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12:00 AM
ok I laughed
 
rum and mead are best alcoholic beverages because they're basically just straight sugar
 
Ell
@aclarke okay, try ass-crack
And note that I said washing
Would you like to wash anyone's ass crack besides your own?
:P
 
user1646075
@Ell ditto. That way you can ensure its clean enough to meet your own personal standards for later
 
Xeo
oh, and prolly fruit sirup of some sort - cherry mead for example is just plain awesome.
 
@Ell some people do weirder things with their partner's asscracks
 
Ell
12:01 AM
@aclarke hmm. I guess
@AlexM. of course, why else would you be washing it? :P
 
user1646075
@AlexM. true. I won't go there beyond external. and it must be totally clean and smell like soap.
 
user1646075
I respect my digestive system.
 
Have we reached peak hipster when we are garnishing food with deer farts? http://t.co/X6F34iFzCM
 
got my iphone 6 lol
 
user1646075
@Ell don't dismiss ass crack as an erogenous zone.
 
Ell
12:03 AM
@aclarke that was my point :)
Why else would you need it to be clean if it wasn't an erogenous zone was what I was saying
 
user1646075
speaking of apple crap, on a price-for-price basis, would I get a solid android tablet that out-performs, say, a mid-range ipad for a very similar price? Only needs wi-fi and optional bluetooth
 
Xeo
whee
 
user1646075
@Ell yup. It really adds to the sensations. Personally I don't expect anyone to go there, and i've never met a girl who'd volunteer ;-)
 
omg it almost looks like a sumsang!
 
Ell
@aclarke not out yet and I haven't really looked into it at all, but the nexus 9 is probably a good bet
 
12:06 AM
@aclarke yeah, it just won't feel as smooth
 
user1646075
my 10yr old needs a tablet next year for school, and android is allowed. The ipad range is small enough to make sense of, but even just with samsung the range is bewildering
 
buying your kid a tablet, and not having them hunt their own in the wild?
 
user1646075
@corvid personally I find the apple interface limiting and annoying. a few more buttons on the body and an optional permanent menu goes a long way. I don't subscribe to the theory that a good interface has less controls with 50 million different uses.
 
it's a chance that games will run better on iPads than on Android devices, or so my experience was, but that's about it
I'd really like one of the Note tablets though
with the stylus
 
user1646075
@corvid if i did that, he'd probably go for a $1000 top samsung or whatever
 
user1646075
12:08 AM
@AlexM. interesting point...
 
user1646075
the simple list of ipads makes it a no-brainer to pick one, and the price admittedly surprised me as decent when I expected the price to be offensive...
 
my old iPad mini was definitely usable three months ago when I gave it to my mother
I think it was two generations behind the current gen
in theory, my HTC One M7 has better hardware than the mini
however, games ran much better on the iPad
 
user1646075
@AlexM. they're allowed a bit of variety. Mini is probably as small a form factor as i'd want to make him suffer. Then again, a monster sized one would be silly.
 
user1646075
@AlexM. games are explicitly disallowed for school, in fact they'll be seriously limited to a strict list of apps. He has consoles and a laptop for entertainment
 
user1646075
also laptops are not allowed unfortunately, :-(
 
user1646075
12:11 AM
already splashed out for one of them
 
damn
we used to play CS 1.6 in school
well ok
 
user1646075
reckon! I'm also going to see if there's an android version of those things that are tablets which flip. I really should pay more attention to advertising...
 
user1646075
not sure the school would allow that either.
 
have you considered microsoft's tablets? lol
 
user1646075
yeah -them! but MS is not on the school list, because apps.
 
user1646075
12:13 AM
are there android microsoft tablets (if you know what I mean)
 
yeah
the transformer tablets from ASUS
 
Fuck init gist.github.com/TheCatPlusPlus/b269dc2ce679db0ded26 (current runit service is the 2 files below that huge monstrosity that doesn't even work properly)
 
user1646075
oh right. hmmmmm
 
but I think the transformer tabs can switch between android and windows 8 (for desktops)
 
user1646075
12:18 AM
@CatPlusPlus Huh? What's the {{ thingy }} syntax? what exact shell is pretending to be /bin/sh on your machine?
 
