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12:00 AM
@sehe I'm not exactly sure which one of these definitions is applying to this case
 
All 3
WTF Arch linux packages download at 30K/s
 
@sehe Wrong mirror then.
It's 1.5MiB/s for me
 
I opened the mirror files, saw germany on top and thought, that's ok
Apparently, germany is an underdeveloped region
 
@sehe Jesus, are all people in here either in Germany or the UK
 
Nope. And, why the profanity
 
12:03 AM
The whole server geography thing was misinterpreted
 
@sehe Actually my teacher told me that he talked to a german technician once, who told him that west germany - compared to the eastern part - has an obsolete RAN
 
Peasants were peaceful song makers
@Columbo Rainforest Auction Network?
Royal Australian Navy?
Radicalisation Awareness Network
mmm. that last one makes oodles of sense actually
 
Nope - Rustical AUR network
(AUR = Arch user repository)
Actually I meant internet, and thought that "Regional area network" was abbreviated as RAN - wanted to sound expertized
Well, that backfired
 
@Columbo duh
I've never done Arch before, so that was /whoosh/
@Columbo Ah. I just did :v/nl/d in mirror-list and d/l is at 2.54M/s now
 
@sehe Well done :)
 
12:15 AM
@rightføld that is nice. And lol fuck workspace safety
 
12:27 AM
very dumb question. If I am on a branch, and do git push (remote) master, that should push my current branch to the remote's master, right?
 
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Q: not less than php !<

truI have looked on here and many have said there is no way to have an operator !<, because if something is !< then it must be =.. But I am trying to define conditions to not include results from a foreach loop. for the sake of this example the results from the foreach returns 25 results and each $...

 
@corvid depends on tracked branch and older versions had different defaults for matching local/remote branch names. Try git push (master) mycurrent_branch:remote_branch_name
 
@sehe yeah just did that, that fixed the problem
should probably just read the documentation before asking these things
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit dat hypothesis at the beginning
> I have looked on here and many have said there is no way to have an operator !<, because if something is !< then it must be =
 
good isn't it
 
12:41 AM
Try <? and ?>. Those are the operators I always see being used in PHP — sehe just now
 
1:08 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Wait. Columbo thinks he has a picture of puppy?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No; that's him pretending to fall for me pretending that the guy he found on Facebook was Puppy.
hey I never said it'd be easy
 
Lol, did they change the arrow symbols?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What is the C++14 (FD)IS?
Can't wrap my head around it.
Federal denormalized international standard?
 
First Draft International Standard
 
Ahh
thanks!
Hold on, was that just a blind guess of yours?
Though it sounds just like that's it
 
No.
 
1:20 AM
It's Final, not First.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ... I was just gonna say.
 
yeah oops
I just woke up
(At 8 PM..)
 
Guys, I was wondering: to check collision detection in, let's say, a 2D game you usually use a Quadtree or some sort of data structure that lowers the complexity of searching for collisions to something lower than O(n^2) for n objects, right?
 
@Rapptz FDIS means Final Draft International Standard
 
good job
 
1:24 AM
thank you
@Columbo The C++xx FDIS is usually equivalent to the C++xx standard itself, just with a different name and cover and whatnot.
(otherwise it wouldn't be very final)
 
I've just installed my first Arch ever just to test this: demo animation gif - that is with stock kernel and fresh install. Just installed base-devel vim boost openbsd-netcat screen for this demo. I strongly suspect some non-standard issues at play (SELinux, AppArmor, iptables, sysctl tunings whatnot). — sehe 1 min ago
@Columbo ^ woot
 
@sehe Well, why would anyone want me to quote the first draft?
@sehe History fail
 
Apparently there's overwrite mode in browser text boxes too.
@Columbo misdirected reply?
 
@sehe What exactly were you on about in the first place, with that "woot"?
 
... I point at it. "☝"?
 
1:28 AM
I thought you were mocking me or sth.
@sehe Not the ^, the >woot<
Is that a weird way of sarcastically saying "what"?
 
