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3:00 PM
hey, I'm not a mobile device
I may move from place to place (usually to get food) but I'm most certainly not a device
 
There. Another LaTeX poster done.
 
@AlexM. I read 100% of the first book and didn't like it. I finally found another.
 
@AlexM. Marketing: the art of saying "you're a tool" in a way that makes you think it's a compliment
 
@ParkYoung-Bae I missed it -.-
@AlexM. I know that name
ahhhh the fucks took it off Spotify
it was one of the Sweet Love remixes, I think
 
3:18 PM
yes
this one
 
yeah ok the original then. so good
SO good.
 
that and this youtube.com/watch?v=mxIHGSFWAWE are the only songs by the guy that I know of
 
when they take songs off Spotify, Spotify goes through phases of hiding them from your playlist entirely. it's annoying because then you don't know what you've lost. they undid that a few versions ago and now done it again it seems
I wondered why I hadn't heard it for a while ^_^
anyway, you goat herders are pretty good at music, I'll give you that
 
I think think je t'aime sounds a bit better than sweet love
but both are good and were very popular at release
btw @lrio, remembered about this: youtube.com/watch?v=nudN1nV6t40
BBC played manele once
manele is the same thing Denisa sings
IIRC you like her too
 
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A: How to derive parameters from a lambda expression?

Rüdiger StevensHow about template<typename L, typename... Args> void callthistemp(L const &func, Args&&... args) { func(std::forward<Args>(args)...); } There is no need to wrap your lambda into a (sometimes expensive) std::function when using templates. (expensive means that it may use heap allocations whi...

spank my answer if it's wrong, but please, spank this "OH MY GOD, A DYNAMIC ALLOCATION" guy.
 
3:29 PM
fuck you @alex it's on loop now
 
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oh noes~
what's on loop?
 
@Puppy I'm not getting involved in your bitchfight!
@AlexM. Sweet Love
haven't even got to your next video yet
 
I'm fine with that
 
time to get my ass back home
 
3:33 PM
@AlexM. alwight u lot#
 
user1804599
@ParkYoung-Bae I am offended and you are a racist.
 
菜單
 
shut up you infidel
 
Evening
 
pahaha that's hilarious
oh fffuck he's here
 
user1804599
 
wat
Yes.
 
I don't even wanna know.
 
3:38 PM
I see lightness is in a tag-spree.
 
It's an popular meme
A old one even
 
user1804599
@Bartek those Haskell-like languages that compile to JS.
 
user1804599
Do they also provide dynamic typing?
 
How...
 
user1804599
For example property :: a -> String -> a.
 
3:43 PM
Part of the beauty of Haskell is the static type system.
 
user1804599
Yes, and part of decent JS interop is a dynamic type system.
 
Abomination.
 
user1804599
Indeed. But it is there and has to be dealt with.
 
user1804599
I may try PureScript but I already see they misspelled “JavaScript” on their homepage so I don’t expect too much of it.
 
lol
 
user1804599
3:46 PM
foreign import data Random :: !

foreign import random
  "function random() { \
  \  return Math.random(); \
  \}" :: Eff (random :: Random) Number
 
user1804599
This seems kinda reasonable.
 
user1804599
But will still be a pain when dealing with libraries like Google Maps since a lot has to be wrapped.
 
user1804599
Although maybe it is possible to write a function (^) :: a -> String -> a that accesses a property. But it will probably not play nice WRT side-effects.
 
4:01 PM
 
@rightfold Terribly unsafe
Haskell has Typeable and Dynamic for that
 
@Abyx screw you
@Abyx same reason :)
 
Drama thickens
I'm eating pizza
WITH KETCHUP
 
@Sp3c7r00M you're welcome
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus YOU MONSTER
 
4:14 PM
Mayonnaise is where it's at.
 
