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2:00 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes a bit.
 
4kB is plenty
 
I ended up reformatting the thing (into 4kB alright)
 
I really don't know what you wanted to accomplish with 1MB sector
 
1 min ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
nah really I just felt like it.
 
Fragmentation doesn't matter on Flash drives
 
user1804599
2:01 PM
 
I was wondering what would happen
 
I never ever changed that before because who the fuck does that
 
Yes
Now you know why
 
I thought that it might have some effect on the speed of retrieving and storing large files
 
2:02 PM
Nah
 
you know maybe it isn't really "living on the edge", but changing your pendrive block size to 1MB might be as close to the "extreme" side of life as you can get doing that shitty job of ours.
 
@CatPlusPlus hehe
@BartekBanachewicz so now you know.
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, but not on a pendrive. And not retrieval, either. Maybe storing and fscking
 
Xeo
okaaay. how can I get boost::optional to reset its internal object without potentially using its assignment operator?
 
Why the restriction?
 
Xeo
because lambdas can't be assigned
 
2:05 PM
Assign it none.
 
Xeo
the assignment op is deleted
 
Not the one in optional.
 
Xeo
even if it's never used in my case, the compiler still sees that path.
 
Not the overload for none_t.
 
Xeo
oh, bad wording on my part
reset to another object
aka Luc's ephemeral, IIRC
 
2:06 PM
Use inplace factories.
 
Xeo
:s
 
Xeo
okay, that works. thanks.
 
Something broke.
 
Xeo
Yeah. Suddenly, my lists are only 1 element long
 
2:20 PM
That's not scary.
vim not working is.
 
Are you talking about C++?
 
no.
 
what is C++?
 
Can you tell me please, why that code isn't compiling:
 
2:23 PM
@ScarletAmaranth a miserable pile of #defines
 
@Ty221 what does the compiler output?
 
Code dump cleaned up.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oops. What is "not working" by the way?
 
@Ty221 because you're using begin and end functions without qualifying them or not including appropriate header?
 
woops.
 
2:24 PM
I've got following headers
 
:lol:
 
#include <cstdio>
#include <algorithm>
#include <iterator>
 
seriously, dude
just stop.
 
aaand plonk'd
 
@sehe gvim just doesn't open.
 
2:25 PM
@DeadMG Why are you removing my posts?
 
because this is not a helpdesk.
 
Stop posting that fucking image nobody cares
 
@Ty221 Your compiler is likely outdated.
 
go ask a question somewhere where people want to answer it, like Stack Overflow for example.
there's plenty of people there who want to help you
 
2:26 PM
Yeah, but that looks like really easy trouble so I asked it in the chat
 
@Ty221 then the case is because you're not writing C++.
 
yeah, but we're WAY more trouble than the main site.,
 
warning: ISO C++ forbids variable length array 'b' [-Wvla]
no idea why it's not an error
 
Because you're not using -pedantic
 
apparently G++ takes in a VLA but then begin breaks on it
amazing.
 
2:27 PM
I forgot what I wanted to say booo
 
I'm compiling everything by g++ in version 4.7
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no terminal output?
 
@CatPlusPlus that you love me
 
Linux Debian 64-bit
 
boooooooooo
 
2:27 PM
@CatPlusPlus booo hooo?
 
random methods vs functions is just silly
 
@BartekBanachewicz try using range-based for in c++03
 
you insert with list.insert but you delete with the del function: del list[i]
reverse is a method
while len is a function
nothing makes sense
 
your face doesn't make sense.
 
2:29 PM
(in python)
 
your python doesn't face sense
 
I have no async queue and I must delay
 
@sehe No. Terminal vim works fine.
gvim just exits without any sign of life.
 
You know what fuck it
 
@Ty221 Linux sucks
 
2:30 PM
I'll put the delay somewhere it doesn't belong
And busy wait until the thing is processed
 
Is there a sense to how the Python standard library chooses between member functions and functions? Or is it just random?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes try gvim -f (or whatever no-fork was)
 
Oh. I'm on Windows, btw.
 
Win-doze.
 
2:31 PM
 
user1804599
Ik weet wat een windhoos is, SEHE.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Bad rc
 
Okeej RIGHTFOLD
 
Probably bad Python
 
2:33 PM
all languages other than English should die.
 
bones
 
@CatPlusPlus Already suspected that. Moved it out of the way and not.
 
bones everywhere.
 
