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12:01 AM
Important News At 11
 
@Mysticial All I saw was the 21634 counter at the top. Damn you =/
I'm gonna go wallow (?) in self-pity now
 
I need to find a way not click on my inbox.
 
But it's the only way to get notified on various things.
 
Xeo
@Mysticial go to your profile directly?
 
12:08 AM
@Xeo I'd have to check all the sites.
And I'd miss chat pings.
 
@Mysticial I've wondered if it was possible to make an addon that would put up an html div of some sort over the counter making it unclickable (by grabbing all the click events in that area and doing nothing with them)
 
Xeo
eh, you get those on the red thingy
 
Shog mod-messaged me a while back. I almost missed it because I had like 10 things in my inbox.
 
Xeo
Wait, why do you not want to click on your inbox?
 
Extra colors? I don't know. :)
 
12:09 AM
travis-ci modified its permissions?
 
Actually, Shog didn't mod-message me, he super-pinged me into a moderator chat. Whatever, I wouldn't have seen it if I didn't go through my entire inbox. (which had like 10 things in it when I woke up)
But I had to check my SO profile first, then my meta.SO profile.
The two most likely places that I get pinged - then there's chat. lol
 
Xeo
just suck it up and look a your inbox :P
 
I also don't like clicking on it because it's right next to the green icon and it's very easy to misclick.
 
Xeo
That happens to me on mobile all the time
 
I don't see the problem
@Mysticial hah! funny story, the OP of the question he's talking about (from 2009) has only ever posted one other question. guess which one...
31 mins ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
-2
Q: Reference to iterator in for loop in c++

ChanakyaIn this code, k is always 0. Where as val points to the next element. Both are initialized within the for loop, one changes its value but the other does not. #include <iostream> // std::cout #include <algorithm> // std::find #include <vector> // std::vector int main() { std::ve...

this one
that's mental
 
Xeo
Surprise: Everyone's good at security!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit woah... that's a pretty good coincidence
 
2 days ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
got an email about this
@Mysticial it's totes amaze
 
Oh hey I haven't checked my RSS in 2 days
That explains that!
 
nighty night, denizens of hell
 
Xeo
12:25 AM
Alright, I think I reached a good break point.
Time for sleep!
 
12:40 AM
Can someone please add the tags "c++-vs-java" "inline-include" and "how-to" to my post, because I don't have enough reputation to make them. Thanks! — Vladimir 22 secs ago
 
Shutter island is fucking good.
You watch it for 3 times and every time there's something new you have missed.
 
1:01 AM
36
A: What is a ragequit, on SO?

rowascIt's mostly used in the gaming community to describe the act of someone leaving groups, clans, dungeons, or games out of anger. A classic "Rage Quit" situation would be someone who dies in a game, perceives it as someone else's fault (or feels cheated) then leaves. In the context of Stack Exch...

> Example: As I am being downvoted for giving an answer that does not directly relate to Stack Exchange, I will create irrelevant questions, downvote answers and delete my account.
 
user3010322
Yaay, sol is now entirely feature-complete and able to compete with everyone else's stuff.~
 
user3010322
Also MOAR HEADSET RECOMMENDATIONS NAO.
 
1:24 AM
Did.. did github change their fonts?
 
@Rapptz I don't think so. I'm not certain though.
 
everything changed on my end
even the code blocks look different
Maybe they changed the CSS because I didn't change anything
 
This seems a bit off.
 
not there
I meant in the README
see, e.g. here: github.com/Rapptz/sol
looks weird
 
Oh. Yeah.
It just seems bigger.
 
1:32 AM
I don’t use github fairly often but that looks different yes
 
If I change the font size from 85% to 84% it goes back the way it was.
 
lol, I don't notice the difference.
 
They changed the font from Helvetica to Helvetica Neue
 
the code blocks no longer have borders
 
Now I see it. The markdown rendering of bullets is messed up.
 
1:34 AM
not sure I like the new font choice tbh
 
I don't.
 
no strong feelings etc
 
yeah, now that I look at it more, it's fugly. Plain and simple.
 
I kinda agree with the choice of no-borders for code blocks though.
 
I liked my borders :(
 
1:38 AM
@Rapptz Oh. I know you do. :)
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Q: I'm cursed! Well.. kind of

RapptzIn the chat room I was writing messages asking to close vote something when I noticed my tag had become flat without a shadow like so: Instead mine were flat! But everyone else's was normal.. So my question is, why are my tags so weird compared to everyone else's? Is it a bug? EDIT: My...

 
k let me try with proper color temperature
 
oh man that's so old
hah
 
Still looks like whatever to me.
 