You guys make me sick.
Nutella Pizza is where it's at.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the Romanian part of the video can essentially be summarized as
"look at the british playing manele as if this is the best thing we have, our country sucks, we suck"
> Women should not laugh in public, Turkish deputy PM says hurriyetdailynews.com/…
he must have meant women are only allowed to laugh in public if they laugh at him
 
@EtiennedeMartel Mayonnaise de Dijon. Vous avez ça ?
Thrama Dickens would make an OK nickname
 
also @LightnessRacesinOrbit if you like sweet love that much it's impossible not to find other great similar tracks in this mix youtube.com/watch?v=d6v5hH1qJRU
it's my personal favorite
spoiler: it also contains sweet love
 
@AlexM. teehee
@AlexM. teehee
@Jefffrey wtf
> Please connect me by email.
 
Xeo
4:28 PM
Hm, I should head home
it's 6:30
 
man didn't listen to that vid in a long time
I'm not a huge fan of that kind of music but the guy who mixed those tracks sure managed to put everything I like in it
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What kind of email connection you'd like ?
 
@quantdev I'd like to connect your head with the pavement, if that's okay. Does SMTP support that?
 
Yes it does. Let me ask Sasho, it should be fine.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yes it does. Let me ask Sasho, it should be fine. -.-
 
So there's that video of people shooting other people in the head on YouTube and I can't find a valid report reason
Violence between adults?
 
4:31 PM
@quantdev Ok :)
@ParkYoung-Bae close as too broad
 
@ParkYoung-Bae Show th code
 
got my new card today
it's so white and pretty
it makes the others I had look plain and ugly
 
@AlexM. racist
 
lol
> BOOM! First Japanese-made jRPG drops on GOG.com and it's a real classic: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky! Get it 15% off for the first week.
YAY
> buy for $16.99
you save $3.00
NOPE
I'll buy it when it's $3
the art isn't even kawaii
 
user2953119
Hi everyone!
 
4:35 PM
what kind of JRPG is this
 
user2953119
Is coliru.stacked-crooked down?
 
Yes, it seems so /cc @StackedCrooked
 
@DmitryFucintv is it working?
 
@ParkYoung-Bae he mentioned something about this today
 
Yes I remember vaguely
 
4:37 PM
he received an email from his hosting company saying there were some outages or something
 
user2953119
@thecoshman It seems, no
 
@ParkYoung-Bae I swear that poor guy gets pinged almost exclusively for coliru
 
5 hours ago, by StackedCrooked
> This message is to inform you that the host that your cloud server 'stacked-crooked' resides on has alerted our monitoring systems as of 11:14 UTC. We are currently investigating the issue and will update you as soon as we have additional information regarding what is causing the outage.
 
@DmitryFucintv must be down then
 
@StackedCrooked BUTTS
 
user2953119
4:38 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Thanks
 
@thecoshman there you go
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oty, any other update in the meantime?
 
@ParkYoung-Bae not that I've seen
pretty impressive outage tbh
 
Is it his server only? Or
 
@ParkYoung-Bae unlikely, unless it's already fixed upstream and he now needs to restart services or something
 
there's this interesting feature my bank has; if I pay my bills through them, 2% of the bills' value goes into my economy account
considering the average values of my bills, I'd get $50+ per year just for doing this
 
+ 6% per year because it's the economy account, that's $53+
@LightnessRacesinOrbit no, I am not going to be affected by your beauty like the other inferior males are
 
> Israelis in Tel Aviv chanting, “There’s no school tomorrow, there’s no children left in Gaza! Oleh!”
 
Xeo
4:44 PM
@AlexM. What kinds of bills?
Like, does rent count?
 
nah, rent is not exactly a bill
 
Xeo
aw
 
it's a personal payment I make to my landlord
 
Xeo
so, what else?
 
electricity, natural gas, internet, cable TV etc.
unfortunately water doesn't count because it's included in the maintenance costs for the apartment block
and I pay that to the administrator directly
 
4:46 PM
@AlexM. oh. ok :(
> water doesn't count
indeed, water quantity is typically uncountable
wow, lots of wrongness on that Triangle question
I might give it a go later if I get bored and nobody's beaten me to it
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit dat align="center"
 
I think I used <center> on my site at first
also yum lemon pepsi
 
<center align="right">
3
 
The <center> cannot hold
 
4:52 PM
so. How are locations usually stored in the database?
 
Isn't there a zip function in C++?
 
