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1:05 PM
@DomagojPandža i pressed ENTER and nothing happened
what am I doing wrong !?!
 
@JohannesSchaublitb You need to hit the screen with your fist, the authentication system has an attitude that requires correcting. :Đ
 
@DomagojPandža i did that once and it went away. but I couldn't display other sites anymore :(
 
Sometimes, I just want to harm people.
 
For making rage comics? Yeah, this is a valid reason.
 
Also the herp derps in question. Had way too many of those.
 
1:11 PM
I finally downloaded SWTOR.
So many choices now.
 
Play everything
8 classes, 8 stories. :D
right up to 15
Also, playing the Imperial agent on the light side and defecting later to the Republic is fun :Đ
Hah, Kyrostat validation scripts shove a stylized div into the layout when someone fails to login with the classic Elder Scolls guard saying:
"STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCUM."
Too much? :Đ
 
1:29 PM
morning
 
Morning, puppeh!
Nice dawgy.
 
ty ty
 
morning @DeadMG
 
if you check out the transcript from about the time of "Even puppies love Windows!" there's various pictures and a video
 
Btw, what's that thing around his neck - a neural enhancer?
Damn, now I want a puppy.
 
1:32 PM
her, and no, it's an anti-bark collar
basically, whenever she barks, it sprays a cloud of lemon-smelling stuff into her face, and dogs can't stand that smell
supposedly, it trains her not to bark, but instead, she just endures
 
Ahahah, neat.
 
haha =)
 
Girl, look at that six pool... Ah! Girl, look at that six pool... Ah! I play Zerg.
 
it's hilarious, isn't it
 
Your puppy really has that awesome snuggly face. Usually, most of the dogs around my house need to be shot down... From a distance.
 
1:37 PM
I know, right
this breed, though, was specifically bred to be warm and cuddly for hundreds of years
 
most dogs were bred for other purposes like agricultural work, guard dogs, etc.
 
This cat is so ugly.
Warm, fuzzy and cuddly - best type.
 
agree
 
@DeadMG I liked your old avatar better.
4
 
1:40 PM
I don't understand the passion of some people for dogs who could potentially and very likely eat you.
 
the newer one is kinda hard to see, isn't it?
 
Say it to the puppy's face!
 
the full picture is way more impressive
 
@DeadMG It doesn't look like a dog. In fact, it doesn't look like anything.
 
1:42 PM
So fluffy, I'm going to die.
 
@DeadMG Whoa, there's a human foot growing out of the dog's left ear!
 
lol
my sister's
 
Are those Sennheiser headphones?
 
@DeadMG By the relatively small volume, 13-16 years old?
 
@DomagojPandža lol, 24.
 
1:43 PM
AHAHAHAH
 
@FredOverflow Dunno, never checked.
 
Because it kinda looks like the Sennheiser font, but I'm not sure.
 
@DeadMG repost
 
Everytime I contemplate changing my avatar
I remember Gravatar
and I give up.
 
@DomagojPandža Liar
 
1:46 PM
Well, the "I feel it" kid has been around for a while now. I wanted to change it 5 minutes later, but gave up.
 
@DomagojPandža So who's the dawg in your picture? :)
 
@DomagojPandža Aha
 
I have no idea, the facial expression just won.
 
Ah, I thought he was your son or something.
 
Likely
 
1:50 PM
Bah, can't type that. But the son hypothesis - impossibru. Way too much white.
 
> Goddamn, that was racist.
 
Again? ._.
 
It wasn't
 
I try to be politically correct. I just discriminate against woman programmers and PHP programmers whatever they are.
 
I discriminate lots of factors
 
1:53 PM
The latter discrimination is based in fact, the former in bigotry and local initial conditions that rendered my view of woman programmers as impossible as locally achieving v > c.
Cicada will have my head for this. :$
 
women programmers can't achieve faster-than-speed-of-light velocities?
a common problem, I find
 
You're british. Is it women (plural) or woman (singular) with programmers?
I have the notion of something becoming a describing attribute of the following noun and therefore is not pluralized (Croatian language).
 
@DomagojPandža You can program women?
 
