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6:00 PM
FUUUU~~ ICE in Clang =\
 
@JerryCoffin TIL: Jerry doesn't like his parens.
 
@Griwes it's clang 3.3. I wrote std::initializer_list<int>{(std::cout << ts, 0)...};
 
What are you even doing with Clang 3.3
 
user3010322
Arrgh.
 
user3010322
6:06 PM
Now it's saying I have 2 of the same function.
 
user3010322
y u do dis C++
 
@Griwes It's a part of Emscripten
 
Hah.
 
welp actually it's not that bad since it has full C++11 support.
 
user3010322
My templates don't seem to be working. :<
 
user3010322
6:08 PM
Maybe I need to tag-dispatch.
 
user3010322
But...
 
"0"+!(fl & ZERO_PAD) - from libc\musl\src\stdio\vfwprintf.c
 
user3010322
but but I'm doing ti properly I think. ;~;
 
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6:18 PM
I'm not doing it the remastered ultra clean way
 
user3010322
But it should still be resolving properly!
 
Yeah, right. Just read it.
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes I am. :c I'm using the archaic std::enable_if, albeit I'm defaulting the type, rather than defaulting the the thing with something like a pointer (the ::type* = 0)
 
user3010322
It should work with the typename = typename std::enable_if<blah>::type part, shouldn't it?
 
user3010322
:c
 
user3010322
6:31 PM
Oh. It's considering both as overloads regardless. I need to make lazy evaluation happen.
 
user3010322
I put false and true in place of all the std::enable_if I was doing
 
user3010322
And it was still erroring saying I couldn't have the overload.
 
user3010322
Like one was std::enable_if<false>::type, and the other was std::enable_if<true>::type, and it still blew up.
 
user3010322
6:33 PM
Don't condemn me! ;~;
 
Yes, I do.
You could have read a description of your problem.
 
user3010322
But I'm reading and following the instructions!
 
he's on MSVC don't forget.
 
user3010322
I'm trying it on coliru.
 
Doesn't matter.
What he's trying to do does not work because you can't define the same template twice with different default arguments.
 
6:35 PM
@FredOverflow ...except, of course, for (.)(.). How could anybody not like that? :-)
 
int foo(int x, int y = 17) { return x+y; }
int foo(int x, int y = 23) { return x*y; }
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What Puppy is saying is that it may work on MSVC anyway. :D
 
It won't.
It's not related to two-phase lookup.
(If not related to two-phase lookup, things on MSVC don't work when they should, not the other way around :P)
 
user3010322
I'm not sure I can do the enhanced EnableIf that uses a dummy enum to change things around.
 
user3010322
On MSVC, anways...
 
user3010322
6:39 PM
But!
 
user3010322
I can create a monster.
 
woops.
tests passed: 0, failed: 254.
 
Ship it
 
competitive test results with MSVC.
 
I bet MSVC goes into negative
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what you make of dungeon crawling board games?
 
@thecoshman Haven't played any.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes maybe now's the time to start
from my little experience, they are good fun
and depending on the game it self, could be a good middle ground between short quick games, and more 'full comitment' rpg
 
never played these tabletop dungeon games.
 
Dungeons are best underground, not on a table.
 
6:56 PM
> If I heat my solid state hard drive until it becomes a gaseous state hard drive, would that enable cloud computing?
11
prolly old
 
Butt computing using fart clouds
 
I am farting rather a lot right now.
ate way too much chocolate before my dinner.
 
15 ml of shit is still a fart. Lower for women.
 
I hate sharts
 
7:02 PM
:)
 
shartnado
 
you know the farts that turn out to be wet
lol
 
I rarely get them.
but I do have a real problem whenever I get diarrhoea.
 
@Niall you should move down that arm like twelve pixels in your 48x48 avatar.
 
the part of my brain that says "Don't fart; it's diarrhoea" wakes up after the part that says "I feel pressure on my arse; time to have a good fart"
 
7:04 PM
@Puppy From the way your mom complains about doing your laundry, you do it more often than you realize.
 
user3010322
This is because you spend so much time announcing and congratulating yourself on a good fart.
 
@JerryCoffin Do my own.
 
@Puppy I think diarrhoea is a problem to most people.
 