That's Jinja template that yields a final script
 
user1646075
@AlexM. dual boot?
 
user1646075
@CatPlusPlus oh right
 
user1646075
thought I knew all the regular shells inside and out...
 
@aclarke probably more than that, I think you can switch by pressing a button and it's done instantly, but scratch what I said, I only see a single transformer pad for sale right now, and it's android only
so no win8 stuff
 
12:20 AM
Debian has dash on /bin/sh still I think
 
user1646075
@AlexM. nice. Must ask the school! the fact it has the flippy keyboard might exclude it. They're concerned about phyical integrity too.
 
btw, have you considered chromebook?
it's cheap
and it's probably nicer to use than a tablet... unless you want a tablet
(i.e. touchscreen)
 
user1646075
no, but I will - I've mostly ignored all that stuff. I'm too much of a snob to not have a real keyboard.
 
user1646075
@AlexM. that's going to be the school's call. We must do what the teachers tell us!
 
that school sure is imposing a lot of limits :(
 
user1646075
12:22 AM
@AlexM. they seem to be more open than others. There was a meeting about it last night. One school they mentioned proscribed a specific Dell object
 
user1646075
some schools - apple only
 
they, like, force you to buy devices?
 
user1646075
@AlexM. yeah - it's a bit contentious. The new conservative govmint killed off the tech-for-schools project that paid for the current crop of devices
 
it would be an outrage if that happened in Romania
most people wouldn't afford good devices anyway
 
user1646075
12:24 AM
so yeah, it's a burden. One guy in the meeting raised the fact that he has 3 kids each 2 years apart, and the cost will be a real burden. Brave of him to stand up.
 
also what do you use tablets for in schools
did pen and paper somehow become obsolete
 
user1646075
yup - it should be an outrage actually, but when your country is sufficiently middle-class, people lose their balls and put up with slow and steady erosion of living standards.
 
user1646075
no, they also made it quite clear that they won't be ignoring the basics. But tech is inevitable and also a really good tool for presenting material etc. I'm fully with the program, but the expense is a pest. Fucking govmint scumbags.
 
damnit, i need a quadcopter for halloween
 
user1646075
@Borgleader I like. Paint it black too
 
12:27 AM
this reminded me that in high school I had to program in borland pascal on a windows vista machine
 
Xeo
aaah, JonTron. Still one of the best.
 
Grrr supervisor doesn't start up before I try to start services
 
> Remarks:
Unless T is a user-defined type with overloaded unary operator&, these functions shall be constexpr functions.
 
I still can't comprehend how the thing with your school can happen
what about people who can't afford devices
what about kids who can only get low end devices while others get high end devices
 
Any clue as to how that’s implementable, practically speaking? I don’t think there’s any way to make it airtight.
 
12:33 AM
I'd choose to homeschool my kids if I were you
 
I mean the part to detect an overloaded &.
 
user1646075
@AlexM. the school principle is promising to look after people having problems. The range is limited, and also the kiddies at this school seem to be well-trained about not being dicks to each other.
 
user1646075
@AlexM. it happens because the 1950's seems to be taking over australia for the last 15-20 years. The rednecks//W.A.S.Ps/conservatives fight back!
 
it's just wrong imo, and tablets are nothing necessary
 
user1646075
@AlexM. we are on the same page.
 
Xeo
12:37 AM
@LucDanton I don't think you can really do that - I don't quite get the requirement itself though, for which functions is that?
 
Ell
yeah I'd prefer a very portable laptop to a tablet
I have a nexus 7
 
Xeo
The best you can do is check for constexpr &declval<T&>(), and check if its type is the obvious T*. Other than that...
 