@FredOverflow Tried once, I managed to cast her into an Ex.
 
women programmers.
 
1:59 PM
@DeadMG Qualify :P
 
a woman programmer would refer to one specific, albeit unnamed, female programmer
women programmers implies the whole job lot of them
 
That is true, yes.
So, it is not enough to just pluralize programmer.
Sounded right, was unsure though.
The English language is one big exception on top of 5 rules.
I'll just use female programmers.
Adjectivized nouns for the win.
 
so what did v > c refer to?
because I expect it didn't mean velocity > speed of light
 
velocity > speed of light
The possibility of female programmers in my mind is comparable to the possibility of a local, initially STL, object to surpass the speed of light.
Mostly because I've seen way too many schmucks in my life.
Local or locally = registered movement relative to another object / point of reference in the same spacetime. Sometimes requires to be qualified.
 
@bamboon Yep we received a message the very morning when that happenned :)
And apparently some passwords were posted publicly. Can't find them though.
 
2:20 PM
@DeadMG women programmers are programmers who program women.
 
What are you, a stupid parser? Derive from context.
If anyone requires languages to be unambiguous, he's in for a tough ride.
Especially Croatian, that stuff is a wreck. And when people derive specialized meaning for worthless, incorrect sentences and start to use it daily - woohoo.
Probably the most violated concept in my language are conditionals. They are used to express everything.
 
sometimes I start questioning my own mind.. I went to buy food for my last money, and I get home with pasta and chocolate
pasta and chocolate.
what's the fucking matter with me?
and chocolate!?
 
AHAHAH. Chocolate.
Well, try cooking those two together.
I predict a nice regurgitation.
 
2:40 PM
@DeadMG Is the move implicit here? ideone.com/O3Rbh
 
yes
 
When do I know that it's implicit?
 
It's not really implicit per se... It is well defined... Unnamed temps, returns from functions are rvalues
rvalues get shoved into std defined move constructors
 
Well it is implicit as in not having to explicitly tell the compiler :)
Are all rvalues always handled with std::move?
 
If a move constructor is defined for the given class, the compiler will always try to feed it the rvalue reference.
 
2:46 PM
@ManofOneWay Not strictly.
 
How was it prior to c++11? When returning an rvalue it always got copied?
 
although the definition of a move constructor usually requires plentiful use of std::move
@ManofOneWay There was no other way to treat it.
 
Did you have to allocate on the heap then and return a pointer instead?
 
no... it just got copied.
 
Before C++11, there were only copy constructors.
Get a temp, copy it, feed it.
 
2:47 PM
@DeadMG If you didn't want it to get copied I mean
 
you would only have to resort to heap allocation if your data was quite large
well, still no
you could use RVO/NRVO, for example.
or "swaptimization", or a custom allocator
 
True, but those were tricks we used to play make-belief of a better world - that came with rval refs and move constructors.
 
well, arguably, they functionally were the same
 
T&& <3
MEH!
 
Precisely, but the amount of work was not fun. :D
 
2:49 PM
stupid chat not working the same way as the rest of SO
 
How does compiler know when to use the move constructor? What if I was to make a custom object and I wanted to return that from a function. I would have to create a move constructor and then the compiler would know that it should be used instead of the copy constructor?
 
the problem was simply that they were tedious to apply and could not operate in all situations
@ManofOneWay It knows because the object is an rvalue. That is part of semantic analysis- the same way the compiler knows it's type.
 
The implementation has deduction rules, it knows what it gets and what is available.
 
@ManofOneWay if the object will be destroyed after the end of the expression, that's when
 
I see, but do I still have to create a move constructor?
 
2:51 PM
there are rules for implicit creation of them a'la copy constructor
 
@ManofOneWay for non-trivial types, yes
 
but I don't recall what they are
 
Yes, for anything custom, you need a custom move constructor.
Guessing around for the move constructor implicitly is not the compiler's strong suit.
 
So when are the types non trivial? When it is allocating heap space?
 
@ManofOneWay When the implementer decides to.
 
