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7:00 PM
@FredOverflow Can you summarize the most important points? I am too lazy to watch Herb talking about the features that MSVC implemented 2 years too late, again.
 
eh I feel that they're moving reasonably fast now
they just took a while to get started
 
@bamboon I haven't seen the video yet. I just stumbled upon it a couple of minutes ago, and now I am waiting for the download to finish.
 
@FredOverflow well, let me know :P
 
> Every major ISV uses 98C++. Adding Concurrent features into C++ is not part of the philosophy of Imperative Architecture. You're wasting your time learning anything other than 97/98! Java is for most. .NET is for experts. C++ is for end-of-your-life. Get a clue!
 
@DeadMG Well yeah, it probably got better but late is still late
 
7:06 PM
I stopped complaining when Microsoft implemented variadic templates.
 
@FredOverflow I just stopped using Microsoft products
 
Then why do you care about a C++ talk by Herb Sutter at all?
 
@FredOverflow Erb, because there are times when Herb doesn't only talk about MS
like his concurrency talk from some time ago
 
atomic weapons? :)
 
@FredOverflow Probably, can't remember the name
 
7:10 PM
A B
 
@FredOverflow yep, that's it
especially in the end when you only understand station
 
You mean "that are them"? It's a two-parter ;)
@bamboon Are you German? lol
 
@FredOverflow sure ;)
 
Ich kann mir nie merken, wer hier Deutsch ist und wer nicht :)
 
hi
 
7:12 PM
My dear Mr. singing club (Mein lieber Herr Gesangsverein)
 
@FredOverflow Doesn't matter anyway, C++ unites us all
@FredOverflow haha, translating German sayings is best
 
@bamboon Will you be at the Lounge meeting? I forgot where and when it was, but I'm pretty sure it is real.
@bamboon There becomes yes the dog in the pan crazy!
 
@FredOverflow I would love to come, however I am currently doing an internship and such can't come.
@FredOverflow the yes threw me off several times
 
@bamboon I believe me kicks a horse!
Jan 10 at 13:44, by thecoshman
Berlin meetup June 7th? The 7th because it is a saturday and prime.
 
@FredOverflow might need to check whether there are some cheap easyjet flights
 
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7:24 PM
@ScarletAmaranth To make shadows (hard shadows: real ambient / diffuse shadows are hard), I just cast a single ray from the point of intersection towards the light.
 
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The origin is always the place of intersection.
 
@ThePhD Towards the light? Are you writing a religious ray-tracer?
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Praise Carmack! \o/
 
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Hm.
 
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7:31 PM
I guess my template method is too big
 
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the VC++ Debugger refuses to show me anything when I explicitly ask for it
 
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but it can show me it in the regular watch window
 
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Visual Studio. ;~;
 
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@ScarletAmaranth So my refractions and reflections still come out like poop. Not sure what to do. /cc @Borgleader
 
@ThePhD from what point of intersection?
 
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7:35 PM
@ScarletAmaranth Where your ray hits your object.
 
user3010322
Shadows are cast by shooting a ray from the object you hit towards light sources.
 
@ThePhD aaah, interesting; so you just check whether the lightsource directly illuminates it?
 
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Yes.
 
but that's not too... "correct"; is it?
 
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It's for hard shadows only
 
7:36 PM
@JohanLarsson That's not exactly new.
 
What is the best day to add a bounty?
 
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Softer shadows either require fudging this technique or doing some completely different BRDF shit.
 
Most traffic days in other words?
 
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Also WHY WON'T MY SPHERES REFRACT q________q
 
@ThePhD I'll end up doing completely different BRDF shit : - /
 
7:37 PM
@ThePhD Template method is a Design pattern. You probably mean member function template.
 
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@FredOverflow Yeah, probably.
 
I finally had the time to get glossy materials working
(I'm horrible at making scenes :D)
 
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hdjkwdhw SEE
 
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SEE YOURS WORKS WHY DOESN'T MINE WORK HUUH?
 
@ScarletAmaranth You should get help from a woman. They're experts at making scenes.
 