I see that bug got fixed on September.
I didn't know they fixed chat bugs.
 
Only if they're trivial
And planets align
:lol: Docker Hub
I chose "signup with Github" and not only do they require a password anyway, they didn't link the new account with GH
 
1:51 AM
@Mysticial dat terrible title
 
You're terrible
Time to make shawarma.
 
@Mysticial lol
Good morning.
 
Time to hit the shabeda.
 
Night.
 
How do I place multiple pins on google map?
 
1:56 AM
@Rapptz How do you prepare the meat?
 
grill or pan
 
user3010322
Arrgh.
 
depends how lazy I am
 
user3010322
Clang on windows driving me mad.
 
What do you use for grilling?
 
1:59 AM
Whatcha mean?
 
@ThePhD clang-cl?
 
user3010322
Not clang-cl.
 
user3010322
Just.... clang in general.
 
user3010322
I don't mind invoking the clang args.
 
use the windows installer
 
2:00 AM
I just use MinGW, and I've always thought clang would be as convenient.
 
@Rapptz What do you grill on, I suppose.
 
Oh. On a grill.
similar to these
 
Where do you put that? Do you have a yard?
 
On my backyard
 
There are electric grills
 
2:04 AM
How fanciful and exotic.
 
As I was making this sandwich I just remembered Alex's shawarma used the entire loaf of bread.
 
More like sheet :)
 
Kinda weird. Everyone always uses half the loaf of bread.
I guess.
 
For bread that’s more like a pita, or more like a wrap / dürüm?
 
former
 
2:13 AM
I’ve always used whole pitas, but halves sounds more convenient.
On a completely unrelated matter, I’m now super hungry.
 
well I guess we use halves cause we eat pita bread with everything
So I guess we try to 'salvage' it? Keep it for longer so we don't have to buy more.
 
In my experience with a whole pita you chomp on a lot of bread, then you reach the big bulge which is bread and fillings, then you end with mostly bread. So halves sound more evenly distributed. Then again maybe I suck at this.
 
Insert more fillings, duh
 
-29
Q: An Error Pops Out

Weyland YutaniI need to sum two integer inputs and print the correct result to the screen. I am told to handle any errors using Exceptionals. I am a C+ and HTML developer but for some reason the client wants the job done in C#. Here is what I have tried so far before an error popped out: class InputOutput {...

^^ Check the revisions.
 
i am the op
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: I an established programmer with an impressive portfolio and important financial clients [c++] [c++11] [c++1y] [c++-faq]
 
2:19 AM
@LucDanton Yeah. A whole pita is a lot of bread. I put a lot of filling into my sandwiches and with half a pita it tastes perfectly fine.
 
> I an established programmer with an impressive portfolio and important financial clients. A top client based overseas is asking for a computer software programme that shall sum two integer inputs and print the correct result to the screen. I am told to handle any errors using Exceptionals.
 
@Mysticial lol I feel like this is a well played joke
 
user3010322
Can I make gists or github impose a line wrap?
 
no
get a text editor
 
user3010322
2:22 AM
Blah.
 
@MarkGarcia Yeah. The guy has 82 answers.
It's an obvious joke.
 
Jokes are supposed to be funny
 
Funny is subjective.
 
unless it's a cold joke
you laugh, then you choke
 
doc
2:56 AM
Electric and gas grills sux... charcoal only.
 
 
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5:09 AM
@Rapptz nice
 
user3010322
5:48 AM
@Rapptz Kinky.
 
user3010322
Do you need inline on variable declarations that appear in a namespace in a header that's included in multiple places?
 
user3010322
Or just const?
 
you can't inline a variable
 
If it isn't const then it should be extern.
 
you can use const, but then it's not a "variable" anymore
 
5:59 AM
Or constexpr I think.
 
static constexpr seems to be common nowadays
> Chapter 7: Wallowing in Filth
 
Yup it's about programming allright
 
@ThePhD Just const.
 
6:19 AM
@Rapptz I've noticed that tag types are often declared as static constexpr. E.g. static constexpr adopt_lock_t adopt_lock in the std namespace.
 
The static is superfluous.
 
Oh wait, it's extern const adopt_lock_t adopt_lock; on this machine (libc++).
 
@StackedCrooked constexpr implies const which implies static in variable declarations.
 
boost asio has enum adopt_lock_t { adopt_lock };
struct adopt_lock_t { };
constexpr defer_lock_t	defer_lock { };
constexpr try_to_lock_t	try_to_lock { };
constexpr adopt_lock_t	adopt_lock { };
^ gcc
 
that doesn't wouldn't compile with clang
 
6:24 AM
I kinda like the enum solution. If it wasn't for the implicit conversion to int.
 