2:52 PM
When you have a lot of memory tracking within the actual object that needs to be moved.
usually the stuff we did with deep copying.
 
fuck
I was thinking something and then I forgot it
 
You need to teach the class how to take it.
@DeadMG Happens all the time! :D
You know that feeling afterwards when you try to remember and it turns into an irritating sensation? :D
 
What about the rule of three, does it convert into the rule of four in C++11?
 
@ManofOneWay Four-and-a-half or something.
 
Actually, it would be a rule of five.
 
2:54 PM
Omg
 
Right, 4.5
 
@DomagojPandža Wrong.
operator=(T t) { this->swap(t); return *this; } works for move and copy.
 
@DeadMG Precisely.
 
so at most, it is the rule of four
 
But let's not confuse the poor cub :D
 
2:55 PM
And swap is what?
 
swap, dude. It swaps things.
 
now look at what you did.
 
Yes of course, sorry
It was the assignment operator
Well thank you!
 
hmm i feel like flagging a random message now
 
Sorry :D
I wanted to hit reply, but my trigger-happy finger got too excited.
 
2:58 PM
if only you wouldnt notice im in te cannel
 
hello all :)
 
@ManofOneWay Do you now get what MG was trying to say with the swap? You need to define that little helper for yourself, utilize move constructors and if not available simple copy.
Also, I need to take a shower, pick up my lady and celebrate this little thing called my birthday.
One step closer to the grave.
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@DomagojPandža happy birthday!!! :)
 
Thanks, mate, you all have a nice day!
 
@DomagojPandža happy birthday dude
@DomagojPandža hint: if you flag this message of me, all the channel people will notice your birthday and will send happiness
3
 
3:13 PM
@DomagojPandža Cong rats and other rodents, as the ape would say!
I think I can safely predict the ape has more animals in store for the lounge in 3... 2... 1...
 
Xeo
@JohannesSchaublitb: Hope you don't mind that I added the standard quote to your answer
 
@Xeo no i don't mind. thanks :)
 
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A: Is it possible to forward declare a static array

AzharYou can forward declare your array using only extern like this: extern int bigIntArray[5000]; You can also remove array size extern int bigIntArray[]; This will tell the compiler that the array is defined somewhere else (later or other translation unit). In your case it will be defined late...

is that UB?
(declaring without size, defining with)
 
@Flexo Dunno if it's UB or not, but I can see how it could be technically implemented.
 
@Mysticial yeah it almost certainly "work" on most implementations, but not so clear if it's actually meant to work or not. Neither clang nor GCC complain about it if I do it within a single TU as well.
 
Xeo
3:26 PM
@Flexo Don't think it's UB, after all you don't need complete types for forward declarations
struct X; struct Y;
X foo(Y);
works
 
@Xeo but int arr[] is complete and a totally different size to int arr[500]
 
Xeo
@Flexo No, it's not
int arr[] is an incomplete type.
And only in a function parameter would it transform to int* arr
 
(this is why I use containers!)
 
you can say
alias<int[]>{1, 2, 3}
 
user image
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places where @sbi cannot go ^
 
3:30 PM
lol
 
4:03 PM
@TonyTheLion also , to note a place i cannot go, as i sit here with a lit cigarette lol
 
No smoking in the lounge!
Unless you compensate the health issues with bacon.
 
4:19 PM
lol
 
hi tony
 
hi
you changed your gravatar
 
indeed
same puppy different photo
 
ah ok
 
4:34 PM
same photo different puppy
 
ok ah
 
Meh Verdana.
Ugliest font ever.
 
4:36 PM
.. after Arial
 
well, at least it's not that other notorious font
 
Arial looks a thousand times better than Verdana, IMO.
Arial isn't a bad font.
 
you mean the memish Impact
 
4:37 PM
damn
Mondays are good days
 
Comic Sans, is the notorious font i was talking about
 
I really like Palatino and Helvetica Neue UltraLight.
 
@DeadMG FYI it's Sunday today :)
 
@TonyTheLion Comic Sans looks better than Verdana. *hides*
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
4:38 PM
@TonyTheLion AMAGAD RLY? HAX!
 
lol
so I studied my driving theory book
 
I am confusing @DeadMG with @DomagojPandža now due to his new avatar.
Domagoj's old avatar was also dark and contained gray.
IIRC
 
did a trial exam online and had 38/50 (you need 43/50 to pass)
not too bad I'd say for a first try
 
sucks
linky?
 
to what?
 
