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9:00 PM
He's got 1 rep and isn't banned. I'm confuzzled
 
he's lurking, like a good citizen
 
Nemerle
 
@sehe You can lurk at any rep.
 
@Jefffrey Lurking doesn't show up in the user list
 
9:01 PM
but you need 20 to speak.
 
any hoops, I have late late toy shows to get a watching
 
Oh really
 
later chaps
 
Toy shows?
 
That's what he said
 
9:01 PM
like, strippers with toys?
 
@sehe well, entering the room does
 
@user3050665 Hello!
 
@Jefffrey TIL you can enter without 20 rep
 
I wonder what will happen now
 
@BartoszKP That's annoying to do if you know he can't reply
 
9:04 PM
:(
 
@sehe :(
 
is it bad that I sometimes want static if?
 
Well, I also didn't know that without 20 rep you can enter
 
Has anybody else noticed.
They seem to suck in whatever new communities they are in?
Or.. be bad at whatever it is, so to speak.
I seem to fail at every new area I reach.
 
huh?
 
9:05 PM
@sehe It's also annoying to talk about someone in 3rd person who is here :p
 
Everybody does it.
It's just a private thing and you should probably only share it with your direct family.
@BartoszKP Very.
 
Take here, for example, here.
Looking back, I did some odd things.
Before I understood everything.
 
@sehe You can enter without logging in either
 
@Pawnguy7 You're just more sensitive to the same signals. But yeah, everybody knows that feeling to an extent.
 
@sehe I should call a support group.
 
9:07 PM
@Pawnguy7 do you know anyone who is immediately successful at a new area they reach? ;0
 
@CatPlusPlus in which case you won't show up. This is what I was suggesting
 
@BartoszKP well know, I was just wondering if that learning period occurs always, everywhere.
^ know instead of no. I am strange.
 
@BartoszKP I know a few people that don't feel intimidated easily and consequently tehy seem to "just walk in and start winning". Yes.
There is no real difference. Just the appearance and the (self) perception
 
@sehe well yes, I meant, not taking me into account
 
What is the proper loungequette for editing a ping message?
 
9:08 PM
:)
So cute
 
> TL;DR: GHC HEAD (but not GHC 7.8) will soon support OverloadedRecordFields, an extension to permit datatypes to reuse field labels and even turn them into lenses.
Cool
 
Just don't do it. But if you must, make sure it pings at least 6 times for good measure!
:)
 
> Another advantage of unchecked_push_back is a better noexcept guarantee: indeed, it cannot throw as long as Widget's constructor doesn't (which is common for the intended use scenario). This is in contrast to the usual push_back which can throw due to a failed memory reallocation.
 
@Pawnguy7 I was also wondering about that! I make a lot of typos, and I can't help fixing them :\
 
I am so amazed by std-proposals.
 
9:09 PM
@sehe stay classy :D
 
I think they get batched - and people will tell you if it's annoying.
I don't count edits
 
It's beyond words.
 
Don't edit ping messages
 
@sehe how many edits were there?
 
"This message has been edited 9 times"
Don't edit ping messages
 
all right, so they partially got accumulated
I got 2 pings
 
@BartoszKP Not that one. That was 2 edits. chat.stackoverflow.com/messages/13239209/history
 
Don't ping in the first place
 
I try to avoid that.
 
when there are many conversations it is hard to follow without addressing
 
9:11 PM
Lol, I'm being throttled now. Funny
 
I think I was trained to do it.
 
Ping people?
 
I didn't use to as much.
Yes.
Probably not a bad idea for me, because I have a habit of assuming everybody knows what I am thinking about.
 
It's so quiet now, don't you think?
 
speaking of throttling - I forgot my data download from dataexplorer has finished today! I can do my statistics on closed questions
 
9:13 PM
 
:DD
 
@Pawnguy7 It's something that you get better at. And then, at some point you realize you became to adept at it that it might become annoying. I tend to remove pings within the grace time (uparrow, home, ctrl-del ctrl-del, enter)
 
@BartoszKP "Closed question. Yup, they're all closed. Ayup, they all suck"
 
@CatPlusPlus the questions is, is it true, that most closed questions come from fresh users without any rep
 
probably not
a lot of older questions back from 08-09 are closed now
 
9:17 PM
and how many good questions would be lost, if there was a rep bar for asking your first question
 
@BartoszKP I imagine many people became associated here by asking a question first.
 