@Abyx and C++
 
If it can't import site, it will die silently
 
user1804599
2:33 PM
@Jefffrey I think stuff like len is for backward compatibility with/leftover of some ancient version of Python that didn't have methods.
 
@Abyx ... other than english
 
user1804599
Just a guess, though.
 
@rightfold nah. it's for compatibility with free function design, so you can stuff an array, list, dict or string in there without sweat
 
Or when it's bit mismatched
 
Wait.
Moving the rc is not enough.
 
user1804599
2:34 PM
@sehe those have to implement __len__ anyway.
 
Basically vim's Python integration is shit and I most of my straight crashes were Python-related
 
I need to move the one in vimfiles/vimrc too.
 
user1804599
Could just as well be len method.
 
I find len(collection) much nicer than collection.len()
 
I prefer collection.len()
 
2:35 PM
Read like "length of this collection" instead of "take this collection and of that the lengh"
 
len(collection) is inside-out.
 
user1804599
18
Q: difference between len() and .__len__()?

Mark FJust curious, Is there any difference between calling len([1,2,3]) or [1,2,3].__len__() ? If there is no apparent difference, what is done differently behind the scenes? Thanks

 
user1804599
@sehe me too, but not from a consistency POV.
 
Microsoft has a coliru clone: rise4fun.com
 
@sehe collection.len() can be "The collection's length".
 
Xeo
2:35 PM
haaaah, finally
 
@Ty221 Your code uses variable length arrays. That's not C++.
i.e. it's not supposed to work.
Just use std::vector like normal people.
 
user1804599
I like free functions that can be overloaded on dynamic type of argument.
 
user1804599
Consistent and flexible!
 
@CatPlusPlus Ha, yep, disabled Powerline and it workses.
:S
checks Python bitness
 
I could never get the new Powerline to work even, I still use the viml one
 
2:39 PM
Hmmm, bitness matches.
 
I scratched my ear.
 
Wait. There's no python32.dll anywhere.
 
your face is missing python32.dll
huh
Shitler.
it's so obvious, but somehow I still never saw it.
 
How? <padding/><padding/> — sehe 5 secs ago
 
Hmm, oh well.
Why the fuck am I not getting UAC prompts when copying to Program Files.
It just doesn't do anything at all.
 
2:48 PM
that's a good thing, isn't it?
 
No, it's not.
 
You use UAC?
 
I want a prompt, because I want to do the copy.
 
UAC is just annoying shit.
 
agreed.
 
2:48 PM
It's not.
 
Doesn't sound very good to me.
 
You don't need the prompt to copy.
 
Yes, I do, because I need elevation.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How are you copying?
 
2:51 PM
turning off UAC doesn't stop the elevation prompt.
Maybe nothing is in the clipboard if you aren't getting the elevation prompt.
 
I don't turn off UAC.
 
TeraCopy prompts
Also Total Commander
Basically it's probably just Explorer being shit at being a file manager as usual
 
Explorer isn't all that bad.
 
WTF, now I launched an elevated explorer and still naught?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what is it that you are trying to copy?
 
2:53 PM
Files
 
what is your access to that file?
 
I would never have guessed.
 
can you change your access?
 
2:54 PM
Why would I?
Ah, elevated cmd saves the day.
 
sometimes windows gets anal about permissions. When I have these issues, I just give myself ownership of that file or folder.
 
@Ak_Crusader I don't see how that matters.
 
user1804599
Speaking of file managers.
 
user1804599
I should use Dired more.
 
@Ak_Crusader I created the file.
 
2:55 PM
Yeah, but it's windows
 
user1804599
And get a better keyboard with actual space between keys.
 
So what.
Why I am listening to random guesses from someone that disables UAC.
 
It's not random guessing, Just trying to help out. UAC is not useful if you know how to use your computer and even though you created that file. windows sometimes likes to claim it with another ownership depending on where it is created. Multiple times I have had to change ownership of a file because it didn't like where I placed it.
 
If you know how to use your computer you don't go around trumping permissions at random because "it's windows"
 
Welp, my crash reporter is crashing.
 
3:01 PM
@EtiennedeMartel so meta
 
Am I allowed to link to my stackoverflow question here?
 
Again, not at random. But you did fix the issue with an elevated CMD. kinda like being Root in linux. logic says it's a permission issue.
 
