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6:00 PM
@JerryCoffin Err... Boris.
 
@CatPlusPlus ah...
 
@JerryCoffin That's because it is the only thing that differentiates them.
 
Xeo
And then you can do &x perfectly fine.
 
@MartinJames Boris?
@bamboon Well, sometimes the tan makes a difference too...
 
@sehe I don't have any alcohol
 
6:01 PM
@CatPlusPlus Better fix that then.
 
@CatPlusPlus whatever. Or go for a few brews
 
It's too cold
 
Should I fire up the minecraft server, maybe. You guys can check how mumbling and mining combines :0
 
@JerryCoffin Boris Johnson - Mayor of London. Boris bonce-mop is ledgendary.
 
Launching now... Done. Everyone invited for minecraft /cc @LucDanton /cc @EtiennedeMartel
 
6:02 PM
Let's play the game with nuclear ninjas
 
Xeo
Cat, did you get the Mojam Bundle?
 
Sigh, your time zones are ALL WRONG. I can't play in the middle of the work day!
 
@JerryCoffin Or, more accurately, Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson.
 
@Xeo No, I've preordered Overgrowth though
 
Xeo
@sehe If I was at my work PC... I'm not sure how well FTB is gonna go on my home PC. :s
 
6:04 PM
Ideally, bashing people that are tools
 
@SamDeHaan You're not trying hard enough
 
@Xeo Wait. Wut. Did you reverse the places?
 
Xeo
@sehe ?
 
@CatPlusPlus But today was merit raises/promotions day. If I don't look like I'm working, they could take it back!
 
@Xeo Most people don't game at work
@SamDeHaan xD
 
6:05 PM
@SamDeHaan Promotion would give you even less time for games so it all works out
 
Xeo
@sehe The first time I logged onto your MC server was when I was at work. :P It was after-work time, though
The thing is, my work PC is a beast.
 
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Q: Bomb dropping algorithm

KostekI have an n x m board where there are placed some numbers. For instance: 2 3 4 7 1 1 5 2 6 2 4 3 4 2 1 2 1 2 4 1 3 1 3 4 1 2 1 4 3 2 6 9 1 6 4 I can drop bombs. Dropping bomb decrease a number by one (but doesn't make it negative) on field the bomb was dropped and all 8 neighbours (closest fie...

 
Xeo
My home PC... more like a housecat, in comparision.
 
^^ Is that by any chance NP-complete/hard?
 
6:07 PM
@sehe Where is your server?
 
Xeo
Also @sehe, I just remembered that my right mouse button is semi-broken. Not so good for MC :)
 
@EtiennedeMartel: Day9 playing simcity live
 
@Mysticial At least at first glance, I think it can probably be handled in polynomial time with dynamic programming, as long as there are fixed bounds on all the numbers (both matrix size and maximum value in a square). Haven't thought it through enough to be sure of that though.
 
@MartinJames In the data center
 
6:10 PM
@CatPlusPlus :)
 
0
A: Printing an array in C++?

FredOverflowMay I suggest using the fish bone operator? for (auto it = std::end(a); it != std::begin(a); ) { std::cout <<*-- it << ' '; } (Can you spot it?)

 
@JerryCoffin Yeah... it looks similar to: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_coverage_problem
 
@FredOverflow lolwut
 
@FredOverflow +1 for cuteness.
 
cuteness?
 
6:12 PM
@FredOverflow +1'ed
 
@TonyTheLion Whatever you prefer to call it.
 
Who can give access permissions to the wikidot? (@Cat/@R.Martinho)?
 
@TonyTheLion Sucks for him, but that means his service/website works
 
6:13 PM
@JerryCoffin Actually, the problem can be simplified by "playing" off of anything that has an 8 or higher.
If a square has 8, you're required to drop 8 bombs it anyway.
So you can drop it on all the neighbors to get maximum coverage.
 
Have I mentioned Ambrosia is awesome?
 
So you can do that automatically. It doesn't hurt.
 
@sehe Join the site first
 
In which case, the bottom-left 3 x 4 is completely zeroed out.
 
@Borgleader true enough
 
6:14 PM
I'm writing a project file for the (lib)FLAC source code stuff.
 
@Mysticial Not necessarily -- by dropping one each on all 8 neighbors, you can kill that square without dropping any directly on it.
 
And it's working mightily well for what I've already thought of.
 
@CatPlusPlus :)
 
@sehe I don't follow. Is that your own initiative? Or was starting the server a request?
 
@JerryCoffin I mean like, on it or the neighbors. Since you need to hit it 8 times anyway, you might as well hit all 8 neighbors to get maximum coverage.
So it's a greedy algorithm to reduce the problem size.
 