@StackedCrooked Nice for pre-C++11.
 
The constexpr solution is a lot nicer
 
Apparently I didn't post the full libc++ code
struct _LIBCPP_TYPE_VIS defer_lock_t {};
struct _LIBCPP_TYPE_VIS try_to_lock_t {};
struct _LIBCPP_TYPE_VIS adopt_lock_t {};

#if defined(_LIBCPP_HAS_NO_CONSTEXPR) || defined(_LIBCPP_BUILDING_MUTEX)

extern const defer_lock_t  defer_lock;
extern const try_to_lock_t try_to_lock;
extern const adopt_lock_t  adopt_lock;

#else

constexpr defer_lock_t  defer_lock  = defer_lock_t();
constexpr try_to_lock_t try_to_lock = try_to_lock_t();
constexpr adopt_lock_t  adopt_lock  = adopt_lock_t();

#endif
The preferred is apparently constexpr defer_lock_t defer_lock = defer_lock_t();
 
7:07 AM
apparently I'll fly on one of these
The ATR 42 is a twin-turboprop, short-haul regional airliner built in France and Italy by ATR (Aerei da Trasporto Regionale or Avions de transport régional). ATR and some Airbus models have their final assembly in Toulouse, and share resources and technology. The name "42" comes from the aircraft's standard seating, which varies from 40 to 52. The aircraft was the basis for the ATR 72. == Design and development == The ATR 42–300 was announced in 1981, making its maiden flight on 16 August 1984; French and Italian certification followed in September 1985 and its first revenue flight was in December...
looks safe enough
only 23 accidents since 198something
 
@AlexM. I have flown this thrice from Prague to Stuttgart and back. I am still in one piece. :)
 
Not really, '23 hull-losses of ATR 42s'. The accidents where the plane was patched up again afterwards are not included.

Goodbye.
 
that sort of implies the accidents were not that bad
 
@AlexM. Yeah:) Where you off to, and why?
 
7:23 AM
well it's a short flight to the capital (1 hour and 10 mins), was moved to work there for a week
I work in cluj-napoca but technically I have nothing to do with the other people working here
 
@AlexM. Hokay, have fun:)
 
it should be fun :D I'm pretty excited to see all the stuff in that city
 
New and different bars.
 
and lots of stores with computers and games
 
..and that too!
 
7:34 AM
Urgh my bathroom has no window and getting fresh air there is a pain
Goddamn drain cleaner is reacting like crazy
They should include internals with those things
 
@CatPlusPlus At least you don't get ivy, wasps, flies, spiders and moths invading your space. We have to do a bug-sweep every morning in the summer and Raid is as important as Andrex.
 
We have most of those things
At least spiders are relatively harmless (kill all spiders all spiders must die)
 
@CatPlusPlus Not directly into your bathroom:)
 
there was this bug under one of the pans I didn't wash for a week
then when I started washing it it fell off
in water + detergent
 
No, bathroom is mostly attacked by spiders and silverfish
 
7:41 AM
it must have been a painful death
it tried to crawl for a few seconds
fucking bugs
 
Painful death is the only death for bugs
 
yes
 
Kill all bugs
With fire
And/or electricity
And/or blunt force
 
spiders are ok though
 
7:42 AM
usually, if your home has spiders, it means it also has what they eat (i.e. bugs)
 
Every building has those things
All of those things
There is literally no building without these things, and they all must die
 
spiders are ugly tho so if one gets too close to me I kill it :(
 
I panic, run and then throw heavy things at it
 
I did keep a spider as a pet for ~5 months, as long as it stayed in the corner of my room
it ate all of the flies that came through the window lol
but then it climbed onto my desk and I smashed that fucker
I got a cappuccino from the vending machine but I'd describe it as espreccino :(
in any case, it's the worst cappuccino I've had
 
7:56 AM
@CatPlusPlus Especially those goddamn wasps.
 
fucking build process makes the music hang
I hate hdds
 
Get more HDDs.
 
fuck hdds
hdds need to DIE
 
user3010322
@Xeo So, it seems like clang actually doesn't like the overload resolution tricks we put together. A build on sol revealed it actually fails to deduce the return type for a function if you specify the arguments, but not the return type (e.g., you're not using signature-style template arguments): coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/95b71d7b9cac9623
 
They need to IDE.
 
user3010322
7:57 AM
It seems clang can't deduce the return type. Which is.... pretty bananas, actually.
 