They're in the same freaking message, next to eachother. Maaaaaaybe, "Woot" is related to "^" :)
Interjection: woot
  1. Expressing happiness or approval.
Verb: woot
  1. first-person singular present indicative of witen
  2. third-person singular present indicative of witen
  3. imperative singular of witen...
 
@sehe lol haha
 
W00t!!!1!
 
Didn't even know what that meant
 
So you assume the worst. Interesting
 
1:30 AM
@sehe Yes. After I pissed everyone off I'm prepared for the worst
 
@Columbo Good thinking.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wie denn?
No it isn't. I'm just sometimes sloppy with typing
Also "Alter" hehehe. Google Translate (TM)
In other news, Arch strikes me as blazingly fast. Might have something to do with me running it on tmpfs but still
 
hey, I actually did something cool for once
 
Don't tell us or you will be disappointed.
 
well it's not cool by people-who-are-good-at-programming standards
 
1:34 AM
@sehe You got Gnome, or KDE, or what?
I personally think Gnome + Arch is a killer
And Gnome has a really nice workflow
Smooth
@sehe (It just means "buddy", to avoid misunderstandings)
 
@Columbo hehehe. I got base-devel. Who needs desktop environments for testing
@Columbo Well. Specifically for older males, then. "Hey old one" would be close, I suppose
 
@sehe Nein.
 
Tut mir Leid
Wieso hat niemand mir das gesagt
Uhoh flying coffins
 
"Alter" ist eine umgangssprachlichen Anrede unter Jugendlichen, mit Alter selbst hat das primär nichts zu tun.
 
Etymologie mag aber auch etwas
 
1:43 AM
Stop raping the german language by using GT. I have pride.
 
Wut I don't use GT. I have pride. I'm Dutch remember
 
How did you translate that then? Or do you actually speak german?
 
No one speaks German, come on.
 
Sufficiently, it would appear then
@R.MartinhoFernandes Luegner
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You speak German as you live in Berlin.
 
1:44 AM
My keyboard has changed. Dunno how to diacritics anymore
 
@sehe I would do the corresponding command to change the layout
Oh, wait, you're not writing this from Arch head->table
(It would be loadkeys de-latin1 for me)
 
@Columbo And even if I did, the console vtys don't support that :)
 
@sehe They don't support dutch stuff? W0ot!!
 
@Columbo Ah, that kind of keymap. Yeah. I just despise dead keys and couldn't spot an "International + AltGr Dead Keys" in that list
So I kept the default. And I'm obviously not browsing from a bare VM
 
@Columbo How is that related at all?
 
1:47 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes qed
 
4 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
No one speaks German, come on.
 
Living in Berlin by no means imply speaking German. I know people here that don't even speak English.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, normal German people lol
 
I'm not German.
 
1:48 AM
And yes, living in Berlin implies some basic knowledge of German to some extent.
@R.MartinhoFernandes How is that relevant?
I'm only half german. I could not be german at all, that does not matter.
 
@Columbo It is relevant because you mentioned I live in Berlin, therefore I speak German.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You make me sound moronic.
 
@Columbo No, it does not.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Okay, I say it does. Your cases are exceptions that confirm the rule.
And I bet they at least know "Hallo"
And that is some basic knowledge. "Guten Tag" and the like.
Or "Euro", though you just have to be masochistically inclined to say that
 
@Columbo Er.
 
1:52 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You mean to tell me you can live in Berlin for a longer period and not know any german?
 
Yes.
I've met those people.
 
Like, months?
 
Years.
I've met them in first level German class.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Now that is blatantly impossible.
 
Feel free to reject my reality based on your fantasy.
 
1:53 AM
You will learn german just by the fact that you live and communicate with other people there.
 
@Columbo No, you won't.
You don't learn German speaking to Spanish people.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ... that sounds ridiculous. Sorry, I just can't believe that.
That after years of living in a country you don't learn its language.
At least basics.
That suffice for communication.
 
Have you ever been to Berlin? (or Germany)
@Columbo You can talk to Spanish people in Spanish.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
I lived the last 16 years in Germany.
 
What's funny?
You assume everyone living in Berlin is German.
That's soooooo wrong.
 
