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7:00 PM
@EtiennedeMartel haha I remember that
 
7:10 PM
@mahmood Yeah, that can be a problem, optimizations can mangle the straightforward assembly of unoptimized build pretty throughly. I like to call this micro-profiling uncertainity principle: you can't get both exact location of bottleneck in original source code, and the true bottleneck in optimized code. — hyde 42 secs ago
^ Wow, that's deep.
 
Assembly Quantum Mechanics
The search for the Hassembler Boson.
 
hello @ALL
 
@Droid28 Sorry, ALL hasn't been in today. He mostly hangs out in the real C++ room nowadays.
 
@JerryCoffin :)
@JerryCoffin you are C++ developer?
 
@Droid28 I've written a few bits and pieces of C++ at times.
 
7:16 PM
@JerryCoffin nice
 
morbid
 
Lol
Those are so morbid.
 
7:21 PM
evening all
 
all the morbids
 
7:37 PM
So, Pidgin asked me if I wanted to install debug symbols. I said yes.
 
What is this? typedef bool (&PF1)(); cdecl.org can't tell me :(
 
Hello
 
@rubenvb a reference to function? identity<bool()>::type&
 
my grapes are bigger than yours
 
7:41 PM
@Borgleader People have a hard time understanding radians?
Just knowing 1 circle is 2pi is enough to understand the whole thing imo
 
@Abyx ah yes, might explain why it doesn't work in a C gibberish reader.
 
Not this Tau shit again.
5
 
@Rapptz teachers have a hard time explaining it properly
its not complicated but a shitty explanation can confuse you even more
 
@Rapptz when something is new to you a nice explanation helps, nothing is really hard one could say, you just don't know it yet?
 
@JohanLarsson I would hope radians isn't a new concept to most people in here.
 
yeah I would also be surprised but the animation is still nice
@TonyTheLion dogs >> cats
 
@Borgleader iunno. Did you have a hard time with the unit circle?
 
lol someone on reddit posted this gif thinking it was a real "cybernetic" heart when in fact it's from Deus Ex Human Revolution (if you look closely it says Sarif)
@Rapptz I'm not saying I had trouble understanding it, I'm saying I've seen quite a few shitty explanations and they tended to confuse me more than anything.
 
@Borgleader ahahahah
 
7:47 PM
Like after I understood the concept I went back and read the explanation and it confused me
 
btw, I've gone through quite a lot of math classes and advanced math subjects but I don't recall ever using the unit "1 radian"
 
2001 a space odyssey: yea or nay?
(got it wrapped with my daily newspaper today)
 
Why does my banana have a QR code
 
@Rapptz Well they had to mention it at some point you can't just go and say "a circle is 2pi radians kthx bye"
 
Why is this implementation of result_of not giving me the right answer for these tests that are also in the Standards document?
 
7:50 PM
@Rapptz because bananas with barcodes are obsolete!
 
And why the hell would that first result_of need to be short?
 
Why does my QR code have a banana?
 
shit there goes my battery
I'm outta here. Goodday kind sirs.
 
Goodbye friend
 
@Borgleader I use my fingers as a way to tell radians.
and to do some basic trigonometry
 
7:55 PM
@Rapptz did you ever read Euclid's Elements?
 
Yes
 
just like Stepanov recommends :)
 
@Magtheridon96 I know a robot who has a banana.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Well, I know a very charismatic banana
 
Also, Ben Croshaw claims in his FC3 review that he's a banana.
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8:13 PM
Come on DH... I'm lagging on 240p
 
I forgot about Dreamhack
who's playing?
 
Naniwa vs Jaedong
 
wtf, the Leenocktopus finally dropped a map?
 
They have SC2 on tv in Sweden? I gotta move there...
Wtf did I just see.... Naniwa o.o what did you do
 
dat swede
 
This is getting out of hand
How safe is it to assume that a computer will have either 1 or 0 mouses connected and functioning at once and am I a crazy person for asking this!?
 
