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10:00 PM
@Borgleader because it's funny
 
Ell
I like misquote threads: The names James. James James.
 
hello all folk
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit o.o well my sense of humor must be on vacation because I don't get it
 
@Borgleader Probably less "sense of humor on vacation" than "not bored enough that any distraction seems like an improvement."
 
Do you think that it count as reading a book when when a girl asked me I answered SICP?
 
user3010322
@JerryCoffin Huu huu hu LOOK A SQUIRREL
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I know.
 
Squirrels are fun.
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit repost!!!!!!!!!!11111111
 
Stop reposting your exclamation marks, please.
 
10:06 PM
22 mins ago, by Tony The Lion
 
@rightfold According to this I should have a pretty long beard
 
user3010322
I want to make Glaskell.
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Oh :(
 
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@LoïcFaure-Lacroix OS X is not on the list.
 
user3010322
10:07 PM
I want functional GPU language. I want to learn functional programming by making a functional language.
 
@rightfold Gentoo is
 
user1804599
But it would be hipsterbeard.
 
@ThePhD wtf is a functional GPU language
 
user3010322
@Borgleader Haskell, for GPUs!
 
user3010322
Or OCaml.
 
user1804599
10:07 PM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix I am in charge of two Gentoo boxen.
 
user3010322
Or, uh. One of those functional language-y thingies.
 
user3010322
Still exploring.
 
@rightfold should it be harder than one?
 
user1804599
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix no.
 
portage is awesome
 
10:08 PM
@ThePhD Yeah... that doesn't explain anything. =/ Unless you mean it has built-in language constructs for parallel execution of loops and such.
 
yet gentoo works only 2 hours on my battery compared to 6-7 hours on OSx
 
@Borgleader well it explains it relatively ok
thing is @ThePhD that functional languages tend to be more high level
 
user3010322
@Borgleader Oh. Maybe a better phrasing would have been Functional Shader Language, maybe.
 
which you really don't want in a GPU DSL
 
user1804599
@Borgleader like Haskell. :P
 
user3010322
10:09 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That's a good thing, right?
 
@ThePhD That's a terrible idea :S
 
@rightfold Haskell has gpu accelaration?
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes But... but why. ;~;
 
@ThePhD It means you have no idea what you want, because you want to learn it.
 
@Borgleader no, very good threading support
 
10:10 PM
@BartekBanachewicz why not? the gpu is enough domain specific for a DSL?
 
user1804599
@Borgleader implementation-defined.
 
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@ThePhD well first thing is that you don't write loops etc in shaders, so a lot of functional benefits would be moot
 
std::array<int, 4> n = { 1, 2 }; // allowed :(
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix that DSL has to compile to a very restricted binary
 
10:11 PM
@StackedCrooked Of course, just like regular arrays.
afaik anyway
 
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@StackedCrooked std::array is considered an aggregate, so c-style initialization applies to it, I believe.
 
how would you go about implementing HOFs on GPU?
it just doesn't make sense.
 
@BartekBanachewicz what does that mean "cow :: Integer -> [char] -> String"
 
In case of shading languages "how" is a good thing to have in a program (compared to "what" in FP)
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix String cow (Integer, [char])
 
user1804599
I love imperative programming.
 
10:12 PM
So it's all about currying ?
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix yep
 
@Borgleader I didn't know that regular array allowed that. Doh.
 
like ((cow 1) "allo")
 
cow 1 "allo"
 
now it make sense...
 
10:13 PM
application is left-associative
 
Now this: "stringParser :: Parser MyVal"
does that mean that Parser(MyVal) returns a type?
 
not necessarily
 
user1804599
Parser is a function inside.
 
@StackedCrooked yep the rest get set to (iirc)
 
in the first line, Parser is a type. in the second, you assume it's a constructor
consider
 
10:15 PM
there is only one line
 
@Borgleader the rest get set to (iirc)?
:)
 
data A = A Int
let a = A 5

data Weird = X | Y
let b = X
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix ^. A constructor doesn't have to be named the same as type is
 
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@StackedCrooked 0
 
@StackedCrooked to 0 oops =/
 
@rightfold to zero or the letter O?
:P
 
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10:16 PM
@StackedCrooked letter O.
 
user1804599
Duh.
 
user1804599
Domme Belg.
 
I'm just trying to figure out how Parsec works
 
@StackedCrooked Capital zero.
 
oh this is brilliant
 
10:16 PM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix parsec uses monads. that's a tad different
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nice
 
As I understand, Haskell is quite strongly typed and can guess the types required.
 
Guessing is in Perl.
 
