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1:02 AM
Wasn't that a rhetorical question, considering that your avatar is a version of it?
 
The new version.
Basically, it is like the screensaver.
Different landscapes.
 
I want to build a robot and make it pick up chicks for me
 
Ok...
 
First I have to pass in a billion images of tits to a neural network
 
@Jefffrey ok to what?
 
1:04 AM
@Pawnguy7 Ok, I understand what you are referring to. Go on...
 
@Jefffrey I was making winter. So far, there is snow, and trees. What else might I add?
 
Santa Claus, Big foot, ice, deers.
@Pawnguy7 Is the snow falling as well?
Oh and snowmen.
 
@Jefffrey nope. Static tiles.
 
Make some small white squares fall.
Of different sizes, obviously.
 
As tiles?
 
1:11 AM
White snow flakes can just be rectangles filled with a white color. They don't really need a tile.
 
I can make it snow ;)
 
They aren't... specialized.
Like.
For whatever you picture as snow.
Could you do it with the screensaver engine?
 
How would I know?
You are the one that created it.
 
For some reason I have an assumption people look at code they bugfixed for hours :D
Anyway, you couldn't.
I feel santa is going to be ugly.
 
1:18 AM
Damn. This API is getting too huge too fast :\
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun API for what?
 
@Pawnguy7 The Lua API that interfaces with my engine
Too many functions. It's still a WiP and I just wrote 120 lines of function declarations :\
 
Hello everyone.
 
Hello Luc!
 
I noticed the new mailing for today: anything optional related?
 
1:22 AM
@Pawnguy7 ... months ago. I barely remember what I wrote 2 days ago.
 
Fair enough.
 
Ah, n3793 which is revision 5.
 
Did you see the video?
 
@Borgleader You're trying to do a UI mockup?
 
^current Winter.
Fixed, just for you @sehe
 
1:23 AM
@Pawnguy7 like I said, feel free to keep using snag.gy
 
Can't you see it?
 
@Pawnguy7 Cluster them
 
@Pawnguy7 Engage brain
 
@sehe Yeah, I'm looking at his screenshot and trying to do it using XAML/WPF. Most of it won't do anything of course. But it should be good practice anyway.
 
30 mins ago, by Pawnguy7
So you don't want to see the images?
 
1:24 AM
@Pawnguy7 Generate a bunch of random points and start clustering trees around those points
It will look better :p
 
@Borgleader Ew. UI programming. I'd rather do some more Spirit :/
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun Good idea. Should I use one kind of tree?
I was trying to use an offset texture, but it came out... ugly.
 
@Pawnguy7 What video?
 
@Pawnguy7 Not necessarily, but eh :o
 
@sehe So far, all you see is all XAML
 
1:25 AM
@MohammadAliBaydoun does it currently look ugly to you?
 
@Borgleader Oh. I thought that was a rudimentary house in screaming colours
 
Anyways, I need to get some sleep. 3:25am
 
The house comes from the WPF book I bought, it's all described in XAML
 
@sehe will do :D
 
1:26 AM
@Pawnguy7 A bit, yes
 
anyway, 'night
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun Surely you are sugar-coating it. Anyway, I suck at tree textures :\
 
@Pawnguy7 I'm no artist either :<
This is why I have artists on my team
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun is offset trees a good idea?
Not to mention, it might ruin clustering.
 
@Pawnguy7 What do you mean by offset trees? :o
 
1:30 AM
@MohammadAliBaydoun well. Before, it looked like this:
I received complaints that it was too... rigid.
 
It is
It's unnatural
The clustering idea might make it more natural
then you can do a few passes to adjust the output
 
Working on it, yes.
I think part of the problem is the texture.
 
It looks more like some painting with a bunch of arrows than trees.
 
@Pawnguy7 Oh yeah, I remember that.
@Pawnguy7 You need more leafs then.
 
1:33 AM
@Jefffrey Anyway, they both have this in common: each generation sets some data.
For example, in this, there are two layers: say, ground and trees.
 
There is nothing special for an individual landscape.
@Jefffrey if you want to make it, I can add it :D
 
I am so tempted to train a neural network to detect tits
 
I tried more, and it looked worse.
 
It would be hilarious
 
1:35 AM
What would?
 
1 min ago, by Mohammad Ali Baydoun
I am so tempted to train a neural network to detect tits
 
I will take your word for it.
 
Fuck, it's 3:35am again. Time for tome milk, cereals and Homeland. Then bed time.
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun With opencv and your porn collection that should be pretty easy
 
@Borgleader ~Awesome~
 
1:36 AM
See you all tomorrow.
 