6:15 PM
NUCLEAR NINJAS
 
@CatPlusPlus I dunno.
 
@LucDanton I was taking the initiative in response to there being people gathered on mumble
 
^(photo) the most retarded thing ever
 
@Mysticial Ah, that makes more sense. Yes, it does let you study some pieces in isolation.
 
6:16 PM
@BartekBanachewicz plectrum in cover colour
 
@Mysticial I think a weighting function that simply goes through for the entire board and identifies which spot would be the most cost-effective to drop a bomb would be best. You're essentially moving a 3x3 kernel around the board and performing a specific convolution until that board has all 0s.
 
@ThePhD But is that optimal though?
 
@BartekBanachewicz What keyboard is that? black widow?
 
It'll probably be close to optimal. But not necessarily optimal.
 
in Java Sucks, 28 secs ago, by Michael
zoidberg java has gc
^ Oh, this is going to be interesting :)
 
6:19 PM
@Mysticial Well, the weighting would say "this is the best place to drop the first bomb". From there, you'd probably be able to simulate dropping the bomb and then trying again. You'd probably be able to rate any square that has an '8' at its edges very high with the weighting function. The more numbers closed to '8' on teh edges, the better it'll score.
 
@Borgleader yes
 
if I have a lib, how can I check whether it was compiled for 32 or 64 bit?
 
8 in this case is the magic number, because that's the size of the external spots of the convolution kernel. An 8 or higher in the center - but low numbers on the edges - would result in a terrible score, and would be seen as a "come back later" square.
 
@ThePhD You wouldn't have anything that has 8 anyway. All 8's (and higher) can be immediately eliminated by bombarding all the neighbors + itself the necessarily number of times to zero it. But yes, I can see how your approach would work as heuristic.
Not sure if it's optimal.
 
@Mys
Gah
Silly autocomplete should accept enter
 
6:21 PM
lol
 
@melak47 what os?
well, better put, what kind of library file?
 
@Mysticial your 'drop it all around the 8s' strategery is definitely not optimal on all maps either. If there's low numbers / zeroes, around part of the 8, your bombs could be significantly better used on other sides...
 
Maybe we can use that energy function distribution.
 
@SamDeHaan Good point.
 
6:23 PM
@rubenvb windows. it's a static boost library
 
@ThePhD good call, you want to prioritize squares whos sides are high, and middle is low but above zero.
 
@Zoidberg -100% - 100%, RTFM
 
user142019
@BartekBanachewicz y no Erlang. :(
 
@Zoidberg add it
 
I forgot what it was, but it was used in image processing to make that "Context-Aware Fill" that adobe has.
Maybe it could be used to identify the best spots to bomb...
 
6:24 PM
I've not used Ada. It was consensual
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Yay, multiplayer Excel!
 
Albeit you'd probably have to greatly change the rules.
 
@Xeo yeah
It's going in realtime!
I mean, the chart
it's pretty darn awesome
@Xeo come on, ifll yourself in
 
Xeo
Not enough exposure to languages beside C, C++, Haskell and Python, so nah
 
@Xeo then fill the ones you know
 
6:26 PM
@rubenvb I'm trying to link boost::chrono, and I'm sure it worked before, yet VS/MSVC says libboost_chrono_etcetc(chrono.obj) is x86 and doesn't match ma x64 target...so I'm trying to figure out if the .lib is actually X86, or if MSVC is reusing a chrono.obj from an x86 build for some reason...
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion I'm surprised you put Haskell at 100% when you don't seem to know it very well (unless I'm mistaking you here)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Totally needs actionscript 3 so I can raaaaaaage about how bad it is
 
@Xeo I know enough to recognize it's awesomeness
I did read about half of Learn You A Haskell
 
Xeo
@sehe: Needs some % signs, I think.
 
@melak47 hmm, every .obj in the .lib should contain the target arch somewhere
 
6:29 PM
There
Empties out all of my bad entries.
 
@Xeo @sehe is also bad at reading instructions. Supposed to be -1 to 1, silly.
 
Xeo
lol Wide
 
Aww
I liked Assembly. =[
 
@Xeo fill the ones you need
Assembly is not a language, so GTFO
and stop doing shitstorm
 
6:32 PM
Since when is Excel MP a thing?
 
this is hilarious
 
@melak47 running dumpbin /HEADERS some.lib shows me a line 8664 machine (x64)
 
where can I get this dumpbin
 
@Mysticial I suspect the OP is some malicious guy trying to decide if P = NP by work of others. Shame on you for trying to deceive us, Kostek! :P — brandizzi 1 min ago
^^ buahahaha
 
@melak47 MSVC...
It's part of the Microsoft developer tools.
 