For some reason the "Smart Insight technology" from eizo reminded me of histogram normalization
 
@Borgleader Everyone in chat is like "Lol smart insight = turning up brightness"
 
I doubt it's just that
well it could be but the colors still looked ok
usually brightness makes everything white and ugly
 
8:41 PM
yeah
 
@Magtheridon96 the last time I saw a computer with more than one mouse connected was my friend's amiga 500. And that must have been around, oh, say, 1994 maybe
 
but it does show the value of good marketting
 
also the problem with that is it ruins the visuals, things that should have been dark because the level designer/artists decided they should be no longer are
 
@Borgleader Simple fact: ultras don't do that much damage to Archons or Zealots
and the Archons/Immortals do plenty back
it was still a fucking amazing hold though
 
@jalf I wasn't even born in 1994
Bleh, I'll go with the assumption
 
8:42 PM
@Magtheridon96 Holy shit, you whippersnapper
 
Young people today, etc etc
also uphill both ways in the snow, now get off my lawn
 
pffft
I had to go uphill both ways in the sun
that's way wors
 
well, I had to go uphill both ways ON the sun
so there
 
lol
probably explains the terrible economy to pay for all that space travel :P
 
I'm going to miss out on all the cool shit :(
 
8:47 PM
unfortunately
there's still plenty of cool shit to go around
like homophobic Frenchmen
 
also, mandatory link now
 
I can't survive in space ;_;. My terrible body condition wouldn't even allow me to exit the atmosphere
 
aaah, Monty Python
 
omg dat song is so old.... DH where do you get your tracks, 1990s?
 
9:02 PM
Is COM1 a valid name for a serial port on windows?
 
> Some day in the future: "You were lucky! When we were kids, we used to not have to work, do no chores, not get jobs, have our parents pay for our cars, cell phones, iPods, laptops, school, clothes and food, all while not being able to tell us what to do because they were either too lazy or too dumb, and have to go to bed at night whenever we wanted with nothing to comfort us but Facebook." ahahaha
@Pawnguy7 COM1:,, yes
 
Is the ":" important?
 
I'm planning on paying my dad back for all the things he's done for me. Unfortunately, he wouldn't accept anything
 
@Magtheridon96 You're beating him up real good?
> Really? Bad translation from one language to another using a book? Racist? Some people unable to interpret another language using a book? Racist? Nah! I'm sorry but you are overdoing it. Bad translations are universal and more commonplace than you know.
> For crying out loud, anglophones insist on using the french term Coup-de-Grace and still pronounce it Coo-de-Graw which baffles me because grace is an english word so worst case scenario, they should pronounce it Coo-de-Grayss which they don't. oh my
 
He had to pay $600 the other day while I was in the hospital getting a CT Scan for my digestive system.
 
9:12 PM
YT comments gonna keep me awstruck, methinks
@Magtheridon96 Aw. Yeah, that's tough. (Still, would have been kinda more funny if that had been sarcasm in good lounge spirit)
 
He doesn't even care about the money
 
Mmm. That's good, I suppose.
You know, it's easy to not care about money once you have it I just realized that's probably not statistically proven... :(
 
Would anybody like to help me?
 
what is an external compiler
 
Hurray for power shortages.
 
9:23 PM
@DeadMG Leenock: Lets see how you like infinilife ultralisks
 
lol
also
referring to Leenock without calling him Leenocktopus is a crime
 
Ell
hi
 
Also, what the fuck is jucheck.exe and why does it keep requesting elevation?
 
I think it is the java autoupdater, but I might be wrong.
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel Java Update Scheduler
 
9:26 PM
Oh well, I really have no incentive to let that thing run, now, do I?
 
Xeo
Or Checker
There's also jusched.exe
Which is the scheduler
 
so what is an external compiler
 
Perhaps it is a compiler that is external.
 
extern compiler comp;
 
did you ever figure out your c++-cli problem?
 
9:28 PM
@Johann google it
 
Sooooo. Our troll is back, and you guys haven't... him yet?
 
which one?
 
Ell
I hope I'm not a troll :O
 
Lounge<DouchyMcTroll>
 
I hope it is not me
just to clarify I was asking a question
 
9:31 PM
yeah we got that from "so what is..."
 
I forgot a ?. That could cause confusion among some people.
 
@Johann Congrats: You have won the internet!
 
Would any of you fine SOians care to help me with Boost?
 