7:40 PM
@FredOverflow yeah don't even mention women : - / I think I may be in love; for the first time in my life; and it sucks
 
@ScarletAmaranth How old are you?
 
@FredOverflow 20
 
Then stop tracing rays and start tracing chicks.
 
Don't be me
 
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Oh.
 
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7:41 PM
This reminds me.
 
@FredOverflow is on a pun streak today
 
user3010322
So the lady I was talking to before about the gift thing ended up sending me a gift.
 
What gift?
 
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She's hinted that there are now several gifts en-route, and she won't give me the tracking numbers, so I'll never know when they arrive.
 
@ThePhD How long is the route?
 
7:42 PM
@ThePhD I'm surprised it works myself; it's based on my shaky math and BRDFs
 
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I knew I should have went with my dress plan. Now there's more shit heading my way than I can possible imagine.
 
I'm going out so really DON'T BE ME I'll be drunk later
 
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@FredOverflow I don't know! I don't have th tracking numbers, but they're coming from out of my state; possible even outside my country since they can arrive anywhere between now and two weeks from now.
 
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I sure hope it's just some kind of weird action figure and not something really expensive. =/
 
Who is this woman? Where do you know here from?
 
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7:45 PM
She's a person who I lost contact with two years ago when I transferred colleges.
 
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Out of the blue, some months ago, she sent an e-mail to me wanting to get back in touch.
 
Maybe she dreamed of you.
 
user3010322
I resisted the gravity of the e-mail for a month or so, but eventually caved and sent a reply back.
 
And now she's all horny and sends you her underwear.
 
user3010322
If it's her underwear, I'm burning it.
 
7:46 PM
Are you attracted to her?
 
user3010322
Back in college, I was. She actually asked me out, but -- and this is something I only realized a year and a half later -- I didn't realize she asked me out and I had said no. Like, 3 times.
 
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I had kind of squashed the feeling because I knew a relationship since I was transferring and always on the move wasn't the best thing. Plus, I'd never had a relationship of this magnitude before; I certainly didn't want to try for it and maybe even push for something long distance.
 
So, I posted in meta again
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Q: Is Brian Wood advertising is product acceptible?

seheI noticed quite a number of posts where someone would advertise an alternative serialization library, since I more or less follow the boost-serialization tag. Just now, I got another one: Packing struct in Boost Asio buffer, and decided to have a look. To my surpise, this user http://stackoverf...

 
@ThePhD What exactly did she ask you?
 
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Hence my departure and subsequent utter silence (though it wasn't just her; I disconnected with everyone).
 
user1804599
7:48 PM
lol at HTML spec
 
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> It must be admitted that many aspects of HTML appear at first glance to be nonsensical and inconsistent.
 
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@FredOverflow We were both in the Computer Lab. She asked if I wanted to go out for Lunch. I was like "No, are you kidding me? We've got work to do!" Which was true ( She was building her own walking talking robot at the time. She's a legendary programmer; I look up to her).
 
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She then asked again "Well, how about dinner?" I gave the same response.
 
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Then she said "I mean, do you wanna go out?"
 
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I still thought she was referring to going out to eat or having a good time. "I'm not really into going out; plus I've got a lot of shit to do."
 
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7:49 PM
"No I mean... do you wanna go out?"
 
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At that point, I was kind of laughing. "Cmon, I already said no, we've got work to do!"
 
what windows version do you guys recommend if you have to use windows?
7 or 8.1 ?
 
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I'm pretty sure I've reached a Grade A point of idiocity at that point.
 
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She didn't ask again after that.
 
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Only after fully explaining the conversation to my brother did he laugh at me and tell me I wasn't turning down dinner. I was turning down an actual girlfriend.
 
user3010322
7:52 PM
Thankfully! It was for the better. After everything that happened in the last 2 years, a relationship would have become volatile or just downright caustic. I know I wasn't in a good place, so perhaps it was good I said no.
 
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And the feeling of liking her kind of passed.... right up until I got that e-mail.
 
user3010322
Ever since then, it's been like a steady, slow gravitational pull.
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb 7
 
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@JohannesSchaub-litb Definitely 7.
 
i wonder whether support for it won't be closed soon
 
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7:53 PM
Probably not.
 