^ this
 
@TonyTheLion If you live in a developed country then it's mostly just annoying. It's only a real problem if you live in a developing country and can't get enough water/etc.
 
7:05 PM
@Puppy Yes, you should. Takes all the fun out of doing her.
 
@Puppy Yea it is a bigger problem in developing countries
 
Diarrhoea milkshake.
@TonyTheLion What isn't?
 
@PolymorphicPotato Allergies.
 
@PolymorphicPotato my farts
 
@polymorphicpotato, I'll take a look tomorrow at when I'm back at my desk, why though?
Ok, I think I get it, lol
 
7:09 PM
allergy rate in developing countries -> 1 in 1500, in first world countries -> 1 in 3.
 
Also bad-tasting water.
Can't have bad-tasting water when you don't have any water.
 
I have yet to experience any good-tasting water where the taste was predominantly not actually the water.
water only tastes good when you're super super thirsty.
 
@Puppy I always wonder how much of this is real differences in allergy rate, and how much that people who are (for example) starving are a lot less likely to complain when something itches (or whatever). Not saying the allergy rate is really the same, just wondering if circumstances don't exaggerate the difference.
 
@JerryCoffin I think that the people who measured it didn't just use rates of diagnoses, but actively went out and searched for allergies in their sample for "developing nations".
but I didn't do that work myself so can't be sure.
but honestly, it's all being backed up by the new microbiome researches which are providing sound causes for it
 
I don't like that CancellationToken is a struct no sir
 
7:16 PM
Pet hate: people signing off Facebook comments with "All the best: <initials>" FUCK OFF AND DIE
 
I don't like languages which arbitrarily define value and reference types differently.
 
@TonyTheLion o_0 I hope you are on your phone
 
@thecoshman lolwat
 
@PolymorphicPotato obesity
@TonyTheLion you best be having to use your phone because you are on the toilet because you have the 'sharts' and have not become so addicted you have set up a proper computer for use when on the toilet.
 
7:23 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yes, it really is such a pain when people are polite. All the best: tcm
/shower
 
pretty normal
 
pretty and normal
murrica fuck yeah
 
Plot twist: it's in the Netherlands.
 
don't see what murrica has to do with it
 
7:32 PM
Immigrants!
 
ok nm it's in murrica
(dat 1-800 number)
still, if you missed the number, fuck you for amerissuming
 
It's a movie set in the UK.
 
@TonyTheLion hey telkitty why you use tony's acc?
 
Telkitty would just onebox it.
 
oh now I see the difference
 
7:34 PM
no 1-800 in the UK
 
Hello.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit But there would be on the set for a movie set in the US.
:P
 
I don't think that I should have added these tokens everywhere hm
 
7:40 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's the US, or at least, supposed to be.
 
@CatPlusPlus Adding tokens would mean writing code, so no, you probably shouldn't have.
 
Xeo
hoooome
 
X.E. phone ^
ok that was bad :(
 
8:06 PM
right.
so right now I have "Unexpected token after ) at main.wide:2:19-2:20: } at main.wide:3:1-3:2"
Good Enoughâ„¢?
 
Very confusing.
Why are there two filenames and two times "at" in the error?
Oh wait I see now.
How about "main.wide:3:1-3:2: Unexpected } after )"?
I don't see why you'd have to mention the position of the closing parenthesis.
 
hmm
I guess it could be reformatted to put the unexpected thing first.
> Unexpected token: } at main.wide:3:1-3:2 after ) at main.wide:2:19-2:20
 
right.
 
What is the online C++ compiler you guys use to share code?
 
8:14 PM
coliru typically
 
if there's a problem with it then you can just ping the owner
 
@PolymorphicPotato Thanks !
I was like googling all kind of weird variants of coliru :P
 
hmm
somehow, I managed to reduce my parser load by 200 loc whilst fixing the errors up.
 
Ell
Your parser is 200 loc?
 
8:18 PM
no, I cut 200 loc.
 
Ell
Oh yeah
 
haha
 
according to cloc, I have 1900 lines of C++ parser
out of 23,553 lines total.
 
@Puppy hard to read.
 
grr, I wish there was a trivial way to align a YT vid, so I can put a wee chat window on the freed up space
 
8:20 PM
My VM has 103 LOC now.
 
