sehe I think I did what the OP wants once, but I really don’t recall what it took.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Is it possible with const_cast?
 
@sehe well I doubt the likes of their flight tracking and all that jazz is so old it's done via pure mechanical hardware
 
I may have folded over an MPL sequence to stuff the elements into a C++11 variadic list and then rebound the elements to a MPL sequence. It’s silly but that’s what happens when going against the grain.
 
... and no, I don't think they have 'one bit of software that does it all'... it's probably like three pieces.
 
user1804599
8:20 AM
Having to look up/verify behaviour like this is one of the thnigs that make mutability suck.
 
@rightfold I just wondered if I could have a single overload of RegisterAttribute that supports both const and non-const ptmfs.
 
user1804599
Make it a template. :P
 
Yeah, but that conflicts with my other overload which accepts non-member functions:
template<typename F>
auto RegisterAttribute(const std::string & name, F&& f) -> decltype(f(), void())
Oh well.
 
user1804599
Use std::is_member_function_pointer and SFINAE!
 
I could do that.
@rightfold I found that one a minute ago :)
The type traits library is really great.
 
user1804599
8:25 AM
I wonder how one would do member function pointers in Scala.
 
user1804599
I think (_: T).f.
 
user1804599
Ah, (_: T).f _.
 
8:40 AM
@LucDanton I haven't worked out what the OP expects anyways :S
 
user1804599
Ugh.
 
user1804599
>>> MultiDict({'a': 'b', 'c': ['d', 'e']})
MultiDict([('a', 'b'), ('c', 'd'), ('c', 'e')])
 
user1804599
This is so broken.
 
@StackedCrooked do you have a reason to care whether it is a ptmf, ptf, bmf, or else? Could you just take a calleable and not care?
 
@sehe I was referring to the title.
 
8:42 AM
@rightfold mmm? It exposes the internal organization of the datastructure? It normalizes the sequence?
@LucDanton oh hey. I can read titles too :) Good point
 
user1804599
@sehe special casing of lists.
 
user1804599
Or rather, special casing of non-lists.
 
user1804599
MultiDict({'a': 'b', 'c': ['d', 'e']}) should be a type error, and MultiDict({'a': ['b'], 'c': ['d', 'e']}) should be correct.
 
user1804599
There are two ways to do it of which one is inconsistent and confusing. Very unpythonic.
 
special casing of list values. yeah, that looks convenient but breaks genericity
 
user1804599
8:45 AM
Reminds me of JavaScript. :)
 
user1804599
> Array(2)
[undefined × 2]
> Array(2, 3)
[2, 3]
 
@thecoshman you must have given that video a lot more attention than I did. I didn't notice it was about any of that. But, yeah, I can't really be bothered to look so closely
 
-1
Q: Where to add SURF?

madLokeshI am trying to fecth the feature descriptors and keypoints of the video frame. I have created a new XCode project using openCV2 framework. I am getting error while importing nonfree module. I tried initializing the same bt with no luck. Is there any SURF.cpp which I have to import and call its ...

 
Thanks mate, we're frequently looking for bad questions to downvote
 
@sehe dont do that plz...
 
user1804599
8:47 AM
And close vote for not containing SSCCEs, exact and expected outputs.
 
user1804599
Don't advertise bad questions if you don't want people to judge them.
 
@madLokesh I won't. You just read the newbie hints right away, okay? ("plz.....")
 
@rightfold I am not adcertising bad questions. I am looking for a direction
 
The direction is out chat.stackoverflow.com/chats/leave/10. <evil/>
 
@sehe cliche
 
8:49 AM
you mean, touche
 
user1804599
You mean douche.
 
I mean cliche you douche...
 
Ell
These are all niche words
 
Damn windows keyboard making it too hard to type e-accent aigu
Chop chop. You've got better things to do
 
Ell
@madlokesh I don't think you know what a cliché is
 
8:54 AM
I do.... I responded to a cliche statement made by sehe " the direction is out" when I asked "I am looking for a direction".
 
Ell
That is a cliche?
Are you sure its not just a quote of something?
 
good morning prokaryotes
 
@dolan good morning dick
oh wait, is it a duck?
welp who cares
 
9:09 AM
Platinum is extremely expensive
 
sbi
9:23 AM
@Puppy Hey, you got a job? (Yes, I am indeed astonished.)
 
provokaryotes
 
sbi
@aclarke Watcha been pinging me for??
@sehe Say again?
 
Good morning, ape
 
sbi
@sehe Oh, I hadn't read this out of it!
 
Okay then: "again". (look here. everything has context)
 
9:25 AM
quiet today
 
sbi
@sehe Ah, I hadn't looked up.
 
6
Q: Is it still an "ice cream cone" if it doesn't have ice cream?

Milliarde89I had a discussion with some friends yesterday about whether the term "ice cream cone" describes: Simply the cone itself or The cone plus the ice cream Upon looking in several online dictionaries, I found out that both are acceptable definitions. Is there any sort of rule in English that desc...