@Rapptz I've managed only to get data from 1 Jan 2013 till more or less month ago
 
Xeo
@sehe Very annoying.
 
@Pawnguy7 probably yes
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus wait, wha
 
Xeo
Everything is becoming overloaded in Haskell!
 
@Xeo Sorry. I won't do it again
 
Xeo
@sehe lol, I meant SO throttling.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ;0 what's so revealing about that?
 
user1804599
9:23 PM
@EtiennedeMartel If it’s not sex, how is the second sentence relevant?
 
@Xeo lol I know :)
The ultimate remix (watch for dat flute drop): https://soundcloud.com/d-j-detweiler/miley-cyrus
2
^ now... for something completely different?!
 
@BartoszKP The fact that the Edmonton police department needs to make ads about something as obvious is kinda depressing.
 
@EtiennedeMartel geez. TIL
 
Ell
All of those rape posters target only female victims
 
@EtiennedeMartel yeah, all comes down to the fact, that most people are idiots
 
9:25 PM
@Ell Because most victims are female.
 
@BartoszKP They're either rapists or idiots. Sometimes both?
 
@Rapptz did you ever "hit the wall" in your math education?
 
@EtiennedeMartel source?
@Pawnguy7 not that I know of.
 
user1804599
 
@sehe : D
 
9:27 PM
@rightfold Thanks, Wikipedia.
 
lol the flute
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel :D
 
:D
> @LukeMaciak Cracked me up! That's awesome. Worth listening to the end.#ohgodcantbreath Tweeted by sehetw on November 29, 2013 at 9:23 PM in reply to LukeMaciak
 
The above study, although made in 1999, concluded that "Overall, an estimated 91% of the victims of rape and sexual assault were female."
 
@rightfold too old
@EtiennedeMartel 1997
 
9:28 PM
@EtiennedeMartel So, it's clear who poses the problem :)
 
Ell
also I swear we aren't allowed to use the "majority" argument in other places..
 
@EtiennedeMartel It says reported btw
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel Does it count people who were raped twice twice?
 
buttes
 
I don't know why the statistic is surprising.
 
9:29 PM
@Pawnguy7 lol
 
user1804599
It’s not, Rapptz is just trolling.
 
@rightfold I think that's statistically very unlikely. Of all victims raped more than once, I suggest that the average would be far higher (like, at least 20 times)
 
@Rapptz Define "not too old" then.
 
@rightfold No, I just think there's more to it.
 
In unrelated news, I found the word I couldn't remember earlier.
 
user1804599
9:30 PM
Churches. :F
 
Ell
> Based on aggregated data from the ‘Crime Survey for England and Wales’ in
2009/10, 2010/11 and 2011/12, on average, 2.5 per cent of females and 0.4 per cent
of males said that they had been a victim of a sexual offence (including attempts) in
the previous 12 months.
 
@Pawnguy7 They is surprising because we didn't anticipate the mass noun to become pluralizeds.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Something that isn't old enough to legally drive would be nice.
6
 
Shoot. I forgot it right when I was going to say it :\
 
9:31 PM
donges
 
Xeo
@Rapptz I'll decontextize that.
 
The major problem is that most sexual assaults are not reported.
 
damn son
 
going cherry picking/car camping these two days @_@
 
Congratulations on getting where I was going.
:P
 
user1804599
9:31 PM
Also, how about other species and unknown species from undiscovered planets?
 
Males that get raped surprisingly have a social stigma attached to it.
 
By many usual social standards I have been a victim of such things too. Not going to elaborate, but just saying: it does go more ways and people are just not talking about many things.
 
Ell
Just like domestic abuse by women
 
I would think any rape has a stigma attached to it.
 
user1804599
What is stigma?
 
Ell
@rightfold controversy
 
@rightfold It's like clysma. But less clean.
 
user1804599
> stigma |ˈstɪgmə|
noun ( pl. stigmas or especially in sense 2 stigmata |-mətə, -ˈmɑːtə| )
1 a mark of disgrace associated with a particular circumstance, quality, or person: the stigma of mental disorder | to be a non-reader carries a social stigma.
 
user1804599
> disgrace |dɪsˈgreɪs|
noun [ mass noun ]
loss of reputation or respect as the result of a dishonourable action: he left the army in disgrace | if he'd gone back it would have brought disgrace on the family.
 
user1804599
@sehe No idea what a clysma is either.
 