Now all I need is a porn collection
;_;
 
I once got OpenCV to detect the fishing bobble in World of Warcraft xD
it was pretty accurate despite my minimal training set
 
@Jefffrey when do you wake up?
 
@Pawnguy7 Considering that tomorrow I don't have courses, around 2-4pm.
 
@Jefffrey and when you do?
 
1:38 AM
@Pawnguy7 Monday-Friday (but tomorrow there's a strike).
 
@Jefffrey teachers?
 
@Pawnguy7 Trains.
 
What I meant was, when you do have classes the next day.
 
Oh. Depends. Sometimes 7:30am, sometimes 11:30, sometimes 13:30.
 
Butyou always stay up this late?
 
1:42 AM
Not always.
 
Maybe I remember incorrectly when I am not looking here.
 
But anyway. Night all.
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun what was your project again?
Night.
 
@Pawnguy7 game engine and 2D game development environment
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun Sounds ambitious.
 
1:46 AM
@Pawnguy7 It is, and progress is wonderful
It's ambitious because of competition
 
What competition do you have in mind specifically?
 
There are much better engines out there
But this engine is not what I'm depending on, it's the games that my team and I will make with this engine that will be shipped
 
So it is an in-house tool of sorts?
 
If the engine is ever worthy of being out there, I'll open source it all and put it under the MIT license
Kind of.
 
when you create a variable with type of char, you allocate a memory address of one byte for whatever will be stored in that variable. So that memory address is one byte. How come then, when you allocate a memory address for a pointer, on a 32 bit system, it is always 4 bytes. From what I read, the reason is "because a pointer is just a memory address". So what? That char variable was a memory address too and it only allocated one byte.
 
1:50 AM
Um...
I wouldn't say allocating a char variable is an address.
 
The memory address needs 4 bytes to be stored. The actual data it points to will have a width of 1 byte.
 
Let's say we have 100,000 locations.
 
(On a 32-bit system)
 
Never mind, I don't know what I am saying.
But like... a byte can hold 256 values.
But there will be far more memory addresses.
So storing the address will be larger.
But a char only needs to store 256 values.
A C++ char is guaranteed at least 8 bits right?
 
basically you are saying when I create a char variable, it will allocate 1 byte which will be PART of a single memory address, but that single memory address can store other data as well?
since that memory address can store 4 bytes total
 
1:53 AM
@Pawnguy7 yes
 
On very, very, very old systems, you had to deal with 5, 6 or even 7 bits
 
a char is 1 byte, a short is 2 bytes, an integer is 4 bytes, and a double is 8 bytes, on a 32 bit system, that much I do know
 
wat no.
you completely don't understand how this works.
a char variable is not a memory address at all.
it lives at a memory address.
if it was a memory address, it would always be sizeof(void*).
 
Goddammit, I just found out that the Intel machine I wanted to build doesn't support 8 ram slots for 64GB of ram.
 
you do not allocate addresses for char.
well, strictly, you could do like, new char; or something, which does do exactly that.
but that's a completely different thing.
 
1:55 AM
ok that makes sense
 
Anybody try the VS 2013?
 
@ScottW what do you point to?
Could it be... a Dog?
perhaps with a love()?
 
@Mysticial Google Chrome doesn't recognize the word tesseract ;_;
Fixpl0x
 
Not my fault.
:)
I also just went through this a couple hours ago in the Anime room:
I was planning on building an Intel Haswell machine with 64 GB of ram (8 x 8GB).
Apparently, those don't exist. That chip doesn't support 8 ram slots.
 
:o
Do 16GB RAM sticks exist yet?
 
2:02 AM
@MohammadAliBaydoun On the server side, but they're hella expensive.
I'm gonna be building a 32GB AMD machine sometime in the next few weeks.
I'll probably do it as soon as this weekend. But my parents are out of the country and I don't know what my credit card limit is.
Technically, I could put it on my Dad's credit card. But they want me to build up my credit. So I'm supposed to put everything I can on my own card.
 
I can imagine your house full of computers and extension chords~
That would be my dream house
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun That's not entirely incorrect.
2
 
IN THE BATHROOM.
UNDER THE KITCHEN SINK.
BEHIND THE FRIDGE.
 
@Mysticial My last build I ended maxing it out. Had to survive for two whole weeks!
 
~Everywhere~
 
2:07 AM
@MohammadAliBaydoun snag.gy/g9TKX.jpg
 
@LucDanton Maxing out isn't really an option for me anymore.
Too expensive.
 