4:39 PM
The exam.
 
trial exam
 
don't have it open anymore
Google it
 
Ctrl+Z.
 
tab is closed
 
Yeah, so Ctrl+Z to reopen it. :P
Oh meh, that doesn't work in Google Chrome.
 
4:42 PM
har har
you suck
:P
@DomagojPandža Happy Birthday from The Lion :)
 
Døh.
 
yeah, but the new tab page does have a list of recently closed tabs
 
I'm a vacuum cleaner.
Of course I'm awesome.
 
Best. Response. EVAR
 
I am hungry as fuck.
 
4:58 PM
harhar
some poor sod is advertising barbeque products
whilst most of the UK is flooding
 
Has anyone here seen the Shakira - She wolf video?
I bet @TonyTheLion has
This is hilarious anyway, nasty shit
@DeadMG Have you played FFXII?
 
no
as far as I can tell, FF went to shit after FF8
 
You didn't like FFIX?
 
wasn't that only released in Japan?
 
No man
It's a really good game, better than FFVIII in my opinion. You should try it
 
5:13 PM
> Don’t take this the wrong way, since you clearly know your C++ (as evidenced from the (technically) correct use of virtual functions, templates and type packs) but this belongs on the DailyWTF: you are trying, with considerable effort and complexity, to emulate a feature from another language which itself is an inferior emulation of a feature that C++ has natively – comment on “Python with statement in C++”
@DeadMG “(technically) correct” ;)
 
lol
I wouldn't call any user code calling delete directly to be correct, even if it compiles and executes without error.
 
Ell
hi guys
 
Hi
Sometimes I feel like it's a damn waste of time to answer peoples questions when they can't be bothered to come back and check up and see if they've been helped. GRRRR
 
5:33 PM
answering questions is often a waste of time
 
^ often always FTFY
 
5:43 PM
Hi
 
hello :)
 
i want to ask an out of topic question
How can i measure the popularity of a software
apart from the number of downloads at download sites?
i think the question is a bit foolish.Just asking
 
The total number of seeds you get when you type in the name of the software on The Pirate Bay.
If your non-free app is not being pirated, nobody wants it.
 
yes its pirated
 
Reminds me of this.
@AndresLeay Just pirate it. If you still like it when you can afford it in the future, buy it then. Also don't forget to feel bad. ;)
 
5:48 PM
about some 15-20 seeds
 
Good Guy Game developer
@techno There you have it, it's not very unpopular but has a reasonably sized user base.
 
Ell
@RadekSlupik I disagree with that, there are still a lot of people who don't know about torrents and an increasing amount becoming aware of the fact that it's wrong
 
Of course it's not the total number of users, but compare it to the number of seeds for very popular software, such as Windows 7.
@Ell “the fact that it's wrong” that's not a fact, it's an opinion.
 
How many users do you think?There are about 4 different pirated versions
Just some guess from your experience!
 
I don't have any experience with that.
I don't give a shit about how many people use my software.
 
5:52 PM
Im not taking about pirating
Just the user base.
 
I know.
 
do you think at-least 100 people may have purchased it?
 
Yup.
 
ok
 
But you shouldn't assume anything.
 
Ell
5:55 PM
@RadekSlupik okay then I think more people are having the opinion that it is wrong
 
Meine Bugtracker ist ganz geil.
I know a guy who downloaded Safari from TPB. :P
And Firefox.
 
how can you not know how many people bought your software?
 
What if it's not your software?
 
well then the question is moot.
 
6:32 PM
37 mins ago, by Radek Slupik
But you shouldn't assume anything.
:P
 
6:53 PM
@RadekSlupik C-S-t in chrome. Also, C-Z or C-S-z in Opera /cc @TonyTheLion
 
If I want to use a debug print macro in all my compilation units and just set the DEBUG flag in one of them, preferably main.c++, where should I put the macro?
 
Xeo
@ManofOneWay In the bin.
:3
 
@Xeo What?
 

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