1:55 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes NO.
 
1 min ago, by Columbo
You will learn german just by the fact that you live and communicate with other people there.
Then what explains this?
 
> You assume everyone living in Berlin >>**is**<<< German.
I assume everyone living there for longer periods SPEAKS German.
To some extent.
 
@Columbo Well, speaks only German.
You don't need German to communicate with someone that speaks another language.
There are enough people in Berlin that speak another language for you to get by without German for years.
It's a bit ridiculous and sad, but true.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, most German people speak horrific English in Hamburg. That's my experience.
Berlin is different, obviously.
Pardon me for my naivete.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, but Berlin does not consist of spanish people. Or portugese. Most of them are from one nation, surprisingly.
And you cannot circumvent communication in German for too long, can you?
 
Well, I've met people that did for five years.
I know they don't speak German because they knew less than me in the first German class.
Well, didn't. After the class they knew a bit.
Some people just find a circle where they can get by without German and never bother with it.
 
2:02 AM
There's huge circles in Australia where they don't speak English very well at all
 
Yeah, I can believe that too.
And as an outsider it's easy to miss that they exist precisely because they don't interact with you.
 
Stay at home mums are probably the most obvious case
Of immigrants that is
They either feel there's no need to try learning, or they just aren't exposed enough.
 
I plan to learn italian.
Primarily because Italy is a great country I already visited twice.
 
@Columbo also keep in mind that today with the Internet it is not hard for potential members of such small communities to find each other.
So they flourish a lot more.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do you consider these groups a danger
I would.
 
2:11 AM
Why?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Immigrants have to adapt. If they don't, then at some point they may force others to adapt to them.
 
I'm not talking about gangs or anything. It's just people that share social circles.
@Columbo And...
Then everyone is adapted to live together!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Which undermines our culture
Our culture is at high stake
 
Are you serious?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nope.
 
2:14 AM
Btw, that "exception that proves the rule" thing is thoroughly abused and it's a pet peeve of mine.
"The exception [that] proves the rule" means that the presence of an exception applying to a specific case establishes ("proves") that a general rule exists. For example, a sign that says "parking prohibited on Sundays" (the exception) "proves" that parking is allowed on the other six days of the week (the rule). A more explicit phrasing might be "The exception that proves the existence of the rule." == Use in English == Henry Watson Fowler's Modern English Usage identifies five ways in which the phrase is commonly used, here listed in order from most to least correct. === Original mean...
There.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes, I abused it for the sake of my argumentation (that I had only little faith in).
Actually your cases disproved my "rule".
 
I personally wish people spoke the overarching language of the country they're in
And take the time to learn it if they travel from a country with a different language
Just for the efficiency of communication
And I dunno if it's me, but the sound of some foreign languages is just irritating :P

But then, I guess cultures have to adapt in some way, and I'm definitely glad Australia is multicultural
 
You can't have a culture that is both alien-inclusive and unchanging.
 
Yeah 100% agree.
 
2:45 AM
got it working in the worst possible way!
 
2:57 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I used to agree, but now I've changed my alien-inclusive mind.
 
3:09 AM
@JerryCoffin where do you live?
Cos there's some places in the world you really have to accept it
 
3:58 AM
EUROPE
PUT YOUR HANDS UP IN THE AIR
IT'S FUCKING 5AM IN THE MORNING
I wonder how did that happen.
 
4:15 AM
@Xeo @Mysticial Parasyte is turning out to be really good :)
 
4:51 AM
@Jefffrey Time flies like an arrow ... and fruit flies like a banana.
 
5:06 AM
this website says it only supports Solaris, Mac 10.3, and Windows 2003 :|
 
5:17 AM
@corvid ... minoritarianism much?
 
it's so terrible at everything
 
I am absolutely free this morning. Can anyone point me to somewhere where I can learn something useful to C++ programming?
Ah, you're all to busy being dead. Some other time perhaps.
Toodles.
 
@Nick Yes, I could.
But I will insult your mom instead :P
@Nick Do you know some C++ already?
 
what is C++?
 