@thecoshman Use VLC.
Ctrl + N -> paste youtube link :p
 
@Rapptz I see...
 
Which is a function to write a field, a function to read a field, a function to get the type of an object and a GC that leaks all objects and never collects anything.
 
for what is ctrl+n a shortcut?
 
New Network Stream
 
8:21 PM
oh...
 
presumably, the link to youtube is a link to an HTML page, not a network stream?
 
The program probably has special handling for YouTube URL.
 
yeah, it does
 
@Puppy indicate only the location of the unexpected token
@R.MartinhoFernandes certainly not
> If you need an optimized code then you should write your own algorithm
lol "an optimized code"
 
8:30 PM
I always find it interesting how whenever Japan is brought up on reddit, they bring up Nanking.
I wonder why it's only Japan and not other countries, e.g.: Soviet Union, Germany, Italy.
 
@Xeo It's actually "two girls three caps"
 
Xeo
@sehe Yeah, that's my complaint with the last pic
 
@Rapptz As in, The Rape of?
 
Yes.
 
honestly, Germany's comparably-recent comparable-scale crimes seem to be brought up pretty often.
 
8:33 PM
I think it's an attempt over showing cleverness at history.
"Bet you didn't know this!" etc
 
well, I guess it's not unexpected for Westerners to focus mostly on Western history.
 
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As I recall, Japan still refuses to apologize or acknowledge the number of people killed in Nanking.
 
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The government, anyhow.
 
China or Korea's participation in WW2 was never mentioned in our history classes, to the best of my memory.
 
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Nanking wasn't mentioned in any of my history classes either.
 
8:34 PM
@ThePhD I don't expect them to apologize, and if they did, it would be pointless.
 
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Too busy wanking of Locke and Rousseau (sp?)
 
@Puppy I'm talking about things like.. On reddit if someone posts a picture of a German cultural aspect, no one will jump and say 'Don't like the Germans, they did the Holocaust'. But if you post something about Japanese culture, The Rape of Nanking will always be brought up.
 
@Rapptz Well, I think that the government denying it probably has something to do with it.
fact is that modern German society very much recognizes that what they did was wrong and they made a lot of effort to make up for that as best they could.
 
@Puppy if by westerners you mean MERCA! then yes
 
@Rapptz aren't those post usually at the very bottom with -1 ratings?
 
8:36 PM
@StackedCrooked Nope.
This one is at +33.
 
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Yeah, contrary to Japan/China relations, Germany apologized and made reparations.
 
@Puppy nor mine, bar maybe saying they provide help/supplies. IIRC they mostly fought on their own front's
 
They're usually up there.
 
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China and Japan (and Korea) argue about the Nanking numbers and the Comfort Women numbers / existence to this day.
 
8:37 PM
@thecoshman American education goes over World War II.
However, we go over Italy, Germany, US, Soviet Union and Britain.
Not Japan, China, Korea, etc.
I mean, Japan is there but we don't go over the specifics.
 
well, I think it was only later that they became part of the same bigger war.
 
@Rapptz surely you love to point out how terrible perl harbor was?
 
as far as I know, prior to Japan bombing Pearl Harbour, it was mostly a separate war.
whereas the war in Europe was including all the European colonies as well as the European powers, so I think their war was substantially bigger.
 
weren't america fairly detached up till then?
 
@thecoshman Discussing Perl Harbor is different than discussing Japanese war relations.
 
8:39 PM
vOv
 
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@thecoshman I remember when the Nuclear Reactor and the Tsunami happened, people just said "Who the fuck feels sorry for the Japanese, remember #PearlHarbor"
 
@thecoshman I heard (vaguely) that some Americans were resisting joining the war even after that.
 
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It's like people conveniently forgot we dropped two atomic bombs already. <_>
 
but honestly
back in WW2 days everybody was a dick.
pretty much the only primary participants I can't name who did a bunch of terrible were the British and French.
and they probably did but I just didn't hear about it.
the really interesting thing is that only Europe seems to have learned their lesson.
 
Am I late for the game jam?
 
8:42 PM
@ThePhD well quite right, two nuclear bombs over mostly non-military targets hardly a fair reaction to a fairly sound tactical target on a military base. And no, I'm not going to argue justification of the bombs
 
@Jefffrey I don't think anyone participated.
 
user3010322
It already happened?
 