If it can't guess 100% it will raise an exception
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix parsec uses monads. that's a tad different
 
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10:18 PM
ALRIGHT GUYS, IT'S TIME
 
Preliminary results of code review are in :) Give me a few more minutes... :) — sehe 4 secs ago
 
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IT'S POEM AND HEADPHONES TIME.
 
@ThePhD You are rage quitting?
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix It's based on heuristics from Google search entries.
 
@ThePhD o
 
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10:18 PM
You wish :)
No, I'm sending a girl some headphones and a poem.
 
@StackedCrooked more like data flow analysis
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix it has type inference, yes. That's why you don't have to always know the exact type of the operands you're working on
 
btw @ThePhD I'm writing a 3D game engine in Haskell
 
@ThePhD old news
 
10:19 PM
@BartekBanachewicz But it doesn't have overloads like "a" + "b" and 1 + 2
 
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@sehe Yes, but now I finally have the information to do it.
 
user3010322
Just need to decide on headphone type.
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix it has overloads. Try "a" + 1 though.
 
user3010322
But she refuses my hints! She won't drop whether she likes back-of-the-head style or over-the-head style. =[
2
 
why don't you ask?
 
10:21 PM
@BartekBanachewicz "a" + 1 doesn't work
 
user3010322
@BartekBanachewicz If I ask directly, she'll IMMEDIATELY know something's up.
 
user3010322
ANd prepare herself to return fire.
 
user3010322
I need to make this a quick, quiet gift, that arrives under stealth of night.
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix and that is one important part of strong typing, in particular lack of type coercion
 
@BartekBanachewicz It doesn't have overloads.
 
10:22 PM
@ThePhD Don't knock out and kidnap people tia
 
@ThePhD Return fire? Are you planning to throw the headphones and poem at her?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes eh, you can specify a function with the same name acting on different types
 
My god all of these things you're saying are funny out of context
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, always kidnap people while conscious.
 
53 secs ago, by ThePhD
I need to make this a quick, quiet gift, that arrives under stealth of night.
 
10:23 PM
How can I do that then: "String foo(int, char)" and "String foo(int, int)" ?
 
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@Borgleader No, but she might send me gifts in return.
 
user3010322
Which is unacceptibru.
 
Stop being allergic to gifts
 
@ThePhD WhiteKnightPHD
 
fuck we're the 13..
 
10:24 PM
@CatPlusPlus Thought you were referring to "something's up".
 
Ell
@ThePhD then what do you plan to get in return for the gift? o.O
 
user3010322
@Ell Nothing.
 
user3010322
That's why it's a gift?
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix you're going from a wrong direction. IMHO and experience Haskell doesn't "like" if you think about things in a wrong way
 
@ThePhD Or we'll do a desensitization (I can't spell this) therapy by sending you gifts until you stop being allergic to gifts
 
Ell
10:24 PM
I give gifts expecting something back :P
 
@Ell You're terrible hth
 
@Ell You're terrible.
 
user3010322
@Ell That might explain why you have some trouble with the ladies...
 
@Ell ಠ_ಠ
 
Ell
Okay, I don't expect for something back, I hope for something back :D
 
10:25 PM
@Ell You can't buy me, hotdog man.
 
I wish I could do "group star"
 
You're still terrible
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm an ADULT.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes hotdog man? I don't get it :(
 
@ThePhD just on the glasses, then; easy cleanup
 
Xeo
10:26 PM
@Ell you suck
 
@Ell I always expect nothing in returns... it hurt less if I achieve my expectations
 
@R.M can I ask you a terrible (by SO terms) question?
 
Last one. Who's hungry?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Really shoulda been 2-3 seconds later.
 
10:27 PM
@DeadMG Hmm, true.
 
Ell
I think strawberries are for pallet cleansing
 
@BartekBanachewicz Shoot.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes *bang*
 
fixed.
I wanted to go more SSCCE to show you and found the problem
 
user3010322
Any recommendations for Wireless HEadphones, everyone?
 
user3010322
10:30 PM
Before I make a final decision?
 
I am terrible and you should laugh now.
 
lol
@ThePhD Yes.
 
so now what the hell is that I am doing that's not in Core 4.0
 
@ThePhD make sure it works with her phone/ or whatever she uses
 
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@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Lots of iDevices, but this is not for those purposes.
 
10:31 PM
I think I should import OpenGL as GL
 
I'm back. Anyone familiar with SQL statements ?
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Care2share?
 
the gaming thing ?
 
@kiasy I've failed my exam so no
 
:(
 
10:31 PM
@ThePhD don't
 
user1804599
@kiasy I am not.
 