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XP died and Vista might go soon, but 7 is there to stay for a good while.
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb not for a while
 
is it also better for games?
 
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:O Borgleader's avatar changed!
 
7:54 PM
@JohannesSchaub-litb I'm actually on WinXP at the moment and it's rock solid :)
 
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@JohannesSchaub-litb Way better.
 
32 whole bits!
 
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Using Windows XP locks you out of DX10 and DX11 games unless you do hacky manual unsupported platform updates.
 
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Windows XP has a 64-bit OS and mode, but again. Not the greatest experience.
 
i have a windows 7 ISO file that is 2 years old
can i install it and then afterwards patch it with updates?
 
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7:55 PM
Yep.
 
or should i better install a new windows iso file?
 
user3010322
Doesn't change
 
user3010322
You'll get the same slew of updates.
 
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Now, something you'll also NOT want to do because it's totally illegal and you should never do something like it
 
user3010322
7:56 PM
is to find something called the Windows 7 Loader by DaZ. It's completely illegal and horrible and you should not download it and use it ever under any circumstances.
 
@ThePhD Not enough minerals!
 
@ThePhD i'm an MSDNAA student so i have free access legal :D
 
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That filthy scumbag has made it all the way to version 2 and is a dirty pirate enabling whorish cheater that undermines the great values of capitalism and free market and paying honest developers for what they want.
 
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@JohannesSchaub-litb Well, good: work in the system, don't be like DaZ who created the Windows 7 Loader.
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb I wish I still was :( Now I won't be able to get Visual Studio for free T_T
 
7:59 PM
@JohannesSchaub-litb Hey, the real litb from usenet? I have used your code. :-)
 
lol
usually i'm known for stackoverflow not for usenet xD
 
This kind of made me laugh a bit today:
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A: Data structure for storing very large 2D data in C++

HostileForkCheck out Nstate. It is a library for Packed Arrays for an arbitrary radix (so tristates qualify). http://nstate.hostilefork.com Disclaimer: I wrote nstate.

 
@ThePhD That's a weird figure of speech, going out. What exactly does it mean? Going somewhere not home, once? Date over a prolonged period of time? Be together?
 
I wrote that years ago
 
8:01 PM
Wonder if anyone else will actually use it? I'll fall out of my chair if I get a PR
 
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@FredOverflow It's apparently a colloquialism. Like "we're talking" and "we're seeing each other".
 
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I never understood any of it. ._.
 
But nice to meet you. I do actually have live code from you.
 
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But yeah, this kind of gravity thing is really hitting me right in the stomach.
 
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It's the worst. It invades my thoughts while I program and shit.
 
8:02 PM
You should probably just get it over with and do her.
So you can finally concentrate on coding again.
 
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I think that'd make it exponentially worse.
 
@FredOverflow "going out" is all part of the odd 50s stuff like "going steady" to me... dinosaur stuff.
 
O(2^n) sex?
 
Haha @FredOverflow
"Must focus on coding, must focus on coding..."
 
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What I'm hoping is that she just wants to be friends, and I'm actually planning on talking to her soon and just telling her point blank that I like her.
 
8:03 PM
@ThePhD Telling women point blank is boring. Only do it if you absolutely don't want a relationship.
 
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She should shoot me down, and so rather than nurture this hope I can let it die by her words.
 
Eh, wear a leather jacket and smoke a cigarette and say "I don't care about anything" and they'll be all over you
It's actually that easy
 
@HostileFork what code are you using?
lol
don't you know i have troll bugs in my codes
 
@JohannesSchaub-litb Hm, what was it... it's a safe cast of some kind
I do luvz the trolling, I put on fake beards and everything.
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A: How do I split a string??? Help plz? (code trolling)

Dr. RebmuC My homework assignment is take a string and split it into pieces at every new line. I have no idea what to do! Please help! Tricky problem for a beginning C programming class! First you have to understand a few basics about this complicated subject. A string is a sequence made up of onl...

 
again i can't decide between the english and german windows 7
 
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8:05 PM
English.
 
what would you use as a german guy?
 
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Easier to search for error messages.
 