Well I didn't set out to do it on purpose lol.
 
The last time (and only time) that I've ever maxed out a build was 2008 with that dual-socket Xeon with 64 GB of ram.
in 2008
 
IIRC I paid some bills online at the time, so it was an unfortunate set of circumstances.
 
@Pawnguy7 I think the problem is the fact that the trees are aligned to a grid
 
2:09 AM
Probably a bit, yes.
Not sure if offset textures can fix it though.
 
What will fix it is the use of no grid :P
 
Here is some wonderful code: _cDcl(_dllpxobj _dllpxipl,_cfunfcc,char*) pxerrnomesg(int err);
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun That is not a possibility as this time :D
 
Can't you assume a grid with size 1x1? :<
 
Trees will be really messed up then.
They are currently 32 wide.
With a 1x1 grid.
You can fit 32 of them like that.
How was the clustering, though?
 
2:13 AM
use 2 uniform integer distributions and generate x and y values
generate like 8 points
 
Currently, cluster positions are randomly chosen grid squares.
I had ten in that example.
 
and start placing a bunch of trees (between K and K + 4)
 
K?
 
K is a constant you choose
I'd choose 4
 
Radius?
 
2:14 AM
maybe 6
 
I think my cluster function is broken.
The sand is where it was centered.
 
@Pawnguy7 Why are all those arrows pointing up?
 
Oh I see
@Mysticial Those are trees (:D)
 
@Mysticial Let's just say, I am not good at pixel art trees.
 
I'm telling you, with a grid like that, you can't go far :P
 
2:16 AM
@MohammadAliBaydoun Dammit, my starbait attempt failed.
 
@Mysticial Plan B: Make fun of Java
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun everybody said that in the old one too.
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun That tends to work. But it's also getting overused.
 
@Mysticial Plan C: PHP? ;_;
Or rightfag
Or something about Cat Plus Plus's hate for everything
Or Jerry's age
 
LoungeCPP.SingletonInstance.AttemptToStarBaitUsingSingletonJokes()
10
 
2:18 AM
Btw Mysticial
Super Training is +12 EVs per minigame
Pretty good/fast.
 
@Rapptz Is it faster than +10 EVs/battle using power items + pokerus?
 
Well, you don't need power items, hunt for certain pokemon, and hope you have Pokerus. So yeah.
Also males can now pass down their nature with an everstone.
 
@Rapptz Oh males can do it too now?
cool
 
Only bad thing is since EXP Share works for the whole party, the whole party gets EVs.
 
ah
 
2:22 AM
luckily you can turn it off
 
dafuq are you guys talking aboot
 
Are you talking about that new Pokemon game?
XY or something?
 
yeah
which I still need to get
 
I havent played pokemon since i was twelve but for some reason ive been itching to get that pokemon themed 3ds + the game
managed not to do it so far
 
I like this game a lot
I just wish the Friend Safari didn't suck
 
2:25 AM
Too bad. I'll have to wait for a few years to play it on PC. :s
 
Ahah.
@MohammadAliBaydoun
 
@Pawnguy7 Reminds me of Ski Free.
 
@MarkGarcia Somebody said that earlier.
Does this imply that SkiFree had bad pixel art?
 
Actually, that does look better
 
SkiFree is raster, not vector, which I think your's is.
 
2:29 AM
They are clustered nicely
 
Bummer.
I lost the parameters I used for that.
I was thinking, ice lakes.
Shall I?
 
TIL there's a std::cbrt function.
 
Took me a while to get what that means.
 
@Pawnguy7 Definitely
@Pawnguy7 Generate them so that they don't overlap with any trees and you should be good to go
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun I am guessing the solution here is, kill trees that end up being on the ice.
 
2:34 AM
> This is where baby snow monsters come from: ski.ihoc.net/abom_fu.gif
WTF
 
Which also gives me nice lakeside clusters.
@MarkGarcia I second that.
 
@Pawnguy7 Oh yes
In fact,
You can generate the ice lakes before you generate trees
and only select random points that are not in ice lakes for tree clustering
 
Good idea.
 
@MarkGarcia Isn't that from that old flash game where you ski down a mountain?
 
@Borgleader From the officialest SkiFree site: ski.ihoc.net
And it's not Flash. :P
 
2:40 AM
@MarkGarcia there was a browser version which was probably flash based
 
> Optional is proposed for Fundamentals TR rather than 2014 C++ Standard.
Mmmh that looks like a typo, I thought the ISO used TS's now.
> This paper proposes a type-safe container for single values of value types. The C++ standards committee is planning to include the proposal in a library Technical Specification (TS).
From the Any proposal.
 