@Xeo operator-> for optional, which needs to ‘work’ in a constexpr context.
 
Xeo
hot damn, already 1:30
I should sleep
 
@Xeo Actually so far I’ve been checking declval<T const&>().operator&(), since if that fails it roughly corresponds to the case where I can go &arg.
 
Xeo
12:39 AM
@LucDanton Hmm, I guess that works better
Didn't think of that way at all
welp, off to sleepz
 
Ciao.
 
I'll go sleep too
cya
 
user1646075
ciao
 
user1646075
sweet dreams
 
@LucDanton explicit operator call
should probably learn to scroll down lol
 
Xeo
12:42 AM
I'm even worse than @Rapptz at this trait stuff now, what has the world come to! (j/k)
 
It's been 2 years since I started learning how to use templates :v
 
Ell
I haven't been learning for long
 
1:04 AM
> error: the value of 'std::experimental::fundamentals_v1::is_constructible_v<_Tp, std::initializer_list<_Up>&, _Args&& ...>' is not usable in a constant expression
Experimental support for the variable templates of <experimental/type_traits>!
 
wtf std::is_trivially_constructible is missing
 
Ell
std wft::is_trivially_missing is constructible
 
1:31 AM
::wtf is now a valid namespace. If c++ needs a std::is_trivially_constructible I'm out of here.
It's next to If int is a valid typename I'd like to declare one as such.
 
2:12 AM
Hello Everyone!
 
I mean, I would like to input a fraction in the form a/b using the insertion operator >>
Quick question here: how do you overload the >> operator?
 
880
Q: Operator overloading

sbiWhat are the basic rules and idioms for operator overloading in C++? Note: The answers were given in a specific order, but since many users sort answers according to votes, rather than the time they were given, here's an index of the answers in the order in which they make most sense: The Gene...

> 2That is say "one thousand", "five hundred", "two hundred", "one hundred", "fifty", "fourty", "thirty", "twenty", "retard"3 (and "ten" or "five" when it stops saying "retard" and the wheels are not on the ground yet). This is useful during approach so the pilot can concentrate less on the instruments and more on outside reference and in the final phase to help judge when flare should be initiated. It will also warn "sink rate" when the sink rate is excessive (more than -1000 ft/min, the stabilized approach criteria).
 
2:32 AM
NASA seems to have suffered an err... KSP-style 'catastrophic anomaly' during an ISS resupply launch:)
 
Yeah. Too bad can't watch the video right now. :(
 
The servers suffering a catastrophic anomaly too?
 
At work. Maybe at lunch I can.
 
Orite. It's quite spectacular, as you might imagine:)
 
I already saw some shots and yeah. Can't wait.
 
3:33 AM
 
4:05 AM
 
4:23 AM
Hi guys. Just started learning c++ and have been going over smart pointers. I'm using visual studio 2013. I wrote the line std::unique_ptr<unsigned> u(new unsigned(10));as a test, but I am getting the error Error: namespace "std" has no member "unique_ptr". Is this an issue with my compiler settings? Having trouble figuring out why it won't work.
 
4:34 AM
@Nooble nooo avatar yet!
 
@kin3tik #include <memory>
 
@Rapptz Thanks, that worked
 
5:19 AM
Hello Again...
 
5:40 AM
Anyone here?
 
user1646075
not often, at this time of the planet
 
user1646075
I'm just the night watchman
 
Hey where did you come from?
you were not there a second ago.
 
@aclarke Count me in.
 
Are you a robot?
 
user1646075
5:41 AM
the guard house out by the front gate.
 
user1646075
@MarkGarcia oh, the cleaning staff are here too.
 
Hi guys, I just have a simple questions
 
user1646075
when I say cleaner, I mean in the sense of those Steven Segall type movies...
 
@aclarke I forgot most of them, but I don't want to be one of the lesser ones on the enemy side.
 