@Crow locations?
 
user1804599
@Crow ambiguously.
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey no.
 
table(id, description, lat, long) I'd guess
or something like that
 
user1804599
4:53 PM
@AlexM. PostGIS coordinate type nub. :P
 
what's postgis
 
user1804599
GIS for PostgreSQL.
 
> PostGIS is a spatial database extender for PostgreSQL object-relational database. It adds support for geographic objects allowing location queries to be run in SQL
 
@Jefffrey boost
 
4:53 PM
@AlexM. so say for example someone says an address like 123 fake street, Boston, MA. Should it be parsed to latitude or longtitude or something and put in the database as a tuple?
 
guess I should port myself to the hotel now
got a whole night of Lounging ahead of me wheeeeee
bbiab
 
@rightfold BUT
 
user1804599
BUTT
 
what if he isn't using postgresql
@Crow I dunno man depends on what you want to do lol
if you only want to store addresses for a phonebook or something, you don't even need lat and long
 
@Jefffrey Boost has a zip iterator.
 
4:54 PM
if you want to, say, query google maps
including anything other than lat and long is superfluous, unless duplicated locations can exist (two diff things at same location)
 
I wanna use google maps so I guess that answers that
 
email from greenmangaming
> El Presidente, we have some great deals for you this week. No please, please don't put us down the hole again, these are honestly great deals, we promise!
yeah it's a Tropico reference but still
they got it right, I generally just delete emails and never give a shit about them
lol
 
@JerryCoffin I see. /cc @ParkYoung-Bae
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin ew iterators :P
 
user3010322
wtb zip_range.
 
user3010322
4:59 PM
I wish you could multi-reply.
 
user3010322
So you could like ping 3 or 4 messages directly.
 
Xeo
Boost.Range's combine adaptor is undocumented, but there
 
user3010322
Looks pretty documented to me.
 
Xeo
?
 
can google maps query for certain types of locations? Eg, museums
 
5:00 PM
weeeeeeeeeeerks
 
Xeo
It's not in the Range Adaptors references
 
Finally
 
sometime ago I made these icons for an experiment, and I was expecting to be downloaded by many since there are not many alternatives on OGA opengameart.org/content/weather-icons
then I released these placeholders done by one of my ex-team mates while I was working on one of my games opengameart.org/content/3d-mine-assets
all fared below expectations
what became popular? this crap: opengameart.org/content/programmer-art-racing
that I drew in just a couple of minutes
and is butt ugly
 
Newsflash: Somebody told another person on the internet to fuck off:
 
Xeo
5:11 PM
Consider how frequently each type of iconset is needed
 
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Q: Downvoting: Is there a difference between ones right and arbitrary punishment?

SammayeI understand the users right to downvote whatever the reason but I have experienced something recently that has made me wonder whether there is a boundary between right and abuse. Basically I feel hard done by because of this (a.k.a poor me). The item in question is right here: mongodb group by...

 
@Mysticial lol what a drama
 
@ParkYoung-Bae On a de la moutarde de Dijon.
 
Oui ça oui
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit why are you surprised?
 
5:19 PM
@EtiennedeMartel that is good
though not exactly as spicy as I'd like my mustard to be
still, dijon mustard is an ingredient in honey mustard
 
@SamDeHaan Expected 32-bit alignment and I can't remember why
 
which is godlike
 
@AlexM. Is it imported from france? Because you know, Dijon Mustard in some countries (USA) == ketchup
 
most likely from France, let me search for the brand
I got a sampler from the Good Food magazine (BBC)
and from then on I kept on buying
 
@ParkYoung-Bae uhh, no?
 
5:21 PM
yes it's from France: maille.com/home.dept
 
@EtiennedeMartel Mayonnaise de Dijon c'est de la mayo légèrement mélangée à de la moutarde (c'est très bon)
@SamDeHaan uhh, yes
 
Maille
 
@ParkYoung-Bae being from 'murica, Dijon Mustard =/= ketchup.
 
of course not
Dijon Mustard is green-ish yellow
ketchup is red
 
@SamDeHaan I meant to say the taste is toned down compared to the original (why do I have to explain, sigh)
 
5:22 PM
Ketchup is that Heinz bullshit.
@AlexM. That's about the only brand of Dijon mustard you see here.
 
this is the best mustard
it's so spicy it causes raw pain
at least to me
I laugh at silly ketchup makers who try to call their ketchups "spicy"
 
@ParkYoung-Bae because you're wrong? I mean, yeah, if you buy a shitty brand, you get a shitty product, but you can easily find painful dijon mustard.
 