@Pawnguy7 Not unless you are going to get a whole lot more concrete.
And your best bet is likely Stack Overflow main site
 
Well, I wanted it to target serial ports, that is all. That would be Asio. It builds, but... throws exceptions.
I am just not sure if I am using the code wrong, or it occurs at the first instance of the link not working.
I did ask.
That is how I got it built.
 
9:35 PM
@StackedCrooked Oh, btw I think feedback is broken. As is coliru on the whole for Opera (no code shown at all, not editable anymore). I tried to supply feedback - (two different, actually) - and nothing showed up
 
Thats weird because Opera uses webkit now
 
@StackedCrooked The other bit being clang being unable to compile something with boost due to mssing headers
 
and it works on chrome iirc
 
@Borgleader Right, not mine. Opera "is going to be using webkit in the future"
 
my bad i thought it already did
 
9:36 PM
How the hell does it make sense that they "just" replaced their entire rendering FE in just a few week's time :)
 
They could have been working on it for a while
and only announced it recently
 
@Pawnguy7 "It" builds, but ["it"] throws exceptions? What is "it"?
 
his program
 
@sehe the thing
 
The program.
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A: How to use boost asio

mkaesYou don't give us much information, but because of cl I assume you are running under windows. So first you need a shell with you compiler in the path. Use the Visual Studio command prompt. Check that you can call cl on the prompt. Second follow the build instruction. It should be as simple as d...

 
9:38 PM
obviously
 
@Borgleader You know, news doesn't reallly work that way
@Pawnguy7 Aha. Thanks. (Funny how you link to the answer, which ominously begins with "You don't give us much information")
 
...
 
I realize that, looking back.
 
DAT RECALL
 
Although... hm. I didn't think I specifically went to the question, but perhaps my most recent tab of it was looking at his comment.
 
9:39 PM
@Borgleader TOTAL RECALL
 
you watching DH too?
 
@Pawnguy7 Mmm. Have you found the VCVARS32.bat or similar thing yet? 'Cause if you run it and it doesn't find CL.exe, then there isn't a C++ compiler installed. Period.
 
@Borgleader Duck hunt?
 
Dreamhack you nub
 
@sehe No, I got that part done, the library built.
 
9:40 PM
@Pawnguy7 You're confusing the hell out of me. What on earth are you trying to say?
> I have run bootstrap.bat, it failed citing that it cannot find "cl". The build script is the same.
^ that no longer relevant, then?
 
That was old news, sort of.
With the answer I linked to.
I got it built.
 
Sooooo. Why link to it, then?!?!?!
 
The program throws exceptions.
I am not sure if I am using the wrong library or not.
 
check if it says boost.asio on the box
 
@Pawnguy7 Which one? There is no code, remember? Linking to an unrelated, stale question doesn't help. It just serves as a smore shield
 
9:42 PM
I was using the code his last comment linked two, up to step two.
The only thing I changed was the name of the serial port - in windows, not... not sure if that is linux, os X, or both - to "COM1"
 
@Pawnguy7 has it occurred to you that might get better help if you don't structure your question as a puzzle?
 
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A: How to use Boost.Asio c++?

TomHow you use it depends on what you want to do, ;-). The documentation is found here: http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_46_1/doc/html/boost_asio.html You will find lots of examples that should suite your needs. For building, you should note that the library dependancies depend upon whether you a...

 
If the problem is "I compiled some code and the resulting program throws an exception", then it might just be simpler to say "here is the code, here is how I build it, here is how I run it, here is what happens when I run it"
 
@Pawnguy7 LOLOLOL EPIC ! That was sooooo obvious. You just made my day
 
than "here is a link to a question I asked about something else, but where under one of the answers there is a link to some code which is almost similar to what I compiled, and when I run it something unspecified goes wrong"
 
9:45 PM
I don't think that well after doing this for hours.
Sorry.
 
@jalf Except, no one knew it was about a comment whatsoever. We just have "read it all" (starting with the most irrelevant stuff) and somehow "guess it all"
 
@Pawnguy7 then... maybe get some sleep or something? :p
 
@Pawnguy7 Then, quit
 
I want to get it working though.
 