5:44 AM
I need to overload the >> operator so that whenever I use cin>>x>>; and x being an object of my class, the promot ask me to enter a numberator and then a denomenator for the fraction
How can I do that?
Please no code, because I need to learn this stuff.
 
user1646075
"cleans up problems for people. People who are willing to pay for discretion."
 
user1646075
Sorry, the teaching staff are asleep, but they do take questions on stackoverflow.com
 
Yup. There are more specific questions/answers for your problem than the one I linked before in Stack Overflow.
 
user1646075
tell ya what, fix this rails unit test for me, and we'll deal.
 
Why are you fixing a unit test?!
:P
 
5:48 AM
@aclarke what do you mean by "fix this rails"?
 
user1646075
because they always break whne the thing they are testing grows
 
user1646075
bathroom rails.
 
user1646075
around this toilet of a code base
 
@aclarke s/grows/becomes more spaghettier/
 
user1646075
@MarkGarcia I tried to fit in nicely! all i did was add a new user permission type ;-(
 
5:52 AM
Also unit tests are for testing if something is broken and fixing the thing, not the test. So I presume there's some really bad things that goes into your codebase.
Or badder, as all codebases are bad.
 
user1646075
@MarkGarcia no presumption. it's gross.
 
user1646075
@MarkGarcia setting up the test objects seems to be where the problem lies. but I can't quite put my finger on it
 
user1646075
the problem appears to be in a mock object. fucking mocks. what an ingenious idea.
 
Yeah. Also one of the bigger reasons why most people stay away from writing tests.
 
user1646075
:-( but they're so fashionable. I sense great beginners enthusiasm in this code
 
user1646075
6:03 AM
much knowledge must be locked away in the heads of programmers long gone. It's certainly not in any comments.
 
user1646075
6:20 AM
CRACKED IT! /mumbles - should never have worked in the first place.
 
user1646075
 
Why quote an image?
 
user1646075
some would say it's nsfw
 
user1646075
hedging
 
Hm, I see. Nice hack.
 
user1646075
thanks.
 
6:43 AM
Have you thought about becoming a programmer?
 
user1646075
I did once, decided against it. Too aggravating.
 
user1646075
also can't stand customers, managers, and especially team leaders.
 
6:59 AM
You should become a teacher then.
 
> Upon hearing Huberty's expletive-ridden rants and seeing Neva Caine and John Arnold shot, one customer, 25-year-old Victor Rivera, tried to persuade Huberty not to shoot anymore. In response, Huberty shot Rivera 14 times; repeatedly shouting "Shut up", as Rivera screamed in pain.[1]
Vicious.
 
Link? (non-gore)
 
The San Ysidro McDonald's massacre was a mass shooting that occurred in and around a McDonald's restaurant in the San Diego neighborhood of San Ysidro on July 18, 1984. The perpetrator, 41-year-old James Huberty, shot and killed 21 people, including five children, and injured 19 others, before being fatally shot by a SWAT team sniper. The shooting remained the deadliest mass murder committed in America until the 1991 Luby's shooting, and remains the deadliest shooting rampage in which the perpetrator was killed by police as opposed to suicide. == The massacre == === Prior to the massacr...
It's very detailed.
 
maybe she should have bet on reverse psychology and beg him to shoot her
 
I read a lot of morbid stuff on wikipedia
It's typically not this detailed.
 
7:07 AM
I read plane crash articles.
 
Those are rather tame and lame for my morbid curiosity :v
 
did you read about the nasa rocket?
 
The weirdest part about this massacre is that no one had a gun or a weapon to kill the guy with.
He just kept going at it.
 
@StackedCrooked s/rocket/rockets/
 
A lot of the stuff here is legitimately messed up.
> Three 11-year-old boys then rode their bikes into the west parking lot to purchase soft drinks.[15] Hearing a member of the public yell something unintelligible from across the street,[1] all three stopped their bikes and hesitated, before Huberty shot all three boys with his shotgun and Uzi.
What a shitty day.
 