@Ak_Crusader If not at random, then why?
All you said was "but it's windows".
 
@AES256 Hello! Welcome to the Lounge!
 
@Ak_Crusader It was never a permission issue. It was always an issue of gosh knows why explorer thought it was a good idea to silently not copy anything.
Elevated explorer did the same nothing. It's not about permissions.
 
3:05 PM
13 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
Basically it's probably just Explorer being shit at being a file manager as usual
 
mmm:
4
Q: What is the purpose of this pattern using a volatile pointer to "this"?

Caetano SauerI have recently come across a curious use of the volatile keyword in C++ multithreaded code. To abstract the programming pattern, let's assume there is a control object which is accessed by one producer and several consumer threads: class control_t { pthread_mutex_t control_lock; pthread...

 
pattern
I saw this code pattern exactly once
That book is literally cancer
 
So we changed Internet providers this weekend at work. I did another speed test this morning.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I like how you neatly edited the message to prepare it for potential stars
 
3:17 PM
Hmm, I'm getting pain in my right hand pinky. And I don't even use the mouse so much.
 
I would say more but my tummy hurts. Just go with @CatPlusPlus answer.
 
Fuck this work.
Fuck computers.
 
Agreed.
 
I dunno about you
but I'm not really seeing how that's physically possible.
 
That's because you're on drugs.
 
3:19 PM
are you implying that my judgement might be impaired?
 
@DeadMG Ruining your pinky by using a mouse?
Pinkies are important, man.
 
no, just that you don't need to get physical relief from a computer. you have drugs to do it for you.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes vast majority of your body parts is important
 
I've used a mouse for 20 years and it hasn't impacted my pinky at all
 
But did it affect your brain
 
3:20 PM
@DeadMG I'm a weakling, ok?
3
 
I have a problem - I am an argument discussion magnet. I tried to be agreeable, but it seems people all want to disagree with me, what should I do?
 
@telkitty.exe agreeing is no fun
 
I am trying to be like 'yeah yeah yeah' all day, but I really can't lie against my core belief
 
@telkitty.exe maybe your core beliefs are messed up
 
@telkitty.exe don't tell anything, just hit'em in the face
 
3:26 PM
maybe I seem too strong?
 
@telkitty.exe You shouldn't have to go against yourself. Unless it's something factual, you have every right to believe what you want. they are called opinions for a reason
 
people think it is okay to bash/pick a fight against people who seem to be stronger than themselves
 
@telkitty.exe what?
 
That's human nature. To get to the top of the food chain.
 
yeah. You seem stronger than yourself. That's why I always bash you
Nope.
 
3:28 PM
@EtiennedeMartel what the
 
@telkitty.exe Just /ignore the trolls?
 
not on the internet
but with friends
nowadays when I disagree I just shut up
 
no you don't
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit was about to say
 
@ScarletAmaranth too slow
 
3:31 PM
@AndyProwl yeeey andy
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit None of us knows how she acts in person.
 
@ScarletAmaranth hola hola
 
@JerryCoffin I was hoping she'd fall for it, not you
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Sorry--hadn't been on in a while, and was ready to post given any excuse at all...
 
@JerryCoffin that's... kinda sad :(
 
3:34 PM
:justpost:
 
If you want to successfully commit suicide, come here for reasurance first - it really helps :p
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit So it is. Was staying at a hotel the last few days. Web site said they had free internet access, but it wasn't working most of the time I was there...
 
Maybe you just need a little dose of /r/eyebleach
 
@Ak_Crusader Hard to imagine a situation in which I'd need (or want) that (or most of Reddit, for that matter).
 
@ScarletAmaranth how's the dissertation going?
 
3:38 PM
I've never needed it. But that might be because I avoid things that shouldn't be looked at.
 
@AndyProwl almost finished; just need to sneak in citations, keywords, abstracts and other bs
 
cool
 
(so there's still work to be done, just not... anything creative)
LaTeX magic
 
yeah
are you going to the Lounge meetup?
 
I don't think I am, haven't given it much thought yet tho
 
3:41 PM
I think it will be fun
 
No need to explain @Jerry, no need to explain. Family > internet friends ~_~
 
it will most definitely be fun; the conversation will digress into tabs vs spaces at some point tho
 
@telkitty.exe Yes, family does take priority, but not (by choice) exclusivity.
 