9:34 PM
@rightfold keep it that way
 
user1804599
> Clysma or Klysma or Qulzum was a village situated around the northeast Egypt at the northern end of the Gulf of Suez and at the southern terminus of the Suez Canal.
 
Ell
I think those rape posters paint men as bad people
 
user1804599
Ah, I see.
 
Een stigma is "een brandmerk", "aangeschoten wild". Je krijgt een "etiket" of een "stigma" opgeplakt: de hele bevolkingsgroep is gestigmatiseerd @rightfold
 
@Ell I take it this is a typo?
Or are we trying to make pens the bad guys?
 
user1804599
9:35 PM
@sehe Dus b.v. een verkrachte vrouw die uitgescholden wordt voor hoer? :v
 
Yup.
 
user1804599
lol “als”
 
@rightfold Da's behoorlijk stigmatiserend
 
pen are all bad people
paper too
 
Ell
@Pawnguy7 thanks :P
 
9:35 PM
@rightfold very very subtle
 
pencils
 
C++ is sexual assault in and of itself.
4
 
Ell
Well pencils are more dangerous than sharpeners right? o.O
 
All unmannered men stay in the pen!
 
9:36 PM
@Ell Depends on what you do with them
 
user1804599
De pen is van je zus.
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun nice entrance
 
PENISLAND where your dreams come true
 
@BartoszKP I didn't even need fireworks and a red cape!
 
@rightfold i dont think jesus had a van
 
9:38 PM
what an unfortunate domain name
someone didn't really think that through...
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun classy!
 
answers to all your questions lie on EXPERTSEXCHANGE
 
@CatPlusPlus ...
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus He was a hippie. Of course he had a van.
 
@CatPlusPlus psssst! domain names are CASE INSENSITIVE!
 
9:39 PM
ZOMBO DOT COM
 
@CatPlusPlus i love this one!
 
kind of like my teacher that wrote DP on the board as an abbreviation for Desktop Publishing
 
@CatPlusPlus zombo.dot.com is available
 
user1804599
@Code-Guru I was in a class with a guy called Dirk-Pieter and his nickname was DP.
 
lol
maybe DP isn't as dirty in Dutch...
 
user1804599
9:42 PM
Dubbele penetratie.
 
then maybe it is
 
Ell
public:
    // Constructor, should only be called by parent, not directly.
    Node();
 
user1804599
Epica.
 
Ell
Huh. Why is it public >.<
 
user1804599
Dat voice.
 
user1804599
9:43 PM
@Ell because it was designed by bad humans.
 
Ell
It is Ogre3D source after all.
 
no reading the ogre
 
@Ell ogres were meant to be ugly, right? ;0
 
user1804599
in Java Sucks, 7 hours ago, by rightfold
I think the number of feed items here says enough about why Java sucks.
 
Are GitHub wiki pages just stored in their own repo?
 
user1804599
9:48 PM
All I know is that they use Git.
 
user1804599
Don’t know if it’s a separate repository or just a branch.
 
@Code-Guru "just"? what would you expect them to do, dance?
yeah they're in their own repo but sometimes they go hog wild and just jump around the site
 
well as opposed to some other storage mechanism
 
its crazy
crrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrazy
 
user1804599
Cat, are you drunk?
 
9:49 PM
no
 
@CatPlusPlus Cray cray.
 
user1804599
 
im leraxing
my brian
 
user1804599
im relexing
 
user1804599
my code
 
9:50 PM
heh
i get it
heh
 
I'm regexing
 
(Sorry, it had to be done)
 
 
user1804599
Speaking of lexing, ECMAScript is a terrible target language.
 
user1804599
9:54 PM
Fucking lack of goto.
 
@rightfold dat pun
 
user1804599
@sehe the crown looks Dutch.
 
user1804599
I could emulate goto with named loops, but meh.
 
Ell
@JohanLarsson We have just been doing the electrochemical series in chemistry at school
 
9:58 PM
do you know the answer?
 
Ell
Not at the minute
 
@JohanLarsson sounds like one for Randall from xkcd
 
user1804599
Also goto case. Hmm.
 
user1804599
I hope ECMAScript supports Duff’s Device-like structures.
 