7:10 AM
WTF
 
Heh this guy was really cruel.
> Almost immediately after shooting the three boys and trying unsuccessfully to focus his weapons upon Lydia Flores and her daughter, Huberty noted an elderly couple, Miguel and Aida Victoria, walking toward the entrance. As Miguel reached to open the door for his wife,[17] Huberty fired his shotgun, killing Aida with a gunshot to the face and wounding Miguel.
I'm seriously dumbfounded that it took that long for cops to show up.
 
His wife didn't report?
 
It took 1 hour and 20 minutes of this guy shooting people for the cops to kill him.
 
Just like in the movies.
 
Dang. Sniped in the heart.
 
7:21 AM
cupido swat
 
You know
With so many school shootings here in America
Despite the very low probability of it happening statistically, I'm quite glad it never happened to me.
Sounds like a terrible way to die.
 
Where is the question where sbi explains UB, I've been looking for it, and can't find it?
 
106
A: Is delete[] equal to delete?

sbiWhether this leads to a memory leak, wipes your hard disk, gets you pregnant, makes nasty Nasal Demons chasing you around your apartment, or lets everything work fine with no apparent problems, is undefined. It might be this way with one compiler, and change with another, change with a new compil...

 
@Rapptz Especially if you're the first one shot and killed. Just it, bang.
 
Thanks
 
7:28 AM
 
lol
They're too lazy to update two articles with the current rate of shootings.
 
Xeo
7:58 AM
> Hundreds of millions of dollars worth of equipment, ranging from “classified cryptographic” gear to school science experiments, was destroyed in a giant fireball on Tuesday evening after technicians detonated a self-destruct mechanism six seconds after launch because of a “catastrophic” equipment failure.
Oh, so part of the explosion was planned
> “The asset stopped, there was some, let’s say, disassembly of the first stage, after which it fell to earth,”
 
Whats that from?
 
@Rapptz Wasn't the delete operator deprecated in C++11? ;-)
 
user1804599
8:28 AM
It gave me an abortion. — Skurmedel Apr 15 '11 at 15:36
 
user1804599
nice
 
user1804599
UB can also lead to postnatal abortion, which is brütal.
 
Hey guys!
Quick question: has anyone here ever used the JUCE libraries? It looks like it's slimmed down Qt on steroids. But that's just a first impression...
 
Xeo
8:45 AM
This code... ;__;
 
user1804599
@rubenvb lol
 
user1804599
only API documentation and a non-free book
 
user1804599
 
Hey you guys! Head over to Humble Bundle, give them your email, and get yourself a free copy of Teleglitch: Die More Edition.
2
 
user1804599
> JavascriptEngine
> LuaTokeniser
> MidiFile
 
user1804599
8:50 AM
Does too much/10 would never use.
 
user1804599
@thecoshman no
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes nice enough read, but seems to end without any conclusion or point being made... but then, I guess when you talk through history and come up to 'now' that's half the point, it keeps going.
 
Xeo
9:08 AM
oh gawd this code is FUBAR...
 
@thecoshman I wrote it more for fun than anything else.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no harm in that
 
user1804599
@Xeo you mean SNAFU
 
Xeo
I meant what I wrote.
 
user1804599
No.
 
Xeo
9:15 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes For fun? Why didn't you include the Fall of Conceptinople then?
 
@Xeo don't you mean the rise of Istanbul? :P
 
The rise and fall of instanceof.
 
user1804599
9:32 AM
Infinite floating point is nice.
 
user1804599
(defn iota [start]
  (range start Double/POSITIVE_INFINITY))
 
> Today’s key fact: you are probably wrong about almost everything
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes OK, I re-checked the freezer and fridge. Nope, I was right: I need to go shopping or starve.
 
Xeo
9:50 AM
T_____T
 
10:20 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes and definitely wrong about the rest.
 
Someone remind my aging brain: where did Zoidberg go again?
 