Did Bartek?
 
That's sad
 
no, I think it unhappened.
couldn't arrange the times.
considering that he tried to arrange it like randomly 1 day before it's no surprise.
 
8:43 PM
Yeah Bartek was bad at organising.
and he's been drunk every day
4
 
ITT @BartekBanachewicz has a problem
 
Amazing
@Jefffrey I guess I didn't organize it well enough alright
Point taken
 
*takes swig*
 
I kind of hoped that everyone interested will just show up but since they didn't, I'll make a doodle and sign up list next time
 
inb4 RFC to decide whether the next game jam will be the #4 or the #5
7
 
8:47 PM
I am not here next weekend so probably two weeks from now
 
lmao
I vote for #4.
 
Me too
 
it's #5 clearly
 
#4 didn't happen
 
user3010322
4 is associated with Death in Japan.
 
8:48 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Not even you showed up!
 
So it's 4
 
it was arranged, it failed.
 
It didn't fail
 
hint: re: PHP 6
 
I vote for #5 too.
 
user3010322
8:48 PM
4.1 !
 
user3010322
Windows style.
 
Making it #5 will just make it painfully obvious that this one failed
 
din't be stupid, you can't have '.1' of a jam
 
If that's what you want then fine
 
@BartekBanachewicz so you admit it did fail!!!!
 
8:49 PM
I vote we rename the current game jam 'The 4th Not-So-Great Lounge Game Jam' instead.
 
Let's put it that way
I was coding a game during that time
 
user3010322
I vote #4 because when I apply to japanese companies I can put talk about teh fourth game jam and use Bad Japanese as an excuse for saying Death.
 
And you didn't even show up to tell people about the time?
 
And coding games for fun is all that matters
I didn't because it wasn't a jam game
I would if a single person asked
 
did you just steal this online
or did you make this?
 
8:50 PM
Pardon me for not doing everything including sending personal reminders
@Rapptz its on CC license
 
I think the logo is pretty.
 
What a conspiracy. The newest things starred have 4 stars.
 
@BartekBanachewicz if you're going to organise it, organise it.
 
Anyway I can only say that I will prepare better next time
 
@BartekBanachewicz I would have taken part if someone had showed up here in the Lounge to say "Game jam starts now!"
 
8:52 PM
Okay
Again point taken.
 
I think he got it.
 
We could postpone the current Game Jam to next week.
Though we'd have to do something about the times.
 
Let's set up a doodle.
 
@Rapptz like change them?
 
Do you guys actually want a 4-hour game jam?
I liked the other game jams where we had votes about these things
 
8:53 PM
I think with democracy we are not able to do shit.
 
Democracy sucks because morons get to vote too!
 
There are no morons in the lounge, silly.
 
user3010322
:3c
 
Well.
2 hour game jam - successful,
5 hour game jam - successful,
24 hour game jam - failure,
4 hour game jam - failure
 
Just have 1 guy being responsible, and let him decide a random hour. If more than half are not able to participate, then roll a die and change the hour again.
 
8:56 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Making it #4 didn't make it painfully obvious that #3 failed? :V
 
I think there's an analogy about network protocols that I'm failing to state.
 
vOv maybe jams have to be numbers in base three?
 
Robot was in it - successful,
Robot was in it - successful,
Robot was not in it - failure,
Robot was not in it - failure
:P
 
Made rats full success
No rats all failure
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes If you replace Robot with me, it's the same!
 
8:57 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes so it's your fault!
 
@Jefffrey "dice" is plural. If it's only one, you "roll a die" (though few use the singular of "dice", apparently due to the old dictum: "never say die").
 
I see
 
@JerryCoffin you mean a few uses due to people being stupid and wrong?
 
I've started playing with MUDs and Telnet and I'm still at it so I don't fit the jam
 
@Rapptz Also the same.
 
8:58 PM
I begin to see a pattern.
 
@thecoshman I think I said what I meant (and vice versa).
 
People participated - successful,
People participated - successful,
People did not participate - failure,
People did not participate - failure
 
@Jefffrey that no one attended the jams that failed? :P
 
How about an unjam
 
@Jefffrey coincidence
@CatPlusPlus peanut butter?
 
8:59 PM
Throw some ideas and make the deadline the end of the month
 

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