Compile in RAM
 
hey
I need C++03 -> C++11 slides
I don't want Meyers' "list every feature"
just the most important ones
 
make them
 
@TonyTheLion that's time consuming. those look promising though
 
> These are examples of an example:
 
8:08 AM
@PolymorphicPotato are you really @rightfold's alter-ego?
 
he is
 
is that confirmed already?
 
afaik
or maybe I missed something
 
leave it unconfirmed #freshstart
 
@AlexM. citation needed
 
user3010322
8:20 AM
Lol.
 
user3010322
I just wasted like 30 minutes trying to make clang try to recognize the overload.
 
user3010322
I can't do it. I leave it to you, Overload Overlord @Xeo.
 
20 hours ago, by Polymorphic Potato
mmmmm?
'nuff said
 
@AlexM. not really
 
@BartekBanachewicz "Still C++"
The end
 
8:23 AM
 
Also for fuck's sake is Zoidberg deleting account again
 
he'll be back, as is customary in such matters
 
You know it was funny the first 2 times maybe, then kinda meh for the next 5 but jesus christ
 
¬_¬ It was never funny
 
8:26 AM
If I were an admin I'd just permaban him on the account of being extremely annoying
 
you assume that he cares about how meh you do or do not find it
 
you assume people care if people care about views held
 
indeed
 
Who would not care about what cat thinks?
 
8:27 AM
@thecoshman lolwat?
 
@TonyTheLion must resist commenting on everything he does with monty python quotes :S
 
Yes it's extremely hard to resist
 
holy hand grenade, lols
 
lol std::iota is C++11?
 
8:31 AM
Yes
 
> It was one of the STL components that were not included in C++98, but eventually made it into the standard library in C++11.
 
@CatPlusPlus hyperbole is the most amazing thing ever!
 
> It was one of the STL components that were not included in C++98, but eventually made it into the standard library in C++11.
 
> visited 602 days, 360 consecutive
5 days to go and it's a year
 
Does StackExchange not have the concept of "cross-site duplicates"?
 
8:41 AM
@Rapptz I've never seen that
 
seen what?
exact cross-site dupes?
 
@Rapptz ... a cross-site duplicate
 
@AlexM. member for 4 (or 5?) years, still not tarred with such a sad mark.
 
Ask Ubuntu is mostly its own thing anyway
 
8:43 AM
top answer of the ubuntu answer is actually copy pasted..
same author, but still
 
@thecoshman I must be addicted or sth
 
> visited 765 days, 724 consecutive
 
dayum
 
Sad life.
 
> 1589 days, 9 consecutive
 
Xeo
8:46 AM
> visited 1284 days, 59 consecutive
 
1284 days, 24 consecutive
 
Xeo
I manage to miss a single day all the time
always after a long consecutive run
 
a new day for me is 8 PM so it's not really hard to be consecutive.
 
Xeo
the reset time is almost irrelevant. as long as you log in once in a 24h period...
 
Does chat count towards that?
 
8:49 AM
yes
 
No
 
hey get this
my ISP offers a free speed increase as long as I go to re-sign the contract for another 12 months
100mbps connections become 200mbps connections (my case)
and 1000mpbs' price is now $13/mo
just $4 more expensive than my 100mbps
 
sounds like a scam
 
I should get gigabit
@Rapptz it can't be since it's on their website
 
ISPs scam all the time here, doesn't matter what it says on their website.
 
8:54 AM
I dunno man
 
well, idk how Romania is
 
doc
 
go for it I suppose
 
hi
 
doc
43TB
 
8:55 AM
ISPs never scam here, because that'd give the others the opportunity to steal clients
I actually get the 100mbps and the internet connection never dropped for me in two years
 
in here ISPs have a type of oligarchy.
so it's kinda shitty
 
people with gigabit don't really get 1000mbps but they've reported it actually oscillates around ~800mbps
which is still great for $15 (now $13)
 
obviously
 
Xeo
@AlexM. dem prices
 
It's really cheap man
 
Xeo
8:56 AM
I pay 30eur for 50mbit :(
 
Does your internet grow on trees?
 
well as I said
I think this offer of theirs (with the speed increase and cheaper internet) is because the other ISP is preparing an offer of their own
and signing the contracts for 12 more months would keep clients tied
 
doc
How many ISPs do you have?
 
2 major ISPs
 
@Xeo 20ish for 250 :v
 
8:58 AM
many tiny ISPs being bought by the major ISPs as we speak
 
man fuck you guys
I'd do anything for $13/month 1gbps
 
it's not really ISP only actually
 
@Rapptz Move to a better country
 
the two companies are RDS-RCS and UPC
 
doc
Who needs such speed...
 
8:59 AM
they both offer internet services, cable TV, mobile phone contracts
and so on
 
All ISPs here are telecom companies.
 
so they kinda compete on all areas
 

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