@ThePhD Yes, as him, yes, wireless.
 
user3010322
Lulz.
 
Xeo
damn, why is it already 11:30pm. I napped too long!
 
@Xeo owned
 
10:33 PM
@rightfold opened a room, please check it out
 
@ThePhD mobile or home?
 
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@BartekBanachewicz Home.
 
Xeo
so much for ordering foods
 
@kiasy congratulations
 
user3010322
One of the headsets I want had its price jacked up. It's like 103 Dollars now
 
user3010322
10:33 PM
FFS.
 
@ThePhD the most expensive sennheisers you can get vOv (they start reasonably low though)
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix lol
i meant check it out as in come talk there
 
Xeo
welp, guess I'll have to make-do with bread today
 
we've got some beans left.
 
10:35 PM
@Purrformance missed again baby :*
 
hm
using OGL from Haskell creates some nontrival issues
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
OTOH it solves some nontrivial issues
wwaaaait
I could use gDebugger
 
@BartekBanachewicz Like what?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes naming differences (I know I've said that already)
and, yet still, debugging (though I love ghci debugging - I just suck at it still)
 
10:37 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Sorry, that's not nontrivial.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes vertexAttribPointer (AttribLocation 0) $= (ToFloat, VertexArrayDescriptor 2 Float 0 offset0)
well.
Overall I think it's better than using OGL from C++, basing on such a short exposure.
 
Ell
Wow
 
Wow what?
 
Ell
Some of my year group arrived in Africa already
 
user3010322
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Sound feedback sucks,
So these are for you.

幸せなバレンタインデー、
デルプ ストオモー。
 
user3010322
10:40 PM
I AM READY.
 
At sight, would this function slow down a lot requests?
 
@kwak waaat
 
@BartekBanachewicz There's a function, called at each request, is it terrible for performance?
 
why are you converting to ASCII in the first place if I might ask?
 
That looks horrible :S
 
user1804599
10:43 PM
@kwak dat code.
 
user1804599
@kwak measure it.
 
so I got INVALID_OPERATION
 
@kwak ICU has a to Latin ASCII transform.
 
@BartekBanachewicz not me, just seeing this code, I don't understand the reason either
@R.MartinhoFernandes ok
 
> GL_INVALID_OPERATION is generated by glVertexAttribPointer if size is GL_BGRA and noramlized is GL_FALSE.
> noramlized
sigh
 
Ell
10:45 PM
I forgot the stance on Unicode regexen
 
waaait
is not using VAOs deprecated? o.O
> You either use vertex array objects (VAOs) or you don't (though not using VAOs is deprecated and discouraged/prohibited in modern OpenGL).
what the fuck.
I've always used VAOs so apparently I missed that
uh
 
hi every body
 
Ell
@bartek I knew it!
 
now how do I VAO
 
Ell
If I could I'd search back through the transcript and find the time when some of some guise here told me I was talking nonsense when I said that
 
10:52 PM
I thought I knew how GL state works, but then I read some more of GL spec
 
i would like to be proved wrong about my conception that a function template can't be passed as template parameter
 
Ell
@cheers hi :)
 
@CatPlusPlus that's nothing new really
 
@Ell oh hi, long time no c!
 
It is a very good spec (tm)
 
10:53 PM
heh no not very much
it has a lot of ambiguities and weird shit
but at least people aren't afraid to throw dumb stuff out(yes I'm looking at you C++)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Where are you reading this?
 
Ell
@cheers can I ask which part of Norway you are in? North? South?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Christian Rau's answer. And GL spec confirms.
 
user1804599
 
@Ell i'm temporarily (now on second year) in northern norway
the most rural are aof the most rural area
 
Ell
10:55 PM
Ahh cool :) how far north? Can you see the northern lights?
 
yes
and also the sun in the middle of the night, in summer
 
Ell
aww that's awesome. Ive always wanted to visit Norway, and I think the language is wicked cool
 
@rightfold I scored 2
 
Ell
I attempted to learn some bits but Haven't got very far :/ ah well. Maybe I'll save up enough to go there some time :)
 
10:56 PM
@Ell i think i remember you did quite well
 
Here, I have some bits, you can learn those: 00101010101001011101
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz I just scored 15.
 
Ell
@cheers other studies have taken over now really :/
 
Is anybody here hacking on Pandoc? I need to enhance its LaTeX reader, adding one recognized command \texorpdfstring{tex string}{pdf string}.
 
Ell
In other news, tornado warning!
 
10:58 PM
I am looking at the appropriate LaTeX.hs file but I do not understand the used parser well enough.
 
@Ell oh well. wasn't it you who thought spiders were cool not buzzing like flies?
 

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