 
@sbi Good. The direction can be many ways, so be sure to look out too!
(and I'm off to do some work)
 
sbi
@thecoshman I have a friend who organized a boat trip outside of Berlin to some woodman's house and a roasted boar in that house's garden. That was a company event and I have no idea how much that would cost. But I could ask.
 
9:29 AM
@sehe Hello there mammal
 
@madLokesh That is not a cliché.
 
I have to go to college to get some papers done
but that means I have to wake up at 8AM or so
ugh
 
@AlexM. OMG! How will you deal with that!?
 
badly
 
(I wake up at 7 a.m. everyday.)
 
9:33 AM
I can't, I've tried
I always end up waking up at 10+
and I mean I really tried, but no chance
and it's not like I try for a week and fail
 
"I'm in a bit of a bind with DNS servers today" - colleague
@VáclavZeman ouch
 
last time, over the course of 2 months or so I slowly went back to going to bed at 2-3AM and waking up at 10+
 
there are those of us for whom that is biologically difficult. it will always feel like the middle of the night no matter how early we went to bed
 
it's as if that's the only way for me to live
 
@AlexM. You just have to go to sleep at or soon after 24 o'clock.
 
9:35 AM
> last time, over the course of 2 months or so I slowly went back to going to bed at 2-3AM and waking up at 10+
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Bollocks!
 
I just go later and later each day until I go back to how it was before
in small increments, you almost can't even feel it
 
@AlexM. Have you no will power? Are you a child?
 
it's no about willpower
it's about feeling comfortable
 
Yes, it is about will power and discipline. Do what is right instead doing what feels good now?
 
9:36 AM
@VáclavZeman Nope
 
@VáclavZeman why is it right?
 
@AlexM. It allows you to interact with other people in the usual times? :)
 
@VáclavZeman no it's not and that reaction is really irritating. people take "I have not heard of this condition" and translate that into "this condition does not exist".
 
Take the right with a pinch of salt.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You are just weak spoiled child. :)
 
yeah but currently college is the only thing that requires me to wake up early (some X times per year)
 
9:39 AM
@VáclavZeman wtf man
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You heard me.
 
people like you make life HELL for those with invisible mental difficulties
fuck you.
 
blablablabla
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Rage quit!
 
actually, make that 2 times per year
 
9:40 AM
looks around Nope, I'm still here
 
since I don't sleep before exams anyway
 
rage quitting our friendship, if that counts. You're being an intolerant wanker
 
Ell
@VáclavZeman I'm guessing you don't believe in depression right?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Were were friends before? :)
 
9:40 AM
It's about willpower! Who cares that you can't do shit whole day!
 
@VáclavZeman Yes, for several years...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Awww, I was not aware.
 
@CatPlusPlus I do think you can still get shit done even if you wake up at 10 though
 
puh-lonk
arsehole
 
Aww.
I think I understand what trolls feel now. :)
 
9:42 AM
@AlexM. If I managed to fall asleep early maybe
 
Why they do it.
 
There's no difference between being an idiot and pretending to be an idiot hth
 
@CatPlusPlus Maybe you should take a laxative then?
 
Also buh server patching day
 
@CatPlusPlus rly
 
9:43 AM
@CatPlusPlus On the Internet, true. :)
 
1
A: Libzip zip_dir_add from manual not declared - C/C++

Tejas PawarFunction is int zip_add_dir(); Try it. It should work.

these answers wind me up a little. why?
 
Today is nickchange day
 
@Lightness: Engrish! I think I'm offended. No, not really, looking through your edits, I'm almost ashamed it was that bad. Thanks :-) — paxdiablo 5 mins ago
haha :D
 
TBH, I do not know how does one put people in an ignore list here?
 
Click on their miniature
 
9:46 AM
@dolan Aha!
Thanks.
 
> If I had a budget of $1000 I'd add $600 more and get <better hardware components here>
how do some people manage to say this stuff seriously
(translated from a Romanian forum where some guy was recommending hardware stuff to OP who wanted a new PC)
 
@AlexM. Because there is a difference between the budget they wish they kept to and the actual limit of their monetary reserves?
 
usually when you post a budget it means that's what you allotted for the thing
if you can just add any amount of money to a budget like that in hopes that OP may have that much laying around, budgets become very irrelevant
it's not like $600 is $10
 
@AlexM. Have you seen a single state, county, municipality that stayd true to their budge?
 
If I had a budget of 1$ I'd double it until it's enough for what I want
 
9:52 AM
@VáclavZeman this is about a guy who saved money to buy a PC
I don't think that applies
 
@AlexM. Well, it IMHO applies to certain degree as well.
But OK, I concede that saying something like that is sort of silly.
 
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Q: Theft from communal kitchen causing issues across teams

ClairI have reviewed how can we prevent theft of food from shared fridges by coworkers and whilst similar I think the differences warrant me posting this as a separate question. Me and my team (12 in all) share a tiny communal kitchen space with another team consisting of 8 people including their m...

this is funny
#lolmancs
 
it's very silly imo, I mean I understand when people say stuff like "add $20 more and get this video card which is a lot better than what you have there", since the financial effort isn't that big, but that guy asked him to add more than half of the original budget lol
 

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