@SamDeHaan I'm not wrong, sorry
Too bad you'll never reach the truth
 
Xeo
Ugh, Minecraft login server are down :<
 
@EtiennedeMartel must be a monopoly or something
 
5:24 PM
Amurican underling
 
actually, the name itself is trademarked, right?
like, how parmigiano reggiano is
 
No it's not trademarked
Dijon is just the name of the city
 
you're not allowed to make parmigiano reggiano outside of the region and w/o papers
 
@AlexM. That's not a trademark btw
 
@ParkYoung-Bae rah rah guns and freedom
 
5:25 PM
@SamDeHaan go away
 
@ParkYoung-Bae well it's something
 
@AlexM. It's not that something either
 
what is it then
 
gah wifi slow today. tonight's gonna be painful
 
@ParkYoung-Bae plink.
 
5:25 PM
I r the backs
 
@AlexM. It's nothing. It's just the name. Anyone can use it freely.
 
how can it be nothing lol
it's a protected name
 
It's not
 
lol wtf
> Under Italian law, only cheese produced in these provinces may be labelled "Parmigiano-Reggiano", and European law classifies the name, as well as the translation "Parmesan", as a protected designation of origin.
 
I'm talking about Moutarde de Dijon you silly
 
5:26 PM
Where's the patch I need a break
 
@AlexM. Interestingly, such designations are ignored in the US, IIRC.
So you can buy something that's called "Champagne" despite not coming from there.
 
But moutarde de dijon has no designation anyway
> L'appellation « Moutarde de Dijon » n'est pas une appellation d'origine contrôlée, si bien que le terme n'est pas juridiquement protégé.
 
@ParkYoung-Bae yeah for that one you're right
> "Dijon mustard" is not a protected food name; while there remain mustard factories in Dijon and adjoining towns, most mustard described as "Dijon" is manufactured elsewhere. Even that produced in France is made almost exclusively from Canadian mustard seed.
 
@CatPlusPlus It usually comes out much later like in 1h
 
@EtiennedeMartel in Romanian we call any sparkling wine "sampanie" (read almost like champagne), but you don't see that name in stores, obviously
they're marketed as "sparkling wines"
probably because of that
 
5:28 PM
Exactly.
 
A geographical indication (GI) is a name or sign used on certain products which corresponds to a specific geographical location or origin (e.g. a town, region, or country). The use of a GI may act as a certification that the product possesses certain qualities, is made according to traditional methods, or enjoys a certain reputation, due to its geographical origin. == History == Governments have been protecting trade names and trademarks used in relation to food products identified with a particular region since at least the end of the nineteenth century, using laws against false trade descriptions...
 
In Korea we call it 샴페인
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Is this for real
 
hmph
more laws for idiots to associate value with things that have none.
 
@Puppy This shit again?
You really should stop with the "If it's not good for me it's good for nobody" bullshit.
 
he posted it, I didn't
 
5:33 PM
I'm talking about your reaction to it.
 
@EtiennedeMartel There are a few such names that have fallen into such generic use that you're allowed to misuse them here, but they really are fairly few, and they've been trying to clean it up over the last few decades as well. For example, for quite a while "Canadian Bacon" was treated as a generic term, but they've started to enforce calling it "Canadian-style bacon" unless it's actually from Canada.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I guess that it's too logical that if you have a process in place A and you replicate the process in place B, you get the same results. It's only our entire scientific method, which built our entire modern society, that is predicated on this principle.
 
Oh god this restaurant
> Duo de carambar 6.50 €
Is this a joke
 
I guess it's totally my own opinion that a geographical location is meaningless.
never mind all those scientists who replicate experiments in other locations.
 
@Puppy That's the thing: the process isn't really replicated.
 
5:34 PM
they're just subjective bastards who have no understanding of anything.
 