If you don't think well enough to ask the question, then you won't get much out of the answer either. Take a break.
 
9:46 PM
yesterday, by sehe
@Pawnguy7 Your speach is utterly incoherent. You appear explain yourself, while countering your own apparent musings on the fly. If you meant to say/ask something, you should perhaps try to prevent the internal dialogue from leaking into your utterances too much
^ have you had any sleep since then?
 
Yes :D
 
@Pawnguy7 Sounds like you could do with some more though.
 
Want ideone's of the code?
 
@Pawnguy7 Then lay off the marihuana
@Pawnguy7 On Stack Overflow, yes!
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std::cout is not thread-safe, is it?
 
Xeo
9:49 PM
Only says that no dataraces will be introduced by individual operator<< calls, IIRC.
 
Ah.
 
Xeo
So you won't have interleaving characters.
I think
 
That explains why individual pieces of my lines are exploding into other pieces of the lines
newlines appearing way later than they should
 
yup
 
@ThePhD Build a string and then output that.
 
Xeo
9:50 PM
Or...
 
I guess I need to write a synchronized flush / logger
 
Xeo
wrap it! :D
See Herb's video
 
hm, what if change streambuf of std::cout?
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk then all output to cout gets redirected elsewhere
 
Xeo
I think it's the streambufs that do the actual streamlocking
Could be wrong, though
 
9:51 PM
@Xeo yes, I think too
it can't be locking in std::ostream
 
@ThePhD Didn't I point this out to you once before?
 
@JerryCoffin You did.
I just wanted to know if std::cout was threadsafe itself
or had some kind of gauruntee to it and subsequent operations
 
Xeo
Yeah, that
Watch that
 
That idea is quite natural/obvious in C++11
 
9:55 PM
@JerryCoffin This is what I've come up with thus far for an automatically asynchronous log, based of of what you showed me and what @StackedCrooked showed me.
@EvgenyPanasyuk I will watch that soon
I suck at Markdown.
 
Xeo
Not soon, now.
 
@ThePhD I'm far too lazy to write my own code for it if the standard already guaranteed it.
 
@Xeo But.. but ubt... I wanna try to finish my Log/Logger first... ;~;
 
Xeo
Log verbosity as a member of the log? Not sure...
 
Links to ideone must be accompanied by code?
 
9:58 PM
@Pawnguy7 That's... the point fo ideone?
 
@Pawnguy7 Why else would you link to ideone?
 
No, that is what SO said when I linked to it.
 
I guess he asks if he should duplicate code in SO Answer near ideone link
 
@Pawnguy7 Ideone links might die in the future. You should be able to minimize the sample to fit in your question
 
I usually do duplicate:
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A: Which std::async implementations use thread pools?

Evgeny PanasyukBlack-Box Test Though "white box" check can be done via inspecting boost, libstdc++ or libc++ sources, or checking documentation like just::thread or MSVC Concurrency Runtime, but I can not deny myself the pleasure of writing C++11 code! I have made black-box test: LIVE DEMO #define BOOST_THR...

 
10:00 PM
Does it... autobox, sort of? Scrollbar?
 
@Pawnguy7 Yeah, because no one wants to have to jump through hoops to answer other people's questions. When people just link to ideone, it's usually a big huge code dump. And link can die, or the contents of the linked page can change. The question you have should go on the SO question page, so people can see it, including the relevant parts of the code
 
How can I forward indent code?
 
forward indent?
 
Ehm... just indent I guess.
The first line was code, but the rest dropped down a level.
 
It's a text editor, it really really isn't rocket science.
 
10:03 PM
Well, tab does not work. Space just erases it.
 
erases what?
 
All the selected code.
 
don't select the code then? Have you ever typed out text on a keyboard attached to a computer before?
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@Pawnguy7 For god's sake. Spend at least 10 sseconds READING SOME DOCUMENTATION next time. you're wasting such huge amounts of time
 
How do you propose I indent the code if it isn't selected?
 
10:04 PM
if you click somewhere, then the next character you type while appear there. Try clicking with the mouse somewhere and then press the space bar
 
Both yours and ours
 
@Pawnguy7 by typing a fucking space before it
OR
 
This is going to take a while.
 