An algorithm condition reads if(j <- m - 1) ... I would assume that's notation for assignment to j and checking j != 0, can anyone confirm?
 
10:03 PM
@rightfold Sorry, it doens't support structures. :(
@robjb Meh. That's the comes-from operator. Read about it in any beginner's text book
Your compiler can confirm. Be sure to specify -x quirksmode or -std=php3 to the compiler
 
@sehe Thanks. I never read my algorithms book at univ., it was horribly written. Do you have a favorite?
 
user1804599
@robjb Most likely.
 
@sehe lol
 
I usually stick with research journals, my book collection is pretty lacking
 
user1804599
It would only mean smaller than -m - 1 if it was written by morons.
 
user1804599
10:08 PM
In pseudocode <- often means assignment.
 
@robjb He's kidding, It's pretty likely it's assignment.
 
Ah
 
user1804599
Dat weather.
 
I'm pretty gullible, thx for the heads up.
 
@Rapptz Depends on the language.
@robjb (you started it)
 
10:09 PM
fuck off scott
 
@rightfold Like, 80% chance then
 
Ell
gah. Why do people insist on using "hack" when they really mean "I gave them my facebook password and they go on my facebook now and I'm fine with it"
 
@sehe Did I?
 
@Rapptz It would appear I didn't make it obvious enough :( php3 and quirksmode in one line. ...
 
@ScottW oh sorry, I meant: fuck me scott
:)
 
10:11 PM
@robjb By barging in with inane questions with zero context. This is lounge<C++>, so that's the context for me: In c++ it obviously means !!(j < (-1-m)) but I thought you might be referring to the goes-to operator
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Q: What is the name of this operator: "-->"?

GManNickGAfter reading "Hidden Features and Dark Corners of C++/STL" on comp.lang.c++.moderated, I was completely surprised that it compiled and worked in both Visual Studio 2008 and G++ 4.4. The code: #include <stdio.h> int main() { int x = 10; while( x --> 0 ) // x goes to 0 { pri...

 
I'm bored :/
 
@Rapptz how's your snake going (inb4 penis)?
 
@Rapptz You're easily bored. I didn't even put any effort there, now.
 
@sehe Sorry, I didn't feel that I was barging in. I lurk here alot. I also assumed the word algorithm gave it the context of pseudocode, but that's my mistake, and I'm sorry if I offended you.
 
@Jefffrey I didn't bother actually. :D
 
10:14 PM
@robjb You didn't. I was amused and have my ways to indicate that the lack of context made the question ... ludicrous. As you have found out :/
 
That said, I saw the compiler comment and didn't realize it was directed at me. It does make it all very obvious :)
 
> My wife gave birth to an almost full term little girl weighing 6 lbs 9 oz today. My mind is completely blown right now. We had absolutely no idea she was pregnant.
 
@robjb You know, algorithms are much more often expressed in formal languages, for obvious reasons.
 
wot
 
@Rapptz Oh, I wish I could see some good C++ code in the context of game development :,(
 
10:15 PM
Yes I've definitely found that out, lol
 
@Rapptz Surprise :)
 
And yes I do, it was a stupid assumption :)
 
One for the priate:
Muphry's law is an adage that states that "If you write anything criticising editing or proofreading, there will be a fault of some kind in what you have written." The name is a deliberate misspelling of Murphy's law. Similar laws have also been coined, usually in the context of online communication, under names including Skitt's Law, Hartman's Law of Prescriptivist Retaliation (or The Law of Prescriptive Retaliation), and McKean's Law. Further variations state that flaws in a printed or published work will only be discovered after it is printed and not during proofreading, and flaws suc...
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^ Actually, that's what happened to @Rapptz earlier :)
("intolerable to medication")
 
Ell
10:17 PM
I wonder if uml is completely worthless
 
not a bad idea dat
 
not a bad idea at all
 
Ell
really? :P
 
I would buy the shit out of it
 
10:21 PM
@sehe My father would like that one, he's always bringing up Murphy's law for some reason or another
 
@Ell everything is completely worthless, until you use it to create something of value.
 
I don't know how to properly provide a binding for lua functions to C++ and vice versa :(
 
user1804599
Hmm.
 
@Rapptz I don't see anything special. Besides your sand-colour trousers
 
user1804599
Allowing static functions and constructors in interfaces would be nice.
 
user1804599
10:26 PM
For constraints.
 