6:35 PM
ah :)
yup, my "x64" boost build is actually x86. wtf
 
Boost should build all architectures in different build dirs
Or maybe not
 
@rubenvb oh god no
 
and LEAVE THE CHART ALONE
2
 
I thought it had prefixes and suffixes for just about everything.
 
ate big indian
2
now feel bloated
 
6:38 PM
I was sure that was the lead in to some kind of incredibly nerdy big/little endian joke. AND THEN YOU LET ME DOWN.
 
@DeadMG hate big endian?
 
user142019
Here.
 
user142019
An actually readable diagram.
 
What?
 
Why I am attracted to this way too much? :$
 
6:42 PM
Ah, humans.
 
Did they fix the damn servers yet? :(
 
@DomagojPandža Because of that blue arrow thing.
 
@DomagojPandža Probably.
 
 
I didn't know Lounge Minecraft is a thing. :(
 
6:45 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I think C got cut off the chart
 
@Zeta oh wow, I honestly thought they upgraded the engine.
Guess not.
 
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Q: Bomb dropping algorithm

KostekI have an n x m board where there are placed some numbers. For instance: 2 3 4 7 1 1 5 2 6 2 4 3 4 2 1 2 1 2 4 1 3 1 3 4 1 2 1 4 3 2 6 9 1 6 4 I can drop bombs. Dropping bomb decrease a number by one (but doesn't make it negative) on field the bomb was dropped and all 8 neighbours (closest fie...

^^ It got closed. :(
 
@rubenvb Yeah, when I heard about the HD remake I thought "gimme, gimme, gimme", but now it looks like... Well, AoE II, which is approximately two meters left from me.
Hm.
 
@DomagojPandža Haskell
 
@SamDeHaan I'm not a negative person
 
6:46 PM
I guess I just install AoE2, bb
 
@Mysticial WHaaaaat?!?!
Awww man. :c
 
@DomagojPandža It isn't.
 
yeah idd. I played that until the disc was too scratched to work. Then I got the AoE I&II Collector's edition and played AoEII some more :)
 
It is
 
@DomagojPandža because it's awesome
 
6:49 PM
Sorta
 
Bartek died
RIP
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Helloooooooooooooooooooo
 
Hey puppy is ranting on Mumble
 
HE'S ON MUMBLE?!
 
Is Mumble (loungeccp.sehe.nl @ default port ) working? :$
 
6:51 PM
@DomagojPandža Yes, 64738
 
apparently, 0 ppl, inf. ms
ahahaha
Damn phone.
 
Wow
All these sexy accented voices.
They make me want to finger myself.
 
> Post Reopened by Mysticial, rubenvb, Konrad Rudolph, Jerry Coffin, Tomalak
That was fast...
 
@ThePhD wtf
 
@Borgleader What? THey sound pretty good. You should get in it.
 
6:53 PM
sooo
 
@Mysticial that's because we love you.
 
@ThePhD youre not a chick!... are you?
 
@Mysticial Success!
 
a = ("lol") vs a = ("lol",)
 
@rubenvb It's not like I had an answer to give anyways.
 
6:54 PM
@Borgleader Of course not I'm a burly tough man. Of manliness. Even my voice is manly.
 
I'm more interested to see if someone can prove it NP-hard.
 
@Mysticial I thought it was an interesting question regardless the obvious lack of "what have you tried?" code.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It makes sense when you know that comma makes a tuple not parens
 
@rubenvb Yeah. That comment feels a bit out of place.
 
Xeo
Isn't there a site like Theoretical CS or something?
 
6:55 PM
@Xeo Yes, and they are all massive cocks.
 
a = ("a", "b",)
 
fucked is the term
 
Singleton tuples are not very useful in the first place
 
Okay. Dinner's done. Have fun! Maybe I'll drop by later
 
Besides, Java has syntax weirdness too
 
6:56 PM
who's Progeny?
 
I was getting distracted from my work so I had to quit Mumble. =[
 
Fuck work go Mumble
 
0
A: JAVA : How much space does BigInteger use?

poitroaeIt depends on the size of your number. more information in a second.

^^ lol FGITW gone bad...
 
@CatPlusPlus How on earth could that happen
 
@Mysticial that is so dumb.. I feel like downvoting and saying "Wrong answer as of downvote time"
 
6:59 PM
@CatPlusPlus I am?
 
@Borgleader It's what I did
 
@DeadMG You were
 
@CatPlusPlus about?
 

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