In most case, it's just an approximate replication, and they then slap the name on it because of name recognition.
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's mostly because of silly ~~trade secrets~~ than location though
Location is really just a shorthand for creating a brand
 
what a good gameplay commentator, trying to comment on watch dogs' vehicle handling: "the driving is... well Ubisoft is known for... I'm not sure what other driving games they've done"
quality
 
@CatPlusPlus Sometimes, geography has an impact on the final product.
We're talking about growing food here.
 
It's also environment, sunlight hours, local soil composition, local water composition...
 
5:36 PM
You can't just replicate any environmental condition.
 
@Puppy For some things that makes a great deal of sense. For others (e.g., wines) much less, simply because we lack the resources to precisely replicate the climate, soil, etc., across widely separated locations.
 
@ParkYoung-Bae whyy
 
@CatPlusPlus Because there's always some issues with deployment
 
They suck
 
Yes they are terrible
I love their megaserver system though
 
5:37 PM
oh for fuck's sake. my email server has been silently discarding some mail that it's supposed to forward to an @hotmail.com address cos relay. at least bloody alert me! and now I'm not sure how to fix it and to make it reject instead of discard. grr.
 
Running email servers is worse than suicide
Which daemon is it?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Have you tried algorithms
3
 
Hmmm, the PE optional header is actually required
 
mmm no
 
@Mr.kbok Yes. It's optional for COFF files in general, but mandatory for PE files.
 
5:40 PM
only exes even
 
Oh, I see
This is COFF terminology
 
class COFF { virtual bool has_optional() = 0; };
class PE : public COFF { bool has_optional() { return true; } };
 
@JerryCoffin Depends on exactly which climate or soil conditions you're talking about. Not to mention that if they're actually relevant, then you'd think that the law should be defined in terms of them, and not some random geographic location that happens to hold them. I find it hard to believe that if you're in Champagne 100km east of Paris that you have a clearly distinct climate to being 90km east of Paris.
 
@Puppy No but the soil is actually distinct
 
> Moscow may walk out of nuclear treaty after US accusations of breach
dis gon be fun
 
5:48 PM
clearly, it should be legally impossible, therefore, for some smart person to add a chemical to their soil that would replicate the problem, and the distinct soil clearly happens to exactly match historical political boundaries
 
@ParkYoung-Bae :(
> You have some impressive experience, your role at <X> looks particularly interesting.
yeah particularly since I've only ever been at <X>
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Auto generated
 
^ careers.SO
 
@ParkYoung-Bae as if they didn't nuclear stuff before this
 
@ParkYoung-Bae not really, no
@ParkYoung-Bae duhs
 
5:49 PM
@Puppy True to an extent--clearly you end up with some rather arbitrary lines being drawn. 10 km may actually make a lot of difference, but if you draw lines at all, you end up with two things that may be only a few meters apart that end up on opposite sides of the line.
 
not to mention the possible impacts of climate change on which regions have which growing conditions.
if you do state that certain environmental conditions are key, then you should accept any region that contains them, and reject regions that no longer have them, and clearly define what conditions are key.
 
Yes because humans are known for their flawless logic and cartesian thinking
 
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A: One line answers

Patrick HofmanAn answer is an answer. Even if one line is enough.

^^ aha
 
well, they should at least be able to do better than sign pure stupidity and historical masturbation into law
 
@Puppy The problem (or one problem, anyway) is that the names predate certainty about exactly which conditions are key (in fact, in some cases nobody yet really knows exactly which conditions are key).
 
5:57 PM
Question: It is "legal" to placement new a class/struct of PODs and never call the destructor? By "legal" I mean, it won't leak memory. This is safe on all current compilers, but I was curious about the standardese.
 
I love that this is a one line answer. — ydaetskcoR yesterday
This kills the joke
@Mysticial I think so
I don't remember anything stating that every call to a constructor must have a matching call to a destructor
That would be kinda useless
 
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Q: Would there be any drawback in introducing students to `std::addressof` together with `operator&`?

burton0I'm a TA in an introductory course to programming, where we teach C++11. In particular, My part is about the basics of memory management (value vs. reference semantics, storage duration, automatic vs. dynamic objects, etc.). Quite predictably, students find this part to be quite though (for the...

 

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