It's an alternative way of saying CC.
 
5:32 AM
C = C + 1 was the original name. Not catchy enough
 
Now you C it. Now you don't.
VN Committee in Dutch is "VN-Comité". My language is so gay.
 
Dutch sounds bizarre
 
It sounds normal to me.
 
6:03 AM
Bad title of the day:
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Q: Last C++ Assignment Due in 24 Hours! HAYLP

OrnsteinI really need help with the rest of my assignment. So I'll put my code so far, and then what the teacher wants left. #include <iostream> #include <fstream> #include <cmath> #include <string> using namespace std; int main() { int arrayValue; string studentRecord; string stu[15]; char yn; string...

 
I can confirm that it's bad.
 
6:22 AM
@StackedCrooked I know basic stuff (Things covered on any intro course). Not anything useful yet.
 
6:55 AM
Good morning
 
7:10 AM
> It's like old physicist jokes that go "We have made several simplifying assumptions... first, let each horse be a perfect rolling sphere..."
lol
 
7:24 AM
I believe it's called a "tilde"... or "squiggly". But not this. No, not this at all. http://t.co/F15hBKvly3
2
lol
 
At least it is not "Hashtag"
 
8:17 AM
lol
 
@StackedCrooked approximated to a point sized object located three clicks from the Andromeda galaxy.
@Rapptz You mean ~. I've heard it be called a "flourish"
 
9:03 AM
@StackedCrooked you got EFMC++ already?
 
user1804599
9:24 AM
@StackedCrooked Flemish accent is hilarious though.
 
user1804599
> In 1999, five years after the myth started to spread, the city council released a press statement titled Bielefeld gibt es doch! (There really is a Bielefeld!). However, the statement's publication date – April 1, 1999 (April Fools' Day) – was ill-chosen as it unwittingly played right into the humorous conspiracy.
 
user1804599
lol
 
user1804599
> Belgium is very famous for the fact that nobody really knows anything about the country, including the Belgians themselves.
 
9:45 AM
morning
 
9:57 AM
evenin'
 
user1804599
hi
 
10:18 AM
>If you're relatively new to programming

Choose a language and stick to it. Python or Ruby is probably best; JavaScript and many others are also ok.
Ffs
 
10:42 AM
hmm
I have an odd tree structure where when you create the new node, it automatically registers itself for ownership with the parent, so you just do like auto node = new Node(); and it's all fine.
seems kinda odd.
 
user1804599
lol
 
user1804599
10:56 AM
ugh
 
user1804599
C-style variadic function with no array-taking equivalent.
 
user1804599
Now I have to fucking use libffi.
 
11:39 AM
Urgh fucking focus
 
lol
 
11:59 AM
was it any good?
 
yes my crumble was delicious
 
user1804599
Let's eat.
 
user1804599
I hope there's pea soup.
 
12:21 PM
@bamboon lol, I thought you were asking for something to be installed on Coliru and had to google EFMC++.
But, yeah, I have an e-book version.
 
user1804599
Is there a name for this algorithm? coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/0fd69c7423c7b2b5
 
user1804599
I came up with it under the shower.
 
looks like a weird sieve of eratosthenes
 
@StackedCrooked ^^. How do you like it so far?
 
He did a very good job imo.
 
12:29 PM
Is only new stuff or does it also contain old stuff?
 
Item 22 is old.
All the rest is new.
 
cool
So would you recommend it for the average SO reader?
 
No, those are dickheads.
 
lol
 
I agree with his emphasis on understanding type deduction.
However, maybe there should have been a chapter called "Understand value categories" as well.
I should have suggested it, but too late now :)
 
user1804599
12:54 PM
yummy
 
user1804599
delicious sausage roll
 
@rightføld Meh.. I'm defrosting some chicken, but I'm hungry now:(
 
ugh shit
my head aches so fucking badly
and I agreed to do some overtime during the weekend
fuck
 
Downloading QT right now for my Introduction to Programming class project
A POP3 e-mail client should be good enough
 
user1804599
Wikipedia MathJax y u no work.
 