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Also it’s laughable if you cannot change this after installation.
 
How many of you go down to the costume shop to buy a beard for your trolls?
 
8:05 PM
will it make any problems with paths or something?
 
That beard cost... er, I don't remember, but like 25 bucks or so
 
@AndrewBarber lol @ closing this question - I don't fully agree it's too broad per se (it's tagged boost-asio after all, and mentions he knows how to use _boost asio buffer). My answer links to the parts of the documentation he couldn't find. But I see what you're missing - context and sample code :) — sehe 14 secs ago
 
do you recommend Windows 7 N edition?
or the non-N version.
 
Okay. That's an interesting side effect of my meta post :) ^
 
i don't really use the windows media player
 
8:11 PM
blehh, I am failing hard at memory allocation
 
@Borgleader Pfff.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ... Waste of time and money and e-ink
 
Added a collage of the 18 most recent answers in case they get clobbered/are inaccessible to <10k users: Imgur-ed collage http://i.imgur.com/JEeoBrC.pngsehe 6 secs ago
 
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@DeadMG Buahahahahaha. Who does that? xD
 
8:21 PM
I think the article says it. Toddlers can be evil. Especially them boys.
 
yeah
he totally premeditated that murder of those guys by stoning them
those toddlers arms, man, fuckin' lethal if you put in a pebble or someshit
 
Man. Humanity makes me sad sometimes.
Not relevant to your article
Just in general
 
sometimes?
humanity makes me sad every day, vOv
 
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Most of the time.
 
Yes. Only sometimes.
 
8:29 PM
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A: Is there a way to denote the calculation 1+2+3...+n?

ColinKI had a dream about this recently. In my dream, ⨥ was in common use by some ... group ... that I was doing some math with. They all thought I was strange for not knowing it. $5$⨥$ = 5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1$

Lolwut. Answering maths questions with ... dreams
 
@Rapptz Lucky son of a bitch.
 
I don't waste my time getting mopey
 
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@Rapptz Don’t consider those who make you feel that way human. Problem solved!
 
Your tweaked version runs smoothly on my OSX machine. The explanation you offer makes perfect sense and is highly appreciated. Thank you greatly. — Hal 9K 47 secs ago
I like when that happens.
 
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Dat heb je a
 
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8:31 PM
oh, nevermind.
 
I don't like when I mispaste :)
Surprising thing is, chat deduplicates posts, no?
 
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Sometimes.
 
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Sometimes.
 
user1804599
Sometims.
 
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Hmm, weird.
 
8:32 PM
Hehe. I'm getting throttled big time now
Huh. I had to wait 6 seconds, but it did post.
 
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Chat is shit.
 
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This software is horrible.
 
I fixed the boiler and was able to go on with my weekend celebration meal that's fit for a peasant like me
it's still tasty as fuck
 
woot. Looks good. Interesting use of kitchen towel
 
yeah, shawarmas are really popular in Romania
Shawarma ( / ALA-LC: shāwarmā) is an Arabic meat preparation, where lamb, chicken, turkey, beef, veal, or mixed meats are placed on a spit (commonly a vertical spit in restaurants), and may be grilled for as long as a day. Shavings are cut off the block of meat for serving, and the remainder of the block of meat is kept heated on the rotating spit. Although it can be served in shavings on a plate (generally with accompaniments), shawarma also refers to a sandwich or wrap made with shawarma meat. Shawarma is usually eaten with tabbouleh, fattoush, taboon bread, tomato, and cucumber. Toppin...
 
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also I do that thing with the paper towel so I don't have to clean up the crumbs and stuff by hand
unless required, I use plastic cutlery so I don't have to do the dishes
and so on
 
Xeo
fuck, I missed my time to get some food
 
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@Xeo Your foot is your food.
 
@rightfold Mmm. What gun happen iffameclikzzat?
 
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It is just a video.
 
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8:37 PM
But you will probably vomit a lot.
 
lol
How did you even find that chat
 
@FredOverflow new to me :)
 
@AlexM. so fucking good
 
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@sehe Dat is de vraag.
 
I'm gonna say: chat search
 
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8:39 PM
Nope.
 
user1804599
It is linked to from this web page: chat.stackoverflow.com/users/85371/sehe.
 