@rubenvb he turned into Rightfold
 
Ell
He evolved
 
@TonyTheLion See, I'm not quite sure of that :-p
 
@Ell s/ e/ de/
 
10:32 AM
@rubenvb technically he is wrongfold, but yea
 
> Muttable
 
Ell
Puppy is muttable
 
user1804599
Hmm.
 
user1804599
Clojure reducers are interesting.
 
Ell
What do they do?
 
10:38 AM
@Ell make things bigger probably
 
Ell
Is it like aggregate?
 
user1804599
> A reducer is the combination of a reducible collection (a collection that knows how to reduce itself) with a reducing function (the "recipe" for what needs to be done during the reduction). The standard sequence operations are replaced with new versions that do not perform the operation but merely transform the reducing function. Execution of the operations is deferred until the final reduction is performed. This removes the intermediate results and lazy evaluation seen with sequences.
 
user1804599
And parallelized.
 
ugh, my headphones broke
a musicless day :(
 
user1804599
Buy new ones! Or are you broke too?
 
10:41 AM
I'll have to wait until friday to buy new headphones
 
@rightføld not sure I like the idea of a collection having logic... a collection should be just that, a bunch of stuff. Sure it can have logic for how to access it. But logic for manipulating what goes in and out is not part of that collection.
 
it'll have to be some cheap-yet-decent-ish headphones since I'll be using them at work
the pair that broke was made by skullcandy, it was ok, but this time I think I'll buy sony or philips
 
Xeo
So, according to our masseur / qi gong teacher my shoulders are extremly flexible. Good to know, I guess? I just wish my left leg was as flexible as it was before the whole herniated disc dealio :<
 
IIRC their low-budget selection is nice
I'm trying to listen on some headphones they gave me at work lol, cheap A4Tech crap
it's so bad
 
@Xeo the whole which what?
 
10:47 AM
sup
 
@BartekBanachewicz o, soup.
 
Xeo
@thecoshman I had a herniated disc incident at the start of the year, remember?
 
you know
simracing is actually pretty cool
 
@Xeo not in the slightest :P
 
Xeo
Well you suck.
 
10:48 AM
I have terrible memory vOv
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz not as fun as Micro Machines
 
well... not quite.
 
So, er, an ASIO io_service is just a big aggregated polling machine?
 
Some details I remember really well. But something like that is as good as never happening.
@Ell what a game.
 
Ell
@thecoshman I'm looking forward to the new one
although it probably won't feel as good because of the distinct lack of nostalgia
 
user1804599
10:50 AM
@thecoshman "knows how to reduce itself" means "has reduce overloaded for it" here
 
Ell
does clojure have multimethods?
 
@Ell how's that even remotely related?
 
Ell
Micro Machines is a racing game :P
I just wanted to bring it up because I'm playing it right now :L
just lapped snake lol
 
user1804599
@Ell Yes.
 
user1804599
With custom dispatcher per multimethod.
 
cpx
10:54 AM
I want to calculate mathematical expression from a string like "((1 + 2) * 3))" but what confuses me is the parentheses which can be anywhere and of any number
 
@Xeo Did it get fixed?
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Ye. My left leg's just extremely inflexible right now, and the pain threshold is pretty low for stretching :<
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Are we a Lounge yet? [c++] [c++11] [c++14] [c++-faq]
@Xeo oh I see
 
@TonyTheLion That's not very catchy.
 
@Ell yeah, and I was talking about simulators
 
10:57 AM
@FredOverflow You're free to change to something more catchy.
I'm uninspired at this moment, so I have no other ideas.
 
that's like comparing unreal tournament to chess, really
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, and I was saying racing games are much more fun :P
 
@TonyTheLion How about "Smart pointer. Unique, not shared."? Or is the reference too obscure?
 
@Ell have you played any simulator for longer than 5 minutes?
with proper hardware?
or do you assess that basing on something else?
 

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