1:19 PM
yay payday
 
Morning
 
I don't remember. Why isn't there a get<Type>(..) function instead of the any_cast function, to retrieve the object of the correct type inside a boost::any?
It had something to do with how get would get called (like x.typename get<Type>(...) or something ugly like that).
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey no
 
user1804599
1:33 PM
std::any isn't a template.
 
user1804599
You are thinking of std::tuple.
 
I wonder if there's lefhandedblackgirlswhocode.com too
3
 
lol
 
user1804599
I guess because any_cast looks like static_cast and dynamic_cast.
 
@Jefffrey isn't there?
Ah, no.
 
1:34 PM
@rightføld Yeah, that was the intention
 
@rightføld he means T& t = boost::get<T>(any);
 
user1804599
I know.
 
Actually, the other way around - static_cast should look like a function template when invoked
 
That doesn't require any to be a template.
It's just named any_cast instead of get.
 
user1804599
1:35 PM
But you don't need x.template get if x is of type boost::any.
 
When do you need it?
 
user1804599
Only if it's dependent name but that rarely occurs with boost::any.
 
@Griwes What's mlp?
 
user1804599
template<typename T>
void f(a<T> x) {
    x.get<0>(1); // comparison or template arguments?
}
 
@Columbo My Little Pony.
 
1:36 PM
@rightføld That's why it should be global.
(How tuple did it)
 
user1804599
If I said boost::any instead of a<T> then the parser wouldn't be confused because it knows everything about the members of boost::any.
 
That was exactly the reason.
 
@Columbo you mean "namespace scope", not global :)
 
@StackedCrooked Global scope, yes.
 
Ell
I survived
 
1:37 PM
"Global namespace" and "Global scope" are two different things :)
 
user1804599
And the default is to assume comparison and if you want template arguments you have to add template keyword.
 
user1804599
Similar to typename.
 
@Columbo you said global, bastard!
but yeah
 
@StackedCrooked (Your mama is global?) :o)
 
Ell
Static cast does look like a template function
 
1:38 PM
@Ell Yes, that was planned
 
user1804599
@Ell But it wouldn't be C++ if it weren't.
 
@Ell with a special coloring
 
user1804599
horrible inconsistent shit
 
user1804599
special case bullshit everywhere
 
magic functions like static_cast are blue in my IDE
 
1:39 PM
@StackedCrooked Urgh, special coloring for std members in C::B
(Out of context)
It's drivin' me nuts
 
I don't care for the coloring of your members :P
 
std::string is fucking GREEEN
Is it an alien or..
 
Ell
Change it then :P
 
Too lazy
 
What I really like is the subtle highlighting of all usages of the variable that the cursor is at.
 
1:41 PM
@StackedCrooked What IDE you're using, btw?
(Apart from Coliru)
 
Qt Creator
 
:P
 
@rightføld Right.
 
@StackedCrooked I once worked with that, it's ok
 
That's probably it.
 
user1804599
1:42 PM
With an astonishing probability of 1.
 
@Jefffrey The general rule is: If you need templates with explicit argument lists, never make them a member of another template.
 
ahahaha Uplay's "uninstall" option for its games takes you to the add & remove programs thing
 
Ell
@Columbo why?
 
@Columbo Don't tell me what I can't do.
 
@Ell Because of the necessity of the template keyword in function templates.
An exception is Allocator::rebind.
And you can see the uglyness of it's invocation,.
E.g. in C++03: Alloc::template rebind<U>::type
 
1:44 PM
Beautiful.
:P
 
Then in C++11, using an alias template: std::rebind_t<Alloc, U> (or the like) could be possible
But it would stay that ugly for a member.
 
Ell
@Columbo why?
Foo<int>().bar<double>()
or do you mean in generic code?
 
@Ell Yes.
mom
 
Ell
Idk, that's like saying don't use stuff that you need typename for
 
template <typename T>
void F(T t)
{ t.template get<int>(); }
There we go
Actually there is a really nice SO Q/A for that, "Where and why to I have to put the template and typename keywords?" Or sth. like that
 

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