Ah. That exists. Right. There's no hope for Tina, though
Meeeeeh. I'm doing what the subject of your profile picture is now. Checkmate :) — sehe 15 secs ago
 
@AlexM. So speaking of Romania, there is an account claiming to be Romanian with a female avatar that has come into the Rebol and Red room, ostensibly interested, was asking for write access on the Red Trello... the requests didn't line up with things I'd say make sense. Says her website is cplusplus.com - what's this about? Note the date codes in the profile that Make No Sense(tm)
I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't say "er, what?"
No reverse image search verification on that pic
 
not really seeing what claiming to be a female has to do with anything
 
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> cplusplus.com
 
8:45 PM
Well I'm a pixelated utensil and proud of it
Actually, people at a conference said they were depressed to find out I wasn't actually a fork
Well sorry, whatever.
 
@HostileFork no idea who that is
 
Ok so why do they want access to the Red Trello then? That's a pretty high rep score
 
Elenasys, Earth
101 4
here she has another avatar and a different bio
what's up with all those dates in the bio
 
"15/Dic 15/Feb 26/May 5/Aug"
Dicktember, ah yes
 
wtf is Red Trello?
 
8:48 PM
that should have been 15/Dec
also no idea what red trello is
 
My last name is Dickens, I've been hassled on this for a long time, it's a bad word
 
@HostileFork can you move on to less shallow things?
 
No.
We are programmers, ostensibly
And as such we like to catch hackers and make systems run better. That's the theory.
If you can't say "that's important" then no, I think, we are not concerned about the same things
 
and preferably not make endless dick jokes just because a user has a female avatar.
I still don't know why you even brought this up here, nobody here seems to know or care what Red Trello is or who this user is.
 
My name being Brian Dickens and having perpetual communication problems because of it and having people make stupid excuses about why their systems can't ever give me an ID based on my legal written name is a serious issue.
 
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8:50 PM
@Borgleader Help me. ;~;
 
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My raytracer is in shambllessss.
 
brianickens
I couldn't ever get it fixed with Sprint
And they kept trying to change it in their system
 
well I feel bad for you son, but I don't see what this has to do with the above.
 
And the tech is like "Oh, hrm, I don't mean to suggest your name is obscene"
"But it seems every time I try an ID with DICK in it, it turns it into DCK"
Or whatever
"And are you going to fix it?"
"nah."
"don't bother me with your stupid problems"
"shut up go away" ever see Oblivion? Moon? The Matrix?
you guys are supposed to be the smart people. I trust you, because of your associated skills.
That trust is misplaced.
 
user3010322
Are.... are you going to be okay?
 
8:54 PM
Think there's something wrong with my arm?
 
we are smart people, I just have no idea what you want from us or why you want it from us.
 
I'm so confused right now
 
it's as if I tried to program in C++ again X_X
 
Not sure if I should see a doctor or not.
 
8:54 PM
only worse
 
user3010322
... Much, much worse...
 
user3010322
@AlexM. Ever write a ray tracer? :D
 
I mean it looks like it might be a problem
 
@ThePhD nope, all of my gamedev stuff was pretty light and mostly used what others made already
 
@HostileFork Doesn't look so bad honestly. Just wash that and you'll be good.
 
8:55 PM
I never wrote a shader so far for example
 
it's just a scratch, see a doctor if it gets infected
 
user3010322
Smart decision.
 
@EtiennedeMartel What do you think caused it?
 
@HostileFork You shoved your hand in the box like a noobcake?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Highly sentient answer, noted and logged.
 
8:57 PM
inb4 cats
 
You aren't real people, none of you are, are you?
Oh crap.
 
So, peeps. Taking votes: unilateral passive CHATTICIDE or... bulk bin?
 
@ThePhD I also rewrote mine in Haskell, but I have just solid colors working; at least I was able to find a good bmp spitting library (as I had to roll my own for C++, I could find some but they were either HORRIBLE or extremely complicated)
 
user3010322
Ah.
 
user3010322
8:59 PM
Yeah, I don't like many image library's interaces...
 

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