@Ell Oh you know better :)
 
@sehe Not my picture. Trackpad is on top rather than bottom.
 
@Rapptz Oh, I've seen that before. What. Are. They. Thinking.
 
user1804599
I also need a crtp keyword.
 
No! Think of all the collisions!
 
user1804599
10:30 PM
I have something for that: prepend # to the identifier.
 
user1804599
Need that for ECMAScript compatibility anyway.
 
@sehe They're thinking the heel of your hand won't accidentally move the cursor as you're trying to type. At least if that's what they should be thinking (and so should you).
 
user1804599
interface Foo[crtp T] = …
class Bar : Foo[Bar] = … // fine
class Baz : Foo[Bar] = … // erreur
 
So. I was sitting here looking at my rep, thinking... why is this such a beautiful number? Turns out, 96598 is 2 48299
 
You really like primes
 
10:32 PM
@JerryCoffin Nope. Instead it will ruin your email and dismiss that confirmation popup
Also, how will you find balance? I like to trackpad with a single hand and it needs a support point. Well, I'll just not buy it. I'd be relatively happy without a trackpad at all
@Rapptz And I like them in their primes as well!
 
user1804599
You’re primative.
 
user1804599
Consign to oblivion.
 
I'm actually in my prime years again. Thanks for reminding. Since almost a week now.
 
@sehe I think I'd be happier without a trackpad. Well, I guess it is kind of handy in an emergency, but at the very least, there should be an option to disable it as soon as I plug in any other pointing device.
 
My trackpad has a disable option.
It's a button on the top of it
 
10:37 PM
@JerryCoffin Wut? You'd go through the trouble of opting out of trackpads... only to plug in a pointing device? Now ... you made it worse aaaaan stopped being portable
 
you don't use mice?
 
@Rapptz My trackpad has that and it has an automatic software anti-palm-detection thing. Anyways, I never had any kind of problem there.
 
user1804599
@sehe I’m almost 19 years old. :v
 
@Rapptz Certainly not on my laptop.
 
Oh. So you use a trackpad on your laptop? :O
 
10:38 PM
@rightfold 23rd of 2013 as well! It will be one hell of a year
 
I think outside of trackpads and mice there is the clit mouse but no one uses those anymore I guess.
 
@Rapptz I do. But sparingly.
 
user1804599
> If work my ass off and Initech ships a few extra units, I don’t see another prime, so where’s the motivation?
 
@rightfold young jab
 
@Rapptz I like those the best. Less intrusive, no need to move away from keyboard. Sadly, no-one makes those anymore (ThinkPads maybe)
 
user1804599
10:39 PM
@bamboon Where is your bamboo? :(
 
@rightfold gone ^^
 
@rightfold That movie is from 1999. A good year :)
 
user1804599
Hmm, 0% battery.
 
user1804599
And I’m still chatting!
 
Duh. Net power :/
 
user1804599
10:40 PM
No.
 
A miracle!
Hello?
Congratulations on your miracle?
Don't fall asleep now
that would be a waste of time
 
Evening
 
@rightfold That's the spirit!
Never give up.
 
Someone call me?
 
Does anybody know things about American baseball?
 
10:47 PM
I know a little about it from watching baseball anime series.
 
Some people play it. So, I'm tempted to guess "Yes"
 
I was wondering how often games are played during the season.
e.g. once a week.
 
I love homebrew for having clang 3.5
 
@Pawnguy7 WP has a section on the frequency. Once a week seems realistic
 
Huh?
I am not clicking that.
 
10:50 PM
Many games were played it seems.
 
No. God no.
Never click on WP links!
You might get a banner with a picture of Jimmy Wales!
 
Hey! Don't just delete my messages.
 
O_o
 
faithInHumanity -= 1000000;
 
Oh, searching the specific season. I should have tried that.
 
10:51 PM
@StackedCrooked That was Objectionable Content. Pornguy had just stated his distaste at that very site
 
Pornguy? You mean rightfold?
 
@StackedCrooked I meant @Pornguy
 
:D
 
10:54 PM
That's even more than I thought.
 
You probably only thought about 0.00001%
 
Latest OS X ships with lldb instead of gdb.
And I was just starting to figure out gdb's commands.
 
@StackedCrooked :D
 

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