@JerryCoffin how's job hunting coming along?
 
@ScarletAmaranth Stopped. Got a job about a month ago.
 
3:43 PM
oh; no way; what is it that you do?
 
@ScarletAmaranth Sweep and mop floors, of course.
:-)
 
jerry the janitor
5
 
do you at least get to write the wonderous language of C++?
 
@ScarletAmaranth I'd be disappointed if it didn't
 
@DeadMG Certainly feels like it sometimes.
@ScarletAmaranth Oh, you mean like in reality? Yeah, mostly write C++. Project has some Python in it as well, but so far I haven't dealt much with that part.
 
3:45 PM
@JerryCoffin happy with the job so far?
 
@ScarletAmaranth Yes, quite, thanks.
 
glad to hear that
 
Speaking of work, I should probably go...
 
have fun jeffster
 
@AndyProwl I'll come if I fail to get this girl I've recently wanted to... "acquire"; to bring negativity!
 
3:46 PM
@telkitty.exe Unless you're @rightfold
 
@ScarletAmaranth oh come on
You shouldn't plan based on girls
(unless you acquired them long ago, in which case you might have to)
 
I like that you adopted the word "acquire" in this context
 
you should ... for your baby daughter ... just saying
 
Yeah seems like a very intent-revealing name
 
3:48 PM
unless you want to be a bad dad ... in which the case you should not be a father at all
 
@AndyProwl mmm; I'm trying to figure out a Slovak / Czech word with similar semantics in this context
 
@ScarletAmaranth ziskat?
 
@AndyProwl mmmmm... je to mozne
 
not enough possessive perhaps
 
yeah
it's like...
"I want you to be mine and mine only" sort of thing
 
3:51 PM
unique_ptr<girl>
3
 
osvojit si?
 
@AndyProwl shared_ptr<hooker>
4
 
Always acquire armour
(Play Crawl)
 
3:53 PM
Yes
 
@Abyx std::make_out<hooker>
 
do you play the online version, @CatPlusPlus ?
 
Usually
There's a tournament going on till Sunday
 
well, I don't even know whether I have to call unique_ptr::reset on her
 
user1804599
~unique_ptr.
 
3:55 PM
I'll try the game out
 
Yesss be one of us
 
@rightfold how's the EBI thing going?
 
user1804599
Guess.
 
If you play WebTiles you can give people link to #watch-<nick> to spectate!
I can tell you how to get blown up by orb spiders repeatedly
 
you switched to some other project?
 
user1804599
3:57 PM
:D
 
lol
 
I'll take a look later tonight; well, I'm off, laters
 
Zoidberg, a creature of habit
 
user1804599
lol
 
@AndyProwl 'Extensive Botox Injections'?
 
4:03 PM
@MartinJames what else? ;)
 
Updating Ruby 1.9.2 to 2.1.1 what could possibly go wrong
 
user1804599
As long as you don’t do require 'mathn', everything should be fine. :P
 
I have no idea what this app does and doesn't
But sidekiq segfaults on 1.9.2 so
 
user1804599
lol
 
4:23 PM
gems/aws-s3-0.6.2/lib/aws/s3/extensions.rb:84: invalid multibyte escape: /[\x80-\xFF]/
 
4:34 PM
no implicit conversion of nil into String
Yeah that went well
 
5:24 PM
I want to save the last N bytes in a file
surely that cannot be that hard
in C#
 
@TonyTheLion Advance the stream to the end, go back N bytes, write the end.
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion stream.Write(buffer, buffer.Length - N, N)
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion That’s what she said.
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion Impure love.
 
@CatPlusPlus I made a Demonspawn Necromancer
 
5:42 PM
Might be hard
 
I'm not expecting to get far on first life in a rogue-like
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Turns out in-place factories don't allow my code to be quite as neat as if I had an ephemeral / assignment never called the contained assignment operator
 
@CatPlusPlus so... I met a kobold; he stabbed me once -> poisoned me and I died; funtimes
 
Casters are squishy
Minotaur/Gargoyle Fighter is a much stronger start (gets tier 2 weapon, a shield, and melee-oriented starting skillset). Plus Gargoyles are hilarious and get tons of intrinsic resistances (but -30% HP, though it's still easymode)
 
5:56 PM
alright; I'll try a gargoyle, thanks
 

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