@LucDanton They do, but a lot of the Committee are still in the habit of calling them TRs.
 
X.Y.7 Class bad_optional_access [optional.bad_optional_access]

namespace std {
  class bad_optional_access : public logic_error {
  public:
    explicit bad_optional_access(const string& what_arg);
    explicit bad_optional_access(const char* what_arg);
  };
}
This clashes with a previous synopsis which puts it in namespace std::experimental. Oh dear.
 
2:55 AM
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@MohammadAliBaydoun snag.gy/ol3f8.jpg
 
@Mysticial God damnit, it was closed before I could comment:
> I'm litterally eating popcorn as I read this. Thank you.
 
@Pawnguy7 not too bad
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun do I need darker ice?
 
2:57 AM
@Borgleader Hehe. Me too. "Then stop using IE!"
 
@Mysticial Why was this deleted?
 
@Pawnguy7 Nah
 
@Mikhail Seriously?
 
@Pawnguy7 You can make parts of the ice lake melted if you want
 
@Mikhail It wasn't offensive enough to get a historical lock.
:)
 
2:58 AM
I want to write an offensive post :<
I'll call you all willies!
 
@Mysticial oh well, when I moderated a form a a while back we would just lock this stuff. Only delete spam. I'm starting to see his point :-)
 
Except for Scott, he's my boo ;_;
 
Ok. Night.
 
Night.
 
night
 
3:00 AM
@MohammadAliBaydoun If you're going to be offensive, do it right. I want to be called something much stronger then "willy".
 
@ScottW inb4 you tweet #carcrash :(
 
@JerryCoffin YOU'RE A VERY PLEASANT MAN.
Yeah. I can't do this whole 'offensive' thing.
 
Man doing UIs with XAML is so much better than that Android shit
Windows Phone
EIGHT
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun I could flag that as offensive.
 
WPF kicks ass
 
3:05 AM
@MarkGarcia Do it for me ♥
 
You know, despite the fact that I have to work in a Win8 VM
This is much less obnoxious than Android dev on so many levels
I haven't dealt with actual devices yet though
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun ... on second thought, I'm not in the mood of messing up with some mods. :P
 
That might turn out to be extra fun
@ScottW And yet iOS is worse
To the point where I don't even consider it a platform
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun If I didn't know better, I 'd guess you were another Canadian.
 
Plus this is C# and I have R#
I think I might actually buy Lumia
Just for the hell of it
 
3:10 AM
@ScottW There are times (few and far between, but a few nonetheless) that I almost wish I could...educate some people in things like programming for Control Data NOS. I don't really want to be cruel about it, just give them enough exposure to realize how wonderful the currently "crappy" platforms really are.
 
Yeah I've heard it's easier to develop for WP8
Don't know how true that is
But I'd take C# over Objective-C and Java any day.
 
@ScottW Well, let's just start with this: consider a platform that uses only six bits to represent a character, so when you boot the machine, you get to choose whether it's going to have upper case or lower case characters (but it doesn't have a character set with both upper and lower case, so you need to do some sort of special markup just to be able to print out a sentence with the first letter capitalized correctly.
 
3:43 AM
@ScottW VC 6 is modern and sophisticated compared to what you're dealing with here.
 
@Rapptz I always felt C# was a more verbose version of Java
 
Nah. Not even close.
 
@Mikhail C# 1 was (or at least seemed to me to have been) pretty much the closest to Java that MS figured they could get away with distributing. Things have changed quite a bit since then though.
 
@Mikhail At least C#'s verbosity is more useful.
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah I haven't done C# since 10 years (!). Remember J++ and J#? I'm pretty sure they were high when they wrote J#.
 
3:49 AM
@Mikhail You just had to go and remind me of those, didn't you?
 
Scott#
#C
A C# tag on twitter would look awkward
 
hey guys
just a quick question
how does OpenBSD's malloc work?
afaik
it maintains a list of free blocks, and pointers to that are then returned whenmalloc is called, depending on the required size
the memory blocks are mapped to the actual address due to ASLR
and when memory is deallocated
it is unmapped and stored in malloc's free block list
is that right?
 
4:05 AM
 
I wanted to explicitly instantiate template for all primitive and string type. template void set<string>(string& val) etc. Is there a shortcut way to do this?
 
4:55 AM
<sup>*hello?*</sup>
Damnit markup.
 

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