Mardkown fail
 
you could investigate the magic buttons above the editor
 
10:05 PM
or just select it and press ctrl+K
 
@Pawnguy7 No it's not, because you're going to leave chat and we'll ignore you.
 
maybe someone have thought that "it would be nice if people were able to mark blocks of text as code, and have it indented at the press of a button"
 
Just post the damn question and I'll edit it for you
 
Why couldn't you tell me control + k before?
 
@Borgleader Sadly that's been broken on Opera for quite some time
@Pawnguy7 BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE FOR YOU TO READ
(suppressing the name calling just there)
 
10:07 PM
@Pawnguy7 Because you didn't ask "what does control + k do?". You asked "how do I indent", and the simplest way to indent is to put a goddamn space before the text you want indented
 
sounds like a newb war going on. I'll get the popcorn.
 
@DeadMG LOL MUTALISKS
 
Sigh. Ok. I edited it. How is it now?
 
@Borgleader stack them
 
Just only a few hints of information RIGHT THERE on the screen.
 
10:08 PM
@Pawnguy7 We didn't know if it was a single line or a block of 200 lines of code that you wanted to indent, nor how much you wanted it indented. You asked how to indent, we told you. Your laziness and inability to read text is not our fault, nor our problem.
 
If you're not blind, that's always going to be, at least 60x - 100x faster then asking silly questions in chat.
 
this popcorn is moist and delicious
 
@Johann Are you sure it's not cake?
 
@Johann Thanks for letting us know. My life has been enriched
ok, good night all
 
Xeo
night
 
10:10 PM
Me too, night all :)
@Xeo power lurker
 
Xeo
@sehe ?
 
Ok. So I edited it.
 
@Xeo I hadn't noticed you in the room yet
 
Ah the output locking thing. Yeah, I'm dividing my attention too much, sorry
@EvgenyPanasyuk Image not found
 
10:11 PM
@EvgenyPanasyuk image not found
 
^ that?!
Omegalisk. I get it now
 
What am I looking at?
 
@Borgleader Inorite
 
@EvgenyPanasyuk That was a strange misdirected reply-message then
 
Xeo
@sehe Ah. Then, good morning, good day, and if we don't see each other again, good night!
Or however that goes
 
10:13 PM
@Xeo hehe - sleep well
 
@sehe That's a lurker.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oooh. Maybe now I get it. But I'll refrain from jumping to any more conclusions
 
Xeo
I think I'll head to sleep too, though
night all
 
night
 
farewell
 
10:18 PM
@sehe They call it that because it lurks underground and attacks by impaling its enemies from below.
 
Can anybody look at the edited question?
 
BALLLLLLLLLLL OF STEEEELLLL
 
@Borgleader I'm also watching it, don't understand much at all :D
have not played much the last 20 years
 
yeah it takes a while to get into the strats & metagame
and the miiiiiindgames
 
I'm doing a beer++ and continue
 
10:32 PM
Anyone have time to briefly explain this function: i.imgur.com/1ynWfh2.jpg
(i.e. what happens when the right tree is empty)
 
are there any first person shooter games that will be broadcasted?
 
idk, I only watch the SC2 streams ^.^
 
talking about DN
 
@DeadMG DAT PICKUP
 
Ell
10:49 PM
I wish I could make games
 
make a minecraft clone in unity :P
 
Ell
Not another mine craft game :P
A 3d adventure would be nice
 
make x game in unity
 
Ell
A windwaker clone
 
something that doesnt require a lot of art
aka not windwaker
 
10:55 PM
Make something minimalistic. That way you can save up on the art assets and score points with the hipster gamer crowd.
 
omgawd fez is coming to steam
 
user142019
switch (psi) {
case 2300 ... 2500:    /* 2400 psi: LP tank */
    fmt = "LP%d";
    break;
// etc
}
 
user142019
I saw code like this, is that standard? :v
 
where did you see that?
 
@Borgleader Not actually watching right now.
 
@DeadMG well its over
 
user142019
Oh wait it's C. :|
 
ah well
no surprise that the Leenocktopus was victorious
 
it was close
naniwa brought it to game 5
 

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